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December 24, 2023, 07:23:03 AM
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And in my opinion, Roma's victory is not a big surprise because Napoli are really down this season so Roma can take advantage of this to win the match.
As it happened, the amount of drama and cards that were taken out of the referee's pocket indicated that the tension in this game was very high and that was natural because after all, this was a match between two of Serie A's top teams.

I agree with you. Roma's win was expected. Napoli's performance was very erratic. The new coach is still not able to adapt himself well with the players of the team. I also find it unlikely that Walter Mazzarri will improve Napoli's performance very quickly. Napoli have played 8 matches since Walter Mazzarri took over as coach. Out of this they have won only 3 matches and lost 5 matches. We didn't see a good performance from Napoli players against Roma either. They don't try to attack much. I think Napoli's goal was to draw the match. But after receiving two red cards in the second half, they could no longer resist the Roma players.
Actually, Napoli wasn't bad, but they didn't have many options after receiving 2 red cards in the game. They lost 2-0, this is a big problem. Their performance is far from last year's magnificent Napoli. Roma, on the other hand, has been in great form. Napoli was an important opponent for them and they managed to return from this match with 3 points.

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December 24, 2023, 07:27:50 AM
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And in my opinion, Roma's victory is not a big surprise because Napoli are really down this season so Roma can take advantage of this to win the match.
As it happened, the amount of drama and cards that were taken out of the referee's pocket indicated that the tension in this game was very high and that was natural because after all, this was a match between two of Serie A's top teams.

I agree with you. Roma's win was expected. Napoli's performance was very erratic. The new coach is still not able to adapt himself well with the players of the team. I also find it unlikely that Walter Mazzarri will improve Napoli's performance very quickly. Napoli have played 8 matches since Walter Mazzarri took over as coach. Out of this they have won only 3 matches and lost 5 matches. We didn't see a good performance from Napoli players against Roma either. They don't try to attack much. I think Napoli's goal was to draw the match. But after receiving two red cards in the second half, they could no longer resist the Roma players.
Napoli's decision to bring in Mazzarri and fire Garcia did not seem to be the right decision from the start. Although I understand that Napoli's poor performance is actually not Mazzarri's fault because after all it is difficult to immediately expect a new coach to immediately make significant changes at the club when the season has not even reached the middle of the season at that time. I personally even hope that Garcia can stay longer at Napoli because firing Garcia is actually too hasty a decision. because Garcia also hasn't had enough time to really understand the Napoli squad this season.

So the defeat by Roma also doesn't surprise me. if there weren't two red cards, perhaps Napoli could still be ahead and achieve a draw in this match. But two red cards really made Napoli worse. If Politano had not been provoked then Napoli might not have lost this player. Because it was actually the Roma players who first provoked and caused a slight offense to Politano. Unfortunately, Politano was provoked by the opponent's provocation, which might actually have been in the Roma players' plans.

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December 24, 2023, 07:29:05 AM
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Yeah Roma has scored already I know that Mourinho cannot afford to lose this match as when he's playing a strong side that's when he brings out all his coaching skills, Lorenzo Pellegrini scored in the 76th minutes and he was assisted by Stephan El Shaarawy, it was indeed a lovely goal and i think it may just decide the outcome of the match.

The game was thrilling to watch and I love how Roma was able to grab the control of the game and won it in their favour. Roma is a team with also good players like Napoli and they also have a good coach. Napoli was just too comfortable in their comfort zone when they were suppose to be playing much better than what they played yesterday so that they can remain in the top spot for a longer time. Now they’ve fall down to 7th position which makes their journey to the top of the table more difficult to achieve.
It remains two matches for the half of the Serie A League to be played and Napoli is still struggling to win their matches in the Serie A this season. The defeat, Napoli had against Roma has shown that Napoli can no longer challenge for the Serie A title this season, and Napoli might even play below standard if Osimhen leaves the club in the January transfer window.

