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May 09, 2024, 06:55:31 PM
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Roma can still qualify for any of the European competitions including the Champions League but it will depend on the ability of the club to win all its games and other top teams losing their games. They will keep gunning for a European ticket until the end of the season. If they they fail, however, next season will be a great opportunity for De Rossi to prove his worth.
It only takes 4 points if As Roma wants to enter the Champions League and fully hopes that Bologna will lose so that Roma can catch up on points. If you look at As Roma's game, how do they want to enter the Champions League when in every match they get a draw in their last 2 matches?  , plus having to focus on Leverkusen's match in the Europa Cup is very confusing for As Roma in a situation like this.
I agree that it looks like Roma will probably not go to top four with the way they are playing right now. The scary thing is that they started their De Rossi period quite strongly and that made them think that they made a good decision by getting him, which could be true as well.

However, they started to lose points left and right every week, which means that they could have been at top four already if they won those games and they still ended up failing to win. This means that they are getting worse, and if this is the case for the long term then there is a potential that next year they can start the season with De Rossi, because he had a good start, but then next year they could be bad because it would be more like how it is going right now and not how it did at the start.

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May 09, 2024, 07:04:22 PM
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Frankly, I'm not very hopeful about Rome. After Leverkusen, they will go away to Atalanta. They will probably lose points there. The result of this match will be critical to determine the continuation of the league. If Atalanta wins, even Lazio has a chance to overtake Rome. They made a good breakthrough with De Rossi this year, but it will be very difficult to complete these breakthroughs. It is now the end of the league and every team will play with maximum performance.
Roma burden in the game against Leverkusen is of course very heavy because the game will be a hope for Roma to continue on the path of winning the Europa League this season if they can beat Leverkusen today with a score of 3-0, although they have hope to stay in the Europa League but I think Roma's chances of beating Leverkusen are very small,  In recent weeks Roma have had a difficult and hectic fixture schedule, last week they were matched by Juventus after previously being beaten by Leverkusen in the first leg and after facing Leverkusen today, Roma had to return to a difficult match against Atlanta.

Both teams are still fighting in the Europa League and I think the team that has better squad depth will win the match, yes because after the second leg of the Europa League semi-final, Atlanta and Roma only have 3 days to restore the performance and stamina of their players to be ready to make a very decisive match for both teams, but in my opinion Atlanta has a greater chance of winning the week 36 match later, because Atlanta will play in Italy in the second leg today, while Roma of course have to travel far enough to go to Germany so they have little time to rest, Roma chance of being above Atlanta seems to be difficult especially Atlanta has 1 more game left than Roma at this time.

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May 09, 2024, 07:11:40 PM
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Roma can still qualify for any of the European competitions including the Champions League but it will depend on the ability of the club to win all its games and other top teams losing their games. They will keep gunning for a European ticket until the end of the season. If they they fail, however, next season will be a great opportunity for De Rossi to prove his worth.
It only takes 4 points if As Roma wants to enter the Champions League and fully hopes that Bologna will lose so that Roma can catch up on points. If you look at As Roma's game, how do they want to enter the Champions League when in every match they get a draw in their last 2 matches?  , plus having to focus on Leverkusen's match in the Europa Cup is very confusing for As Roma in a situation like this.
I agree that it looks like Roma will probably not go to top four with the way they are playing right now. The scary thing is that they started their De Rossi period quite strongly and that made them think that they made a good decision by getting him, which could be true as well.

However, they started to lose points left and right every week, which means that they could have been at top four already if they won those games and they still ended up failing to win. This means that they are getting worse, and if this is the case for the long term then there is a potential that next year they can start the season with De Rossi, because he had a good start, but then next year they could be bad because it would be more like how it is going right now and not how it did at the start.

