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June 01, 2022, 04:54:26 PM
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Well, the truth is that I think the same, the players that Munich has are of the first level, really at the moment I compare it with the Brazilian national team, all the players could play without a coach, for me Bayern Munich is one of the best teams that Europe has, I wouldn't doubt most players going out for the German national team.
Haaland's case is interesting, I think the one that City needed came to him, Pep Guardiola is sure to be the happiest of this new member, for Dortmund it is a great loss, in my case I would never have left him to go.
For Dortmund this is part of their strategy, they bring up young talented players and sell them to top clubs. You see, Dortmund played with Haaland in this season, but this didn’t affect anything, they didn’t become champions and didn’t achieve any outstanding results in Eurocups. Yes, can say that they needed more time, but it is obvious that this is a business for Dortmund, and they will continue to stick to their strategy, educate young talents.

You are right. This is the only business for Dortmund. They find young talent and make a lot of money selling them. The Dortmund team depends on a specific player. They do not have a stable squad. They relied on Haaland the previous season as well. However, Dortmund has no intention of winning the title. If the goal was to win the title, they would invest more money and strengthen the team. They are not doing it.
If Dortmund is targeting the Bundesliga title then of course Dortmund will not sell its players, because the key players who leave are talented young players. Of course, those are the long-term players it looks like for Dortmund to win the Bundesliga title if they keep their players. But what happens is that Dortmund always do the same thing when they have talented young players, when there is an offer from another team Dortmund will be willing to let him go even if the offer comes from Bayern Munich they will do it anyway.

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June 01, 2022, 05:19:55 PM
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If Dortmund is targeting the Bundesliga title then of course Dortmund will not sell its players, because the key players who leave are talented young players. Of course, those are the long-term players it looks like for Dortmund to win the Bundesliga title if they keep their players. But what happens is that Dortmund always do the same thing when they have talented young players, when there is an offer from another team Dortmund will be willing to let him go even if the offer comes from Bayern Munich they will do it anyway.

I agree with you. If Dortmund's goal was to win the title, they would never have sold their talented players. Almost every season we see Dortmund selling the most talented players on their team and making a lot of money. If they did not sell these talented players and would bring some talented players to the team by spending some money. Used to form a strong team. Then of course they could have fought for the title against Bayern Munich. But Dortmund has no such goal.

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June 01, 2022, 05:30:48 PM
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If Dortmund is targeting the Bundesliga title then of course Dortmund will not sell its players, because the key players who leave are talented young players. Of course, those are the long-term players it looks like for Dortmund to win the Bundesliga title if they keep their players. But what happens is that Dortmund always do the same thing when they have talented young players, when there is an offer from another team Dortmund will be willing to let him go even if the offer comes from Bayern Munich they will do it anyway.
Dortmund always target at Bundesliga title because in this league, they are one of best teams. In quality and in performance, in most of seasons last decade, they are the second or third best teams just behind Bayern Muchen.

The problems with Dortmund are their growth strategy and their transfer plan. Traditionally they want to buy young players, grow them up and sell at expensive price, then use such money to buy other young players. They have very talented scout teams but this growth and transfer strategies can not help them to win Bundesliga. Bayern simply is too strong and dominating in Bundesliga and Dortmund must keep all their best players and buy one or two star players in next season to compete with Bayern.

It does not happen in reality so they have to accept the fact that they will hardly to beat Bayern. They can make the competition looks interesting but in the end, they fail.

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June 01, 2022, 06:04:07 PM
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In the Bundesliga league, the runner-up in the standings is the champion, because the first one that has booked a seat is Bayern Munich, so teams other than Bayern every season only fight for the second, third and so on, the French league too.
hopefully with Erdin Terzic officially becoming the new coach of Borussia Dortmund for next season Dortmund can compete with Bayern Munich.
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In the Bundesliga league, the runner-up in the standings is the champion, because the first one that has booked a seat is Bayern Munich, so teams other than Bayern every season only fight for the second, third and so on, the French league too.
hopefully with Erdin Terzic officially becoming the new coach of Borussia Dortmund for next season Dortmund can compete with Bayern Munich.
sounds funny but i really feel like this has a point lol.
even if you look at over the past decade the most frequently changing and competing quite competitively here is only from 2nd position etc.
On the other hand, Bayern's dominance is very strong but maybe they will now be a little weaker considering their current striker will leave and not only Lewandowski but it is reported that Gnabry has still not found an agreement on his new contract.

