Sidehack stick solo pool club

[notlist3d]

I'm thinking you guys could really do with share summaries being recorded/added somewhere to solo pool. I may do that to encourage these sort of clubs in the future.

Hopefully it is not that difficult.  I think it would be beneficial

If you have the time to do it.  It would be very much appreciated.  I realize we are not a 100 T group.  But I think we are a long term club.

So I understand if not on top of to-do's.  But support of clubs like this would be amazing if you have time for even just a summery page.

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[Mikestang]

I should have summarized this, but I know I can run the single cgminer and a stick from a usb port on the laptop or docking station. Can I also run an externally powered hub with a stick running a separate cgminer, its own settings, etc?

Add --usb :1 to the bat file for each stick.  When you launch cgminer that command tells it to only initialize 1 usb device.  That way you can run two instances of cgminer and each will only control a single stick.

I just did this and now I have 1 stick on a laptop port @ 125 freq (0.5A) and one on a hub at 262.5 freq (1.0A, which is what each port on this hub is rated to support), both sticks pointed to the club.

I think that shares summary would be really cool, it would help facilitate a fair spread of the block reward after this initial period is over.  In which case I would probably just point all my solo miners to the club.

[alh]

As an experiment, I have pointed my "mighty SP20" at the pool just using my existing .alhstick suffix. I will do this for at least an hour or more. This in conjunction with my two sticks. I figure I can see that it's working as I expect using the page for my .alhstick. I'll probably do this again in the future, but I can't guarantee when or for how long.

Is there any particular reason for a .alhdonation suffix? Does that require any work on Phil's part? Right now I am just looking to see that I got all the little things lined up, and I can adjust them later as needed.

That's for setting this up, Phillip!

[philipma1957]

With getting close to 26-27 members are we about to do a lock at some point?  I was not sure what the target number is to close it temporary at least.

And I could be in minority and people want it open.   I just think fun drops at a certain point.

beta ends on the 11th  keeping all things loose for beta

[HerbPean]

Phil, Therocks36 is away at the moment ... He'll check his stick when he get home.

[philipma1957]

to follow up on max memberships  

depending if ck can give a clean summary maybe we do 2 of 15.

keeping track right now is mechanical check on my part.

 plus TheRealSteve and encad have some background  tracking software in place

If we do 2 poolclubs  

  1 with 15 members  and the second with 15 members each one  is separate. you could get.

  1/15 share of 7.5 coins  and the other 17.5 coins could be given split  via shares.

So a guy with 1 stick would get 0.5btc  and a very tiny piece of the 17.5 coins

A guy with 100 sticks would get 0.5 btc  and a bigger piece of the 17.5 coins

Still makes an incentive for a 1 stick miner.  And really helps bigger miners more then our current setup.

I know that going over 30 or 35 dilutes too much.  So long term I would think 2 clubs.  and a mixed reward system may be better.

[notlist3d]

to follow up on max memberships  

depending if ck can give a clean summary maybe we do 2 of 15.

keeping track right now is mechanical check on my part.

 plus TheRealSteve and encad have some background  tracking software in place

If we do 2 poolclubs  

  1 with 15 members  and the second with 15 members each one  is separate. you could get.

  1/15 share of 7.5 coins  and the other 17.5 coins could be given split  via shares.

So a guy with 1 stick would get 0.5btc  and a very tiny piece of the 17.5 coins

A guy with 100 sticks would get 0.5 btc  and a bigger piece of the 17.5 coins

Still makes an incentive for a 1 stick miner.  And really helps bigger miners more then our current setup.

I know that going over 30 or 35 dilutes too much.  So long term I would think 2 clubs.  and a mixed reward system may be better.

Each being separate would kinda suck if one hit it and was not yours.   So if you have multiple sticks will you be able to be part of multiple clubs?  Point 1 stick twords group and 1 to 2nd group, etc?

[sloopy]

I should have summarized this, but I know I can run the single cgminer and a stick from a usb port on the laptop or docking station. Can I also run an externally powered hub with a stick running a separate cgminer, its own settings, etc?

