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July 30, 2023, 04:28:38 PM |
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if we think logically this is like a joke when in last season to get Juventus champions league tickets was banned due to violation issues and now when getting conference league tickets Juventus also got punished, like dropping Juventus indirectly. I just think about what is the cause of all this because even though I am not a Juventus fan, Im a little sorry to see that the punishments that are always getting cause the players to feel disappointed and it is in vain to perform well in this team. or if its not possible that Juventus will only perform badly in the summer after that many players leave there with the excuse that they want to continue their career with the right team.
Massimiliano Allegri and the Juventus board are actively looking for creative ideas to get around the core obstacle as they navigate the upcoming hurdles. They are resolved to persevere despite their current difficulties and their exclusion from the UEFA Champion League because they are aware of the possible long term rewards. The bianconeri will gradually get used to the situation even though accepting the penalty for breaking FFP rule may be difficult. The difficulty is further increased by the extra pressure from being barred from the UEFA Europa Conference League since player who put alot of effort into qualifying for the Champions League are left without the desired result. Juventus will surely work hard to get beyond these challenges and discover fresh chances for development.
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DanWalker
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July 30, 2023, 04:29:53 PM |
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Hard to imagine when Juventus will be able to recover from all these negative events... They have not been doing well in Serie A for a long time now, nor in the Champions League... Now they are left without European Cups next season and without a lot of money to spend on improving the club... Probably next season will be bad for them again...
it is very probable that Juventus will have a negative period again this year, with few signings so far and problems with both Italian and sporting justice! unfortunately for Juventus before buying must necessarily sell! we will see at the end of the transfer market what the new Juventus will be like! So far I am also still very pessimistic about Juventus next season, maybe because of the team's internal problems at the moment which makes me pessimistic and that results in all of them including there are no significant changes that they make for the progress of the club for next season I don't know how long the Juventus team will be like this, but I'm sure this team will definitely be able to rise sooner or later, Juventus is a top Serie A team, for sure they don't want to be down for long. The problem is, if they sell players to buy new players, they are not going to get players who are better in quality. So I don’t think it is going to be a wise idea for them to sell players right now. The only players they can actually afford to sell those whom they are not currently using. Or maybe those players who are not going to be a big part of their journey in the next season. But they are not going to get too much money for those players. But I don’t think that Juventus is going to have a bad season. I am very much positive that they are going to finish the next season being in the top four. It is going to be hard. But with a little consistency that is achievable. But at the same time, I hope they do not face any type of problems that they did in the last season. Already, I can say that some good players actually lost hope and wanted to move out from Juventus. They also cannot be blamed in my opinion. If we are talking about the transfer market, I don’t think Juventus is going to be very active in the market this season. With all the financial problems and current legal problems that they have been through, I don’t see them being very active in the transfer market.
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July 30, 2023, 04:31:20 PM |
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Yes, a few days ago I see news from one of the media, it was announce that UEFA had imposed sanction on Juventus for allegedly violate Financial Fair Play rules. This further adds to Juventus' poor record, apart from being banned from playing at the European Conference League next season, Juventus will also certainly minimize their transfer activity this season as a result of the previous incident, even though this is one of the ways for Massimiliano Allegri to develop the team's performance.
If it is indeed banned in the European conference championship, at least Juventus still has a chance to win the Italian league this season and can focus on the league taking advantage of this moment, even though it is also disappointing to hear of the sanction, but always take lessons from everything and Juventus must not be down in a situation like this , the sanctions they receive must be a lesson in the future so that it does not happen again. Juventus really have to be able to rise from their failure last season because of the sanctions they received and had to fail to enter the UCL as well as other European championships, but I believe this sanction can make Juventus focus more on the league championship this season and be able to compete with clubs like Napoli and other clubs are targeting at the top of the standings. Yes Of course they must be able to rise from their failure, also considering their schedule won't be too tight because they won't be playing in big Europa event, so they should be able to be consistent to collect lots of points. On the other side although they won't be playing in a big event, but if they can get the Scudetto then it will make their fans happy maybe also Juventus squad. It's actually hard task for Allegri, but he must be able to bring Juventus got Serie A title.
