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August 26, 2024, 05:08:27 PM
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It's been several times since I've had a hard time predicting Italian League matches, not only Milan's matches were disappointing, but also yesterday's matches, Atalanta and Fiorentina also performed badly, Fiorentina drew against the promoted club Venezia and Atalanta was defeated by Torino, it was a really annoying week betting on the Italian League Sad

With fiorentina, I was personally disappointed, I expected better, they had an opponent that should have posed a challenge to them so much that they will loose without a single goal, I really wasn't happy at such performance, invariably they are making us to drop every expectations of them this season as they may not be able to literally deliver beyond last season because honestly thats exactly what a slow start could mean to me, tho they were able to get a point of the game but it wasn't still a thing to be proud of enough. Atlanta was another team I had high expectations form considering how they won the previous seasons Europa and how they waxed strong there after, maybe they are trying to gradually get back.
I think for now you may just be unlucky in predicting which team will win, but actually I personally don't want to try to bet on every match that is played at the moment before the transfer market closes, I think it is too risky for us to bet on a match where indeed each team has not shown their true performance and strength because there are still many changes that may happen in their squad, Just as Juventus are still improving and improving the quality of their squad, as well as Napoli who I think have not yet found the team framework that suits Conte's current wishes, Fiorentina and Atlanta have also undergone many changes in their squads and I think that's why we also can't say if big teams will win easily over a team that is below their  level so far.
The number of big team matches that we have seen so far has actually disappointed us because the results of the matches are not according to expectations and not only in Serie A, but also big teams in other leagues are also experiencing the same thing because indeed their performance and strength are not 100% at the moment.

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August 26, 2024, 05:08:37 PM
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Cagliari - Como
Verona - Juventus

Cagliari match I am sure can score and even though Como played badly in the first match but Cagliari is actually also a weak club and I think that Cagliari and Como have the same performance.
From head to head I am quite sure that both clubs will still score.

Verona - Juventus, actually Juventus has the opportunity to beat Verona but in any case Verona cannot be underestimated because they can beat Napoli with 3 scores without reply.
Verona has a pretty good defense with more consistent attacking players while Juventus still has quite tough attacking players and is ready to score.

Verona and Juventus both won their opening matches 3-0. Verona surprised everyone by beating Napoli, although their defense was shaky, and they could have lost. In my opinion, the score did not reflect the game, as Napoli could have won considering their strong first half. Juventus comfortably defeated Como, showing strong attacking play and solid defense. Despite some injuries, Juve has a strong squad. With their experience and quality, Juventus should be able to beat Verona.

My prediction is a win for Juventus.

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August 26, 2024, 05:15:33 PM
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Damn you Roma! My parlay lost because of you.  Cry  Empoli were the better side in the first half and the goal was already imminent. Roma had so many shots hitting the post by the way. And Paredes... I don't know what to say. It was such a amateurish tackle to cause a penalty. I added Roma to win & over 1.5 goals into my parlay by the way. I wish I preferred over 2.5 goals instead.

Roma seem really bad. Only 1 point after leaving 2 weeks behind. I don't know what's wrong for now. But I'm sure of one thing, I won't bet on them once again until I see them reliable enough.

It was a home game, and Roma unexpectedly lost against Empoli, which is a relegation team. We must not start Paredes in the next game. I'm also concerned about Cristante and Pellegrini performance. The decision to pair Cristante, Pellegrini, and Paredes is the worst thing.

It will be so dumb if Rossi keeps coming with the same lineup in the upcoming game. Yet, it's unbelievable to see that Cristante and Pellegrini are still playing for us. This is because they were the main causes of our mediocrity in the past years on our team.

I'm sorry for your loss, but you better stay away from betting on Roma for some time. I was always deciding to pass the bet when i was not really sure about the performance of my team.

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August 26, 2024, 05:35:53 PM
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Verona - Juventus

Verona - Juventus, actually Juventus has the opportunity to beat Verona but in any case Verona cannot be underestimated because they can beat Napoli with 3 scores without reply.
Verona has a pretty good defense with more consistent attacking players while Juventus still has quite tough attacking players and is ready to score.