Add --usb :1 to the bat file for each stick.  When you launch cgminer that command tells it to only initialize 1 usb device.  That way you can run two instances of cgminer and each will only control a single stick.

I just did this and now I have 1 stick on a laptop port @ 125 freq (0.5A) and one on a hub at 262.5 freq (1.0A, which is what each port on this hub is rated to support), both sticks pointed to the club.

I think that shares summary would be really cool, it would help facilitate a fair spread of the block reward after this initial period is over.  In which case I would probably just point all my solo miners to the club.

U for Usb, my bad
I didn't use common sense when perusing the readme.
Thanks Mikestang!

Edit:
I probably should have put this in the review thread, but it is here now. IF you guys think it makes any real difference tell me and I will move it.
To explain what I did with this information.
I placed one stick running at 125 in the Laptop USB port to maintain pool presence no matter what. This laptop has an LTE cell connection so if worse came to worse I am online when the bomb drops.
I placed 4 sticks spread out nicely in my 13 port hub.
Stick #2 is in slot 13 right next to the (charge only) port where I connect the arctic breeze blowing on stick #2.
Stick #2 is ran at 275 Mhz for about 12 hours with 0 hardware errors and I just bumped it up to 300.
The other 3, sticks #3, #4, and #5 are running at 250, 175, and 150 beautifully. The only one with a HW error is #3, and that is HW:2 in the same 12 hours. I am calling them all stable.

I run a separate cgminer instance for each one. Why?
I control each one independently. But why?
One reason is I do not have another fan to fit in this area comfortably yet and I want to overclock. So I keep the fan pointed straight on stick #2 while I have it connected to my usb power monitor. I can hold my fingers on it indefinitely at 300. I am pulling 1.36 amps @ 4.92 volts.
I think I am hitting the ceiling of where this hub will reach and be stable.

All of the other sticks stay operational, on the same PC, and I can do whatever I want with this one, or any other individual stick.
I have a Y cable I found on Amazon. IT wasn't an easy find, it was hard work, and cost me ten bucks, but I wanted it sooner than the slow boat from China. This one was prime as well, so no shipping and received it in two (actually three but I'm not arguing with them) business days. IT is supposed to be here tomorrow, and then I can really see whatsup. I will get another fan ready today.

At the moment I have them all set to balanced between ck solo and my main kano account, but this is only temporary fooling around because balanced has never worked as well as it should on my main mining rigs, so I do not expect it to start working now. By not working I mean if I add the hash from the two balanced pools I never reach what I get solo to either one. I plan to go back to a failover setting once I collect enough data to be happy with my theory that sticks suffer the same problem.

Overall, running the separate instance is giving me freedom with one good hub. Klintays hubs are probably better, I think they go to 2 amps per port if you do not populate them all, but again, once I made up my mind, I wanted it yesterday, so I went with this used Anker. Helluva deal, and it is USB3, which I know doesn't matter to most, but in my thinking true USB3 is future proof for other projects, provides 900 ma per port at the minimum. I am running it on a USB2 port on the same laptop stick #1 is running on.

This USB power measuring device has a reading in the bottom right corner and describes it as capacitance. I'm not sure what this is telling me yet. Don't get me wrong, I know what capacitance and a capacitor are, I simply do not know what they are telling me in this context, yet.
Here are some pics. The first is a bit blurry, sorry.







I want one of Klintays 19 port hubs and another 15 sticks to play with.
I am so jealous of you guys who were around during the days when this was the way to mine, or GPUs, or CPUs.
This is the kind of stuff that teaches people things, you never reach the end of possibilities due to your cash availability.
This can start someone down the road of dreaming big and eventually doing big, while providing the experience on a small scale.

For the young people out there, look at this as something to add to your arsenal of skill sets. The future is software and electronics engineering. Grab anything you love in either of those two fields and run with it.

[pepto]

Unus pro omnibus, omnes pro uno. My initial reaction to having two clubs is not good. Of course if I manage or finagle to get one stick in each club I guess I'd have nothing to say.