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December 24, 2023, 07:33:56 AM
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To be honest, if I had placed any bet on that game it would have been in Napoli to win. I avoided the game because both teams are teams that struggle and Roma was good at winning games like this but I wasn't sure of them because of their recent form.
There's no need to explain because it's already in the past. For those of us who like to bet on big matches, perhaps avoiding not placing a bet would be regretted rather than missing out on betting because it is difficult to guess based on analysis.
My prediction was correct in this match, namely AS Roma won for the 1x2 bet. My off-bet prediction was wrong. I predict AS Roma will win with a score of less than 2 goals.

Roma is now a point ahead of Napoli on 6th position while Napoli is 7th. I don't know how Bologna and Milan are going to hold on to the 4th and 3rd positions but I know currently, Roma and Napoli are not good enough to knock them off, maybe Fiorentina would.
One point difference with AS Roma is not a big difference that Napoli could still win again.
AS Roma have to face Juventus, in my opinion Napoli will be above AS Roma again after next week because Napoli will face Monza who will win according to my predictions.

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December 24, 2023, 07:35:36 AM
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By the way and this is also a great example why some football games can't be predicted. Until the moment when Politano got sent off everyone who put their bets on Napoli did the right thing as they have dominated the game, but then one action can change everything and that is what happened here. That is why you are correct when you say that it was a 10 minute disaster because sometimes nothing else is needed to decide a game. That's why there is never a guarantee that the favorite will win. There are many variables nobody can know or anticipate in advance.

I wouldn't say Napoli were dominant before the red card but they were slightly better. Roma played how they always play, sit back a little and look for an opportunity to pounce. That opportunity didn't come in the first half, but it came in the second.

To be honest, if I had placed any bet on that game it would have been in Napoli to win. I avoided the game because both teams are teams that struggle and Roma was good at winning games like this but I wasn't sure of them because of their recent form.

Roma is now a point ahead of Napoli on 6th position while Napoli is 7th. I don't know how Bologna and Milan are going to hold on to the 4th and 3rd positions but I know currently, Roma and Napoli are not good enough to knock them off, maybe Fiorentina would.

Well you may have put it in more precise words. Dominant is maybe too much of the good for Napoli, but they had control over the game and didn't really get under pressure and then I thought if the chance comes up for them, they are the team that is more likely to strike. That's also why I would have chosen Napoli as the winner, but the two teams are struggling and that makes it particularly difficult to determine who the favorite really is in such a game. Osimhen receiving a red card was stupid. That should have never happened and in my opinion it is straight out dumb to receive that second yellow when you know what's on the line in that game.

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Horrible night for Napoli really! Two red cards and a loss by 2-0... They could have done much better than this if none of those red cards were given to them. Even Osimhen got a red card in this match. The win was served on a silver platter for Roma literally. Despite Dybala's absence they managed to win but I don't feel like they could have won if Napoli didn't get any red card.

Because their performance wasn't good enough until the first red card. Mourinho should have preferred a more attacking game plan. He always does this in big matches and prefers a cautious game.

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December 24, 2023, 08:02:21 AM
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Horrible night for Napoli really! Two red cards and a loss by 2-0... They could have done much better than this if none of those red cards were given to them. Even Osimhen got a red card in this match. The win was served on a silver platter for Roma literally. Despite Dybala's absence they managed to win but I don't feel like they could have won if Napoli didn't get any red card.

Because their performance wasn't good enough until the first red card. Mourinho should have preferred a more attacking game plan. He always does this in big matches and prefers a cautious game.

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The win was served on a silver platter for Roma literally.

I was looking for words that best describe what happened to Napoli last night and I think you served me the words on a silver platter! Wink

I couldn't agree more that this was the real horror movie in which Napoli was eventually made the victim that died a horrible death literally. The evil part about this movie is that it isn't over, there is a second part in the form of two players missing the next games because of red cards.

I am sure Mourinho had a big fat smile on his face yesterday! Cheesy

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December 24, 2023, 08:09:21 AM
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And in my opinion, Roma's victory is not a big surprise because Napoli are really down this season so Roma can take advantage of this to win the match.
As it happened, the amount of drama and cards that were taken out of the referee's pocket indicated that the tension in this game was very high and that was natural because after all, this was a match between two of Serie A's top teams.