The old ladies are looking more refreshed since the beginning of the season after a disappointing end of last campaign and with their performance in their first game many are seeing them as the favorite to win this game against Verona but the home team are not going to sit back and let Juve get all 3 point. Both teams are equally going to find the back of the net judging from their last games respectively and the home side look like a team to give the visitors a headache in tonight's encounter, Juventus need to avoid defeat in this game and I think it might end in a draw.

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August 26, 2024, 06:16:25 PM
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We all know Juventus flexed their muscles against Como, a clean 3-0 win. But Verona stunned Napoli with the same scoring line. This aint gonna be easy. Nico Gonzalez? Excellent pickup, very sure. Adds some quite heavy front-of-sight firepower. Remember, though, its about the team's connection rather than only individual ability.

Thiago Motta, the ball's in your court. Although we have seen your strategies at home, could you perform on the road against a fired-activated Verona? The true test is that one. Juventus possesses the quality, without doubt. Tonight, though, its about demonstrating they have the tenacity and flexibility to win challenging road games. This is where champions are made.
Honestly Juventus looked like they changed something from the roots, they are really looking like a brand new team and we can definitely see something that can change the results, it is going to be fun and we are going to end up with a great end and couldn't really make it work any other way. We are going to see something Motta does to this team, because squad isn't really that complicated and we could consider the situation to be very entertaining in the end, we have to make it work one way or another and have to do something nice, it's the most important part of it.

I believe that the best thing to do right now is the fact that it is going to be nice, and for that to mean something it will definitely be good for everyone at the same time. Betting on Juventus is so fun, I think 1.5+ goals difference, over/under feature basically will be used and utilized a lot for their games because they have a great scoring offensive line that will help them a lot.

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August 26, 2024, 06:31:11 PM
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We all know Juventus flexed their muscles against Como, a clean 3-0 win. But Verona stunned Napoli with the same scoring line. This aint gonna be easy. Nico Gonzalez? Excellent pickup, very sure. Adds some quite heavy front-of-sight firepower. Remember, though, its about the team's connection rather than only individual ability.

Thiago Motta, the ball's in your court. Although we have seen your strategies at home, could you perform on the road against a fired-activated Verona? The true test is that one. Juventus possesses the quality, without doubt. Tonight, though, its about demonstrating they have the tenacity and flexibility to win challenging road games. This is where champions are made.
Honestly Juventus looked like they changed something from the roots, they are really looking like a brand new team and we can definitely see something that can change the results, it is going to be fun and we are going to end up with a great end and couldn't really make it work any other way. We are going to see something Motta does to this team, because squad isn't really that complicated and we could consider the situation to be very entertaining in the end, we have to make it work one way or another and have to do something nice, it's the most important part of it.

I believe that the best thing to do right now is the fact that it is going to be nice, and for that to mean something it will definitely be good for everyone at the same time. Betting on Juventus is so fun, I think 1.5+ goals difference, over/under feature basically will be used and utilized a lot for their games because they have a great scoring offensive line that will help them a lot.
Thiago Motta has given a new color to the Juventus squad, he is really making a new foundation. In the first match, Motta successfully brought the Old Lady to a landslide victory over Como, even though they were only playing against a promoted team, their playing style was indeed worthy of winning that victory. Yes, of course, the match against Verona will be quite a challenging match because Verona unexpectedly managed to win over Napoli. I think Motta has prepared his best formation and I am sure the Bianconeri will be able to win that match again.

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August 26, 2024, 06:41:58 PM
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Verona - Juventus

Verona - Juventus, actually Juventus has the opportunity to beat Verona but in any case Verona cannot be underestimated because they can beat Napoli with 3 scores without reply.
Verona has a pretty good defense with more consistent attacking players while Juventus still has quite tough attacking players and is ready to score.

The old ladies are looking more refreshed since the beginning of the season after a disappointing end of last campaign and with their performance in their first game many are seeing them as the favorite to win this game against Verona but the home team are not going to sit back and let Juve get all 3 point. Both teams are equally going to find the back of the net judging from their last games respectively and the home side look like a team to give the visitors a headache in tonight's encounter, Juventus need to avoid defeat in this game and I think it might end in a draw.

