BM1384 Pod Miner plus trade-in/recycling - an interest and feasibility poll

[Morguk]

I assume Sidehack is busy making/shipping the compacs first, before more news for the pod.

[zOU]

Also, since the prototype pod is probably the last thing I'll do with BM1384, I'll probably start a new thread at some point since the old BM1384 Project Dev thread will be kinda defunct. But I may be working with new stuff sometime soon so when I have something worth saying I'll start a fresh thread to say it.

[Morguk]

Also, since the prototype pod is probably the last thing I'll do with BM1384, I'll probably start a new thread at some point since the old BM1384 Project Dev thread will be kinda defunct. But I may be working with new stuff sometime soon so when I have something worth saying I'll start a fresh thread to say it.

Ahh nice one, didn't see this.

[boomin]

I honestly haven't read the entire thread - but I just got some cool new toys and could possibly help with teardown.  I have a full smd rework station and wouldn't mind donating some time - either tearing down or assembling.

Let me know.

P.s. I am in Vegas

Boomin

[NotFuzzyWarm]

I honestly haven't read the entire thread - but I just got some cool new toys and could possibly help with teardown.  I have a full smd rework station and wouldn't mind donating some time - either tearing down or assembling.

Let me know.

P.s. I am in Vegas

Boomin

Send SideHack a PM on that. He's swamped with work on the pods and a project using Avalon chips. Both involve pulling parts from boards and remounting on new boards.

[sidehack]

But the best part about pulling parts and remounting is it's pretty easy when you have a reflow oven and a putty knife and a pick-and-place machine.

At this point, pods as they've been discussed in this thread are basically deceased. The chips I can use are either about to be two generations behind, unavaiable, or have no datasheet. For now the pod as it is in this thread might be repurposed as a testbed for a new project but with the diff where it's going, it'll be hard to make a BM1385/A3218 pod feasible let alone a BM1384.

[VirosaGITS]

But the best part about pulling parts and remounting is it's pretty easy when you have a reflow oven and a putty knife and a pick-and-place machine.

At this point, pods as they've been discussed in this thread are basically deceased. The chips I can use are either about to be two generations behind, unavaiable, or have no datasheet. For now the pod as it is in this thread might be repurposed as a testbed for a new project but with the diff where it's going, it'll be hard to make a BM1385/A3218 pod feasible let alone a BM1384.

Ahh, i still have that (your extra) S5 board you sent me by accident. What do i do with it?

If you make some pods i still dont mind doing a trade in of S5/S1/AMTubes boards. But i understand that from a development standpoint it might not be worth the production costs.

[RichBC]

I'd be willing to shell out a premium for custom BM1385 Pods using old antminer u3's.  Love your work I've got 5 of your compaqs!

A BM1385 Pod from a U3 would indeed be a great achievement. 

[notlist3d]

But the best part about pulling parts and remounting is it's pretty easy when you have a reflow oven and a putty knife and a pick-and-place machine.

At this point, pods as they've been discussed in this thread are basically deceased. The chips I can use are either about to be two generations behind, unavaiable, or have no datasheet. For now the pod as it is in this thread might be repurposed as a testbed for a new project but with the diff where it's going, it'll be hard to make a BM1385/A3218 pod feasible let alone a BM1384.

Ahh, i still have that (your extra) S5 board you sent me by accident. What do i do with it?

If you make some pods i still dont mind doing a trade in of S5/S1/AMTubes boards. But i understand that from a development standpoint it might not be worth the production costs.

I hope he does it as I really like his work.  But I think S1/AM tubes are not going to be big on list of needs (unless from componets he needs), I just don't see chips being that great.

The good news for the project is bitcoin difficulty is going crazy.  Which is bad for miners.   But likely means S3's and S5's will only get cheaper and if difficulty keeps going like it is hard to say what cost would be in a month even.   So the good news is possibly cheaper miners with decent chips.   But granted they still are not the latest and greatest chips.

[VirosaGITS]

But the best part about pulling parts and remounting is it's pretty easy when you have a reflow oven and a putty knife and a pick-and-place machine.

