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Author Topic: 🌱[ANN] SOIL | Environmental | Agriculture | Smart Contracts | Sustainable  (Read 237556 times)
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February 26, 2016, 03:04:01 PM
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first of all, id like to apologize for the lengthiness of this post, its the first in a series im hoping to pen in order to introduce everyone to smart contracts and dApps, in the hopes of getting more and varied dApps deployed onto the SOIL-VM.

as ive said before, i think the most important thing about SOIL is the fact we can run smart contracts (or dApps) on the blockchain. i truly believe that these are the the future of how we interact online, and given five years, smart contracts will be the underlying layer from everything from our email and social media to how we perform scientific studies and computational needs. it will lead, over the course of the next decade, to what stephen tual from Ethereum calls the "decentralization singularity".

right now, with SOIL as well as ETH, smart contracts remain fairly esoteric, not only in definition, but in building, deployment and essential end-user interaction. im hoping that thru some discussions here, we can get some other folks working of dApps on the SOIL blockchain.

why would SOIL be a great place to deploy smart contracts? the cost of the computational actions. where ETH is now $6.25, and "gas" to perform a transaction or deployment is 500 szabo (1 szabo=.00001ETH) the cost of transactions is $0.03125USD. this can add up in one is doing many transactions, which in business terms cuts in to the bottom line.

with SOIL, where whole unit costs are hovering around $0.015USD, the same transaction or computational cost works out to $0.000075USD. gas price acceptance by miners is alterable, as is the gas you want to use to perform a computation or transaction, but..well, default is default. with little incentive and nearly non-existent instructions to do so from a miners perspective, the "gas" system is becoming very inefficient and costly using ETH. what happens when ETH hits $10, or $20?

beyond the basic economic considerations of use on the EVM, the documentation for deployment and interaction with smart contracts is also less than accessible. so, maybe we need to break it down a little and put everything in simpler terms.

ive been watching the expansion of the dAppsphere over the last several months, and theres a lot of really promising projects being developed for Ethereum. being open source, this gives SOIL, as well as Expanse, the ability to really work with whats out there. unfortunately, generally without much support from the developers. but what makes smart contracts so important in the first place, especially now, in the nascent stages of the Virtual Machine architecture? and where does it go from here?

smart contracts are self-executing or self-enforcing (or both) bits of code that run on top of the virtual machine, which will create a decentralized internet, where we can access documents, perform scientific computations, and run financial and organizational schemes, just as a few examples. pretty much... imagination is the limit. as we continue to build this architecture into the blockchain, smart contracts will be able to communicate with each-other, creating massive scalability. right now, the bulk of contracts are very simple things, while there are some massive projects out there such as augur.

ethereum uses, essentially, three programming languages... solidity, serpent and lll. solidity is the language being pushed most, while serpent (a near relation to python) remains very usable. a number of online compilers exist, generally for the solidity language, to make setting up a contract from basic progamming language into machine code that is readable on the EVM. there are tons of tutorials online, although, with the speed of evolution for these languages, many times the example script is outdated and doesnt compile right, which just leads to frustration. other dApp development package managers are becoming available as well, both for solidity and for serpent, which seek to make building and deploying a contract much simpler. as we approach Homestead on ETH, which will naturally lead to improvements here on SOIL, we'll see a much greater accessibility to building dApps.

so, online compilers, on-console compilers.... thanks to peter, we have the SOIL development tool, based on cosmo, to work with.
( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1176709.msg13574585#msg13574585 ) but using the other compilers to break a contract code into bytecode or "web3 deployment code" can be used as well. one of the issues ive found working with these is that not every online compiler works the same, or provides the same output.

probably the most well-known online compiler is chriseth's one at github ( https://chriseth.github.io/browser-solidity/ ) and it remains the one im using more often than not. entering in your contract code in the left-side pane will present different forms of compiled code. bytecode, which is how a contract is STORED on the blockchain is a long line of hexidecimal digits (0-9, a-h).