Roma doesn't have to finish top four. The fifth position gives them the Champions League qualification as well. That will be new from next season on. This still gives them a fair window of opportunity although Atalanta played one game less, but it is not a hopeless case. If you look at the whole score that De Rossi achieved with Roma, he is still doing quite well. They started dropping points in the wrong moment, but overall he has been doing better than Mourinho. It is still Roma and not Inter Milan or Manchester City. There are limits to what you can do with a team and what not.
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May 09, 2024, 07:26:44 PM
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I do not think Roma actually has any chance to finish in a position where they will be able to compete in the Champions League competition in the next season. But it is possible for them to finish in the fifth position and compete in the Europa League. Roma does have a match against Atalanta and if they lose that match, they will probably not be able to finish in the fifth position as well. It is looking tough for them. But I believe they should be able to finish in the fifth position. The problem is they have to think about the Europa League competition as well. So that might be a problem for them, to think about both competitions at the same time.

It seems like Roma might have a tough time securing a top-four finish this season. They have two challenging matches left against Atalanta and Genoa, and it's uncertain if they can emerge victorious in both. If they manage to win these games, they might still have a chance to clinch fourth place, especially if Bologna, their closest competitor, struggles in their remaining fixtures.

And Bologna will also faces formidable opponents like Napoli, Juventus, and Genoa, making it difficult for them to gather enough points. Considering the number of matches remaining and the strength of their opponents, Atalanta appears to be in a better position to secure a top-four finish. With four matches left to play and facing relatively easier opponents compared to Roma and Bologna, Atalanta has a higher probability of claiming a coveted spot in the top four of the league standings.

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May 09, 2024, 07:31:32 PM
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The most interesting thing is going to be seeing Bologna in the Champions League next season. I assume they wouldn't mess up on the last three weeks.  Grin

I have checked their Champions League history. I have seen they were a part of this tournament in 1960s the last time. The name of the tournament wasn't even "Champions League" those times.  Tongue  Therefore it is going to be a really meaningful success for Bologna. But can they do well in the Champions League? Their current squad doesn't look very promising to progress more. However the tournament format is also going to change so let's see what they can do.
They must be able to ensure that in the last 3 matches they will play they will not slip up. The reason is that if they achieve bad results then maybe they won't be able to be in the Champions League next season. They are only 4 points away from AS Roma who are now in 6th place, with 3 remaining matches there is still a possibility that AS Roma will be able to catch up with them if Bologna suffers at least 2 defeats.
Assuming they will successfully compete in the Champions League next season. I hope they can perform well and be able to compete there, don't let them just be a complementary team. They have to prepare as well as possible so they can talk a lot. But before that happens, they must first focus on the last 3 matches they will play, they must focus on getting points in those matches to enable them to go to the Champions League to accompany Inter Milan and AC Milan who have confirmed that they will be there.
I doubt that Bologna can maintain fourth place until the end of the season, because they still have tough opponents in the remaining three matches, Napoli and Juventus. Of course, this match has the potential to make Bologna lose points again. Bologna made mistakes in the last few matches because they kept losing points due to draws, from the last 5 matches they only won once and drew four times.

So in my opinion, As Roma and Atalanta have great potential to replace Bologna in fourth position, but the one with the most potential is Atalanta because there is still one match left, As Roma has played 35 times while Atalanta has played 34 times. In the next match, the two teams must face each other. This could be said to be a crucial match for both teams because this match will determine their position until the end of the season.

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May 09, 2024, 07:35:48 PM
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Frankly, I'm not very hopeful about Rome. After Leverkusen, they will go away to Atalanta. They will probably lose points there. The result of this match will be critical to determine the continuation of the league. If Atalanta wins, even Lazio has a chance to overtake Rome. They made a good breakthrough with De Rossi this year, but it will be very difficult to complete these breakthroughs. It is now the end of the league and every team will play with maximum performance.

Lazio will still have a point left to overtake Roma even if they lost the match to Atalanta. This is a very crucial match and both teams won’t take it lightly but will play their best in order to get a win. We are already coming to an end of the season and they both have a chance to book a spot in the champions league next season. This match is one that can determine the fate of these teams, so I expect the best performance by each team. Tonight, Roma have  Leverkusen to face and if they lose the match, they won’t be so confidence of winning the next one against Atalanta. They need a three goals difference in today’s match to qualify for the finals of the Europa League which in all ramifications looks impossible to achieve.

