2025 NBA Season

[eagleman]

Here's my opinion about the final deal of the Kyrie Irving trade;

Who won the deal for me? First of all, we can't say 100% what those players involved in the trade will contribute to their respective team this upcoming season. Maybe there will be a surprises. For me, the winner of the trade is Cleveland Cavaliers.

Why?

-Isiah Thomas plays very well last season. He is one of the reason why Celtics clinched the Eastern Conference top spot. Couldn't imagined Celtics gave up this guy. Include also the contribution of Jae Crowder in terms of defense and ability to dominate the make points in the paint. Cavaliers need this type of guys in case of Lebron dissappearance in the upcoming seasons.

-Cavaliers also get the rights to acquired the Brooklyn Nets' 2018 unprotected first-round pick.

-I see, it will be a good blend as IT and Lebron have different playing style. Plus the fact that they also enhance their Big Man's lineup which Cavs really needs.

The downside; IT will be free agent next season and I don't see he will accept a max contract to the Cavaliers. Lebron also not sure if he will stay at the Cavs.

I knew it that the Cavs will never let their trades on the lower part. They have to win all the time with their trades.
And they had the best deal for this season for getting Isaiah Thomas.

[peter0425]

While i certainly think that the trade worked out for both teams, Cleveland got the better hand here. Not only do they get a scorer whose offensive game is as potent as Kyrie's, but they also got a decent defender in Crowder.

However, Kyrie can now take Boston to the next level if he is take his offensive game up a notch . What do you guys think about Bostons offence now?

I really thought thathat Kyrie Irving would have gotten over his pride and stayed at the team, I don't know how the move to Boston Celtics is going to affect his career in total. I really don't want the Golden State Warriors to win the NBA championship next season and with Kyrie gone I doubt the Cavaliers can challenge properly.

No. the damage on his relationship with Lebron has been done and no amount of persuading will keep him from playing with the Cavs. I think this is already brewing last year because they have a losing streak around March and I though that something must be wrong with the team although they reach the championship, but evidently it was already shown in that series with GSW. Let us wait and see how Kyrie then carry the Boston Celtics.

[Dammitt]

In order to avoid being in the shadow of Irving, I think it's like a giant and solid exchange in this process that kept the path to Boston. This season again my favorite golden state in my eye.

[chaser15]

While i certainly think that the trade worked out for both teams, Cleveland got the better hand here. Not only do they get a scorer whose offensive game is as potent as Kyrie's, but they also got a decent defender in Crowder.

However, Kyrie can now take Boston to the next level if he is take his offensive game up a notch . What do you guys think about Bostons offence now?

I really thought thathat Kyrie Irving would have gotten over his pride and stayed at the team, I don't know how the move to Boston Celtics is going to affect his career in total. I really don't want the Golden State Warriors to win the NBA championship next season and with Kyrie gone I doubt the Cavaliers can challenge properly.

No. the damage on his relationship with Lebron has been done and no amount of persuading will keep him from playing with the Cavs. I think this is already brewing last year because they have a losing streak around March and I though that something must be wrong with the team although they reach the championship, but evidently it was already shown in that series with GSW. Let us wait and see how Kyrie then carry the Boston Celtics.

Kyrie Irving needs to appreciate what Lebron James is doing for the team. It's a shit reason for me if it's all because he don't want to be a backup. A basketball is a team of 5 and they need do work together. Clearly if that is really the reason, then it's way to arrogant that his goal is he must lead the team. Then show it and carry Boston Celtics into stardom.

He has greater stats than Isiah Thomas and it's a shame if they can't land even on playoffs like what he experienced when he still owned the Cavaliers from 2011-2013.

[cicciobtc]

While i certainly think that the trade worked out for both teams, Cleveland got the better hand here. Not only do they get a scorer whose offensive game is as potent as Kyrie's, but they also got a decent defender in Crowder.

However, Kyrie can now take Boston to the next level if he is take his offensive game up a notch . What do you guys think about Bostons offence now?