[philipma1957]

to follow up on max memberships  

depending if ck can give a clean summary maybe we do 2 of 15.

keeping track right now is mechanical check on my part.

 plus TheRealSteve and encad have some background  tracking software in place

If we do 2 poolclubs  

  1 with 15 members  and the second with 15 members each one  is separate. you could get.

  1/15 share of 7.5 coins  and the other 17.5 coins could be given split  via shares.

So a guy with 1 stick would get 0.5btc  and a very tiny piece of the 17.5 coins

A guy with 100 sticks would get 0.5 btc  and a bigger piece of the 17.5 coins

Still makes an incentive for a 1 stick miner.  And really helps bigger miners more then our current setup.

I know that going over 30 or 35 dilutes too much.  So long term I would think 2 clubs.  and a mixed reward system may be better.

Each being separate would kinda suck if one hit it and was not yours.   So if you have multiple sticks will you be able to be part of multiple clubs?  Point 1 stick twords group and 1 to 2nd group, etc?

Unus pro omnibus, omnes pro uno. My initial reaction to having two clubs is not good. Of course if I manage or finagle to get one stick in each club I guess I'd have nothing to say.

It was a late night idea.  Not good too much confusion.  also the snag my club hit yours did not factor kills off the joy of playing it.


 I think 1 club is better idea.

max at 30  members.             

 15 coins are 1/30 each    or  1/29,  1/28, 1/27  ,…..  depends on how many we are up to 30.



10 coins are split based on shares  --------- depends if ck makes a share sheet up for the pool.



We do it for 30 days   you get some coin via shares. -------helps the bigger player

you have a chance at .5 btc  or more if we hit a block.--------- helps the 1 or 2 stick  little player

it runs from oct 11th to nov 11th -------- date is subject to change if ck says the tracking info will not be ready until

a little later.

[philipma1957]

http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.alienesbstick

http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.larry12stick

http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.Ecnadstick

http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.therocks36stick

http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.FinksySticks

of the 27 members  5  above are off line

so 22 shares if we hit.

The new power supply in my stud hub is letting me run 19 sticks at freq 200

http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.philipma1957sticks

the sticks do close to 10.8 gh each  and this is the psu I put in the stud hub


https://www.trcelectronics.com/ecomm/pdf/lrs150f.pdf




if you want a smaller cheaper one  this one below should be nice


https://www.trcelectronics.com/ecomm/pdf/lrs100.pdf

it is 86% eff and is only 17.30  usd for 1

if you buy 9 it is 14.13 usd

[Ecnad]

Sorry, I wasn't offline, switched to a Raspberry pi setup, and forgot to Capitalize Ecnad:
http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.ecnadstick
http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.ecnaddonate

[philipma1957]

Sorry, I wasn't offline, switched to a Raspberry pi setup, and forgot to Capitalize Ecnad:
http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.ecnadstick
http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.ecnaddonate

I will correct

[Ecnad]

Thanks. Was able to get 3 sticks averaging 16GH each without all the errors of Windows. Tried more than 3 but it seems by eyeboot hub doesn't have enough power for more than that.

ecnaddonate is an s3+ running 24/7 just to increase our odds.

[philipma1957]

http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.alienesbstick

http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.larry12stick

http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.Ecnadstick

http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.therocks36stick

http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.FinksySticks

of the 27 members  3  above are off line

so 24 shares if we hit.


Side bar:





The new power supply in my stud hub is letting me run 19 sticks at freq 200

http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.philipma1957sticks

the sticks do close to 10.8 gh each  and this is the psu I put in the stud hub


https://www.trcelectronics.com/ecomm/pdf/lrs150f.pdf




if you want a smaller cheaper one  this one below should be nice


https://www.trcelectronics.com/ecomm/pdf/lrs100.pdf

it is 86% eff and is only 17.30  usd for 1

if you buy 9 it is 14.13 usd


here is a shot of 20 sticks  

my 20 sidehack/novac/compac sticks

set at freq 200 running debian 7.7 on an intel 4570t cpu machine. Along with a node.