Both of this teams have won their first match and judging from the way they’ve both played in the first round of the game. They are going to give each other a tough time in this match. Juventus should have been the better and most preferred team to win, but Verona are also not a very bad team that can be said to be won easily by Juventus. Both of them have this mentality of winning in today’s encounter. Verona beating Napoli to a three goal to none should be feared with this their tactics, they might also unleash the same onto juventus tonight in their home. I really want to see how this match will end, because for now I can’t predict or assume the outcome of this match.

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August 26, 2024, 06:55:06 PM
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Verona - Juventus, actually Juventus has the opportunity to beat Verona but in any case Verona cannot be underestimated because they can beat Napoli with 3 scores without reply.
Verona has a pretty good defense with more consistent attacking players while Juventus still has quite tough attacking players and is ready to score.
And this is a very golden opportunity if they work well and play together with their team then it is hard to lose them.  Obviously, they are also a good perform team.  But Juventus will win if they play strong.  The match is going to start in a little while, so with time it will be known who can win and who can not at that time we can only predict.Verona are in good spirits and I think Verona will be beaten.And let see if Juventus can stop Verona or not the match is going to be very interest.

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August 26, 2024, 06:58:28 PM
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Milan and Roma are part of the top teams that started the season very badly, defeated by weak teams like Parma and Empoli. This kind of defeat may be understandable because sometimes changing players and changing coaches takes longer to adapt to build stronger performance. In this case, Milan actually has a little problem with the new coach who may also be setting the best strategy to be able to create solid cooperation. And Roma only has a few changes to some players who have just been replaced. We have to give the 2 teams another chance at least 5 more matches and if the results are bad, it is likely that Milan and Roma will not be able to compete in the top 3 positions.
AC Milan is starting this season with a new coach. Some changes have even occurred in their squad. So it will take time for this team to return to its maximum performance again. And we really have to see more matches that Milan will face before judging them as a whole. Paulo Fonseca seems to have to first build better communication with the players. Because there are rumors circulating that AC Milan players are sometimes confused by the coach's instructions. But only getting 1 point from the two weeks played is quite bad for a club as big as AC Milan. And next week an even more difficult match awaits AC Milan. Because they will face Lazio.
Considering that Milan equalized in the last 5 minutes last week, the manager probably has a lot to think about. Perhaps they got complacent because they got very successful results in the friendly matches. This complacency must have ruined them in the league. Instead of gaining six points in two matches, they gained only one. They have already lost five very critical points on the way to the championship. I don't think they will make up for this. If they lose to Lazio next week, the alarms will start ringing for Fonseca.

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August 26, 2024, 07:01:08 PM
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Verona - Juventus, actually Juventus has the opportunity to beat Verona but in any case Verona cannot be underestimated because they can beat Napoli with 3 scores without reply.
Verona has a pretty good defense with more consistent attacking players while Juventus still has quite tough attacking players and is ready to score.
And this is a very golden opportunity if they work well and play together with their team then it is hard to lose them.  Obviously, they are also a good perform team.  But Juventus will win if they play strong.  The match is going to start in a little while, so with time it will be known who can win and who can not at that time we can only predict.Verona are in good spirits and I think Verona will be beaten.And let see if Juventus can stop Verona or not the match is going to be very interest.
Verona is in high confidence after successfully defeating Napoli in the first match. Against Juventus is certainly not an easy matter but thanks to the capital in the first match Verona is trying to regain its fortune especially playing at home. Meanwhile Juventus under Motta's guidance is also considered stronger, they also managed to secure full points when playing against Como. But the match against Verona will be a benchmark for Motta whether he is able to manage the big team well or vice versa. However, I predict that the old lady will be able to achieve an impressive victory.

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August 26, 2024, 07:04:07 PM
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AC Milan's results in their first two games of the season is without doubt very shocking especially to fans of the club. The new manager of finding it very difficult come up with the best formation and style of play that'll bring out the best from his boys and that has drawn a lot of criticisms to him with many questioning his managerial strength to manage a big team like AC Milan.