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June 01, 2022, 08:34:01 PM
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In the Bundesliga league, the runner-up in the standings is the champion, because the first one that has booked a seat is Bayern Munich, so teams other than Bayern every season only fight for the second, third and so on, the French league too.
hopefully with Erdin Terzic officially becoming the new coach of Borussia Dortmund for next season Dortmund can compete with Bayern Munich.

It is really a funny thing but it is a different perspective actually. Because as you said, Bayern Munich have already reserved the first position in the standings for even many more years.  Grin  There is no team to finish this huge dominance yet therefore this won't change easily. Dortmund are the closest team in strength to keep up with Bayern Munich actually but even they can't do anything against them. Then what team can we believe in? Dortmund lost Haaland too now and they are even weaker. They need to work on their defense first and then maybe they could change something.

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June 01, 2022, 08:49:44 PM
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In principle, it makes little difference who the coach of Bayern Munich is. When you have a team like Bayern, you always become champions. I think you would still be champion even without a trainer. The difference with the numbers 2 and below is huge. Bayern is also the only team that really belongs to the big teams in Europe. Dortmund must make their way back into the competition. And catch the departure of Haaland.
Well, the truth is that I think the same, the players that Munich has are of the first level, really at the moment I compare it with the Brazilian national team, all the players could play without a coach, for me Bayern Munich is one of the best teams that Europe has, I wouldn't doubt most players going out for the German national team.

Haaland's case is interesting, I think the one that City needed came to him, Pep Guardiola is sure to be the happiest of this new member, for Dortmund it is a great loss, in my case I would never have left him to go.
They couldn't stop it, they had a "release clause" in the contract, which meant that if 75 million was paid, then Dortmund had no other option to accept the offer, they didn't technically accepted it, they just let it be, because they had to.

This works out amazingly well for Bayern as well, even without doing anything, they managed to get a bit better than everyone else. They had a competitor that played with a very well striker, and City just destroyed that opponent for them. Dortmund would still be good of course but not as good, they could use that 75 million to buy some other players, but those players won't be as good as Haaland for sure.
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June 01, 2022, 10:51:00 PM
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At the moment, Lewandowski is not going anywhere. His words are only words until there is no club ready to pay the required amount for him. I doubt that the bosses of Bavaria are such naive simpletons as to let him go to their rival (Barcelona) for token money based only on his desire to leave. Yesterday Kahn already spoke about the behavior of Lewandowski and today there is still complete silence on this topic, apparently negotiations are ongoing.
Lewandowski want to leave and he opens to stay in Bayern but he want a good salary and a long contract. Bayern so far does not show any signal that they will accept requirement of Lewandowski. Rumor on the news that Sadio Mane wants to leave Liverpool after 6 years in Merseyside and his wanted destination is Bayern.

I think Mane is a good replacement for Lewandowski because he has better connection with other players. He has good speed that is good and match with Bayern playing pace. In addition, Mane can score many goals too.

Mbappe said that playing at Real Madrid was a childhood dream for him and we all know where he is now (and how much money he could get in order to be "persuaded" to stay at PSG  Grin ), so I would not pay special attention to the words - it's all part of the bargaining. At the moment, Lewandowski must either work for a year in Bavaria or pay a penalty for breaking the contract, the rest does not matter.
By the way, I like how Bayern are trying to get 40+ million for Lewandowski and buy Mane for 25  Grin

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June 01, 2022, 10:57:39 PM
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As long as Bayern Munich give what Lewandowski wants, I don't think that Lewandowski will even think of leaving the team this summer. He is having some contract issues with Bayern Munich now and it is not known whether they are close to reaching an agreement or else. Teams like Barcelona must be waiting for this contract negotations to finish before making an offer for him. As for my opinion, I don't have any problem on watching him in the Bundesliga now. It is a good privilege but I wouldn't be unwilling to watch him in another big league as well.

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June 01, 2022, 11:00:38 PM
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Mbappe said that playing at Real Madrid was a childhood dream for him and we all know where he is now (and how much money he could get in order to be "persuaded" to stay at PSG  Grin ), so I would not pay special attention to the words - it's all part of the bargaining.
And the money is the adulthood dream of everybody Tongue
I like how he said that money isn't everything and not the main reason to stay!

At the moment, Lewandowski must either work for a year in Bavaria or pay a penalty for breaking the contract, the rest does not matter.
By the way, I like how Bayern are trying to get 40+ million for Lewandowski and buy Mane for 25  Grin
That would be a great deal and I am expecting it to happen from weeks. Lewandowski might keep his form for 2-3 years max but Mane is younger and he can keep good performance for years and that's what Bayern is looking for to guarantee its dominance in the league.