I really thought thathat Kyrie Irving would have gotten over his pride and stayed at the team, I don't know how the move to Boston Celtics is going to affect his career in total. I really don't want the Golden State Warriors to win the NBA championship next season and with Kyrie gone I doubt the Cavaliers can challenge properly.

No. the damage on his relationship with Lebron has been done and no amount of persuading will keep him from playing with the Cavs. I think this is already brewing last year because they have a losing streak around March and I though that something must be wrong with the team although they reach the championship, but evidently it was already shown in that series with GSW. Let us wait and see how Kyrie then carry the Boston Celtics.

Kyrie Irving needs to appreciate what Lebron James is doing for the team. It's a shit reason for me if it's all because he don't want to be a backup. A basketball is a team of 5 and they need do work together. Clearly if that is really the reason, then it's way to arrogant that his goal is he must lead the team. Then show it and carry Boston Celtics into stardom.

He has greater stats than Isiah Thomas and it's a shame if they can't land even on playoffs like what he experienced when he still owned the Cavaliers from 2011-2013.

I think it's really an interesting trade! Both teams have earned this trade especially because the players will be even more motivated in the new team! Boston vs cleveland will almost certainly be the conference final!

[agustina2]

I think it's really an interesting trade! Both teams have earned this trade especially because the players will be even more motivated in the new team! Boston vs cleveland will almost certainly be the conference final!

For now, Boston and Cleveland have big chance to meet again at the finals.

But let's not forget that some of the East teams are having a big modifications as of now which the process is still incomplete providing it still more months to go before the season opening. Miami Heat, Chicago Bulls, Toronto Wizards and Washington Wizards are some of the teams to watched at East that expecting to have a surprising changed in their lineup. I didn't include New York Knicks since there is still no clear path for Carmelo Anthony.

[Vasilije69]

Wow, interesting trade between Celtics and Cavs. On one hand, maybe Celtics gave too much for Irving, but on other hand Celtics in Irving got experienced all star player who is, to be honest, much better player than Isiah Thomas. Anyway, very very interesting trade! Looking forward to new season!

[harizen]

Wow, interesting trade between Celtics and Cavs. On one hand, maybe Celtics gave too much for Irving, but on other hand Celtics in Irving got experienced all star player who is, to be honest, much better player than Isiah Thomas. Anyway, very very interesting trade! Looking forward to new season!

It's not about the comparison of Irving and Thomas performance, it's about destroying the current system of Celtics. No matter how good Irving is, IT already knows the Celtics system that why he able to carry the team into playoffs. He already knows the caliber of his teammate. It's the same as destroying your championship lineup like what Cuban did into my favorite team Dallas the next season after they won a championship last 2011.

Crowder and IT's good performance are some of the reasons why Celtics reached the East 1st spot passing Cleveland Cavaliers this last season.

[Vasilije69]

Wow, interesting trade between Celtics and Cavs. On one hand, maybe Celtics gave too much for Irving, but on other hand Celtics in Irving got experienced all star player who is, to be honest, much better player than Isiah Thomas. Anyway, very very interesting trade! Looking forward to new season!

It's not about the comparison of Irving and Thomas performance, it's about destroying the current system of Celtics. No matter how good Irving is, IT already knows the Celtics system that why he able to carry the team into playoffs. He already knows the caliber of his teammate. It's the same as destroying your championship lineup like what Cuban did into my favorite team Dallas the next season after they won a championship last 2011.

Crowder and IT's good performance are some of the reasons why Celtics reached the East 1st spot passing Cleveland Cavaliers this last season.

Yeah, it will take some time to him to fit in lineup, but after fitting Celtics will be strong again. They have Hayward who can replace departure of Jae Crowder...

[goinmerry]

Wow, interesting trade between Celtics and Cavs. On one hand, maybe Celtics gave too much for Irving, but on other hand Celtics in Irving got experienced all star player who is, to be honest, much better player than Isiah Thomas. Anyway, very very interesting trade! Looking forward to new season!

It's not about the comparison of Irving and Thomas performance, it's about destroying the current system of Celtics. No matter how good Irving is, IT already knows the Celtics system that why he able to carry the team into playoffs. He already knows the caliber of his teammate. It's the same as destroying your championship lineup like what Cuban did into my favorite team Dallas the next season after they won a championship last 2011.