Personally, feel AC Milan will bounce back but for them to challenge for the title this season, they must bounce back now before it gets too late for them to recover and challenge for the league title.
I agree that AC Milan start to season is very bad. New manager is having hard time finding right way to play and that is causing a lot of worry. He is getting criticized because people expect a lot from AC Milan. But I think team can still do well. To win title they need to improve fast and find their rhythm soon. If they do not it will be hard to catch up. Manager needs to find right plan and players need to try harder. If they improve quickly I think AC Milan can get back on track and compete for the title.
Milan and Roma are part of the top teams that started the season very badly, defeated by weak teams like Parma and Empoli. This kind of defeat may be understandable because sometimes changing players and changing coaches takes longer to adapt to build stronger performance. In this case, Milan actually has a little problem with the new coach who may also be setting the best strategy to be able to create solid cooperation. And Roma only has a few changes to some players who have just been replaced. We have to give the 2 teams another chance at least 5 more matches and if the results are bad, it is likely that Milan and Roma will not be able to compete in the top 3 positions.
Though let's be honest, Milan and Roma are looking unstable. Early season setbacks happen. Milan's has Fonseca's system, yet on the field they seem to be speaking another tongue. Right now they're a mess; confusion kills momentum. Lazio's following? That's gonna be a gut check. Roma? fresh faces, old issues. De Rossi has his work there in front him. These are either developing pains or something worse. We shall see.  There is not time in Serie A for slow beginnings. The clock's ticking, boys. Get things together; else, get left behind
I have not seen a team that has collected six points as the second leg of Serie A comes to an end. Therefore, the points losses seem insignificant at the moment. In the ongoing match, Juventus will face Verona, the match has just started and there are no goals in the match at the moment. Both teams won their first matches, so if one of the two teams wins, they will be the league leaders. My favorite for now is Juventus. My opinion may change depending on the later part of the match. As a Turk, I also follow Kenan Yıldız, who plays for Juventus. I hope he has a good season this year. Motta trusts him.

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August 26, 2024, 07:48:44 PM
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We all thought Hellas Verona vs Juventus match would be very competitive. Because Hellas Verona team is not weak. Hellas Verona won the first match against the likes of Napoli by a big margin of 3-0. Hellas Verona had a very tight gameplay against Napoli. That is why my guess is that it is going to be challenging for Juventus to finish the match by 3 points.

However, Juventus players are performing well in today's match. I would say if Juventus are not unlucky then they will have no problem winning this match. At the end of the first half, Juventus led 2-0. Most of the attacks were done by Juventus players in the first half. But each of their attacks seemed to me to be well-planned. Juventus' match strategy is excellent. Juventus won the first match 3-0 against Como. In today's match too, my guess is Juventus will win by at least 2 goals.

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August 26, 2024, 07:54:47 PM
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Atalanta lost away to Torino.Atalanta scored the first goal but conceded after 5 minutes.Torino started the 2nd half fast and scored the 2nd goal at the beginning of the second half to take the lead.The match ended with this score.Che Adams scored 1 goal and 1 assist to give Torino 3 points.
Fiorentina drew with Venezia at home.The new team of the league managed to get a draw against Fiorentina.Fiorentina should have won this match but they got their 2nd draw in the league.It is obvious that both teams got into positions but could not score.

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August 26, 2024, 07:57:12 PM
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The old ladies are looking more refreshed since the beginning of the season after a disappointing end of last campaign and with their performance in their first game many are seeing them as the favorite to win this game against Verona but the home team are not going to sit back and let Juve get all 3 point. Both teams are equally going to find the back of the net judging from their last games respectively and the home side look like a team to give the visitors a headache in tonight's encounter, Juventus need to avoid defeat in this game and I think it might end in a draw.
3 matches (with today's match) it seems that Juventus really want to show the change that they really want to develop in a better direction.
Motta has really made a good contribution so far where apart from their possession being better for now compared to last season, they also have enough composure and a good mentality that in the end this makes their performance develop very well.

The first half against Verona in this  match is over and they have already scored 2 goals which of course seeing this 3 points are likely to be back in their possession. In addition, now Dusan has also opened the tap of goals for Juventus.  Hopefully his performance will return again because indeed since being brought from Fiorentina Dusan has still not made a big contribution until now for Juventus.

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August 26, 2024, 08:21:51 PM
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We all thought Hellas Verona vs Juventus match would be very competitive. Because Hellas Verona team is not weak. Hellas Verona won the first match against the likes of Napoli by a big margin of 3-0. Hellas Verona had a very tight gameplay against Napoli. That is why my guess is that it is going to be challenging for Juventus to finish the match by 3 points.