I agree with you. Roma's win was expected. Napoli's performance was very erratic. The new coach is still not able to adapt himself well with the players of the team. I also find it unlikely that Walter Mazzarri will improve Napoli's performance very quickly. Napoli have played 8 matches since Walter Mazzarri took over as coach. Out of this they have won only 3 matches and lost 5 matches. We didn't see a good performance from Napoli players against Roma either. They don't try to attack much. I think Napoli's goal was to draw the match. But after receiving two red cards in the second half, they could no longer resist the Roma players.

Difficult for me to believe that Victor Oshime signed a contract extension with Napoli. SMH!! They're now seventeen points behind the league leaders. I don't even think they're capable of challenging for the top four clubs in the Scudetto Competition.

I won't blame them too much, the double red card spoiled the game and the ref kinda had hand in this game. The first direct Red card on Politano was too harsh, a yellow card wouldn't have been a bad idea. But he went all out to card him out. Victor Oshime included didn't stamp on that player, only if he saw that clearly. That shouldn't have been given. Not too reckless though but the tackle came from behind.

I double doubt qualifications for the Champions League football next season would be possible.

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December 24, 2023, 08:22:59 AM
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I agree with you. Roma's win was expected. Napoli's performance was very erratic. The new coach is still not able to adapt himself well with the players of the team. I also find it unlikely that Walter Mazzarri will improve Napoli's performance very quickly. Napoli have played 8 matches since Walter Mazzarri took over as coach. Out of this they have won only 3 matches and lost 5 matches. We didn't see a good performance from Napoli players against Roma either. They don't try to attack much. I think Napoli's goal was to draw the match. But after receiving two red cards in the second half, they could no longer resist the Roma players.

Yes, Napoli is facing challenges under Walter Mazzarri's coaching. The recent statistics highlight some struggles, and the lack of attacking initiative is concerning. The two red cards in the second half certainly added to their difficulties against Roma. It will be interesting to see how Mazzarri addresses these issues and works on improving Napoli's performance in the upcoming matches.
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December 24, 2023, 08:30:39 AM
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I don't know if facing Roma alone would make Napoli feel frustrated and ultimately make them get red cards twice. This match was very hot and both teams seemed determined to win this match but unfortunately there can only be one winner in each match. Roma managed to take advantage of this superior number of players by scoring two goals and Napoli seemed to just surrender every time their goal was broken through.

They were short of players after Politano and Osimhen had to be sent off from the field, so even carrying out a defensive strategy still felt fragile. Napoli not only lost but will also lose key players in the next match due to this red card and what was most noticeable was the absence of Osimhen. Napoli's attack line will be dull again without Osimhen and this is clearly a loss that means they will again fail to get full points.

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December 24, 2023, 08:36:23 AM
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Well you may have put it in more precise words. Dominant is maybe too much of the good for Napoli, but they had control over the game and didn't really get under pressure and then I thought if the chance comes up for them, they are the team that is more likely to strike. That's also why I would have chosen Napoli as the winner, but the two teams are struggling and that makes it particularly difficult to determine who the favorite really is in such a game. Osimhen receiving a red card was stupid. That should have never happened and in my opinion it is straight out dumb to receive that second yellow when you know what's on the line in that game.
It is difficult for a player to control emotions when the team is under pressure and I think in football it is normal for what happened to Osimhen.
I am not surprised by the final result of this match, regardless of the game statistics because the most important thing is the final result and it must be admitted that Napoli are currently in a slump with a series of bad results so it is only natural that they lose again in this match.
I will not blame Napoli for losing to Roma last night because Napoli received two red cards in that match and it would be hard for any club in Napoli's situation yesterday not to concede defeat against a club like AS Roma. Napoli played more than AS Roma yesterday, but the two red cards stopped Napoli from not getting a point against AS Roma.