(*you can view the bytecode for many contracts already existing on the ETH blockchain at ( https://live.ether.camp/contracts ) and using some of the ETH block explorers, you can call up a contract's address and view the code built into it. ( https://www.etherchain.org provides the basic code (for verified source code), ABI, bytecodes and opcodes for contracts; https://etherscan.io provides opcodes and bytecodes) )

interface brings up the contract API, which is used to communicate with the contract.
web3 deploy brings the information necessary to copy/paste into the clientside CLI (gsoil) in order to deploy the contract simply
uDApp is short for Universal DApp, which is considered "a Universal Interface for contracts on the Ethereum blockchain". the project behind this feature seems to have been abandoned, or rolled into the basic solidity compiler, solc.
other features with chriseth's compiler give you the solidity interface, opcodes, functions, and gas estimates.

etherchain's compiler at ( https://www.etherchain.org/solc ) presents much of the same information, but i find it buggy, with lots of errors in compiling presented. simple contracts work well, but anything meaty seems to have issues.

cosmo ( http://meteor-dapp-cosmo.meteor.com/ ) which is what peter's development tools are based on, presents a clean interface with which to build, compile and deploy dApps, including basic interfaces with which to call and transact with a smart contract (methods) and to interact with state-changing events, which is VERY helpful.

ether-fund (http://ether.fund/tools/) has a development tool and compiler available under the "tools" section, but it requires an account with them, the creation of which seems to be broken. verification emails never arrive, setting up a new account leads to an error thats been in place for many months, unfixed.

compiling can also be done via the console on gsoil. first you must make sure that the compilers are available and installed. (https://github.com/ethereum/go-ethereum/wiki/Contract-Tutorial) has a not-so-clear tutorial on how to enable this. you will have to do a little searching to find the necessary repositories for the various compilers.

ether-scripter (http://etherscripter.com/0-5-1/) also maintains an online development tool for the serpent and lll languages, but ive not had much luck working with it thus far.

serpent also has the pyepm (pyethereum package manager) available, which requires building a .yaml file to handle releasing and setting up contracts. ill go into the list of  development packages in another post.

for right now, id suggest looking into the projects available (http://dapps.ethercasts.com/ , https://consensys.net/ventures/spokes/ , http://hack.ether.camp/) and see what interests you. start small, and work your way up into larger projects. a quick search for "smart contracts" at github also reveals a plethora of contracts being worked on. hope everyone is having a great day. me, im taking a long-deserved hike in the woods today and then, more work on my pet projects this evening.






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February 26, 2016, 06:32:36 PM
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Wow. Kudos for that overview. Great piece of work!

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DANG! I wanted to buy soil for 300 satoshi instead of 600, now the coin is 3000! LOL



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February 27, 2016, 09:19:33 AM
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DANG! I wanted to buy soil for 300 satoshi instead of 600, now the coin is 3000! LOL



Sometimes you have luck and and sometimes not.
I took some profit becouse I bought 200k for 400-600 Sat

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February 28, 2016, 07:25:15 AM
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DANG! I wanted to buy soil for 300 satoshi instead of 600, now the coin is 3000! LOL



Just wait couple of days.
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February 29, 2016, 03:48:57 AM
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DANG! I wanted to buy soil for 300 satoshi instead of 600, now the coin is 3000! LOL



Just wait couple of days.

well, block times are now down to 29s average, with modest but persistent hashrates maintaining the block times and mining distribution. its not a rapid deployment of currency, but with stabler blocktimes, work on dApps can be accomplished much faster as well. it was killing me, launch a contract and wait half an hour for mining confirmation.

i dont see meteoric valuation rise like ethereum, or even decent sustainable rises like expanse. but i can see a steady slow increase in value, something that will prove its worth. im a dead realist when it comes to the market, kinda gotta be with something as attendant with chaos theory. the valuation, i think, serves us better right now, to attract that sort of computational need for renewable energy sciences and implementation.. for ubiquitous agricultural monitoring and design... that would benefit from cost effective computing AS EFFECTIVE BY DESIGN with the ethereum blockchain.

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February 29, 2016, 10:22:12 AM
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right now, with SOIL as well as ETH, smart contracts remain fairly esoteric, not only in definition, but in building, deployment and essential end-user interaction. im hoping that thru some discussions here, we can get some other folks working of dApps on the SOIL blockchain.


