2024 NBA Season

[jakelyson]

It is rarely happening but due to the achievements of these players, they're demanding and want to be comfortable with what they've got. I guess this is a hot pot now and a lot to say about this issue. Well, if Steph asks for a trade, the management won't allow it for sure.

There is nothing that would merit Steph to ask for a trade. I believe the team is very solid right now and he is getting all the things he needs from the management. I believe the shot from Draymond is just a fishing expedition to get a max contract and Steph is just supporting Draymond as a good teammate would do. But if push comes to shoves, Steph is way better and comfortable to stay with the warriors. And he have more chance to still be successful in this team, late in his career, than anywhere else. So moving out of Warriors is just a bad move.

I think it's common amongst great organization, even the Bulls during their second championship run, Jordan and Pippen has issues with Bulls general manager, Jerry Krause. And yet they were able to make a second 3peat. Didn't request for a trade because it's almost non-existent that time. But now we have cases like the Ben Simmons and Kyrie Irving drama, and then Durant requesting a trade. If Curry or Green do the same, then the Warriors will break apart. And that's how dynasty's are broken. Sooner or later there will be issues that the management and players disagree.

Back in the day, the team has more control over their stars. Unlike right now, the stars control the team. They've given them power to influence acquisition and over the coaches. Sometimes it is good because you keep the stars happy and you get a ring out of it but sometimes it backfires. Durant the best example of giving the stars too much power that went bad. Now the Nets is filled with divas. 

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[Baofeng]

So the Brooklyn Nets is demanding more returns on a KD trade not just because the Utah Jazz and San Antonio Spurs received a lot of pieces from their Rudy Gobert and Dejounte Murray trades but because it is still hoping to keep Durant. But I don't think KD will want to stay in Brooklyn with Irving and Simmons. Brooklyn should prioritize trading these 2 drama queens and maybe KD will want to stay with them.

It's really hard to read what Nets plan is for now, it seems they are willing to let go of Durant and Irving but have to keep Simmons for now.

Yes, the Nets are going to demand more returns for KD, if they are going to let go of him, for sure they will want to have at least a good returns. However, we still don't know what will be Durant's destination. Still a lot of complication that the Nets will have to iron out.

And it's the Rudy Gobert affect as well, if he went out with 4 first-round picks and a pick swap, for sure Brooklyn wanted more in return.

[yazher]

Back in the day, the team has more control over their stars. Unlike right now, the stars control the team. They've given them power to influence acquisition and over the coaches. Sometimes it is good because you keep the stars happy and you get a ring out of it but sometimes it backfires. Durant the best example of giving the stars too much power that went bad. Now the Nets is filled with divas. 

Yeah! they made the trade more like dramas where the players can actually push to ask for a trade for their personal reasons and most likely players are not patient enough to fix their team and demand to be traded as soon as possible. Just because they are not getting some open door for a chance to win a championship they wanted to be traded right away but the problem here is, when they go to their new team, even though they are star players themselves, they also need to create a strong bond with their new teammates to make their team strong and be competitive to have a chance to compete for a championship and if they failed once again, those players likely demand for another trade. that's why we have these trade dramas nowadays.

[püsür]

Back in the day, the team has more control over their stars. Unlike right now, the stars control the team. They've given them power to influence acquisition and over the coaches. Sometimes it is good because you keep the stars happy and you get a ring out of it but sometimes it backfires. Durant the best example of giving the stars too much power that went bad. Now the Nets is filled with divas. 

Yeah! they made the trade more like dramas where the players can actually push to ask for a trade for their personal reasons and most likely players are not patient enough to fix their team and demand to be traded as soon as possible. Just because they are not getting some open door for a chance to win a championship they wanted to be traded right away but the problem here is, when they go to their new team, even though they are star players themselves, they also need to create a strong bond with their new teammates to make their team strong and be competitive to have a chance to compete for a championship and if they failed once again, those players likely demand for another trade. that's why we have these trade dramas nowadays.

I agree with this comment completely. There is really too much trade dramas these days. And especially Durant. Starting from his move from OKC to Warriors, almost every season we hear about Durant and where he wants to go, what he demands. I sometimes miss the good old franchise player days. Mj, Ewing, Drexler, Barkley, Iverson, T-Mac, Kobe, Vince Carter. Even though they were maybe not too happy with the team and the city, I don't remember this much trade talk(might be because of internet of course, but still). And naturally those players I mentioned moved on to other teams, they were quite big franchise players at the their time and we didn't have to hear and watch too much drama. And this makes me feel like Durant will find team chemistry very hardly wherever he goes, even though he is almost the best player in the league. There are other aspects to success.

[Reid]

So what would happen, is Curry trying to threaten the organization that there could be a conflict if they will not give Draymond's demand? I think the organization knows what they are doing, though in a team we have some superstars who are just working for the team, they are paid by the management and they have to respect the decision of the management.

The conflict between players is common, but the conflict between players and management, that's very rare.

