Sidehack stick solo pool club

[philipma1957]

hi,

Where can I learn more about this opportunity?

<robb>

This is it. Unless you mean, "where can i get a stick?"?

Where are you? There's a thread for certain regions. If its not covered, this is the thread;

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1126705.0

Relevant part region wise;

- AJRGale is selling for Australia
- valkir is selling for Canada
- chiguireitor is selling in Venezuela
- MacEntyre of bitshopper.de is manufacturing and selling in Europe

I am in New York.  Do I order directly from you?

you go to group buy section and get one from sidehack

[philipma1957]

Just fired up 5th rental for today should last 4-6 hours

http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.philipma1957donation

[philipma1957]

I just received my sticks in the mail today.  I will play around with getting them running tonight and hopefully join the pool soon.  It sounds like a fun concept.

yeah it is for fun  with the added 5th we could even hit a block.


http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.Chris_Sabianstick

would be your worker name if you do it.


url

stratum+tcp://solo.ckpool.org:3333

user worker

1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.Chris_Sabianstick

[Jake36]

  I got  (or will get) my first payout with the sticks. LOL

Don't know how much (probably only dust), running in balanced mode with this pool and kano's pool (added it as another worker under my other hash).

Only ~199.99 more years to ROI, instead of ~200 years to ROI...LOL   

[philipma1957]

We could get lucky.

[edonkey]

I've written a Python script that monitors the CK Solo pool. At this point all it does is look for increases in the best share value for the workers or users you specify. If the best share of any monitored address goes up, then the script sends a notification email.

I realize that the best share is not that useful a statistic. Just because you got a given best share once doesn't mean you'll ever get that high again.

But at least it gives some feedback that your sticks are doing something. Maybe when they get a new best share you can pat them on their little heat sink heads and say "keep up the good work" or something equally encouraging

As far as noise level is concerned, it's pretty low. I'm monitoring my two addresses plus the club and I'm only seeing an email about once every other day. It's not like there's continual best share spam.

Also as time goes on and new heights are reached, it might be rare to get a notification. But the script has an option to clear the stats and start over, if you miss the notification emails.

At some point I might extend the script to do something more useful, like notify when a block is found by the pool, or even better when one of your workers finds a block. There's already a script that does some of this, although without emailing. I prefer email notification, so I'll probably roll this functionality in.

If there's any interest, I'll post the script so that people can try it out. Maybe I'll put it on github, although that seems a bit grandiose for such a silly script.

[VirosaGITS]

I would be interested in the script, mostly to better understand how doing api calls work but yeah i'm interested.

Also Valkir should receive the Canada batch around today, so SoonTM i'll add my stick.

Edit: Also, from there, it would not be too hard to make it mail a report of who's hash dropped under X. You can probably have it run through all the lines and report which one has dropped under X hash. Your script might teach me how to do that. As i'm familiar with Python syntax already:)

Could use it to post a nice format that Phil could post once per day reporting active/inactive users.

[edonkey]

I would be interested in the script, mostly to better understand how doing api calls work but yeah i'm interested.

Also Valkir should receive the Canada batch around today, so SoonTM i'll add my stick.

Edit: Also, from there, it would not be too hard to make it mail a report of who's hash dropped under X. You can probably have it run through all the lines and report which one has dropped under X hash. Your script might teach me how to do that. As i'm familiar with Python syntax already:)

Could use it to post a nice format that Phil could post once per day reporting active/inactive users.

OK. It will take me a couple of days to clean the script up and get it posted. I'll probably put it on github because it will make it easier to collaborate.

You're going to be surprised at how easy it is to access the JSON API. That's the simplest part.

The hard part was dealing with email authentication. Most email services nowadays (like gmail) require authentication, which leads to the problem of how a script stores a password securely. I ended up using the "keyring" Python library, which provides a platform agnostic interface to the OS keychain. Very useful...

I agree that having a hash rate monitor would be great too. Slush's pool provides that as a built-in option, and it's been very useful as a problem indicator. It would be a good addition to the monitor script.

I'll also probably add some support files around the script. For example, I'd like to run the script as a Mac OS daemon rather than explicitly running it from a command line. It's pretty easy to add a plist file that would load the monitor via Apple's launchd mechanism automatically at boot.

[VirosaGITS]

I'm pretty noob/patchwork so i would just make a bat file calling the script in windows and drop it in the Startup folder, thats how i auto start my miners.
It would make a very nice addition to this project among other things.

[philipma1957]

I've written a Python script that monitors the CK Solo pool. At this point all it does is look for increases in the best share value for the workers or users you specify. If the best share of any monitored address goes up, then the script sends a notification email.

I realize that the best share is not that useful a statistic. Just because you got a given best share once doesn't mean you'll ever get that high again.