Crowder and IT's good performance are some of the reasons why Celtics reached the East 1st spot passing Cleveland Cavaliers this last season.

Yeah, it will take some time to him to fit in lineup, but after fitting Celtics will be strong again. They have Hayward who can replace departure of Jae Crowder...

Dissapointed at Celtics move. I don't know what they are thinking. They also gave up the 2018 first round pick which might be a good asset in their future roster. Isiah Thomas was the last pick of first round during 2011 draft and Kyrie is the first but now shining on the stage due to his recent performance in Boston Celtics.

Well that was management decision. Just hopefully they made a good decision out of this trade.

[Viscore]

Wow, interesting trade between Celtics and Cavs. On one hand, maybe Celtics gave too much for Irving, but on other hand Celtics in Irving got experienced all star player who is, to be honest, much better player than Isiah Thomas. Anyway, very very interesting trade! Looking forward to new season!

It's not about the comparison of Irving and Thomas performance, it's about destroying the current system of Celtics. No matter how good Irving is, IT already knows the Celtics system that why he able to carry the team into playoffs. He already knows the caliber of his teammate. It's the same as destroying your championship lineup like what Cuban did into my favorite team Dallas the next season after they won a championship last 2011.

Crowder and IT's good performance are some of the reasons why Celtics reached the East 1st spot passing Cleveland Cavaliers this last season.

Yeah, it will take some time to him to fit in lineup, but after fitting Celtics will be strong again. They have Hayward who can replace departure of Jae Crowder...

Dissapointed at Celtics move. I don't know what they are thinking. They also gave up the 2018 first round pick which might be a good asset in their future roster. Isiah Thomas was the last pick of first round during 2011 draft and Kyrie is the first but now shining on the stage due to his recent performance in Boston Celtics.

Well that was management decision. Just hopefully they made a good decision out of this trade.

One player in exchange of 3 players, that is not a good move, Irving is good but he need another superstar like Lebron to win the Finals.
If he cannot take his team to the playoff before lebron go back, then what would be the chances that he can raise the celtics team.

[lumeire]

Wow, interesting trade between Celtics and Cavs. On one hand, maybe Celtics gave too much for Irving, but on other hand Celtics in Irving got experienced all star player who is, to be honest, much better player than Isiah Thomas. Anyway, very very interesting trade! Looking forward to new season!

It's not about the comparison of Irving and Thomas performance, it's about destroying the current system of Celtics. No matter how good Irving is, IT already knows the Celtics system that why he able to carry the team into playoffs. He already knows the caliber of his teammate. It's the same as destroying your championship lineup like what Cuban did into my favorite team Dallas the next season after they won a championship last 2011.

Crowder and IT's good performance are some of the reasons why Celtics reached the East 1st spot passing Cleveland Cavaliers this last season.

Yeah, it will take some time to him to fit in lineup, but after fitting Celtics will be strong again. They have Hayward who can replace departure of Jae Crowder...

Dissapointed at Celtics move. I don't know what they are thinking. They also gave up the 2018 first round pick which might be a good asset in their future roster. Isiah Thomas was the last pick of first round during 2011 draft and Kyrie is the first but now shining on the stage due to his recent performance in Boston Celtics.

Well that was management decision. Just hopefully they made a good decision out of this trade.

One player in exchange of 3 players, that is not a good move, Irving is good but he need another superstar like Lebron to win the Finals.
If he cannot take his team to the playoff before lebron go back, then what would be the chances that he can raise the celtics team.

They're gonna make Kyrie their franchise player, so yes he's worth way that much. It would have been better if they did include a third team to offset the burden of trading him though.

[BillCoin]

Wow, interesting trade between Celtics and Cavs. On one hand, maybe Celtics gave too much for Irving, but on other hand Celtics in Irving got experienced all star player who is, to be honest, much better player than Isiah Thomas. Anyway, very very interesting trade! Looking forward to new season!