Yes, that's the case. It's like Curry won't be as as effective as he would be without Draymond Green.
We all doubt that but that's like a protection for players he don't want to leave.
Although, I want to urge this to happen. Let Draymond go and see where they will be at. It's not that I want the to be broken but this kind of selfishness should be penalized.
He things he is a player that Warriors won't be effective without him.
Let him go and see if that's really the way it is. Why? Because I highly doubt he cannot be replaced.

[rhomelmabini]

So the Brooklyn Nets is demanding more returns on a KD trade not just because the Utah Jazz and San Antonio Spurs received a lot of pieces from their Rudy Gobert and Dejounte Murray trades but because it is still hoping to keep Durant. But I don't think KD will want to stay in Brooklyn with Irving and Simmons. Brooklyn should prioritize trading these 2 drama queens and maybe KD will want to stay with them.

Well, Durant is a superstar and the Nets just want more something in return for that. How about both KD and Irving separate ways already as they are the ones demanding this trade in the first place? I think with Simmons still out indefinitely I guess the management will let him stay there unless there are other team/s that want him which I doubt if there are many.

[Velvet78]

So the Brooklyn Nets is demanding more returns on a KD trade not just because the Utah Jazz and San Antonio Spurs received a lot of pieces from their Rudy Gobert and Dejounte Murray trades but because it is still hoping to keep Durant. But I don't think KD will want to stay in Brooklyn with Irving and Simmons. Brooklyn should prioritize trading these 2 drama queens and maybe KD will want to stay with them.

It can be seen as normal for Nets to wait for a big benefit if they will trade Kevin Durant to a team. He is their most valuable player in the end. When it comes to Irving and Simmons, Irving is already willing to leave actually so it is up to the choice of the team whether to take action about it. It hasn't been much time since Simmons joined the team so I don't think that they will re-trade him now. Him and Seth Curry would stay for at least one more season imo.

[OgNasty]

Rest In Peace to Bill Russell. One of the best champions to ever grace the NBA court. This news will no doubt be heartbreaking to the NBA family and I’m sure the Celtics and the NBA as a whole will be dedicating this upcoming season to the legend. There will be one hell of a tribute to Bill. He was the definition of winning and a team player during his time in the league with the Celtics. A legend for sure.

[dwminer1]

Rest In Peace to Bill Russell. One of the best champions to ever grace the NBA court. This news will no doubt be heartbreaking to the NBA family and I’m sure the Celtics and the NBA as a whole will be dedicating this upcoming season to the legend. There will be one hell of a tribute to Bill. He was the definition of winning and a team player during his time in the league with the Celtics. A legend for sure.

Very sad news. A brilliant basketball player and a great man. I suspect no one will ever beat his record - 11 championship rings. RIP Bill.

[Viscore]

So all of a sudden, Draymond Green becomes the center of attention the last few days. Now there's more. He wants a 4-year max contract extension. This means he will be paid $164 million for the next 5 years or around $33 million per year. His current contract would be $25.8 million for the next season and a player option worth $28.5 million in the following season. Draymond is too full of himself. Although he is a very important piece of the team, he is starting to decline with his low stats performance in the last season.

And Draymond also mentioned that he is willing to explore offers from other teams should the Warriors' management not be interested in a max contract extension. Do you guys think Draymond is worth that max extension? His current stats are not even worth his current contract if I were to say, but I got it, the management do not want to break the team's core.      

Due to their good chemistry, I think he deserves to have a max contract because he is a big part of the success of the Warriors. Though his performance has declined there are some games that he really contributes big to win. It's not only about the stats IMO, it's more about the impact in the team, and we cannot deny that without Draymond, the Warriors defense will struggle.

Draymond is one of the most confident people within the Warriors team and yeah, he's definitely a big part in the previous success of Warriors. So i guess its not impossible if he can have that max contract. After all, the team needs his potentials and without him as part of Warriors, that will be another loss of the team. Just imagine if he'll be playing in another team, then let's anticipate that Warriors will face another struggle to replace Green just as relevant as him.

[el kaka22]

It is terrible to learn Bill Russell passed away. If we need to feel any good about this, he came from nothing, lived 88 years, won 11 rings, he was there when Black people couldn't even eat in certain places, and lived through 2 terms of Obama being president, and he helped all the young kids that came in after him for 5 decades and he has fmvp named after him.

I know that it is always sad whenever one person passes away from this world, but if you were to ask someone if they would take his place? 99.999% of the population would say yes without a question, which tells me he lived a very filled life that was enjoyable and he passes away from that world knowing that he lived a great one that marked something major before he left it.

[Yogee]

....But I don't think KD will want to stay in Brooklyn with Irving and Simmons. Brooklyn should prioritize trading these 2 drama queens and maybe KD will want to stay with them.

Wasn't it because KD knew he won't be playing with Irving that's why he requested the trade? Kyrie opted in to his over $30 million deal and expecting to be traded. Kevin asked the owner to be traded after that. It's more like he doesn't want to carry a heavy load so he runs and look for a better opportunity.

 

[Captain Corporate]

Awww man, I reallly didn't want to go to bad knowing the legend passed away. I mean it surely is less of a shock than Kobe news, dude is 88, Kobe was 40, but these legends passing away is certainly a sad situation. We are coming to an age where we are going to keep seeing more and more of them passing aren't we? I mean basketball is certainly not something that is good for your health to begin with and reaching to 88 is a marvelous achievement. We already lost so many legends, and one of the biggest ever ones just passed away. I really damn hope we get to see our childhood ones a lot more at least, I am not ready for that yet.