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July 30, 2023, 04:35:15 PM |
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Broadly speaking, it is true that Juventus do not need a conference league competition, but for a mediocre club it is very important to be able to compete in one of the European competitions. Moreover, the thing that made Juventus banned from the competition due to problems that have been recurring since last season, is that really appropriate to be compared with their indifference to the conference league competition? I think all clubs will respect wherever they are and will not rule out whether they are a big club or a small club.
Here what I mean is the professional attitude of a team and if they can't do that then it's better that the opportunity be given to a team worthy of replacing. I understand that Juventus' focus is on winning Serie A and being able to return to the Champions League, but before they pursue that, they have to fix the existing problems so that in the middle of the competition they don't experience the same incident and harm many parties from the coaches, staff, and also the players who been trying really hard.
Of course I agree that every team should accept the challenge in whatever competition they are taking part, but the reality is that human beings have a psyche and if these players are used to play Champions League for their whole career, jetting from Madrid, to Manchester City, to Liverpool, to whatever club you want to name from the top 10 in Europe, and then they play against teams in the Conference League and also have to cope with the traveling stress for something that they never really thrived for winning. It shouldn't be that way, but when we ask a sincere question whether any of the players now deeply cares about getting suspended from the Conference League, I am sure that they don't care. I could be wrong but I doubt that any of those players has a sleepless night because of it. This would totally be different for the Champions League and also they would be sad if it was the Europa League.
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July 30, 2023, 05:04:26 PM |
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Are you thinking about teams have ideas for opening with Europe Super League always become target for suspending?
I believe that you raised a vital question here. With the competition that is now coming from the Saudi Professional League and also the investment fund involved, one risk of being too strict with clubs from European leagues could be that they in return threaten to support the foundation of a new Super League, for instance if it is originating from the Saudi Professional League or the investors backing everything that is flowing into the sport these days. First of all I think the Europe Super League format is never going to happen. Even after it was announced by some top teams UEFA seemed really frustrated about it. They already planned to impose sanction on the teams that are a part of that project. Right after hearing about that we have seen all the teams withdrawing from the project. UEFA would surely continue to threaten the teams coming with similar ideas. As long as not enough number of teams agree upon not giving up their decision about creating a new format UEFA can easily do what they want as usual. No I mean a different concept for a Super League from a founder outside of Europe. Last time there were a few European clubs that wanted to found a Super League that would have been in competition with the UEFA Champions League. I understand when the UEFA says that founding a competing association while being a member of the UEFA will not go without consequences. But what happens when the new Super League does originate from within Europe, but from an association outside Europe that is not associated with the UEFA whatsoever? I am not into the statutes of the UEFA association and whether it is fixed that clubs will be sanction if they join an association that is founded outside of Europe, but this would be a case study that is worth looking into because the Saudi investors aren't fooling around. I suppose everyone agrees that this is not about buying Ronaldo and Benzema and that's it. I brought this up because I said that clubs like Juventus have some power as well as the UEFA raises incentives for clubs to consider other options when the UEFA is too hard with their decisions.
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July 30, 2023, 05:17:37 PM |
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it is very probable that Juventus will have a negative period again this year, with few signings so far and problems with both Italian and sporting justice! unfortunately for Juventus before buying must necessarily sell! we will see at the end of the transfer market what the new Juventus will be like!
Juventus is one of the clubs that always brings big surprises in Serie-A and has always managed to finish in the top five of the standings in the previous several seasons, it's just that the points deduction caused Juventus to have problems and in the end they didn't qualify for the Champions League or Europa League next season. Their performance last season was also not too bad and I see that even though some of their players were injured Juventus still performed at their usual level, it shows that Juventus have a good mentality and they can always face any difficult conditions. The arrival of several players in the transfer market can also affect Juventus' overall performance next season and I am optimistic that Juventus can compete in the top three next season if they make changes in several positions. Several players who left also had to be considered by the coach and how they had to be maximized with the arrival of new players.
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July 30, 2023, 05:44:46 PM |
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No I mean a different concept for a Super League from a founder outside of Europe. Last time there were a few European clubs that wanted to found a Super League that would have been in competition with the UEFA Champions League. I understand when the UEFA says that founding a competing association while being a member of the UEFA will not go without consequences.