It's not about the comparison of Irving and Thomas performance, it's about destroying the current system of Celtics. No matter how good Irving is, IT already knows the Celtics system that why he able to carry the team into playoffs. He already knows the caliber of his teammate. It's the same as destroying your championship lineup like what Cuban did into my favorite team Dallas the next season after they won a championship last 2011.

Crowder and IT's good performance are some of the reasons why Celtics reached the East 1st spot passing Cleveland Cavaliers this last season.

Yeah, it will take some time to him to fit in lineup, but after fitting Celtics will be strong again. They have Hayward who can replace departure of Jae Crowder...

Dissapointed at Celtics move. I don't know what they are thinking. They also gave up the 2018 first round pick which might be a good asset in their future roster. Isiah Thomas was the last pick of first round during 2011 draft and Kyrie is the first but now shining on the stage due to his recent performance in Boston Celtics.

Well that was management decision. Just hopefully they made a good decision out of this trade.

One player in exchange of 3 players, that is not a good move, Irving is good but he need another superstar like Lebron to win the Finals.
If he cannot take his team to the playoff before lebron go back, then what would be the chances that he can raise the celtics team.

They're gonna make Kyrie their franchise player, so yes he's worth way that much. It would have been better if they did include a third team to offset the burden of trading him though.

Kyrie is a great player but I don't believe he is going to change the team in a different way other player could not.

I think that getting a center is much more important right now for the next season because Irvin can't do anything by himself at the field section.

[Theb]

Wow, interesting trade between Celtics and Cavs. On one hand, maybe Celtics gave too much for Irving, but on other hand Celtics in Irving got experienced all star player who is, to be honest, much better player than Isiah Thomas. Anyway, very very interesting trade! Looking forward to new season!

It's not about the comparison of Irving and Thomas performance, it's about destroying the current system of Celtics. No matter how good Irving is, IT already knows the Celtics system that why he able to carry the team into playoffs. He already knows the caliber of his teammate. It's the same as destroying your championship lineup like what Cuban did into my favorite team Dallas the next season after they won a championship last 2011.

Crowder and IT's good performance are some of the reasons why Celtics reached the East 1st spot passing Cleveland Cavaliers this last season.

Yeah, it will take some time to him to fit in lineup, but after fitting Celtics will be strong again. They have Hayward who can replace departure of Jae Crowder...

Dissapointed at Celtics move. I don't know what they are thinking. They also gave up the 2018 first round pick which might be a good asset in their future roster. Isiah Thomas was the last pick of first round during 2011 draft and Kyrie is the first but now shining on the stage due to his recent performance in Boston Celtics.

Well that was management decision. Just hopefully they made a good decision out of this trade.

One player in exchange of 3 players, that is not a good move, Irving is good but he need another superstar like Lebron to win the Finals.
If he cannot take his team to the playoff before lebron go back, then what would be the chances that he can raise the celtics team.

They're gonna make Kyrie their franchise player, so yes he's worth way that much. It would have been better if they did include a third team to offset the burden of trading him though.

Kyrie is a great player but I don't believe he is going to change the team in a different way other player could not.

I think that getting a center is much more important right now for the next season because Irvin can't do anything by himself at the field section.

Well in all honestly I really think that the Cleveland Cavaliers received the better end of the trade. Talking about in the long term perspective here even if Isaiah Thomas did not decide to re-sign with the Cleveland Cavaliers they will still have the Brooklyn's first round draft pick which is we all know guaranteed to be at least in the top 5 of the draft. Also the good thing about this is, if Isaiah Thomas decides to re-sign it will also make Lebron extend in the team again. In a few more years they will have a much stronger team.

[Johnny00]

Wow what a trade? Suprised since Isiah was trying to get Hayward. Definitely blockbuster 

[jossiel]

While i certainly think that the trade worked out for both teams, Cleveland got the better hand here. Not only do they get a scorer whose offensive game is as potent as Kyrie's, but they also got a decent defender in Crowder.

However, Kyrie can now take Boston to the next level if he is take his offensive game up a notch . What do you guys think about Bostons offence now?

Quite good, the deal for both teams seems to be helpful and they are happy with the trade.

And for their offense, still we I can't have an insight about this thing until I watch the play of the new roster of Boston.