19 sticks on a modded stud hub




the 20th stick uses a y cable and 2 ports of the pc

I drilled a hole on the heat sink. I hung the stick by the psu's exhaust since the pc only runs the sticks and a node the psu exhaust works well to cool the 20th stick.


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[VirosaGITS]

http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.alienesbstick

http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.larry12stick

http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.Ecnadstick

http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.therocks36stick

http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.FinksySticks

of the 27 members  3  above are off line

so 24 shares if we hit.


Side bar:





The new power supply in my stud hub is letting me run 19 sticks at freq 200

http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.philipma1957sticks

the sticks do close to 10.8 gh each  and this is the psu I put in the stud hub


https://www.trcelectronics.com/ecomm/pdf/lrs150f.pdf




if you want a smaller cheaper one  this one below should be nice


https://www.trcelectronics.com/ecomm/pdf/lrs100.pdf

it is 86% eff and is only 17.30  usd for 1

if you buy 9 it is 14.13 usd


here is a shot of 20 sticks  

my 20 sidehack/novac/compac sticks

set at freq 200 running debian 7.7 on an intel 4570t cpu machine. Along with a node.




19 sticks on a modded stud hub




the 20th stick uses a y cable and 2 ports of the pc

I drilled a hole on the heat sink. I hung the stick by the psu's exhaust since the pc only runs the sticks and a node the psu exhaust works well to cool the 20th stick.

Thats a really nice rig Phil. Its nice to see the variance on performance from stick to stick. Is it accurate that the last stick run at 7.xGH/s average while the others are close to 11gh?

[philipma1957]

http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.alienesbstick

http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.larry12stick

http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.Ecnadstick

http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.therocks36stick

http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.FinksySticks

of the 27 members  3  above are off line

so 24 shares if we hit.


Side bar:





The new power supply in my stud hub is letting me run 19 sticks at freq 200

http://solo.ckpool.org/workers/1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.philipma1957sticks

the sticks do close to 10.8 gh each  and this is the psu I put in the stud hub


https://www.trcelectronics.com/ecomm/pdf/lrs150f.pdf




if you want a smaller cheaper one  this one below should be nice


https://www.trcelectronics.com/ecomm/pdf/lrs100.pdf

it is 86% eff and is only 17.30  usd for 1

if you buy 9 it is 14.13 usd


here is a shot of 20 sticks  

my 20 sidehack/novac/compac sticks

set at freq 200 running debian 7.7 on an intel 4570t cpu machine. Along with a node.




19 sticks on a modded stud hub




the 20th stick uses a y cable and 2 ports of the pc

I drilled a hole on the heat sink. I hung the stick by the psu's exhaust since the pc only runs the sticks and a node the psu exhaust works well to cool the 20th stick.

Thats a really nice rig Phil. Its nice to see the variance on performance from stick to stick. Is it accurate that the last stick run at 7.xGH/s average while the others are close to 11gh?

no I was tweaking the sticks as a few had  hw's so I pulled  them one at a time to turn up the pots just a bit.  just about everyone of the 20 greens does very close to  11gh at freq 200


I will take a photo of the screen in a day to show it better.

[sloopy]

I edited my thanks post to mikestang above on this same page showing 5 different sticks running 5 different cgminers with 5 different frequencies.
I think each one will show you an average of what you can expect from each frequency. Phil's pic tomorrow will show that frequency as stable across multiple sticks.

[Jake36]

I should have summarized this, but I know I can run the single cgminer and a stick from a usb port on the laptop or docking station. Can I also run an externally powered hub with a stick running a separate cgminer, its own settings, etc?

Add --usb :1 to the bat file for each stick.  When you launch cgminer that command tells it to only initialize 1 usb device.  That way you can run two instances of cgminer and each will only control a single stick.

I just did this and now I have 1 stick on a laptop port @ 125 freq (0.5A) and one on a hub at 262.5 freq (1.0A, which is what each port on this hub is rated to support), both sticks pointed to the club.

I think that shares summary would be really cool, it would help facilitate a fair spread of the block reward after this initial period is over.  In which case I would probably just point all my solo miners to the club.