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May 09, 2024, 07:50:52 PM
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Frankly, I'm not very hopeful about Rome. After Leverkusen, they will go away to Atalanta. They will probably lose points there. The result of this match will be critical to determine the continuation of the league. If Atalanta wins, even Lazio has a chance to overtake Rome. They made a good breakthrough with De Rossi this year, but it will be very difficult to complete these breakthroughs. It is now the end of the league and every team will play with maximum performance.
The Europa League is unpredictable but the higher odds belongs to Bayer Leverkusen since they've maintain unbeaten to this very level of the tournament. They're currently losing 1-0 to AS Roma and its 2-1 on the scores aggregate, we all expects for an epic comeback for Leverkusen since that's typically what they're best known for. AS Roma are not behaving like a club that's desperate to fight for major position on the Seria A table this season. Roma are 6th position on the table and they still have chance to fight to enter the UEFA Champions League next season because FIFA have made it five qualifying team for Seria A and Bundesliga.

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May 09, 2024, 08:17:13 PM
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And Bologna will also faces formidable opponents like Napoli, Juventus, and Genoa, making it difficult for them to gather enough points. Considering the number of matches remaining and the strength of their opponents, Atalanta appears to be in a better position to secure a top-four finish. With four matches left to play and facing relatively easier opponents compared to Roma and Bologna, Atalanta has a higher probability of claiming a coveted spot in the top four of the league standings.

Atalanta is a very strong opponent for bologna because in as much as bologna is progressing on the table Atalanta on the other hand is doing very well and has also gathered enough point to compete with bologna and so far Atalanta has been so consistent and they are currently playing with Marseille and they are leading Marseille 1:0. So perhaps Atalanta may likely have a good chance over bologna because their is no way bologna will win all their matches especially their match against Juventus so is obvious they will lose to Juventus and if they do Atalanta will be their to take over their position. Though whichever way it turn out bologna and Atalanta will still qualify for champions league.

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May 09, 2024, 08:19:13 PM
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Frankly, I'm not very hopeful about Rome. After Leverkusen, they will go away to Atalanta. They will probably lose points there. The result of this match will be critical to determine the continuation of the league. If Atalanta wins, even Lazio has a chance to overtake Rome. They made a good breakthrough with De Rossi this year, but it will be very difficult to complete these breakthroughs. It is now the end of the league and every team will play with maximum performance.
The Europa League is unpredictable but the higher odds belongs to Bayer Leverkusen since they've maintain unbeaten to this very level of the tournament. They're currently losing 1-0 to AS Roma and its 2-1 on the scores aggregate, we all expects for an epic comeback for Leverkusen since that's typically what they're best known for. AS Roma are not behaving like a club that's desperate to fight for major position on the Seria A table this season. Roma are 6th position on the table and they still have chance to fight to enter the UEFA Champions League next season because FIFA have made it five qualifying team for Seria A and Bundesliga.

It turned out that AS Roma still had a very good effort,because in this first half AS Roma managed to win with a score of 0-1. I think this is also a bit of a surprise, because I thought AS Roma no longer had a chance to score a goal in this second leg because AS Roma was also playingaway but yes, in reality AS Roma still had good effort and motivation in this second leg. However, considering that for the next Serie A match AS Roma will also play away against Atalanta, of course this moment is a tough moment for AS Roma. Because afterall,if AS Roma wants to finish in the topfive to get a Champions League ticket, then of course AS Roma must be able to beat Atalanta, or at least draw. It will certainly be interesting to look forward to, because even though Serie A already has a team that has won the Scudetto, but there is still competition for the top five positions and Serie A will remain interesting until the end of thisseason.