However, Juventus players are performing well in today's match. I would say if Juventus are not unlucky then they will have no problem winning this match. At the end of the first half, Juventus led 2-0. Most of the attacks were done by Juventus players in the first half. But each of their attacks seemed to me to be well-planned. Juventus' match strategy is excellent. Juventus won the first match 3-0 against Como. In today's match too, my guess is Juventus will win by at least 2 goals.

I don't see any chance for Hellas Verona to make a comeback. Vlahovic scored another goal from the penalty spot in the second half. Juventus lead 3-0 after 70 minutes. Your guess is probably correct that Juventus will win this match by at least 2 goals.

Juventus players seem very confident to me today. However, in Hellas Verona's home match, I expected a better performance from the Verona players. But Hellas Verona can't survive for long against the attack of Juventus. Verona's performance in the second half was weaker than the first half. In the 25 minutes of the second half, the players of Hellas verona managed to make only one shot. Like the first match, Juventus is going to get an easy win in today's match. If Juventus continues this performance, Juventus has a great chance of winning Serie A this year.

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August 26, 2024, 08:38:14 PM
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We all thought Hellas Verona vs Juventus match would be very competitive. Because Hellas Verona team is not weak. Hellas Verona won the first match against the likes of Napoli by a big margin of 3-0. Hellas Verona had a very tight gameplay against Napoli. That is why my guess is that it is going to be challenging for Juventus to finish the match by 3 points.

However, Juventus players are performing well in today's match. I would say if Juventus are not unlucky then they will have no problem winning this match. At the end of the first half, Juventus led 2-0. Most of the attacks were done by Juventus players in the first half. But each of their attacks seemed to me to be well-planned. Juventus' match strategy is excellent. Juventus won the first match 3-0 against Como. In today's match too, my guess is Juventus will win by at least 2 goals.
I don't see any chance for Hellas Verona to make a comeback. Vlahovic scored another goal from the penalty spot in the second half. Juventus lead 3-0 after 70 minutes. Your guess is probably correct that Juventus will win this match by at least 2 goals.

Juventus players seem very confident to me today. However, in Hellas Verona's home match, I expected a better performance from the Verona players. But Hellas Verona can't survive for long against the attack of Juventus. Verona's performance in the second half was weaker than the first half. In the 25 minutes of the second half, the players of Hellas verona managed to make only one shot. Like the first match, Juventus is going to get an easy win in today's match. If Juventus continues this performance, Juventus has a great chance of winning Serie A this year.

In the end, Juventus won the match 3-0. Hellas verona's players seemed very helpless to me today. Even if they can make several attacks, they cannot break Juventus's defense.

Hellas Verona players did not attack much in the first match against Napoli. However, the team still managed to score three goals because Napoli's defense was weak. But today their opponent is a strong team like Juventus. Juventus's defense is very strong. We saw Juventus' strong defense in the previous season as well. But Juventus failed to compete for the title due to the weakness of their attacking players. But this season, Juventus coach Thiago Motta has strengthened the attacking side of his squad. And I would say Motta has managed to build a perfect squad this season. And this team has the ability to win the Serie A title.

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August 26, 2024, 08:43:06 PM
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Yes, I understand that, sir. Even I also have that thought. It's just that I want to give the new coach a chance even though I am also quite disappointed with the results shown at the start of this season. The problem is that there doesn't seem to be good harmonization between the players and coaches there. In pre-season AC Milan looked like they would be a good team. But when the season started it turned out they weren't as good as we thought. This is what makes me a little disappointed. I actually prefer Pioli's coaching style, but on the one hand I also want to see this team use a new coach. But if the results are bad then the previous coach would have been better. But I hope that in the next match Fonsesca can give better results by collecting full points of course.

In the friendly matches, we saw quite a good performance from AC Milan. I also expected AC Milan to compete for the title this season. But Milan's overall situation seems very weak at the moment to me.