At this point, pods as they've been discussed in this thread are basically deceased. The chips I can use are either about to be two generations behind, unavaiable, or have no datasheet. For now the pod as it is in this thread might be repurposed as a testbed for a new project but with the diff where it's going, it'll be hard to make a BM1385/A3218 pod feasible let alone a BM1384.

Ahh, i still have that (your extra) S5 board you sent me by accident. What do i do with it?

If you make some pods i still dont mind doing a trade in of S5/S1/AMTubes boards. But i understand that from a development standpoint it might not be worth the production costs.

I hope he does it as I really like his work.  But I think S1/AM tubes are not going to be big on list of needs (unless from componets he needs), I just don't see chips being that great.

The good news for the project is bitcoin difficulty is going crazy.  Which is bad for miners.   But likely means S3's and S5's will only get cheaper and if difficulty keeps going like it is hard to say what cost would be in a month even.   So the good news is possibly cheaper miners with decent chips.   But granted they still are not the latest and greatest chips.

Yeah he said he needed the S1/AMT for the solid state caps and such. And that the S1 had more needed components than he expected. But the thing is its not very motivating to do this work when the pods would no longer really ROI.

Its too bad because i know pods would still be okay. I mean look at people still buying U3 just because they're quiet and they're run on free electricity. But its pretty niche now, i guess.

Personally i still want them, but *shrug*. Price wise it might be a bit icky.

[sidehack]

If I do 'em it won't be with BM1384. Too tired.

[zOU]

I mean look at people still buying U3 just because they're quiet and they're run on free electricity.

why would U3 electricity be free ?

[notlist3d]

But the best part about pulling parts and remounting is it's pretty easy when you have a reflow oven and a putty knife and a pick-and-place machine.

At this point, pods as they've been discussed in this thread are basically deceased. The chips I can use are either about to be two generations behind, unavaiable, or have no datasheet. For now the pod as it is in this thread might be repurposed as a testbed for a new project but with the diff where it's going, it'll be hard to make a BM1385/A3218 pod feasible let alone a BM1384.

Ahh, i still have that (your extra) S5 board you sent me by accident. What do i do with it?

If you make some pods i still dont mind doing a trade in of S5/S1/AMTubes boards. But i understand that from a development standpoint it might not be worth the production costs.

I hope he does it as I really like his work.  But I think S1/AM tubes are not going to be big on list of needs (unless from componets he needs), I just don't see chips being that great.

The good news for the project is bitcoin difficulty is going crazy.  Which is bad for miners.   But likely means S3's and S5's will only get cheaper and if difficulty keeps going like it is hard to say what cost would be in a month even.   So the good news is possibly cheaper miners with decent chips.   But granted they still are not the latest and greatest chips.

Yeah he said he needed the S1/AMT for the solid state caps and such. And that the S1 had more needed components than he expected. But the thing is its not very motivating to do this work when the pods would no longer really ROI.

Its too bad because i know pods would still be okay. I mean look at people still buying U3 just because they're quiet and they're run on free electricity. But its pretty niche now, i guess.

Personally i still want them, but *shrug*. Price wise it might be a bit icky.

I can't figure out why people still pay so much for U3's.  I bought from crazy guy and eventually got R1 to control them with Crazy Guy's custom firmware.  I played with them for a month or two and i lost interest.  I actually made ROI by selling for some reason people  still pay decent on U3's or did during time I sold.

I am waiting to see if the pod happens I would add one maybe a few to play with.  I still would like to see a company sell current gen chips to Sidehack.  Would love if he got support and we see a pod with it.

[zOU]

I can't figure out why people still pay so much for U3's.  I bought from crazy guy and eventually got R1 to control them with Crazy Guy's custom firmware.  I played with them for a month or two and i lost interest.  I actually made ROI by selling for some reason people  still pay decent on U3's or did during time I sold.

I am waiting to see if the pod happens I would add one maybe a few to play with.  I still would like to see a company sell current gen chips to Sidehack.  Would love if he got support and we see a pod with it.

i get some pretty good "bestshares" from my U3 compared to my others miners.

[Mikestang]

If the U3 actually worked as intended with no problems it would have been a fun little machine.  That's where the gekko pod comes in.  We all know it will work and we can surmise that, with today's better tech, it will work faster and more efficiently than the U3.  I really look forward to these pods being released.