BLK as done this since month...
look at the last version of blackHalo (http://blackhalo.info/) look awesome
nobody care because no marketing and hype
David Zimbeck still working on it :-)

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February 29, 2016, 12:18:24 PM
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I decided to throw some hash at this coin for a while. Feels nice to be the only miner in the suprnova pool at the moment. Smiley

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February 29, 2016, 12:24:26 PM
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Please Retweet:
https://twitter.com/SOILcoin/status/698133684931665920

and please fill out the form:
https://poloniex.com/coinRequest

to help get SOIL listed on Poloniex.

Thanks.


Done.

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February 29, 2016, 12:58:38 PM
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Good coin, no scammery, transparent and fully checked out. That's what we want to see. Keep up the good work gentleman
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March 02, 2016, 12:52:07 AM
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we shall be listed on Polo and compete with EXP.  Undecided

ANYWAY, do we have huge premine as EXP did?
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March 02, 2016, 01:22:47 AM
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we shall be listed on Polo and compete with EXP.  Undecided

ANYWAY, do we have huge premine as EXP did?

Retweet if you like:
https://twitter.com/SOILcoin/status/698133684931665920

No, we don't have a huge reserve.

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Opening balance: 800,000.0 SOIL
Wallet address: 0x3204a79b0245c5e1d5efe39179017a1c6c00b322

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Opening balance: 200,000.0 SOIL
Wallet address (soil): 0xafc571db22ca80776def02150955026ff7329467
Wallet address (abvhiael): 0xe46731382fbc47621a6c480d4b6118026bbbcb3a
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March 02, 2016, 07:11:51 AM
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What about Yobit?
Still no listing.

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What about Yobit?
Still no listing.


Actually we don't need this exchange.
All force to POLO!
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March 02, 2016, 08:14:02 AM
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What about Yobit?
Still no listing.


I don't know what's the problem.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=914975.msg14052196#msg14052196
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March 02, 2016, 01:44:34 PM
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What about Yobit?
Still no listing.


ive written them again. and again. AND AGAIN. no response whatsoever to support questions, which is, in my line of thinking, a really shitty way of doing business. extraspecially in the highly demanding cryptocurrency community. from reading the forum here on bitcointalk, it seems as though many developers have experienced this very same problem. this is the pitfall with centralized exchanges.
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March 02, 2016, 02:04:05 PM
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What about Yobit?
Still no listing.


ive written them again. and again. AND AGAIN. no response whatsoever to support questions, which is, in my line of thinking, a really shitty way of doing business. extraspecially in the highly demanding cryptocurrency community. from reading the forum here on bitcointalk, it seems as though many developers have experienced this very same problem. this is the pitfall with centralized exchanges.

don't ask them again.

Yobit is full of shit coins, and listing on that will downgrade SOIL.

bittrex is fine, and if Polo find out SOIL potential, they will list soil for sure.
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March 02, 2016, 03:11:53 PM
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What about Yobit?
Still no listing.


ive written them again. and again. AND AGAIN. no response whatsoever to support questions, which is, in my line of thinking, a really shitty way of doing business. extraspecially in the highly demanding cryptocurrency community. from reading the forum here on bitcointalk, it seems as though many developers have experienced this very same problem. this is the pitfall with centralized exchanges.

don't ask them again.

Yobit is full of shit coins, and listing on that will downgrade SOIL.

bittrex is fine, and if Polo find out SOIL potential, they will list soil for sure.

im to the point id rather just have them refund the .1BTC we sent in to get listed in 2 business days and be done with them. with business practices such as those, its hard to believe yobit will be around a year from now. supporting the coin developers, especially those that send you money for listing, SHOULD be the lifeblood of their operation. poloniex would be a great fit, and with the present campaigning towards them, im hoping we do catch their notice. id LOVE to get SOIL listed on one of the chinese exchanges, though. thats a massive market with real world usage (renewable energy, scientific cloud computations, autonomous agriculture) thats entirely within our wheelhouse.
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Great performance at bittrex today Cheesy
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