Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[giammangiato]

Bayern Munich mostly win Bundesliga title very early already while Dortmund already get a very solid second position and it's really small chance of losing a position in top four with Dortmund. There are competitions among some clubs for two other positions in top four, from Hoffeinhem, Stuttgart, Leipzig and Leverkusen with biggest disadvantage belongs to Leverkusen as they have less points, and have 5 points less than Hoffeinhem and Stuttgart. With only 8 matches left till the season ending, Leverkusen will need to get almost perfect results in remaining matches while need to be supported by bad results of Hoffeinhem, Stuttgart and Leipzig.

Unfortunately or fortunately (for the fans) the numbers speak clearly and seem to converge on this possible result.
However, the other positions could change further. I don't think the other competing teams that have reached this point in the championship can shake it up so much that they significantly overturn the scores and positions. I see a fairly stagnant situation, which I don't really like, because at the game level it's not exciting and at the betting level it doesn't even make you want to place them.

[silpersurfer]

Bayern Munich's advantage is that if/when they win Bundesliga early, that means they are going to be able to focus on UCL a lot better. Already they are very much ahead, so they could have a period where they play the young players, and bench players.

So if they do not play any of their normal good players, aside from maybe a few, they could do a fine job enough to win the league. You can take out their best eleven from them today and what remains could still win the league after this situation. Not normally, not like whole season, but they are already ahead so it should be possible for them to manage to do this now. It is not that hard and UCL is a lot more important and we could see them do a fine job one way or another if they work hard enough.

You are right that Bayern Munich's position is now very safe in the bundes league table because they have a very bearish difference from their competitors, namely Dortmund who are in second place, they will be more calm to focus on the champions league and maximize their full strength there.

This is the time for Bayern Munich to rotate their players, giving flight hours for young players and reserves, being one form of training teamwork and multiplying their mentality of playing, the current advantage is an advantage for Munich for the next season, or maybe they are still cautious? I think that there is no need to be afraid and can mix the core players with the reserve players they have so that their performance can be balanced.

[Callido]

This is the true fact!! Honestly speaking aside from Bayern Munich, almost all teams in the Bundesliga have just been quite inconsistent this season. Leipzig and Stuttgart are good teams, but their performances keep going up and down. As of right now the real battle is for the fourth position because that Champions League spot is very important. Leipzig, Stuttgart and maybe Leverkusen will keep fighting for that place until the end of the season. It will definitely be an interesting race to watch

At some point in the season, Bayern Munich also were a little inconsistent which they dropped points where mattered most. The third space is also at risk, Hoffenheim are distracted and have lost more than five points in their last five games, staying top three comes with deep sacrifice, if they are not prepared, another team will take over.

[Razmirraz]

Bayern Munich drew and Dortmund won. Now the gap is 9 points. Is that enough to make us excited about the title competition?

I assume no, not at all!    8 weeks to go... Dortmund already missed that train when they lost to Bayern Munich home recently.

Nine points isn't a huge difference. This season Bayern has already dropped points (draws and even a loss) against very weak opponents, so it wouldn't be impossible for that to happen again. If we were talking about an 18-point gap, then I wouldn't have a problem saying Bayern are champions. But nine points isn't a sure thing, especially when you see in other leagues where good teams had a nine-point lead in the final rounds and still didn't become champions. I know the Bundesliga is dominated by Bayern, but the fact that Bayern drops points against weak opponents is a big problem.

Mathematically, a 9 point gap isn't a huge difference, but Bayern Munich doesn't have a competitive edge because Dortmund is the only team closest to them and their performance isn't very consistent. Although Bayern Munich lost to Augsburg and drew in several matches, including the recent match against Leverkusen, their performance is much better than their competitors, who have dropped points too easily than them.
Bayern Munich is not yet confirmed as the Bundesliga champion, but judging by the quality of the team, it is very likely that they will win the trophy again this season. Kompany will not make any more mistakes in the next few matches that will put his team's position in jeopardy, they only need to win the remaining 6 matches to secure the trophy before the final match is played, I think it will not be difficult for them to do so considering the strength of the opponents they will face.

[jaberwock]

Bayern Munich is one thing, but I feel like Dortmunds biggest mistake was not using the money they made a while back properly. They did build a team that reaches second place in Bundesliga, which is great and all.

But they did not build a team that could win anything, with a club that was so good that reached finals of UCL and they played well and made hundreds of millions of euro in profit from the sales, they did not use that money to get players that were great. This is why I highly doubt that it would be good enough, it should be something that would take a bit longer now because of it.

[Merit.s]

Bayern Munich is one thing, but I feel like Dortmunds biggest mistake was not using the money they made a while back properly. They did build a team that reaches second place i
n Bundesliga, which is great and all.