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It turned out that AS Roma still had a very good effort,because in this first half AS Roma managed to win with a score of 0-1. I think this is also a bit of a surprise, because I thought AS Roma no longer had a chance to score a goal in this second leg because AS Roma was also playingaway but yes, in reality AS Roma still had good effort and motivation in this second leg.
Roma was really lucky at first against Leverkusen because they were awarded penalty kicks which ended in 2 goals. However, unfortunately the apposition was not able to be maintained by them. Because on the other hand, Leverkusen also became much more aggressive after Xabi changed his tactics and squad composition. Somehow seeing how Xabi works, it's quite reminiscent of what Real Madrid is like. who often gets goals in injury time. and this was almost Leverkusen almost lost, suddenly it was on the way.

The Europa League is almost filled with all Serie A clubs. However, Roma must recognize Leverkusen's superiority. And on the other hand, Atalanta has done it very well. at least they have fought much better.

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In matchday 35, it is interesting to see most of the matches ended with draws. Only 3 matches ended with a winner, other matches have no winners. I don't know why this happens, I don't think most the teams in Serie A have no motivation to chase the wins anymore. I hope it is just a coincidence!  Grin

Anyway, from all the teams in Serie A, Atalanta becomes the most consistent team to win the remaining matches. Atalanta may have a dream to finish this season in the top 3. But Atalanta must beat Roma in the upcoming match if they want to optimize the chance to finish in the 3rd place.

So in my opinion, As Roma and Atalanta have great potential to replace Bologna in fourth position, but the one with the most potential is Atalanta because there is still one match left, As Roma has played 35 times while Atalanta has played 34 times. In the next match, the two teams must face each other. This could be said to be a crucial match for both teams because this match will determine their position until the end of the season.
It is only possible if Atalanta can get full points against AS Roma in the next match. The match will be crucial for AS Roma, too. AS Roma will try to beat Atalanta, they will overtake Atalanta if they got full points. Simply, the match is very important for both teams. I really expect to see a tough match, both teams must play with their best lineups.

Anyway, most people predicted the match will end up with a draw.  Wink



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Frankly, I'm not very hopeful about Rome. After Leverkusen, they will go away to Atalanta. They will probably lose points there. The result of this match will be critical to determine the continuation of the league. If Atalanta wins, even Lazio has a chance to overtake Rome. They made a good breakthrough with De Rossi this year, but it will be very difficult to complete these breakthroughs. It is now the end of the league and every team will play with maximum performance.
I'm sure Roma will not let Atalanta win easily. We can see this match between Roma and Leverkusen, Roma gave their best performance which succeeded in making the match a draw. There is still a chance for Roma to give their best and always win in the final seconds of this competition.

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If Roma lose, I think they will definitely get it and there is no room for Roma to be able to reverse the aggregate against Leverkusen. It is very difficult to face a very strong team in all competitions and therefore it would be best if it could not be forced then Roma should think about being able to shift Atalana's position in the standings.

That is much more important and let Atalanta focus on both and Roma can take the opportunity to win when Atalanta's players are tired after returning from the European league. I'm curious considering the situation is so similar that we will be given an unexpected surprise to get a place in the champions league at the end of the season.

Roma has two options to get into the Champions League: 1.) Win the Europa League 2.) Take 5th place in Serie A. While both options look unlikely, the second option is much more realistic. Therefore, I agree that Roma needs to choose one thing and the best choice is to save maximum energy for the game with Atalanta.
By the way, an interesting option is if Atalanta wins the Europa League and Roma takes 5th place in Serie A, then there will be 6 Italian teams in the Champions League next season.
The chances of Roma winning this season's Europa League trophy are slim because they lost to Bayern Leverkusen 0-2 at home, and it will be difficult for Roma to beat Bayern Leverkusen at home in the second tie of the Europa League semi-final matches. If Roma can beat Atalanta in their Serie A, there will be hope for them to finish in 5th place in the Serie A table.