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December 24, 2023, 09:38:32 AM
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I don't know if facing Roma alone would make Napoli feel frustrated and ultimately make them get red cards twice. This match was very hot and both teams seemed determined to win this match but unfortunately there can only be one winner in each match. Roma managed to take advantage of this superior number of players by scoring two goals and Napoli seemed to just surrender every time their goal was broken through.

They were short of players after Politano and Osimhen had to be sent off from the field, so even carrying out a defensive strategy still felt fragile. Napoli not only lost but will also lose key players in the next match due to this red card and what was most noticeable was the absence of Osimhen. Napoli's attack line will be dull again without Osimhen and this is clearly a loss that means they will again fail to get full points.

This was frustrating for Napoli. But the performance from them has not been incredible as well. It's not like this is the only match where they are unlucky and if not for the decisions that were taken by the referee, they could have done a lot better. They are in a downward spiral right now. And I think it is actually going to increase the frustration, especially for Victor Osimhen. To be honest I don't see the performance improving quickly for them.

juventus won and this time they managed to score more than 1 goal, but conceded 1 goal, I see that juventus will not let inter be too far away in the table, knowing that inter at times start to become inconsistent in the middle of the season, I hope that This will happen again this season for Juventus to become champions. And talking about inter, they managed to win easily as expected, they scored 2 goals and didn't concede any goals, inter have been a very consistent team in attack and defense this season, I see that they are very determined to win the league
It is already half way through the season and Inter Milan is still very consistently in first place and with a much better number of goals scored than Juventus. I see Juventus having a little difficulty in scoring goals but they have a good enough defense so they can win game after game. And related to your statement which said that usually Inter will be inconsistent in the middle of the season, we can look forward to that and see whether they are able to appear consistent or not. Moreover, Lautaro Martinez's injury will certainly have a huge impact on Inter's performance in the next match.

Juventus team is consistently performing well in every match. However, the main  weakness of their squad is the erratic performance of the attacking players. Despite having a strong defense,  they are still fighting for the title with  Inter Milan. However  I still consider Inter Milan as the favorite for the title. Firstly they are  4 points ahead of Juventus. And secondly, the team's attack is very strong. The team is capable of scoring a lot of goals.

Inter Milan are unlikely to face major problems due to Martinez's injury in their next three matches against Genoa, Verona and Monza. All three teams are quite weak compared to Inter Milan. So even if Martinez is not in the squad, Inter Milan won't have much problem.

Inter Milan is ahead in terms of points by four. And at this moment I don't see them having too many problems from any team. If they lose then obviously Juventus might show them some competition. But right now they are relatively safer. And Juventus is performing pretty well. I think this is a season when they will actually have some competition for the title. I still think that Napoli is going to be the one to actually win the title. But let's say. Every season we see Juventus being unlucky. What if this season they are the lucky ones?

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December 24, 2023, 10:14:30 AM
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Martinez's picking up an injury must be really sad news for Inter. They won against Lecce comfortably anyway but they would like to have him back as soon as possible. His expected return date in January 3 now. They need him the most especially in bigger games in the Serie A and of course every single game from now on in the Champions League.  Grin

He is having a much more productive season. He has scored more than one third of the number of goals Inter have scored in the Serie A so far. He is doing just fine in the Champions League too but his contribution would be more critical as of the current round. They have a really tough matchup against Atletico Madrid.

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December 24, 2023, 10:23:17 AM
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Actually, Napoli wasn't bad, but they didn't have many options after receiving 2 red cards in the game. They lost 2-0, this is a big problem. Their performance is far from last year's magnificent Napoli. Roma, on the other hand, has been in great form. Napoli was an important opponent for them and they managed to return from this match with 3 points.

So, if there were no red cards in this match Napoli might not have lost maybe both teams play a draw Roma was just lucky in this situation. Sad to see Napoli currently in 7th position because we know that last season Napoli was the best team in the Italian League for some reason they can't maintain their position even though they are still playing the same squad there are only a few players who have moved. Osimhen, who is usually always a mainstay, is now unable to do the same as last season he seemed to be missing something in his abilities.