[VirosaGITS]

But the best part about pulling parts and remounting is it's pretty easy when you have a reflow oven and a putty knife and a pick-and-place machine.

At this point, pods as they've been discussed in this thread are basically deceased. The chips I can use are either about to be two generations behind, unavaiable, or have no datasheet. For now the pod as it is in this thread might be repurposed as a testbed for a new project but with the diff where it's going, it'll be hard to make a BM1385/A3218 pod feasible let alone a BM1384.

Ahh, i still have that (your extra) S5 board you sent me by accident. What do i do with it?

If you make some pods i still dont mind doing a trade in of S5/S1/AMTubes boards. But i understand that from a development standpoint it might not be worth the production costs.

I hope he does it as I really like his work.  But I think S1/AM tubes are not going to be big on list of needs (unless from componets he needs), I just don't see chips being that great.

The good news for the project is bitcoin difficulty is going crazy.  Which is bad for miners.   But likely means S3's and S5's will only get cheaper and if difficulty keeps going like it is hard to say what cost would be in a month even.   So the good news is possibly cheaper miners with decent chips.   But granted they still are not the latest and greatest chips.

Yeah he said he needed the S1/AMT for the solid state caps and such. And that the S1 had more needed components than he expected. But the thing is its not very motivating to do this work when the pods would no longer really ROI.

Its too bad because i know pods would still be okay. I mean look at people still buying U3 just because they're quiet and they're run on free electricity. But its pretty niche now, i guess.

Personally i still want them, but *shrug*. Price wise it might be a bit icky.

I can't figure out why people still pay so much for U3's.  I bought from crazy guy and eventually got R1 to control them with Crazy Guy's custom firmware.  I played with them for a month or two and i lost interest.  I actually made ROI by selling for some reason people  still pay decent on U3's or did during time I sold.

I am waiting to see if the pod happens I would add one maybe a few to play with.  I still would like to see a company sell current gen chips to Sidehack.  Would love if he got support and we see a pod with it.

I dont know. Why do people buy sidehack sticks for 25-40USD?

Maybe some people see them as lottery tickets. I got one as a toy, and if you run 100 of them on free electricity, then i guess you have a silent 1TH/s that makes 0 noise. Depending on the heat density.

[abeandund]

I am waiting to see if the pod happens I would add one maybe a few to play with.  I still would like to see a company sell current gen chips to Sidehack.  Would love if he got support and we see a pod with it.
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I dont know. Why do people buy sidehack sticks for 25-40USD?

Maybe some people see them as lottery tickets. I got one as a toy, and if you run 100 of them on free electricity, then i guess you have a silent 1TH/s that makes 0 noise. Depending on the heat density.
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The community is supporting the gekko guys.  For one they make good stuff secondly if there ever is going to be a small scale miner for a hobbiest it will most likely come from these guys.

Somewhere previously stated that batches will most likely be bought by resellers making this stick an attractive introductory miner to learn on.  For roughly the same money is a newbie going to buy 2-5 gh miner when there is an 8+ gh option out there to get your feet wet with?

If bitcoin ever hopes for decentralization it will take new blood getting into the game.  With that being said what does it matter if they sell a "toy" or multi Terahash rig that only the hard core players can obtain?  Still need peoples to buy and operate the machines and    might as well learn on a stick vs. outdated used machinery. 

Hopefully these guys can obtain new tech chips and develop a miner in the future.  That's why we check this this particular thread.

[toptek]

The community is supporting the gekko guys.  For one they make good stuff secondly if there ever is going to be a small scale miner for a hobbiest it will most likely come from these guys.

That was why i do or did:)

[sidehack]

So, question. If I chucked out a dozen or so pods that hooked up to an S5 controller (via the regular 18-pin cable, including temp readings), with 8x BM1384 under a Freezer7 cooler, with manual voltage control and a simple LED bar graph voltage readout corresponding roughly to 25mV node-level increments, would they sell at about $75 apiece? Note this does not include an S5 controller, but with the right firmware and cabling one S5 controller could hook up to 4 boards. I'm sending out for a batch of prototype PCBs of some stuff next week and want to know if it's worth it.

[cavaliersrus]

if i had a s5 controler i would