U for Usb, my bad
I didn't use common sense when perusing the readme.
Thanks Mikestang!

Edit:
I probably should have put this in the review thread, but it is here now. IF you guys think it makes any real difference tell me and I will move it.
To explain what I did with this information.
I placed one stick running at 125 in the Laptop USB port to maintain pool presence no matter what. This laptop has an LTE cell connection so if worse came to worse I am online when the bomb drops.
I placed 4 sticks spread out nicely in my 13 port hub.
Stick #2 is in slot 13 right next to the (charge only) port where I connect the arctic breeze blowing on stick #2.
Stick #2 is ran at 275 Mhz for about 12 hours with 0 hardware errors and I just bumped it up to 300.
The other 3, sticks #3, #4, and #5 are running at 250, 175, and 150 beautifully. The only one with a HW error is #3, and that is HW:2 in the same 12 hours. I am calling them all stable.

I run a separate cgminer instance for each one. Why?
I control each one independently. But why?
One reason is I do not have another fan to fit in this area comfortably yet and I want to overclock. So I keep the fan pointed straight on stick #2 while I have it connected to my usb power monitor. I can hold my fingers on it indefinitely at 300. I am pulling 1.36 amps @ 4.92 volts.
I think I am hitting the ceiling of where this hub will reach and be stable.

All of the other sticks stay operational, on the same PC, and I can do whatever I want with this one, or any other individual stick.
I have a Y cable I found on Amazon. IT wasn't an easy find, it was hard work, and cost me ten bucks, but I wanted it sooner than the slow boat from China. This one was prime as well, so no shipping and received it in two (actually three but I'm not arguing with them) business days. IT is supposed to be here tomorrow, and then I can really see whatsup. I will get another fan ready today.

At the moment I have them all set to balanced between ck solo and my main kano account, but this is only temporary fooling around because balanced has never worked as well as it should on my main mining rigs, so I do not expect it to start working now. By not working I mean if I add the hash from the two balanced pools I never reach what I get solo to either one. I plan to go back to a failover setting once I collect enough data to be happy with my theory that sticks suffer the same problem.

Overall, running the separate instance is giving me freedom with one good hub. Klintays hubs are probably better, I think they go to 2 amps per port if you do not populate them all, but again, once I made up my mind, I wanted it yesterday, so I went with this used Anker. Helluva deal, and it is USB3, which I know doesn't matter to most, but in my thinking true USB3 is future proof for other projects, provides 900 ma per port at the minimum. I am running it on a USB2 port on the same laptop stick #1 is running on.

This USB power measuring device has a reading in the bottom right corner and describes it as capacitance. I'm not sure what this is telling me yet. Don't get me wrong, I know what capacitance and a capacitor are, I simply do not know what they are telling me in this context, yet.
Here are some pics. The first is a bit blurry, sorry.

(cut pic's to save space)

I want one of Klintays 19 port hubs and another 15 sticks to play with.
I am so jealous of you guys who were around during the days when this was the way to mine, or GPUs, or CPUs.
This is the kind of stuff that teaches people things, you never reach the end of possibilities due to your cash availability.
This can start someone down the road of dreaming big and eventually doing big, while providing the experience on a small scale.

For the young people out there, look at this as something to add to your arsenal of skill sets. The future is software and electronics engineering. Grab anything you love in either of those two fields and run with it.

Actually planing to try this out on the Pi.

If I got it figured right, the hub that I'm using now, should be able to do 2 sticks (maybe 3) at freq 275 and then the other 3 sticks (or 2 if I do the 3 at 275) at ~freq 175 and still be far enough below maxed out, that it shouldn't burn up and for the balanced reason also. Balanced works, but like you said the numbers never add up just right and 1 pool always seems to lag behind. Right now trying the load-balanced out to see how it does.

One question though, did you use the same worker name on all of them or do you do worker.1, worker.2 (if your using the same pools)?

[Ecnad]

I have an extra Raspberry pi Model B (not pi2) if anyone needs it to try running sticks on. Pi and edonkey's minera image was crazy easy and effective for me