But they did not build a team that could win anything, with a club that was so good that reached finals of UCL and they played well and made hundreds of millions of euro in profit from the sales, they did not use that money to get players that were great. This is why I highly doubt that it would be good enough, it should be something that would take a bit longer now because of it.

The only difference between a big team and others is that, a big team maintains the standard of the club with quality players. If the best player is leaving a player similar in performance to him will be bought to replace him in order to maintain the quality of the club. This is why you see them winning trophies but the other clubs will sell their best and sign a player with less experience. The only problem that affects a big club is when they hire the wrong coach or lot of injured players.

[Cryptoprincess101]

Bayern Munich mostly win Bundesliga title very early already while Dortmund already get a very solid second position and it's really small chance of losing a position in top four with Dortmund. There are competitions among some clubs for two other positions in top four, from Hoffeinhem, Stuttgart, Leipzig and Leverkusen with biggest disadvantage belongs to Leverkusen as they have less points, and have 5 points less than Hoffeinhem and Stuttgart. With only 8 matches left till the season ending, Leverkusen will need to get almost perfect results in remaining matches while need to be supported by bad results of Hoffeinhem, Stuttgart and Leipzig.

I don't know why you think that Bayern Leverkusen has a disadvantage of likely not finishing in the top 4. Bayern Leverkusen is just 5 points from the teams in the 3rd and 4th position namely, VfB Stuttgart and Hoffenheim which is about 2 wins from Bayern Leverkusen and 2 losses from either of Stuttgart or Hoffenheim will qualify Bayern Leverkusen in the top 4, though it will also be determined if Leipzig lose some points as well so i think it's not that difficult for Leverkusen because 8 matches is more than enough for the table to take a new turn.
     Stuttgart is most likely to make the top 4 but i wouldn't say the same for Leipzig and Hoffenheim because they are not consistent and for the fact that Hoffenheim couldn't win a relegation team like Wolfsburg have given me enough conviction that they won't finish in the top 4 so there is still possibility of Leverkusen making it to the 4th position and qualify for the Champions League next season.

[mv1986]

At some point in the season, Bayern Munich also were a little inconsistent which they dropped points where mattered most. The third space is also at risk, Hoffenheim are distracted and have lost more than five points in their last five games, staying top three comes with deep sacrifice, if they are not prepared, another team will take over.

In sports, how do you define consistency? I know in mathematical or statistical terms, consistency can be described as 0%-100%. In sports I think it is bullshit to talk about an inconsistency concerning Bayern. A 100% win rate has never been reached in any of the European leagues ever, correct me if I am wrong. And if they finish the season with another six wins and two draws, I can't really see any inconsistency.

You said they dropped points where it mattered the most. I have absolutely no clue what you are referring to and whether you mean that their dominance was ever at risk this season. It wasn't. Never. And when dominance is never at risk, I'd tend to argue that this can be described as consistency. It is about affordable point losses. Their loss against Augsburg was irrelevant and so was their draw against Hamburg.

[RockBell]

You are right that Bayern Munich's position is now very safe in the bundes league table because they have a very bearish difference from their competitors, namely Dortmund who are in second place, they will be more calm to focus on the champions league and maximize their full strength there.

And with the point that bayern have gathered It will be difficult for anyone to catch up with them and this is why automatically they have already won the league and don't see any other thing that will change that because even from the point we already and have concluded that there is no one that is going to chance bayern Munich for sure and we did not even see Dortmund doing the right thing by improving because Dortmund have been performing really poorly and leverkusen are trying to do better because even the last game bayern played against them they played draw and leverkusen as now become tougher.

This is the time for Bayern Munich to rotate their players, giving flight hours for young players and reserves, being one form of training teamwork and multiplying their mentality of playing, the current advantage is an advantage for Munich for the next season, or maybe they are still cautious? I think that there is no need to be afraid and can mix the core players with the reserve players they have so that their performance can be balanced.

And even if they don't rotate there players they have everything it take for them to still continue winning or they have even won already, and the way they prepared there mentality even before anything and even next season it looks like Bayern Munich still have a lot of energy for next season so because the dominating energy is becoming stronger and stronger every time, and even any club do not improve there play get then it is going to be hard for them to be able to catch with Bayern Munich even at that.

[SmartCharpa]

Bayern Munich drew and Dortmund won. Now the gap is 9 points. Is that enough to make us excited about the title competition?

I assume no, not at all!    8 weeks to go... Dortmund already missed that train when they lost to Bayern Munich home recently.

Dortmund missed the opportunity they had from the beginning of the season, they had the chances to reduce the point different from Bayern Munich, but they were not serious with their games, they dropped some points in a games we expected them to win easily. Even though they didn’t lose the recent game against Bayern Munich, I’m not sure Dortmund will be able to stop them from winning the title this season, because they are well prepared for this season.