But what happens when the new Super League does originate from within Europe, but from an association outside Europe that is not associated with the UEFA whatsoever? I am not into the statutes of the UEFA association and whether it is fixed that clubs will be sanction if they join an association that is founded outside of Europe, but this would be a case study that is worth looking into because the Saudi investors aren't fooling around. I suppose everyone agrees that this is not about buying Ronaldo and Benzema and that's it.
I brought this up because I said that clubs like Juventus have some power as well as the UEFA raises incentives for clubs to consider other options when the UEFA is too hard with their decisions.
I think FIFA and UEFA have full authority over the clubs under their regulation, I assume on the basis of the withdrawal of the clubs from the EPL from the plans to create a Super League. The impact and risks for the clubs taking part in the super league competition are enormous, as well as the risks for their players as well. That is why they withdrew from the plan to establish the super league. On the other hand, it seems that clubs under UEFA are also unable to participate in or take part in competitions outside of Europe. Although it seems that investors from the SPL can be speculated to create a new league and design a format for clubs from Europe to take part in the competition.
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Jody.Drummer
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July 30, 2023, 05:53:59 PM |
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Hard to imagine when Juventus will be able to recover from all these negative events... They have not been doing well in Serie A for a long time now, nor in the Champions League... Now they are left without European Cups next season and without a lot of money to spend on improving the club... Probably next season will be bad for them again...
I'm sure Juventus will be able to bounce back from what they've been through recently, but it will take time and we don't know exactly how long it will take for them to bounce back and get back to the level of fierce competition. Game-wise, there's not really a problem, and the problems that occurred last season they can overcome with time. But it becomes difficult when problems come from the other side (external factors), which is what we are seeing now. I say external factors because what they are experiencing is caused from outside the field. Last season they could have finished in second place and I can say they didn't play badly for the first time in years... But I'm sure the fines took a lot of motivation away from the club, especially the fact that they lost the European Cups... But probably they will have a chance to concentrate on Serie A... I would like Juventus to finally have better times after all the recent events... Now that they have been suspended from European competition, they will have more time to focus on Serie A. It's not an advantage, but they have to make the best of their problems. Yes they performed well as a team, but not as management which we can't help but say that they are more responsible for what Juventus have experienced this season. Juven was one of my favorite clubs in the past and when Juven started to decline I had no interest in supporting it anymore but in some ways I support it if Juven can definitely improve soon and perform strong this season. There may be some problems that this club has to face but I am sure that all Juventus players and coaches will be able to go through this windstorm to get their dream to prove that Juven is a strong club like last season. My hope this season is only for Juventus to recover from getting a ticket to the European league even though their dream is to perform well in the champions league again but at least being able to get a ticket to the European league is better. I am sure that Massimiliano Allegri can get through all of this by convincing his players to keep performing with good performance and also have to focus on their dreams without having to be burdened with the problems that are currently experiencing Juven. Even though it a little hard to do it, faith will not betray effort[/left]
They should make the events they don't want to experience into more motivation, of course it would be great if they weren't affected at all by the problems that come their way. There is no point in lamenting what has already happened, there is no benefit at all. They should make it a valuable thing not to do again in the future. They are one of the best clubs ever, so they have to show that they deserve the title. They shouldn't falter so easily, they're one of the best clubs around. Moreover, they have their loyal supporters to please. The 12th man, they are an important factor for the club to improve.
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July 30, 2023, 06:25:35 PM |
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Now that they have been suspended from European competition, they will have more time to focus on Serie A. It's not an advantage, but they have to make the best of their problems. Yes they performed well as a team, but not as management which we can't help but say that they are more responsible for what Juventus have experienced this season.
In fact, this will still be an advantage for Juventus, as a less busy schedule will allow them to fully focus on Serie A in order to secure a place in the Champions League for the 2024/2025 season. Moreover, the Conference League is not such a prestigious tournament to set itself the goal of winning it, and in the end it would not bring big income for the team. Perhaps even without this, Serie A would still remain a priority tournament for Juventus.