I don't think Napoli have a chance to win the Scudetto again this season even for a place in the champions league I doubt it, what exactly is missing from this club?
Is it just because their competitors are playing better or is this just an unlucky season for Napoli? sometimes questions like this are difficult to answer.

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I agree with you. Roma's win was expected. Napoli's performance was very erratic. The new coach is still not able to adapt himself well with the players of the team. I also find it unlikely that Walter Mazzarri will improve Napoli's performance very quickly. Napoli have played 8 matches since Walter Mazzarri took over as coach. Out of this they have won only 3 matches and lost 5 matches. We didn't see a good performance from Napoli players against Roma either. They don't try to attack much. I think Napoli's goal was to draw the match. But after receiving two red cards in the second half, they could no longer resist the Roma players.

Yes, Napoli is facing challenges under Walter Mazzarri's coaching. The recent statistics highlight some struggles, and the lack of attacking initiative is concerning. The two red cards in the second half certainly added to their difficulties against Roma. It will be interesting to see how Mazzarri addresses these issues and works on improving Napoli's performance in the upcoming matches.

AS Roma victory cannot be predicted because after all, before the match started the fact that Napoli was also still quite favored to win based on the odds. That means, AS Roma and Napoli both have a chance to win in this match, because after all, AS Roma also got their first goal after Napoli played with only 10 players. Also, aboout AS Roma second goal also came after Napoli got a red card for the second time.

So, with a goal that happened after Napoli got a red card then yes, it proves that Napoli has a chance to make the match end with a draw score. But yes, unfortunately Napoli failed to maintain their performance because they got a red card and obviously, by only playing with 10 and 9 players, it is natural that AS Roma won because if Napoli continued to play with 11 players of course AS Roma would also remain difficult to beat Napoli.

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December 24, 2023, 11:07:15 AM
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Well you may have put it in more precise words. Dominant is maybe too much of the good for Napoli, but they had control over the game and didn't really get under pressure and then I thought if the chance comes up for them, they are the team that is more likely to strike. That's also why I would have chosen Napoli as the winner, but the two teams are struggling and that makes it particularly difficult to determine who the favorite really is in such a game. Osimhen receiving a red card was stupid. That should have never happened and in my opinion it is straight out dumb to receive that second yellow when you know what's on the line in that game.
It is difficult for a player to control emotions when the team is under pressure and I think in football it is normal for what happened to Osimhen.
I am not surprised by the final result of this match, regardless of the game statistics because the most important thing is the final result and it must be admitted that Napoli are currently in a slump with a series of bad results so it is only natural that they lose again in this match.
I will not blame Napoli for losing to Roma last night because Napoli received two red cards in that match and it would be hard for any club in Napoli's situation yesterday not to concede defeat against a club like AS Roma. Napoli played more than AS Roma yesterday, but the two red cards stopped Napoli from not getting a point against AS Roma.
Napoli's quality of play has dropped a lot from their previous performances, they have been playing much better in the Italian league but why are they playing so badly this time around. They have been seen at the top of the points table for most of the time but this time they have moved to the 7th position. This is really funny. Even with a team like Roma, they won the match 2-0 today, so wasn't it because of Napoli's weakness? So why don't you blame them for their losses? It happened because Napoli played carelessly



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December 24, 2023, 11:16:20 AM
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AS Roma victory cannot be predicted because after all, before the match started the fact that Napoli was also still quite favored to win based on the odds. That means, AS Roma and Napoli both have a chance to win in this match, because after all, AS Roma also got their first goal after Napoli played with only 10 players. Also, about AS Roma second goal also came after Napoli got a red card for the second time.
The match like this can change very quickly and some turning points can happen. Bove can make this match more easily for Roma but two of his shots failed to be goals for Roma. Napoli did not create too many dangerous chances in the match but the match generally was very balancing before the red cards for Politano and Osimhen. After those red cards, Roma was boosted with Mourinho's substitution decisions. Pellegrini scored a winning goal for them and with not too good defense system in this season, Roma only know they get three points when Lukaku scored a second goal.

