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September 06, 2015, 04:50:14 PM
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Gambling can be addictive like alcohol  but it should't be wrong to gamble $10 once in a while. The best and safest way to gamble is to only bet as much as you can afford and always play once in a while.

Exactly! But this is really hard to apply in real life if you just started to gamble..

First time:
You win/loose $10 (Okay! I must only gamble what i can afford to loose)

Second time:
You lost $10 (Okay! I lost this time... should i gamble $10 more to recover what i just lost? Lets see)

After gambling:
You win $10 (Wow! I just recovered what i lost plus i have a $10 profit! This is fun!)

After that:
You loose everything! (Shit! Why did i start gambling? :/)

This is the short version of every gambler's story! You were warned Smiley

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September 06, 2015, 04:59:24 PM
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hello everyone.
i want to know what do you think about gambling bitcoin.. Does Beneficial or more losses?
Share your story here guys!  Grin Grin Grin

gambling..well, this really depends.

generally is imho fine to play for money. somebody betting horses, cockfighting or sport matches, somebody playing poker, pool or darts..and somebody playing dice for bitcoin. it is same..until it is for excitement and fun and not for profit and cover loss.

sadly, human nature contains greed and some of us don't know when to stop. money are not on trees but not everybody around is smart enough to realize it. guess why those gambling wrecks are usually handled as stupids even before they started..
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September 06, 2015, 05:09:14 PM
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Gambling can be addictive like alcohol  but it should't be wrong to gamble $10 once in a while. The best and safest way to gamble is to only bet as much as you can afford and always play once in a while.

Exactly! But this is really hard to apply in real life if you just started to gamble..

First time:
You win/loose $10 (Okay! I must only gamble what i can afford to loose)

Second time:
You lost $10 (Okay! I lost this time... should i gamble $10 more to recover what i just lost? Lets see)

After gambling:
You win $10 (Wow! I just recovered what i lost plus i have a $10 profit! This is fun!)

After that:
You loose everything! (Shit! Why did i start gambling? :/)

This is the short version of every gambler's story! You were warned Smiley
So true that can't say contrarily because this happens to most of the people when they gamble.Few people lose at first hand and other see this happening what you explained with full detail.You just can not control when you begin to lose you place even more bigger bets to recover you tiny losses just on hope next bet will be winning one and in the end happens what you told already.

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September 06, 2015, 05:36:43 PM
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It's not wrong...whether it's a good idea depends, and no, it's not inherently the profitable thing to do as gambling in 99% of cases has a negative expected value (except, for instance, if you play odds). But it's not morally wrong, unless you start committing crimes to feed an addiction for it.
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September 07, 2015, 09:14:24 PM
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Gambling can be addictive like alcohol  but it should't be wrong to gamble $10 once in a while. The best and safest way to gamble is to only bet as much as you can afford and always play once in a while.

Exactly! But this is really hard to apply in real life if you just started to gamble..

First time:
You win/loose $10 (Okay! I must only gamble what i can afford to loose)

Second time:
You lost $10 (Okay! I lost this time... should i gamble $10 more to recover what i just lost? Lets see)

After gambling:
You win $10 (Wow! I just recovered what i lost plus i have a $10 profit! This is fun!)

After that:
You loose everything! (Shit! Why did i start gambling? :/)

This is the short version of every gambler's story! You were warned Smiley

this happens always at forex and others places we got the win and think i can get more lets do it all in soo all loss.
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September 08, 2015, 02:57:32 AM
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Gambling can be addictive like alcohol  but it should't be wrong to gamble $10 once in a while. The best and safest way to gamble is to only bet as much as you can afford and always play once in a while.

Exactly! But this is really hard to apply in real life if you just started to gamble..

First time:
You win/loose $10 (Okay! I must only gamble what i can afford to loose)

Second time:
You lost $10 (Okay! I lost this time... should i gamble $10 more to recover what i just lost? Lets see)

After gambling:
You win $10 (Wow! I just recovered what i lost plus i have a $10 profit! This is fun!)

After that:
You loose everything! (Shit! Why did i start gambling? :/)

This is the short version of every gambler's story! You were warned Smiley
haha that's a reality in life when you lose in gambling, you will say everything but when you when win you feel like the luckiest in this world

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September 08, 2015, 03:28:18 AM
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OP: I grew up in Las Vegas. I also own a casino. And I like to gamble.

So there are three questions here.
(1). Is it wrong to gamble your own money? Of course not. But it's stupid to gamble if you can't afford to lose what you started with. If you don't care about losing $100, then go and gamble it. If you win $1000, you'll be happy. If you lose the original money, you won't care.

My advice in this situation is that if you double or triple whatever you were comfortable starting with, you should leave the casino immediately.

(2). Is it wrong to gamble with your family's money? Yes.

(3). Is it wrong to operate a casino? No - as long as you are ethical about whose money you take. I would take the $100 from the player in example #1, because I am risking much more than that. I would NOT take $100 from player #2 because I don't have any interest in taking money from someone's family.