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July 30, 2023, 06:27:41 PM |
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Juventus is one of the clubs that always brings big surprises in Serie-A and has always managed to finish in the top five of the standings in the previous several seasons, it's just that the points deduction caused Juventus to have problems and in the end they didn't qualify for the Champions League or Europa League next season. Their performance last season was also not too bad and I see that even though some of their players were injured Juventus still performed at their usual level, it shows that Juventus have a good mentality and they can always face any difficult conditions.
The arrival of several players in the transfer market can also affect Juventus' overall performance next season and I am optimistic that Juventus can compete in the top three next season if they make changes in several positions. Several players who left also had to be considered by the coach and how they had to be maximized with the arrival of new players.
Juventus is a team that is able to provide strong competition in every season in the top 4. For next season, it is hoped that Juventus will come back strong after failing last season so that we can enjoy more competitive competition next season. The management of Juventus for the time being has succeeded in recruiting 9 new players in this transfer window which can add strength to them next season. To compete in the top three doesn't seem like a difficult thing for juventus because in terms of the strength and quality of their players, i think juventus deserves to be included in the ranks of the teams that will win the scudetto. Allegri is not quite satisfied with the signing that has been carried out by the Juventus management, because he feels that there are still gaps that must be fixed immediately in this transfer window. I think Allegri is looking for a striker who has pure goalscoring skills to be able to bring back their aggressiveness up front. Previously vlahovic was not in his best form last season but he is expected to contribute more to score a lot of goals in the next season.
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Now that they have been suspended from European competition, they will have more time to focus on Serie A. It's not an advantage, but they have to make the best of their problems. Yes they performed well as a team, but not as management which we can't help but say that they are more responsible for what Juventus have experienced this season.
In fact, this will still be an advantage for Juventus, as a less busy schedule will allow them to fully focus on Serie A in order to secure a place in the Champions League for the 2024/2025 season. Moreover, the Conference League is not such a prestigious tournament to set itself the goal of winning it, and in the end it would not bring big income for the team. Perhaps even without this, Serie A would still remain a priority tournament for Juventus. Not qualifying for the Champions League has been good for Juventus. Because the team has not been able to dominate Serie A for a long time. They have not played well in Serie A in the last three seasons. And now the condition of the Juventus team is not good. The party is not stable. And so the team cannot perform consistently. For this reason next season Juventus will have enough time to stabilize the team and focus only on Serie A. If Juventus aims only for Serie A. And if the performance of Juventus players is stable. Then maybe Juventus will be able to dominate Serie A again. But there is no way to say for sure whether Juventus' performance will be stable next season.
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Mourinho is entering his last season with Roma. He turned down the offer came from Saudi Arabia despite its being a really tremendous one. He didn't get an offer from PSG as it was rumoured either so he is staying here. However I don't think he is unhappy at all. Because he has already stated that he wanted to continue to be a part of the Roma project.
The problem is they can't qualify for the Champions League for two seasons. They were actually quite close to do that last season. But they couldn't get past the biggest obstacle in the Europa League finale. For this season the ultimate goal should be to finish it in top 4 or win the Europa League title. Otherwise I won't expect Roma to extend with Mourinho. They had better make use of the transfer window very well.
I genuinely think that he should have taken the offer from Saudi Arabia. And he would have got a lot of money and he wouldn’t have been under the pressure that he is going to be while managing Roma. But I think he wants to stay relevant for someone time. And another thing is probably he understands that if he does end up taking, he might get a lot of money that he is not going to get a good offer from teams who are in the top level of competition anymore. The problem is they can't qualify for the Champions League for two seasons.
I think that might also be a reason why he is still not taking the offer from Saudi Arabia. He wants to take Roma to at least participate in the Champions League. Maybe he is thinking that it is going to give him a chance to extend his contract with Roma maybe.
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July 30, 2023, 08:58:20 PM |
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If it is indeed banned in the European conference championship, at least Juventus still has a chance to win the Italian league this season and can focus on the league taking advantage of this moment, even though it is also disappointing to hear of the sanction, but always take lessons from everything and Juventus must not be down in a situation like this , the sanctions they receive must be a lesson in the future so that it does not happen again.
This lesson will also serve for any club that’s trying to engage in any illegal financial misconduct that’s against the rule of the game. I see this as a very good opportunity for them if they can utilize it when the league starts. Juventus really have to be able to rise from their failure last season because of the sanctions they received and had to fail to enter the UCL as well as other European championships, but I believe this sanction can make Juventus focus more on the league championship this season and be able to compete with clubs like Napoli and other clubs are targeting at the top of the standings.