But at least it gives some feedback that your sticks are doing something. Maybe when they get a new best share you can pat them on their little heat sink heads and say "keep up the good work" or something equally encouraging

As far as noise level is concerned, it's pretty low. I'm monitoring my two addresses plus the club and I'm only seeing an email about once every other day. It's not like there's continual best share spam.

Also as time goes on and new heights are reached, it might be rare to get a notification. But the script has an option to clear the stats and start over, if you miss the notification emails.

At some point I might extend the script to do something more useful, like notify when a block is found by the pool, or even better when one of your workers finds a block. There's already a script that does some of this, although without emailing. I prefer email notification, so I'll probably roll this functionality in.

If there's any interest, I'll post the script so that people can try it out. Maybe I'll put it on github, although that seems a bit grandiose for such a silly script.

It will be needed to make this idea run long term.  I appreciate the effort.

[Chris_Sabian]

It looks like I'm in the club now!   

Special thanks for philipma1957 for getting me set-up with the stick.

 There was a slight issue with having to adjust the power pot a few degrees to get the stick to run.  I'm running the gekko cgminer build. 

[philipma1957]

It looks like I'm in the club now!   

Special thanks for philipma1957 for getting me set-up with the stick.

 There was a slight issue with having to adjust the power pot a few degrees to get the stick to run.  I'm running the gekko cgminer build. 

 If running directly off your pc  it means using lower freq  like 150 or 125 since you do not want to overheat the usb jack on your pc.
I know you are at freq 150 so 7gb is close to normal  if you drop out over time try lower freq of 125  as it  uses less power.  your hash rate will go to 6gh or 5.8gh  but it still lets you in the club.

Some pc's have really good usb ports  and you may go as high as 1.5 amps which would let you run at freq 250 or 275.

[TheRealSteve]

speaking of stats - if anybody's hanging out on freenode, check out ##compacclub - bot currently there tracks the pool's stats, club's stats, individual workers' stats, alerts on hash rate changes and best share results, solo.ckpool finding a block (and whether or not the club found it), maybe something else I forgot.


-> !top
<- Top shares: Jake36stick (10981983.020689903) notlist3dstick (5775722.6284132451) fullzerostick (2676527.3433792628) philipma1957sticks (1969220.3534147725) TheRealStevestick (1907260.184812098)
<- Top hash rates: alienesbstick (31.9Gh/s) philipma1957sticks (24.5Gh/s) TheRealStevestick (14.2Gh/s) Jake36stick (13Gh/s) fullzerostick (10.8Gh/s)


-> !listworkers
<- Workers (9): alienesbstick Chris_Sabianstick edonkeystick fullzerostick Jake36stick notlist3dstick philipma1957sticks TheRealStevestick vapourminerstick

( 15 minute interval )
<- Pool status - 1hr hash rate: 593Th/s - workers: 799 - uptime: 2wks 5days 3hrs 39mins 15secs - last block: 375585 @ 2015-Sep-11 16:36:16
<- Club status - 1hr hash rate: 274Gh/s - workers: 9 - best share: 198347050.11709523
<- Apparent 1hr hash rate decrease (10%-) for notlist3dstick: 5.83Gh/s -> 4.59Gh/s
<- Apparent 1hr hash rate decrease (10%-) for Jake36stick: 11.9Gh/s -> 661Mh/s
<- New best share for Chris_Sabianstick: 29382.466406855503 -> 43858.701842226998

( 5 minute interval, sample output for last block )
<- solo.ckpool found block: 375585 at 2015-Sep-11 16:36:16 - mined to 1bziSGvR4a8ogVbR4JNG5D7pFAZFgpADX


Jake36's stick is probably (going) offline - it should pop up a separate warning on that

[brush242]

<Sonofa...!>

I've said it before, I'll say it again. Part of the reason that new newbies don't get involved in the numbers that we would like is that these things *still* remain utterly goddamn inaccessible to the average Joe.

"Well you need a usb, but not any usb, and not any spacing on the usb, or your miners won't fit on the usb, and a power supply for that usb, but not any power supply for that usb, and the usb you want is some extraordinarily expensive usb. Then, now that you've gotten your usb, no. way. in. hell. will you be able to plug-n-play it with one program. First you gotta decide between a mining program, but not any mining program, you can choose the b mining program, or the c mining program, or the m mining program or the novak-version of one mining program, but any particular mining program may not work on your system, so's you gotta go get zadig and fiddle with that for a while, but no. way. in. hell. are you gonna get them working without a .bat file, and a .cfg file, or both files, or one or the other of those files, and it's exceedingly irritating to see if you need both and jeebus help you if you need a config file, good luck figuring THAT goddamn thing out, and if you. goddamn. type. an. extra. space. you're effed until you can figure that out and good luck on figuring that out, but a few thousand hours may get to the point where's you can plug in yer miners and start effin' around with hex values and clock speeds and then start effin around with a pot on your miner, which, though brilliant, leaves you noobs guessing as to just how quickly you can fry the goddamn thing loooong after the smile ROI has evaporated and loooong before the dust ROI has appeared - like the time I caught the ferry over to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for my shoe, so, I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So, I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. Give me five bees for a quarter, you'd say. Now where were we? Oh yeah: the important thing was I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have white onions because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones..."