AC Milan shared the points with Torino in the first match. I'm not surprised that Milan put in a bit of a poor performance in the first match. But I was very disappointed with Milan's performance in the second match. AC Milan lost 2-1 against a weak team like Parma. Milan tried to dominate the match but at the end of the day Milan team lost this match. Milan's defense has been weak this season.
Well, this is what makes fans quite disappointed. Because they seem to have been given great hope through good results in pre-season against strong teams and AC Milan continues to have good results. But it turns out that at the start of the season AC Milan immediately lost points. Well, it's normal for fans to be disappointed with them. Although that doesn't mean we don't understand that this team needs time to achieve better performance.

different from AC Milan. we can see that Juventus also started with a new coach but was still able to win matches at the start of this season. In the first week they won convincingly. And it looks like in the second week they will also win very convincingly too. Because currently Verona lost 0-3 to Juventus. And the game will end soon.

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August 26, 2024, 10:03:34 PM
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In the end, Juventus won the match 3-0. Hellas verona's players seemed very helpless to me today. Even if they can make several attacks, they cannot break Juventus's defense.

Hellas Verona players did not attack much in the first match against Napoli. However, the team still managed to score three goals because Napoli's defense was weak. But today their opponent is a strong team like Juventus. Juventus's defense is very strong. We saw Juventus' strong defense in the previous season as well. But Juventus failed to compete for the title due to the weakness of their attacking players. But this season, Juventus coach Thiago Motta has strengthened the attacking side of his squad. And I would say Motta has managed to build a perfect squad this season. And this team has the ability to win the Serie A title.
It seems Juventus is fully back on track with the appointment of Thiago Motta as their coach following the departure of Massimiliano Allegri who had a very turbulent stay at Juventus that is greeted with massive hard luck and frustrations. Even though Motta have only played two matches this season, their results shows so much hope. They have won all their matches and have not conceded a single goal, that shows something have changed with the team because if it were the recent Juventus under their previous manager, they easily concede goal against any average side. Defeating Hellas Verona 0-3 in their hone, a team that won Napoli 3-0, is show of strength and something commendable.

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August 26, 2024, 10:46:27 PM
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In the end, Juventus won the match 3-0. Hellas verona's players seemed very helpless to me today. Even if they can make several attacks, they cannot break Juventus's defense.

Hellas Verona players did not attack much in the first match against Napoli. However, the team still managed to score three goals because Napoli's defense was weak. But today their opponent is a strong team like Juventus. Juventus's defense is very strong. We saw Juventus' strong defense in the previous season as well. But Juventus failed to compete for the title due to the weakness of their attacking players. But this season, Juventus coach Thiago Motta has strengthened the attacking side of his squad. And I would say Motta has managed to build a perfect squad this season. And this team has the ability to win the Serie A title.
It seems Juventus is fully back on track with the appointment of Thiago Motta as their coach following the departure of Massimiliano Allegri who had a very turbulent stay at Juventus that is greeted with massive hard luck and frustrations. Even though Motta have only played two matches this season, their results shows so much hope. They have won all their matches and have not conceded a single goal, that shows something have changed with the team because if it were the recent Juventus under their previous manager, they easily concede goal against any average side. Defeating Hellas Verona 0-3 in their hone, a team that won Napoli 3-0, is show of strength and something commendable.

Juventus really changed a lot this season though I know the season is quite new to justify their performance but it's not all big teams that started this season very well so for Juventus to win their last two Serie A matches easily without conceding goals means that the new coach Thiago Motta is really doing a nice job for the club and the defense area of Juventus have been solidified which is why they haven't conceded any goals so they are not going to face too many challenges this season like they faced last season. Their performance tonight against Verona is really applaudable and if they continue in this energy, it will surely turn out well for them this season.

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August 26, 2024, 10:49:20 PM
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Atalanta lost away to Torino.Atalanta scored the first goal but conceded after 5 minutes.Torino started the 2nd half fast and scored the 2nd goal at the beginning of the second half to take the lead.The match ended with this score.Che Adams scored 1 goal and 1 assist to give Torino 3 points.
Fiorentina drew with Venezia at home.The new team of the league managed to get a draw against Fiorentina.Fiorentina should have won this match but they got their 2nd draw in the league.It is obvious that both teams got into positions but could not score.
Everybody is a king in his home; that is the case of Torino and Atalanta.
Last season, it was an even game because Torino defeated Atalanta at home, while Atalanta take revenge when Torino visited them and the score line was the same 3-0 for the both game. This season again, Atalanta has lost to Torino away from home, I will be expecting Atalanta to also win Torino whenever Torino visited them.

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