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That would be a great deal and I am expecting it to happen from weeks. Lewandowski might keep his form for 2-3 years max but Mane is younger and he can keep good performance for years and that's what Bayern is looking for to guarantee its dominance in the league.
Exactly ,and i guess we will see it happen that they give Lewandowski away and get Mane.
The problem for Barcelona is that they maybe not can afford Lewandowski if they keep Frenkie de Jong.
In my opinion the whole Lewandowski thing will be not get to an good end i guess.

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June 02, 2022, 12:23:30 AM
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I am happy that Haaland is gone, all the talking about switching teams brings distraction, and to be honest he missed so many games due to being injured all the time, no wonder they have been inconsistent.
Dortmund now is a healthy club moneywise and of course they can't pay what all those clubs owned by rich Arabs or Russians can pay. All those wannabe stars like Haaland and co just see the money and want to go to a big team asap. Also Dortmund doesnt have a billion in debt like some teams from Spain. If uefa would actually enforce financial fairplay the champions league would probably see Dortmund and Bayern in the semis quite often.
Why be happy that he is gone? He adds quality to the league no matter how long he is injured for. Now we won't have as many goals in the league because we have lost one of the greatest scorers in the league history. Anyone that says they won't miss him or glad they are gone must be a rival fan Cheesy Haaland was great to watch and I will miss him and I am sure the Bundesliga will miss him.

The problem with Haaland is does get injured but that might be a temporary thing with better medical care or better rotation he might be fit more often. I think Haaland is the type of player that you need to manage closely. He is like Gotze or Hazard both great players but they are injury prone. Gotze was managed well at Bayern Munich and started to get a good sequence of games together that proves that it can be done even if the player is injury prone.

He was a big part of Dortmund, he also had a good contribution to the success of Dortmund. And there is no reason why any Dortmund fan should be happy because of his departure. The problem is with Dortmund, not him. I agree that he was injured for a long time but this is not the only case for Dortmund when they had to sell their best player. But I have to say one thing which is Haaland being injury prone and moving to English Premier League is probably not the best decision in my opinion.

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At the moment, Lewandowski is not going anywhere. His words are only words until there is no club ready to pay the required amount for him. I doubt that the bosses of Bavaria are such naive simpletons as to let him go to their rival (Barcelona) for token money based only on his desire to leave. Yesterday Kahn already spoke about the behavior of Lewandowski and today there is still complete silence on this topic, apparently negotiations are ongoing.

You might be right about it, even though Robert Lewandowski has said something like that, it will not be in fruition if the other end will not solidify their remarks, and just in, out of the three teams including the Bayern Munich that would want Robert Lewandowski to sign on their contract Barcelona was out of the race out of the financial problem, and they can not seems to give what Robert Lewandowski is worth, and if the other clubs would also fall out because of certain financial problems then Bayern Munich will still have Robert Lewandowski this season,

In my opinion, if Barcelona is out in taking Robert Lewandowski there are still other teams that want him on board, and those teams were Chelsea, Liverpool, and the one that Erling Haaland had recently transferred to Manchester City those teams that said was looking for attacking options and if Manchester City would get Lewandowski, it is really a coincidence that Erling Haaland and Robert Lewandowski will team up on Man City.
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That would be a great deal and I am expecting it to happen from weeks. Lewandowski might keep his form for 2-3 years max but Mane is younger and he can keep good performance for years and that's what Bayern is looking for to guarantee its dominance in the league.
Exactly ,and i guess we will see it happen that they give Lewandowski away and get Mane.
The problem for Barcelona is that they maybe not can afford Lewandowski if they keep Frenkie de Jong.
In my opinion the whole Lewandowski thing will be not get to an good end i guess.
regardless of what Barcelona have to do to get Lewandowski from Bayern, I think it will be a bit of an advantage for Bayern because now Lewandowski is 34 years old which means he probably only has 2-3 years left to be able to give his best performance and if Lewandowski leaves it can If replaced by Sadio Mane then Bayern will get a very big advantage in the long term.

I think with what Lewandowski has done in the Bundesliga it is only right that he looks for adventure in another league. he has given a lot of great things while playing in the Bundesliga.

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That would be a great deal and I am expecting it to happen from weeks. Lewandowski might keep his form for 2-3 years max but Mane is younger and he can keep good performance for years and that's what Bayern is looking for to guarantee its dominance in the league.
Exactly ,and i guess we will see it happen that they give Lewandowski away and get Mane.
The problem for Barcelona is that they maybe not can afford Lewandowski if they keep Frenkie de Jong.
In my opinion the whole Lewandowski thing will be not get to an good end i guess.
regardless of what Barcelona have to do to get Lewandowski from Bayern, I think it will be a bit of an advantage for Bayern because now Lewandowski is 34 years old which means he probably only has 2-3 years left to be able to give his best performance and if Lewandowski leaves it can If replaced by Sadio Mane then Bayern will get a very big advantage in the long term.