I've effed with lots of usbs, cubes, and plenty o' Bitmain miners, I'm no stranger and yet *still* I cannot get these to work. </rant>

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Windows 8.1 system, ONE miner directly into a laptop USB, I've tried every version of mining program and .bat file I can think of, and read Novak's GekkoScience Compac BM1384 Stickminer Official Support Thread repeatedly to no avail.

Can anyone point me to anything that they have found helpful? Or, more directly, do I need both a .bat and a config file? Or just one or the other? If so, would someone mind too terribly posting what they've had success with that doesn't involve some sort of Linux or a Rasp Pi? Also, can I just crank the pot to 11 and let it go? 3/4s of the way and let it go? I want to push them, just not fry them.

I've got three, so I'm excited to get them into the club. Any help greatly appreciated!

[Jake36]

speaking of stats - if anybody's hanging out on freenode, check out ##compacclub - bot currently there tracks the pool's stats, club's stats, individual workers' stats, alerts on hash rate changes and best share results, solo.ckpool finding a block (and whether or not the club found it), maybe something else I forgot.


-> !top
<- Top shares: Jake36stick (10981983.020689903) notlist3dstick (5775722.6284132451) fullzerostick (2676527.3433792628) philipma1957sticks (1969220.3534147725) TheRealStevestick (1907260.184812098)
<- Top hash rates: alienesbstick (31.9Gh/s) philipma1957sticks (24.5Gh/s) TheRealStevestick (14.2Gh/s) Jake36stick (13Gh/s) fullzerostick (10.8Gh/s)


-> !listworkers
<- Workers (9): alienesbstick Chris_Sabianstick edonkeystick fullzerostick Jake36stick notlist3dstick philipma1957sticks TheRealStevestick vapourminerstick

( 15 minute interval )
<- Pool status - 1hr hash rate: 593Th/s - workers: 799 - uptime: 2wks 5days 3hrs 39mins 15secs - last block: 375585 @ 2015-Sep-11 16:36:16
<- Club status - 1hr hash rate: 274Gh/s - workers: 9 - best share: 198347050.11709523
<- Apparent 1hr hash rate decrease (10%-) for notlist3dstick: 5.83Gh/s -> 4.59Gh/s
<- Apparent 1hr hash rate decrease (10%-) for Jake36stick: 11.9Gh/s -> 661Mh/s
<- New best share for Chris_Sabianstick: 29382.466406855503 -> 43858.701842226998

( 5 minute interval, sample output for last block )
<- solo.ckpool found block: 375585 at 2015-Sep-11 16:36:16 - mined to 1bziSGvR4a8ogVbR4JNG5D7pFAZFgpADX


Jake36's stick is probably (going) offline - it should pop up a separate warning on that

This looks good, might have to check freenode out.

Yeah, I been playing around with the cgminer-gekko build on the Pi, so dropping off here and there.

Was on kano's pool before I seen this one was up, pulled a 20.5M share with the sticks (at least by cgminer stats). Actually getting (or going to get) a couple of payouts with the sticks now. Think I'm may be down to only ~199.9895 years to ROI LOL 

Still got to get better power to the hub so I can crank them up some.

[sidehack]

If it makes you feel any better, I test every stick on a USB port (via an unpowered hub and a six-foot USB extension cable that loses about 1V per 1A draw) straight off a crappy old laptop I got for $10. It's running Windows XP 32-bit, generic XP32 Zadig installer and a stock Win32 build of cgminer 4.9.2. I don't use a config file. I only use a batch file so I don't have to type in the payout address every time, but for a while I didn't even have that set up. Neither should be required, they're just a convenience.

I haven't tested Novak's cgminer win32 because I don't test flashed sticks, I get 'em before that part. But I have seen his Linux cg-gekko run eight sticks flawlessly at 200MHz off one of these world's cheapest 10-port USB hubs I wired to a Molex connector about two years ago. At the time of this posting it's running 5 sticks at 350MHz.

You shouldn't need a high-dollar powered hub for these guys unless you're running a bunch of them or running them hard. When they light up on my testbench they're drawing 620mA and 4.3V (note that's 2.67W, or about 7% higher than a minimum baseline standard USB port should be guaranteed to provide) at the socket and work just fine. If your hub or port or whatever can't do about that much, hit it with a bat and start over because it prolly ain't worth keeping around.