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May 10, 2024, 04:09:35 AM
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Frankly, I'm not very hopeful about Rome. After Leverkusen, they will go away to Atalanta. They will probably lose points there. The result of this match will be critical to determine the continuation of the league. If Atalanta wins, even Lazio has a chance to overtake Rome. They made a good breakthrough with De Rossi this year, but it will be very difficult to complete these breakthroughs. It is now the end of the league and every team will play with maximum performance.
The Europa League is over for Roma after being knocked out by Leverkusen in the semifinals, now it's time for them to focus on Serie A to finish in a better position. Roma must take advantage of the game at Atalanta headquarters in the Serie A continuation to secure their position from Lazio who are only four points behind them.
Atalanta, who performed very well this season, made them qualify for the Europa League final after getting rid of Marseille, but Gian Piero Gasperini had to rack his brains in arranging the players against Roma because in the next three days they will play an important match when they face Juventus in the Coppa Italia final. I think Atalanta will rest several important players when they host Roma at Gewiss Stadium because Gasperini has to prepare his best squad when facing Juventus.

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I agree that it looks like Roma will probably not go to top four with the way they are playing right now. The scary thing is that they started their De Rossi period quite strongly and that made them think that they made a good decision by getting him, which could be true as well.

However, they started to lose points left and right every week, which means that they could have been at top four already if they won those games and they still ended up failing to win. This means that they are getting worse, and if this is the case for the long term then there is a potential that next year they can start the season with De Rossi, because he had a good start, but then next year they could be bad because it would be more like how it is going right now and not how it did at the start.

Roma doesn't have to finish top four. The fifth position gives them the Champions League qualification as well. That will be new from next season on. This still gives them a fair window of opportunity although Atalanta played one game less, but it is not a hopeless case. If you look at the whole score that De Rossi achieved with Roma, he is still doing quite well. They started dropping points in the wrong moment, but overall he has been doing better than Mourinho. It is still Roma and not Inter Milan or Manchester City. There are limits to what you can do with a team and what not.
Moreover, Roma only has chance to be in the top 5 because getting to the top 4 is not an easy matter, plus Bologna often perform well and they will not let their position be taken over by another team below them.
Only one who has to be eliminated is Atalanta but this is not team that can be underestimated and in the match Roma will play away from home, it will clearly not be easy for Roma to win and save full points to occupy the top 5 rankings.
Whoever wins the match will definitely get comfortable conditions because that means winning by 3 points.

But for some reason I feel that this match will only end in draw and Atalanta and Roma will have the opportunity to share the points.

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I'm sure Roma will not let Atalanta win easily. We can see this match between Roma and Leverkusen, Roma gave their best performance which succeeded in making the match a draw. There is still a chance for Roma to give their best and always win in the final seconds of this competition.
These two teams are quite close in the Italian League standings table this season with the same number of points even though their number of matches is still different. I see that these two teams have also improved quite a bit in the remainder of this season and if you look at how Roma put up resistance against Leverkusen, you should also see how Atalanta beat Liverpool in the Europa League this season and also beat Marseille in the semifinals of the Europa League this season. These two are quite good teams now and their match will definitely be very fierce because Atalanta is also in great spirits after successfully advancing to the Europa League final this season.

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May 10, 2024, 05:32:00 AM
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It will be quite a complicated round of changing coaches starting next season and of course Milan wants to get a coach who is equal in experience. The Porto coach is indeed their current target but it is possible that it will fail if Sergio Conceica still wants to stay in Portugal.

Apart from that, if Motta becomes Milan coach it will boost his career even better with the squad depth being much better than Bologna. He will also get what he wants if he chooses Milan and it all depends on whether this goes smoothly or not. If I were the owner of Milan, then I would prefer Motta to Sergio Conceica.
Conceica ready to move to AC Milan based on rumor few days ago, but his long contract with Porto may can be an obstacle for Milan, since the release clause value more than €20m. If there is no options, so Milan need to pay that money to bring Conceica.