Juventus are a very good team and we can see how they were about to end up last season at the top table before their points were reduced after the sanction. This proved how strong of a team they are last season. This upcoming season, they’ll only feature in the Serie A and not in the Champions League, this will give them enough fitness and hope to win the Seria A title next season since they’re more focused on one competition now.
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July 30, 2023, 09:03:38 PM |
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Yes Of course they must be able to rise from their failure, also considering their schedule won't be too tight because they won't be playing in big Europa event, so they should be able to be consistent to collect lots of points. On the other side although they won't be playing in a big event, but if they can get the Scudetto then it will make their fans happy maybe also Juventus squad. It's actually hard task for Allegri, but he must be able to bring Juventus got Serie A title.
The incidents experienced by Juventus as a result of the sanctions that were given at this time had a great impact on the Juventus club and also the players. It is undeniable that this was very painful, not only was the number of points reduced last season. They were also forced to leave the UEFA European League this season. This. And they are also not included in the Champions League this season. So, you can be sure that this season Juventus will only focus on Serie A. Their focus right now is the Serie A championship and entry to the Champions League next season, so that they can get something of value back after their team slumped due to mismanagement over allegations of financial crimes. Of course, it will not be easy for Allegri to make his team win the title this year. There are many challenges, not to mention getting them back on mentally, strong, and also full of enthusiasm from the start of the season to the end. This is a big challenge for Allegri to bring his club to a higher position in Serie A and enter the UCL qualification next season. Even though actually winning the Scudetto title might be difficult for the club. Because after all there are several big clubs in Serie A that they have to face, even though they are very competitive.
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July 30, 2023, 09:22:31 PM |
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Now that they have been suspended from European competition, they will have more time to focus on Serie A. It's not an advantage, but they have to make the best of their problems. Yes they performed well as a team, but not as management which we can't help but say that they are more responsible for what Juventus have experienced this season.
In fact, this will still be an advantage for Juventus, as a less busy schedule will allow them to fully focus on Serie A in order to secure a place in the Champions League for the 2024/2025 season. Moreover, the Conference League is not such a prestigious tournament to set itself the goal of winning it, and in the end it would not bring big income for the team. Perhaps even without this, Serie A would still remain a priority tournament for Juventus. Not qualifying for the Champions League has been good for Juventus. Because the team has not been able to dominate Serie A for a long time. They have not played well in Serie A in the last three seasons. And now the condition of the Juventus team is not good. The party is not stable. And so the team cannot perform consistently. For this reason next season Juventus will have enough time to stabilize the team and focus only on Serie A. If Juventus aims only for Serie A. And if the performance of Juventus players is stable. Then maybe Juventus will be able to dominate Serie A again. But there is no way to say for sure whether Juventus' performance will be stable next season. It wasn't good for Juventus at all because when they don't get a ticket for the champions league they surely won't get more income from their sponsors and their players will lose motivation for the next season because they tried to get the chance to be in this tournament but at the end, they failed because of this punishment and this can defiantly have negative effected on this team.
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July 30, 2023, 10:39:04 PM |
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Yes Of course they must be able to rise from their failure, also considering their schedule won't be too tight because they won't be playing in big Europa event, so they should be able to be consistent to collect lots of points. On the other side although they won't be playing in a big event, but if they can get the Scudetto then it will make their fans happy maybe also Juventus squad. It's actually hard task for Allegri, but he must be able to bring Juventus got Serie A title.