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So, with a goal that happened after Napoli got a red card then yes, it proves that Napoli has a chance to make the match end with a draw score. But yes, unfortunately Napoli failed to maintain their performance because they got a red card and obviously, by only playing with 10 and 9 players, it is natural that AS Roma won because if Napoli continued to play with 11 players of course AS Roma would also remain difficult to beat Napoli.
Napoli actually can get one point from the match but their players failed to control themselves and gave Roma great chances to win it. They have to go back to their home and train their players seriously about emotional and psychological control in important matches.

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December 24, 2023, 11:32:28 AM
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AS Roma victory cannot be predicted because after all, before the match started the fact that Napoli was also still quite favored to win based on the odds. That means, AS Roma and Napoli both have a chance to win in this match, because after all, AS Roma also got their first goal after Napoli played with only 10 players. Also, aboout AS Roma second goal also came after Napoli got a red card for the second time.
Yeah you are right because the both teams has an equal performance but however I believe that Napoli has more quality performance than As Roma because at the beginning of the match Napoli was dominating and putting more pressure on As Roma but however it was quite unfortunate that Napoli performance had to be cut short do to the two red card they had, actually one of the most challenging thing that would happen to a team is playing with short two because that's exactly what disorganised the performance of Napoli, they were finding it difficult to cope after the red card, so As Roma had to use the opportunity to break Napoli.

So actually if Napoli had not gotten any red card they would have surely win As Roma because they have really improve in times of performance this season, so perhaps there is every likelihood that Napoli will surely regain back there position because there next match against Monza will surely be a win match for them, while Roma will meet Juventus so is quite obvious that Juventus is far better than Roma in times of performance so is certainly going to be an opportunity for Napoli to go back to there 6 position on there table.

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December 24, 2023, 11:57:28 AM
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AS Roma victory cannot be predicted because after all, before the match started the fact that Napoli was also still quite favored to win based on the odds. That means, AS Roma and Napoli both have a chance to win in this match, because after all, AS Roma also got their first goal after Napoli played with only 10 players. Also, aboout AS Roma second goal also came after Napoli got a red card for the second time.

So, with a goal that happened after Napoli got a red card then yes, it proves that Napoli has a chance to make the match end with a draw score. But yes, unfortunately Napoli failed to maintain their performance because they got a red card and obviously, by only playing with 10 and 9 players, it is natural that AS Roma won because if Napoli continued to play with 11 players of course AS Roma would also remain difficult to beat Napoli.
Politano could not contain his emotions and let his team down, perhaps this violation did not deserve a second yellow card, but the referee made such a decision and this influenced the outcome of the match. Roma remained in the majority and after 10 minutes they were able to convert their advantage into a goal.

Osimhen's second yellow card was also dubious, it seemed that it was just a fight for the ball, nothing intentional, but it didn't matter anymore, because Napoli had no chance to equalize the score in this match anyway.

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December 24, 2023, 12:26:41 PM
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Politano could not contain his emotions and let his team down, perhaps this violation did not deserve a second yellow card, but the referee made such a decision and this influenced the outcome of the match. Roma remained in the majority and after 10 minutes they were able to convert their advantage into a goal.

Osimhen's second yellow card was also dubious, it seemed that it was just a fight for the ball, nothing intentional, but it didn't matter anymore, because Napoli had no chance to equalize the score in this match anyway.
The second yellow cards on both Victor Osimhen and Matteo Politano was not justifiable. Politano never intended to hurt his attacker but he just expressed his displeasure mildly. This red card was the sole cause of Napoli's defeat because the first goal came after the red card. Referees shouldn't just look at some actions on the surface, there is a need to check the impact as well as the intentions. Victor's red card was not also correct, it should have been a foul without any booking. It so becoming obvious that Napoli might not be able to defend the Seria A title, maybe they should focus on making it to the Champions League next season.

But they can channel more effort to the UCL, where they will be playing in the second round against Barcelona. The suspension of Victor Osimhen and Politano is a big blow to the team because they won't be available for the game against Monza on Friday the 29th. Napoli will have to do the extraordinary for them to move up out of the current 7th position because there are many quality clubs ahead of them in the Italian league.

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