On X platform I saw a posts about possibility of Conte become Pioli successor next seasons. lets make an assumptions between Motta and Conte as alternative, I will prefer Conte for sure. Motta not bad with Bologna but Conte may can give Milan some trophies in domestic or even UEFA league.

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May 10, 2024, 05:32:16 AM
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These two teams are quite close in the Italian League standings table this season with the same number of points even though their number of matches is still different. I see that these two teams have also improved quite a bit in the remainder of this season and if you look at how Roma put up resistance against Leverkusen, you should also see how Atalanta beat Liverpool in the Europa League this season and also beat Marseille in the semifinals of the Europa League this season. These two are quite good teams now and their match will definitely be very fierce because Atalanta is also in great spirits after successfully advancing to the Europa League final this season.
Their meeting will determine who deserves to occupy the top 6 places to compete in the Europa League next season with more points, but Atalanta still has one match left. If Atalanta wins that match, maybe the difference in points between Roma and Atalanta is not the same. But if Roma is able beat Atalanta in their next meeting Roma still has a chance to fight for that place when Atalanta prepares an important match to meet Leverkusen later which will be a tough match to get the Europa League title. If you look at Roma's performance today, they failed to beat Leverkusen compared to Atalanta, who can beat Liverpool, of course, many people think that Atalanta's performance is better than Roma.

But these two clubs have almost equal performance and it is quite difficult to determine who will win their match later or it could be a draw between Atalanta and Roma so between them they are still competing fiercely until the end, it will be very painful for Roma if they fail to be in the zone Champions League next season and currently it is difficult to be in the Europa League zone.

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May 10, 2024, 06:58:36 AM
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I'm sure Roma will not let Atalanta win easily. We can see this match between Roma and Leverkusen, Roma gave their best performance which succeeded in making the match a draw. There is still a chance for Roma to give their best and always win in the final seconds of this competition.
These two teams are quite close in the Italian League standings table this season with the same number of points even though their number of matches is still different. I see that these two teams have also improved quite a bit in the remainder of this season and if you look at how Roma put up resistance against Leverkusen, you should also see how Atalanta beat Liverpool in the Europa League this season and also beat Marseille in the semifinals of the Europa League this season. These two are quite good teams now and their match will definitely be very fierce because Atalanta is also in great spirits after successfully advancing to the Europa League final this season.
The meeting between Atalanta and AS Roma will be a very interesting match and it will also be a match that will determine a little about who will finish in the top 5 at the end of the standings. AS Roma are in good condition at the moment, even though they had to be eliminated from the Europa League, but we know that their game did not disappoint and they could even take the lead before they finally had to draw because Leverkusen managed to equalize in the last minute. This wasn't their fault, because their opponents were the ones who were very strong. Leverkusen can always score goals in the final minutes of a match which makes them always avoid defeat.
This match will benefit Atalanta because they will act as hosts, but that doesn't mean As Roma can't beat them.

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May 10, 2024, 07:11:04 AM
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The meeting between Atalanta and AS Roma will be a very interesting match and it will also be a match that will determine a little about who will finish in the top 5 at the end of the standings. AS Roma are in good condition at the moment, even though they had to be eliminated from the Europa League, but we know that their game did not disappoint and they could even take the lead before they finally had to draw because Leverkusen managed to equalize in the last minute. This wasn't their fault, because their opponents were the ones who were very strong. Leverkusen can always score goals in the final minutes of a match which makes them always avoid defeat.
This match will benefit Atalanta because they will act as hosts, but that doesn't mean As Roma can't beat them.
AS Roma have to forget their performance against Leverkusen in Europa League because now, they will not be eligible for the final match. They have to quickly return to Serie A with another big match and another difficult task to get three points from another tough opponent, Atalanta.

Beating Atalanta is very important and it's the only way for Roma to continue their fight and hope to get a fifth position in Serie A in last three matches in the league. Beating Atalanta in a direct match first and try to win all two remaining matches but Roma need another condition, Atalanta must lose points in their matches too but the first and most important condition, lose 3 points in a direct matches with Roma.
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