The incidents experienced by Juventus as a result of the sanctions that were given at this time had a great impact on the Juventus club and also the players. It is undeniable that this was very painful, not only was the number of points reduced last season. They were also forced to leave the UEFA European League this season. This. And they are also not included in the Champions League this season. So, you can be sure that this season Juventus will only focus on Serie A. Their focus right now is the Serie A championship and entry to the Champions League next season, so that they can get something of value back after their team slumped due to mismanagement over allegations of financial crimes. Of course, it will not be easy for Allegri to make his team win the title this year. There are many challenges, not to mention getting them back on mentally, strong, and also full of enthusiasm from the start of the season to the end. This is a big challenge for Allegri to bring his club to a higher position in Serie A and enter the UCL qualification next season. Even though actually winning the Scudetto title might be difficult for the club. Because after all there are several big clubs in Serie A that they have to face, even though they are very competitive. I think that the next season is of existential relevance to them. They won't disappear or anything when they have another bad season, but they will have lots of difficulties to rebuild their team should they miss the Champions League again. As it has been said here already, sponsors will jump ship and other sources of income may also drop. The hardcore fans will be there, but revenue from ticket and merchandise sales might drop as well. This could go into a negative spiral for them. If they qualify for the Champions League and play a good season, I believe that this will be a dent in their development as a club but nothing more.
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July 30, 2023, 10:50:59 PM |
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Now that they have been suspended from European competition, they will have more time to focus on Serie A. It's not an advantage, but they have to make the best of their problems. Yes they performed well as a team, but not as management which we can't help but say that they are more responsible for what Juventus have experienced this season.
In fact, this will still be an advantage for Juventus, as a less busy schedule will allow them to fully focus on Serie A in order to secure a place in the Champions League for the 2024/2025 season. Moreover, the Conference League is not such a prestigious tournament to set itself the goal of winning it, and in the end it would not bring big income for the team. Perhaps even without this, Serie A would still remain a priority tournament for Juventus. Juventus' one year suspension from any European competition as a result of their alleged breach of Financial Fair Play rules would somehow be an advantage them compared to other big Italian clubs in the 2023/24 season. While other Italian big club's would be playing midweek European matches, Juventus would be resting ahead of another weekend domestic game which will make their players not to suffer from fatigue. I won't be surprised if they can utilize that opportunity and win the Italian scudetto next season
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As for Mourinho he hasn't still made much progress in the Serie A with Roma so far. That progress has been made well in European cups surely though. First winning the Europa Conference League title and right after that making it to the finale in the Europa League. They could have won that one as well if it weren't for Sevilla's great work.
But the board will surely expect Mourinho to finish a season in top 4 indeed. It isn't an impossible task for Roma. They just need to be more consistent with the players they have currently. I don't think their squad isn't adequate or so to perform this task as well.
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July 31, 2023, 01:01:28 AM |
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As for Mourinho he hasn't still made much progress in the Serie A with Roma so far. That progress has been made well in European cups surely though. First winning the Europa Conference League title and right after that making it to the finale in the Europa League. They could have won that one as well if it weren't for Sevilla's great work.
But the board will surely expect Mourinho to finish a season in top 4 indeed. It isn't an impossible task for Roma. They just need to be more consistent with the players they have currently. I don't think their squad isn't adequate or so to perform this task as well.
If you get enough funds, of course Mourinho can provide a lot of trophies for AS Roma. But currently Roma and other Serie A Clubs are in a bad financial period, as a result Mourinho has to struggle with makeshift players to win a championship trophy. The Conference League championship trophy is a testament to the genius of the Portuguese coach, and of course finishing in the Champions League Zone is his priority next season. I think that in the remainder of his contract Mourinho can give AS Roma a Scudetto, a trophy that their fans have been dreaming of for a long time until now.
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July 31, 2023, 01:22:56 AM |
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As for Mourinho he hasn't still made much progress in the Serie A with Roma so far. That progress has been made well in European cups surely though. First winning the Europa Conference League title and right after that making it to the finale in the Europa League. They could have won that one as well if it weren't for Sevilla's great work.
But the board will surely expect Mourinho to finish a season in top 4 indeed. It isn't an impossible task for Roma. They just need to be more consistent with the players they have currently. I don't think their squad isn't adequate or so to perform this task as well.
AS Roma have accomplished a lot since appointing Jose Mourinho as manager; he's not GOD, but a genius who records both winning and losing, he knows how to manage a club. He pursues his ultimate ambitions and ensures that he meets the objectives he set for himself. Jose Mourinho is looking forward to strengthening his squad, which will not be easy but with good planning and determination, he will achieve his goals. He did his best the previous season, accounting for his capacity to lift the European title but was denied by Sevilla's incredible form, which they won in the finals.
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