I also believe in that. Bayern Munich could have won this game without a red card. Even with 9 players in the last minutes they still didn't concede. There was a goal disallowed by VAR for Leverkusen though.

I agree with you, Bayern Munich could have won the match when they were down to 10 men from the first half. Despite with the red card, Bayern Munich was dominating the game, until Diaz was sent off after he scored the equalizing goal. I thought Bayern Munich would lose the game after two players were sent off, but they gave their best to secured the one point away from home.

[Btcdeybodi]

At some point in the season, Bayern Munich also were a little inconsistent which they dropped points where mattered most. The third space is also at risk, Hoffenheim are distracted and have lost more than five points in their last five games, staying top three comes with deep sacrifice, if they are not prepared, another team will take over.

In sports, how do you define consistency? I know in mathematical or statistical terms, consistency can be described as 0%-100%. In sports I think it is bullshit to talk about an inconsistency concerning Bayern. A 100% win rate has never been reached in any of the European leagues ever, correct me if I am wrong. And if they finish the season with another six wins and two draws, I can't really see any inconsistency.

You said they dropped points where it mattered the most. I have absolutely no clue what you are referring to and whether you mean that their dominance was ever at risk this season. It wasn't. Never. And when dominance is never at risk, I'd tend to argue that this can be described as consistency. It is about affordable point losses. Their loss against Augsburg was irrelevant and so was their draw against Hamburg.

I am surprised that @Callido said that Bayern Munich was inconsistent at a point in the season because i have tried to search the area where the inconsistency came from but couldn't find anywhere that they flopped a bit bad this season. From the statistics of Bayern Munich this season, they only lost one match in the Bundesliga which was against Augsburg and played draw in 4 games, that is not enough to say that they were inconsistent at a point. They have never even played any consecutive draw this season, maybe we could have said they were inconsistent sometime along the season if they had lost consecutive matches or played consecutive draw matches. They were even supposed to lose their last match against Bayern Leverkusen because they encountered a challenge of a double red card which reduced them to 9 men but they still maneuver and played draw so it is to show how formidable they have been this season and no any form of inconsistency. Should we even talk about their performance in the Champions League where they won 8 out of 9 matches they have played so far? this team is exceptional.

[mv1986]

At some point in the season, Bayern Munich also were a little inconsistent which they dropped points where mattered most. The third space is also at risk, Hoffenheim are distracted and have lost more than five points in their last five games, staying top three comes with deep sacrifice, if they are not prepared, another team will take over.

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I am surprised that @Callido said that Bayern Munich was inconsistent at a point in the season because i have tried to search the area where the inconsistency came from but couldn't find anywhere that they flopped a bit bad this season. From the statistics of Bayern Munich this season, they only lost one match in the Bundesliga which was against Augsburg and played draw in 4 games, that is not enough to say that they were inconsistent at a point. They have never even played any consecutive draw this season, maybe we could have said they were inconsistent sometime along the season if they had lost consecutive matches or played consecutive draw matches. They were even supposed to lose their last match against Bayern Leverkusen because they encountered a challenge of a double red card which reduced them to 9 men but they still maneuver and played draw so it is to show how formidable they have been this season and no any form of inconsistency. Should we even talk about their performance in the Champions League where they won 8 out of 9 matches they have played so far? this team is exceptional.

As I said, he is probably referring to those to consecutive games they didn't win. The game against Augsburg, which they lost in Munich and then the game against Hamburg, which ended 2-2. That was the only time they didn't win for two consecutive games. In those four games before that, Bayern scored 20-3 goals and won 12 points. That's why they can afford these little hiccups, it doesn't matter as it doesn't change anything. I think an inconsistency would be present if they had way more losses than just one. If they can't have an extended streak without losing, it can be called inconsistent. Whenever the game was important, Bayern delivered their best. That is what I think can be called consistency and in the end nobody cares whether they end the season with 91 points or 85 points.

Their winning % of all games is over 80%. In 19/20 seasons that should be the overall win of the Bundesliga.

[$weetne$$]

At some point in the season, Bayern Munich also were a little inconsistent which they dropped points where mattered most. The third space is also at risk, Hoffenheim are distracted and have lost more than five points in their last five games, staying top three comes with deep sacrifice, if they are not prepared, another team will take over.

Those periods they lost some point were not as a result of inconsistency but some normal draw back every other big team likely does have mid season, it is mostly due to fatigue, injuries or priorities at the time. If it were to be inconsistency then I doubt they would have been up by this time with the point difference they have currently against the second position team.