There is another question. What is your definition of "wrong"? If you are not able to think for yourself and you just do whatever the bible or the quran tells you, then almost everything is "wrong". If you consider what is good for you and what is good for your family, you should be able to make decisions for yourself like a big boy.

So if you want to put on your big boy pants, you should be able to decide from one situation to another what is right or wrong for you.

Stop trying to judge other people and their actions. You don't even know what you want for yourself and you are in no position to decide if something which may be wrong for you is right for others. You don't know anything. You are not better than anyone. Just decide what you want to do. And when you make stupid mistakes, learn from those mistakes, but don't imagine that you are better than other people just because you learned something.

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September 08, 2015, 03:45:34 AM
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Gambling can be addictive like alcohol  but it should't be wrong to gamble $10 once in a while. The best and safest way to gamble is to only bet as much as you can afford and always play once in a while.

Exactly! But this is really hard to apply in real life if you just started to gamble..

First time:
You win/loose $10 (Okay! I must only gamble what i can afford to loose)

Second time:
You lost $10 (Okay! I lost this time... should i gamble $10 more to recover what i just lost? Lets see)

After gambling:
You win $10 (Wow! I just recovered what i lost plus i have a $10 profit! This is fun!)

After that:
You loose everything! (Shit! Why did i start gambling? :/)

This is the short version of every gambler's story! You were warned Smiley

This just happened to me a on a dice site recently (but with a different base bet) and reading this made me a little bit sad about my lose.
Well, that's gambling.


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September 08, 2015, 03:53:34 AM
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My advice in this situation is that if you double or triple whatever you were comfortable starting with, you should leave the casino immediately.

It is easier said than done unfortunately. From what I see, the majority would just do "one more time" and "one more time" and on and on. Even if the gambler does leave the casino, he will be back sooner or later as he would keep on thinking about that $900 easy profit.

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September 08, 2015, 04:00:09 AM
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My advice in this situation is that if you double or triple whatever you were comfortable starting with, you should leave the casino immediately.

It is easier said than done unfortunately. From what I see, the majority would just do "one more time" and "one more time" and on and on. Even if the gambler does leave the casino, he will be back sooner or later as he would keep on thinking about that $900 easy profit.

Well, it's a little thing called self control. If you don't have it yourself, you should work on it. But you don't have any right telling other people what to do by spouting bullshit about "right" and "wrong", or what God says or anything.

If you can't control yourself at a blackjack table, you definitely have no moral authority over anyone.

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September 08, 2015, 04:11:02 AM
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And by the way - I enjoy gambling. And I don't always stop in time. I have NO moral authority over anyone.

But I dislike seeing some uneducated bible- or quran-thumping moralist "pondering" what's right and wrong for other people. He opens a topic about "is it wrong" -- because this is a cheap way to claim moral high ground for a barely-literal whatever he is in a village in some third world hell hole.

It's better for him to ask if it's right that his water supply is full of human feces, or why both his wives should be humiliated and treated like slaves, or who invented that phone or computer he typed that message on (certainly wasn't him -- it was the evil gamblers).

No, he's worried whether it's "wrong" that other people, with lives he can't even dream of or imagine, might be gambling their money.

And my answer to that is, it's none of your business what's right or wrong for others, because you aren't competent to make even basic moral choices if you're asking this question on a Bitcoin gambling forum, and you're not entitled to judge anyone in any event, so learn some humility.

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September 08, 2015, 04:23:41 AM
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And ... we all have to learn our own lessons for ourselves -- we learn from our mistakes and that's how we become better people. That's what it's called to be a man.

You wouldn't understand if everything you believe comes from your imam or your priest - some old man who pretends he knows more than you. You would never learn anything about life if you did that.

-Son of a rotten gambler (my favorite version).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIzX84po4LU

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September 08, 2015, 04:46:05 AM
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there is nothing wrong as long as you are in the right path.
i mean it's still inhuman and not excessive.

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September 08, 2015, 05:32:50 AM
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Gambling can be addictive like alcohol  but it should't be wrong to gamble $10 once in a while. The best and safest way to gamble is to only bet as much as you can afford and always play once in a while.

Exactly! But this is really hard to apply in real life if you just started to gamble..

First time:
You win/loose $10 (Okay! I must only gamble what i can afford to loose)

Second time:
You lost $10 (Okay! I lost this time... should i gamble $10 more to recover what i just lost? Lets see)

After gambling:
You win $10 (Wow! I just recovered what i lost plus i have a $10 profit! This is fun!)

After that:
You loose everything! (Shit! Why did i start gambling? :/)

This is the short version of every gambler's story! You were warned Smiley

No, normally the way how people get addicted is like this.

First time: Win $10
Second time: Win $10
Third time: $Win $10
Fourth time: $WIn $10
Fifth time: $Win $20
Sixth time: $Lose $50
Seventh time: $Lose $100
Ninth time: $Lose $200
Tenth time: $Lose $500



The people that lose at the beginning just give up and move on. Its the ones that win at the beginning who develop false confidence.