The sticks are about 12mm thick, maybe 14 with the screw heads since they came out a bit taller than I'd like. Most ports have at least 15mm spacing between jacks. My test hub has 16mm spacing and these things fit in with plenty of room for airflow from the crappy fan.

If you got a multimeter, measure between the GND and VCORE test pads on the backside will tell you what power you're running. Compare that to the handy V/GH chart in this here Bitmain post, except multiply the hashrate by 18.2 to get the frequency you'd need to get that speed out of it at the voltage indicated.

Each stick I set to a Vcore of 610mV and test for functionality at 150MHz (8.25GH). I'm not sure if Novak resets them higher when he burns 'em in. It should be impossible to fry the sticks by overvolting unless something else is broken first. The pot spins from 0.55V up to 0.80V and then kicks back over to 0.55V when you turn it too far.

I grew up six miles from Shelbyville. Trust me, there ain't nothing to see but the county courthouse and a gas station what also makes pizza.

Just throwing that out there.

[vapourminer]

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Windows 8.1 system, ONE miner directly into a laptop USB, I've tried every version of mining program and .bat file I can think of, and read Novak's GekkoScience Compac BM1384 Stickminer Official Support Thread repeatedly to no avail.

not all laptop USB ports can put out the full 500 ma (2.5 watts) that the USB 2 spec calls for.

have you tried them in a desktop or (standard run of the mill) powered USB 2 hub?

this may not be an issue now but cgminer used to have problems with some USB 3 ports with some miners, if your laptop has both USB 2 and 3 try a USB 2 port.

[philipma1957]

free hash is up  will run for about 5-6 hours.

https://www.nicehash.com/?p=orders   order number is 626264 under the SHA256 hash section

[philipma1957]

<Sonofa...!>

I've said it before, I'll say it again. Part of the reason that new newbies don't get involved in the numbers that we would like is that these things *still* remain utterly goddamn inaccessible to the average Joe.

"Well you need a usb, but not any usb, and not any spacing on the usb, or your miners won't fit on the usb, and a power supply for that usb, but not any power supply for that usb, and the usb you want is some extraordinarily expensive usb. Then, now that you've gotten your usb, no. way. in. hell. will you be able to plug-n-play it with one program. First you gotta decide between a mining program, but not any mining program, you can choose the b mining program, or the c mining program, or the m mining program or the novak-version of one mining program, but any particular mining program may not work on your system, so's you gotta go get zadig and fiddle with that for a while, but no. way. in. hell. are you gonna get them working without a .bat file, and a .cfg file, or both files, or one or the other of those files, and it's exceedingly irritating to see if you need both and jeebus help you if you need a config file, good luck figuring THAT goddamn thing out, and if you. goddamn. type. an. extra. space. you're effed until you can figure that out and good luck on figuring that out, but a few thousand hours may get to the point where's you can plug in yer miners and start effin' around with hex values and clock speeds and then start effin around with a pot on your miner, which, though brilliant, leaves you noobs guessing as to just how quickly you can fry the goddamn thing loooong after the smile ROI has evaporated and loooong before the dust ROI has appeared - like the time I caught the ferry over to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for my shoe, so, I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So, I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. Give me five bees for a quarter, you'd say. Now where were we? Oh yeah: the important thing was I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have white onions because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones..."

I've effed with lots of usbs, cubes, and plenty o' Bitmain miners, I'm no stranger and yet *still* I cannot get these to work. </rant>

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Windows 8.1 system, ONE miner directly into a laptop USB, I've tried every version of mining program and .bat file I can think of, and read Novak's GekkoScience Compac BM1384 Stickminer Official Support Thread repeatedly to no avail.

Can anyone point me to anything that they have found helpful? Or, more directly, do I need both a .bat and a config file? Or just one or the other? If so, would someone mind too terribly posting what they've had success with that doesn't involve some sort of Linux or a Rasp Pi? Also, can I just crank the pot to 11 and let it go? 3/4s of the way and let it go? I want to push them, just not fry them.

I've got three, so I'm excited to get them into the club. Any help greatly appreciated!

  yeah I have owned and worked with 1000  usb sticks   some were hard to get to work.

try no config

 try no .bat

click the cgminer file from novak's gekko build  you did down load his build?

[edonkey]

speaking of stats - if anybody's hanging out on freenode, check out ##compacclub - bot currently there tracks the pool's stats, club's stats, individual workers' stats, alerts on hash rate changes and best share results, solo.ckpool finding a block (and whether or not the club found it), maybe something else I forgot.

Haven't used freenode before, but that looks really cool!