[Xyloo]

At some point in the season, Bayern Munich also were a little inconsistent which they dropped points where mattered most. The third space is also at risk, Hoffenheim are distracted and have lost more than five points in their last five games, staying top three comes with deep sacrifice, if they are not prepared, another team will take over.

Those periods they lost some point were not as a result of inconsistency but some normal draw back every other big team likely does have mid season, it is mostly due to fatigue, injuries or priorities at the time. If it were to be inconsistency then I doubt they would have been up by this time with the point difference they have currently against the second position team.

Of course, points can be dropped; no team is perfect. Even Bayern Munich can lose points in some matches. We know Bayern Munich plays brilliantly, and that's what matters. I think they will continue to play very well in the coming years because their squad is young and has high potential. They can win the Champions League this year.

[Nheer]

At some point in the season, Bayern Munich also were a little inconsistent which they dropped points where mattered most. The third space is also at risk, Hoffenheim are distracted and have lost more than five points in their last five games, staying top three comes with deep sacrifice, if they are not prepared, another team will take over.

It's normal for a team to lose a few games. Even the best teams in Europe with the best form lose games as well but that doesn't mean they are inconsistent. Consistency doesn't mean you must win all games you play but rather it means you should have a high percentage of wins compared to losses. They lost a few games but I won't call it inconsistency, and I don't think it was matches that mattered because till now they still remain at the top of the league with almost 10 points ahead of the second place Dortmund.

As for Hoffenheim I would say you're right staying top 3 means requires a lot of a lot of efforts and dedication because the challenge there is usually more than that of title race as teams will want to qualify for European competition.

[Mate2237]

The top four title race is one that is always tough in any league, for a  team to finish up in the top four spot such a team must show a high level of competition and consistency because qualifying for the top four is not a easy task. Hoffenheim this season in the bundesliga has shown a level of competition that is why they are up there with the big boy's , Hoffenheim is third with fifty points this shows that they mean business and this achievement is not a fluck but, can be only be gotten through hardwork and consistency.


This season am very impressed with the likes of Hoffenheim and Stugart who were able to step up to the occasion when the bige teams like Leipzig, Leverkusen and Frankfurt did not live up to expectations. These teams been in the top four shows that they really means business this season. I just hope that these two teams sustain the momentum to the end of the season so that, they can qualify for the champions League come next season.

[Ndabagi01]

Bayern Munich mostly win Bundesliga title very early already while Dortmund already get a very solid second position and it's really small chance of losing a position in top four with Dortmund. There are competitions among some clubs for two other positions in top four, from Hoffeinhem, Stuttgart, Leipzig and Leverkusen with biggest disadvantage belongs to Leverkusen as they have less points, and have 5 points less than Hoffeinhem and Stuttgart. With only 8 matches left till the season ending, Leverkusen will need to get almost perfect results in remaining matches while need to be supported by bad results of Hoffeinhem, Stuttgart and Leipzig.

Teams in the Bundesliga don’t seems to wanted their times fighting for the Bundesliga title anymore once Bayern Munich has taken the major lead, their focus just changes and they now fight for the second to fourth position in the table in order to get to qualify for the champions league the following season. I feel these teams have already given up hope that they can’t defeat Bayern Munich for the title, so they’ll just fight for what they can and allow the rest to be. Bayern Munich and Dortmund have already taken the first and second positions respectively, let’s watch and see the remaining two teams that’ll fit in the remaining two spots for the champions league title next season.

This season am very impressed with the likes of Hoffenheim and Stugart who were able to step up to the occasion when the bige teams like Leipzig, Leverkusen and Frankfurt did not live up to expectations. These teams been in the top four shows that they really means business this season. I just hope that these two teams sustain the momentum to the end of the season so that, they can qualify for the champions League come next season.

Qualifying for the champions league next season is like winning the Bundesliga trophy for these teams. They’ve really come a long way to have been able to maintain these positions on the table. They know that the first position is out of reach for them, so playing in the champions league will be a great deal for them and one that will be seen as a big record to the team. I’m watching out on them to see how consistent they can get along the line, for the rest of the season.

[pawel7777]

Before that game, Leverkusen would probably be satisfied with perpspective of drawing against Bayern, but I don't think they were happy when the ref made a final whistle.
Leverkusen started off really well, bagging one in very early, in the 6th minute. Later in the 1st half Bayern got crippled by a red card for Jackson and it looked like the 2nd half would belong to Leverkusen, but that's not quite how things unfolded.
It was a pretty crazy game, with 4 disallowed goals and two red cards. Leverkusen looked decent, but their defense was getting really clumsy at times.

In another game, Stuttgart capitalised on home advantage as they won against Leipzig 1-0. A modest but important win that will help them remain in the top 4.