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September 08, 2015, 06:31:45 AM
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Same story as eating,what do you eat?how much?
If you say a lot, why a lot? If you say very less ,why?
Everything if its well counted can work good,if you push yourself over your monetary limit that's a problem, if you play once in a while it's not a problem,if it was food that you ate very little,then it was an issue to solve,but gambling its for relaxing your nerves.

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September 08, 2015, 06:41:23 AM
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There's no right and wrong in gambling... Gambling it's just that... gambling. You should understand the risk and be prepared for losing since you are always going against the odds.. That being said NEVER wage what you can't afford to lose and never chase your losses. Good luck all! Smiley

 

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September 08, 2015, 06:44:07 AM
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I like gambling I love the fact that you have a chance to win the thing with gambling is you either bet with stuff you can lose or you bet a little to much and win but you can not get addicted it is something that is addicting
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September 08, 2015, 07:36:23 AM
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Same story as eating,what do you eat?how much?
If you say a lot, why a lot? If you say very less ,why?
Everything if its well counted can work good,if you push yourself over your monetary limit that's a problem, if you play once in a while it's not a problem,if it was food that you ate very little,then it was an issue to solve,but gambling its for relaxing your nerves.

Exactly.

And there's nothing wrong with saying a lot if it works for you.

Being an adult means making your own decisions for yourself. You don't ask the internet to tell you if something is right or wrong. You try things, you overcome your fears, you make your mistakes, hopefully you learn something and get better at living your life, and then you teach that to your kids.

No one alive knows the right answer, and if they tell you they know everything, they're lying. You already know what's right or wrong for you - it is in your heart. But you have no idea how other people feel so it's stupid to ask what's right or wrong for them. Stop concerning yourself with other people's problems. And don't listen to a book or a "holy man". Listen to your conscience, and learn from what you experience for yourself. TRY EVERYTHING and condemn no one. Right now, you are condemning things you have never tried.

There's a phrase in English: "He keeps his own counsel". Meaning he is his own keeper. He controls his own emotions and makes his own decisions. He listens to others, but in the end he's deciding for himself. Based on his conscience and his own reasons.

This is a concept that doesn't exist much in Eastern culture, and especially doesn't exist in Islam. It's also the reason those countries are not a good place to live, and half the population is trying to invade western europe at the moment. If people in those countries kept their own counsel, then those countries could be a paradise, not a wasteland.

So instead of worrying about what is right or wrong, try to worry about what is right or wrong for you. You will appreciate the world much more when you realize that everyone has a different perspective.

The only true wrong in the world is harming someone else. Whatever you do to yourself is simply educational.

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September 08, 2015, 07:51:21 AM
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Same story as eating,what do you eat?how much?
If you say a lot, why a lot? If you say very less ,why?
Everything if its well counted can work good,if you push yourself over your monetary limit that's a problem, if you play once in a while it's not a problem,if it was food that you ate very little,then it was an issue to solve,but gambling its for relaxing your nerves.

Exactly.

And there's nothing wrong with saying a lot if it works for you.

Being an adult means making your own decisions for yourself. You don't ask the internet to tell you if something is right or wrong. You try things, you overcome your fears, you make your mistakes, hopefully you learn something and get better at living your life, and then you teach that to your kids.

No one alive knows the right answer, and if they tell you they know everything, they're lying. You already know what's right or wrong for you - it is in your heart. But you have no idea how other people feel so it's stupid to ask what's right or wrong for them. Stop concerning yourself with other people's problems. And don't listen to a book or a "holy man". Listen to your conscience, and learn from what you experience for yourself. TRY EVERYTHING and condemn no one. Right now, you are condemning things you have never tried.

There's a phrase in English: "He keeps his own counsel". Meaning he is his own keeper. He controls his own emotions and makes his own decisions. He listens to others, but in the end he's deciding for himself. Based on his conscience and his own reasons.

This is a concept that doesn't exist much in Eastern culture, and especially doesn't exist in Islam. It's also the reason those countries are not a good place to live, and half the population is trying to invade western europe at the moment. If people in those countries kept their own counsel, then those countries could be a paradise, not a wasteland.

So instead of worrying about what is right or wrong, try to worry about what is right or wrong for you. You will appreciate the world much more when you realize that everyone has a different perspective.

The only true wrong in the world is harming someone else. Whatever you do to yourself is simply educational.


Totally, totally TRUE. It's nice to here words of wisdom here. Smiley)

And from more technical aspects of gambling. I was against it for a very long time. But I've read about problem and I changed my mind a little. Addictions are bad in every form. But for example if you've got some money and you've got a limit (ex.: "Today I will spend max. 100$, because I saved them and I want to use them for my pleasure), gambling becomes a form of fun. Because it provides emotions. And if you are feel them, then you feel the taste of life. Smiley So reasonable gambling with limit of money to spend in particular time is GOOD in my opinion.
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September 08, 2015, 07:55:06 AM
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Gambling is wrong if you Lose
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