I think with what Lewandowski has done in the Bundesliga it is only right that he looks for adventure in another league. he has given a lot of great things while playing in the Bundesliga.
I feel the EPL will be too tough a competition for Lewandowski, because the gameplay in the EPL is tougher so with his old age and moreover Lewandowski is a striker I don't see a match if Lewandowski goes to the EPL. But considering that Barcelona are not in a good financial position, then it might be an obstacle and it will be difficult for Barcelona to get Lewandowski even though Lewandowski basically wants him. Not sure if Lewandowski will leave or not, because if Lewandowski stays at Bayern Munich for at least one more season then Lewandowski will become a free agent, but if Lewandowski chooses to leave in the near future then of course it will provide income for Bayern Munich.

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Hertha BSC has a new coach. Sandro Schwarz. At last he was the coach of Dynamo Moscow, before that at Mainz. His contract runs until 2024.

Nice Fact: At the start of the 2019 season the DFB introduced the rule that coaches can also receive a yellow-red card and would be suspended for one match. At matchday 6 Sandro Schwaz received the first yellow-red card in the game between Mainz and Wolfsburg.

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June 02, 2022, 12:07:40 PM
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regardless of what Barcelona have to do to get Lewandowski from Bayern, I think it will be a bit of an advantage for Bayern because now Lewandowski is 34 years old which means he probably only has 2-3 years left to be able to give his best performance and if Lewandowski leaves it can If replaced by Sadio Mane then Bayern will get a very big advantage in the long term.

I think with what Lewandowski has done in the Bundesliga it is only right that he looks for adventure in another league. he has given a lot of great things while playing in the Bundesliga.
The problem is that Mane won't necessarily have the right chemistry with the rest of his teammates like Lewa did there.
on the other hand it is still undecided whether Mane will really go to them or not.
Losing Lewa is a pretty heavy loss in my opinion because at least with the loss of these players, it is certain that their goal productivity will be slightly disturbed later

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June 02, 2022, 12:47:23 PM
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As long as Bayern Munich give what Lewandowski wants, I don't think that Lewandowski will even think of leaving the team this summer. He is having some contract issues with Bayern Munich now and it is not known whether they are close to reaching an agreement or else. Teams like Barcelona must be waiting for this contract negotations to finish before making an offer for him. As for my opinion, I don't have any problem on watching him in the Bundesliga now. It is a good privilege but I wouldn't be unwilling to watch him in another big league as well.
Bayern actually will give him what he wants even they already spoke to him and offering new contract but Lewandowski personally refuse it and at the press conference he was giving statement there is no possibility to him remain in Bayern even he said the decision is final that this summer he will leave the team and his era in Bayern will ended this year but his focus currently is for Poland which playing at Nations League and he said too his future will be decided after this tournament

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June 02, 2022, 02:35:55 PM
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Exactly ,and i guess we will see it happen that they give Lewandowski away and get Mane.
The problem for Barcelona is that they maybe not can afford Lewandowski if they keep Frenkie de Jong.
In my opinion the whole Lewandowski thing will be not get to an good end i guess.
if lewandowski can be persuaded and kept at bayern then the duet mane and lewandowski will be great thing...

i read on the news that mueller is struggling to persuade lewandowski to stay at bayern because the two of them are already very well matched on the pitch. currently lewandowski is 34 years old, i think it would be wise if he retires at bayern (the team he has been with for a long time) instead of retiring at barca.



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June 02, 2022, 03:16:18 PM
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Dortmund's goal has never been to win a Bundesliga title. They make talented star players and make money by selling them. This is their business.  By selling Haaland, I don't think Dortmund will suffer a loss. Since they have no hope of winning the title, being in the top 4 of the points table is enough for them. And in addition to Haaland there are enough talented players in their squad.

I can agree with that actually. Because if Dortmund had really wanted to win the title, they would have prepared themselves in some way to be able to achieve it. For example, they aren't still finding a solution for their defense problem. It is like an open wound for them for a very long time. The last season in the Bundesliga was like a nightmare for them in terms of their defense. They were conceding very simple goals from even unexpected teams. They lost so many points just because of that. We will see if they will take an action focused on this problem this summer.
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