[agustina2]

Wasn't it because KD knew he won't be playing with Irving that's why he requested the trade? Kyrie opted in to his over $30 million deal and expecting to be traded. Kevin asked the owner to be traded after that. It's more like he doesn't want to carry a heavy load so he runs and look for a better opportunity.

Definitely no but it's the other way around. He played with Kyrie last playoffs and they didn't even win once against the Boston Celtics in the playoffs. It means even if Kyrie Irving will stay on the team, he will still take and carry the heavy load. Their combination is not effective. There is also no help from the other Nets squad.

Kevin Durant is not the type of player that can carry a team. He is not the same as Steph Curry, Lebron James, or Giannis Antetokoumpo that is proven that can lift the team even if their teammates are not doing well in a game.

[jossiel]

It is terrible to learn Bill Russell passed away. If we need to feel any good about this, he came from nothing, lived 88 years, won 11 rings, he was there when Black people couldn't even eat in certain places, and lived through 2 terms of Obama being president, and he helped all the young kids that came in after him for 5 decades and he has fmvp named after him.

I know that it is always sad whenever one person passes away from this world, but if you were to ask someone if they would take his place? 99.999% of the population would say yes without a question, which tells me he lived a very filled life that was enjoyable and he passes away from that world knowing that he lived a great one that marked something major before he left it.

I have heard him before but I wasn't really a fan until I've heard his achievements and what he has got. He certainly is a legend and many have him inspired with his greatness and journey.

The whole NBA fandom is mourning every time a legend passes away, it's not just the fans but also the whole community and management. I guess 3-4 great generations of NBA that he has managed to go along with by my estimation or more than that.

Rest in peace, Bill!

[agustina2]

It's not only about the stats IMO, it's more about the impact in the team, and we cannot deny that without Draymond, the Warriors defense will struggle.

If it's about the impact and even stats are low, therefore there should be lots of players who deserved to be on the max contact.

My question to you is, please name a player that was given a max contract that doesn't have good stats but only an impact on a team.

Max contract does have requirements for one to be eligible. The impact is passive stats. It's not stated on the max contract terms to become eligible.

[Baofeng]

Just sad to hear that one of the legends of basketball has passed away. Majority of us didn't see how Bill Russell play, but sure we have some old videos on YT and of course, his magical run with the Boston Celtics will not be matched, I think that record will be untouchable - won 11 NBA championships.

And not that only Russell is great in court, but during his prime, America was still in racial segregation. And he had fought very hard in that era, 50's-60's. For sure the whole Celtics organization are mourning the passing of the legend.

And early this year, his Game-worn, autographed Bill Russell jersey sells for $1 million.

[rhomelmabini]

Rest easy Bill Russell you're one hell of a player I or most of us admire, not because you got those rings but you're one of the reason that shape the NBA on what it is right now.

Just sad to hear that one of the legends of basketball has passed away. Majority of us didn't see how Bill Russell play, but sure we have some old videos on YT and of course, his magical run with the Boston Celtics will not be matched, I think that record will be untouchable - won 11 NBA championships.

Imagine you only played 13 seasons but you win 11 rings, that's really an untouchable record in the NBA and I doubt even in the next century to come would even beat that.

[agustina2]

And he had fought very hard in that era, 50's-60's.

He won 11 championships during the era you have mentioned and 8 of those were straight. Boston Celtics are the dominant team in that years. He also has good support from his teammates. Other teams are not that good and only a few teams are playing back on that years.

I'm not sure if we can consider that a hard era for him. It's just that he is a great player and will always be remembered.

His name was always heard if being GOAT depends on the number of winning titles as that was the most reason by GOAT debaters.

[jakelyson]

So what would happen, is Curry trying to threaten the organization that there could be a conflict if they will not give Draymond's demand? I think the organization knows what they are doing, though in a team we have some superstars who are just working for the team, they are paid by the management and they have to respect the decision of the management.

The conflict between players is common, but the conflict between players and management, that's very rare.

Yes, that's the case. It's like Curry won't be as as effective as he would be without Draymond Green.
We all doubt that but that's like a protection for players he don't want to leave.
Although, I want to urge this to happen. Let Draymond go and see where they will be at. It's not that I want the to be broken but this kind of selfishness should be penalized.
He things he is a player that Warriors won't be effective without him.
Let him go and see if that's really the way it is. Why? Because I highly doubt he cannot be replaced.

Or do something like the Suns did to Ayton. Let him out in the market and make a counter offer. At least you will know how much other teams think his value will be and you will save some money also if other teams did not give him max. Let him learn from the market how much is he really worth.

Imagine you only played 13 seasons but you win 11 rings, that's really an untouchable record in the NBA and I doubt even in the next century to come would even beat that.

No one will ever beat that record. The competition now is very high that it is very hard to even get a championship let alone 11 rings.

Rest in peace Bill Russell.