When it comes to defense, yes you said it Crowder is good at it.

I'm not sure though. It is really tempting if you're offered a player of kyrie's caliber but boston just came from a really good run last season with the core that they have now. I'm not sure how this trade is going to work out for them but definitely the cavs will benefit highly from this.

Boston wants to be on the higher stage now for getting Kyrie Irving.

I don't know if they are the winner for this trade or Cleveland Cavaliers. But most of analysts here are saying that Cavs got this deal for real.

[agustina2]

Boston wants to be on the higher stage now for getting Kyrie Irving.

I don't know if they are the winner for this trade or Cleveland Cavaliers. But most of analysts here are saying that Cavs got this deal for real.

Why most people saying the Cavs won the deal?

It's because of promising players that Celtics gave up just for Kyrie Irving. Without the effort of Isiah Thomas and Jae Crowder, we can't see Boston Celtics rised again at the playoffs. IT is one of the big reason why Celtics gets to the top again and now they traded this guy without hesitation. Another one is 2018 first round pick. It may become a superstar someday but they gambled it. Once season game started, let's see if Boston Celtics also won the deal.

[Doms]

Boston wants to be on the higher stage now for getting Kyrie Irving.

I don't know if they are the winner for this trade or Cleveland Cavaliers. But most of analysts here are saying that Cavs got this deal for real.

Why most people saying the Cavs won the deal?

It's because of promising players that Celtics gave up just for Kyrie Irving. Without the effort of Isiah Thomas and Jae Crowder, we can't see Boston Celtics rised again at the playoffs. IT is one of the big reason why Celtics gets to the top again and now they traded this guy without hesitation. Another one is 2018 first round pick. It may become a superstar someday but they gambled it. Once season game started, let's see if Boston Celtics also won the deal.

We have to realize that IT4 is already 28 years old and last season's performance might have been his peak already. Also, the Celtics are not sure if they are going to give him max contract by end of next season, so rather than losing him for nothing, they got a younger player who is still in contract for the next few years. But then again, we wouldn't know how things willl really turn out until we see how the Cavs and the Celtics turn out to be 5 years from now.

[mtnsaa]

Boston wants to be on the higher stage now for getting Kyrie Irving.

I don't know if they are the winner for this trade or Cleveland Cavaliers. But most of analysts here are saying that Cavs got this deal for real.

Why most people saying the Cavs won the deal?

It's because of promising players that Celtics gave up just for Kyrie Irving. Without the effort of Isiah Thomas and Jae Crowder, we can't see Boston Celtics rised again at the playoffs. IT is one of the big reason why Celtics gets to the top again and now they traded this guy without hesitation. Another one is 2018 first round pick. It may become a superstar someday but they gambled it. Once season game started, let's see if Boston Celtics also won the deal.

We have to realize that IT4 is already 28 years old and last season's performance might have been his peak already. Also, the Celtics are not sure if they are going to give him max contract by end of next season, so rather than losing him for nothing, they got a younger player who is still in contract for the next few years. But then again, we wouldn't know how things willl really turn out until we see how the Cavs and the Celtics turn out to be 5 years from now.

I don't agree with that, IT being 28 years and reaching his prime? Come on, 28 for basketball is so young! He's playing his best years, especially a small guy like him. I do agree that he's somewhat limited because of his size but that's nothing new, so his ceiling would not be as high as other more dominant players, however that doesn't mean he can't score +20 ppg all season long, he's a very reliable scorer and a dead cold clutch one too. In that way he's very similar to Irving. I would say he's even a better defender but he's hindered by his height again, but you can't blame him for that.

Now Irving has a lot of defensive and concentration lapses, sometimes you can see he has what it takes to be a good defender (with blocks and steals) but most other times it's just baffling.

[13abyknight]

While i certainly think that the trade worked out for both teams, Cleveland got the better hand here. Not only do they get a scorer whose offensive game is as potent as Kyrie's, but they also got a decent defender in Crowder.

However, Kyrie can now take Boston to the next level if he is take his offensive game up a notch . What do you guys think about Bostons offence now?

Its already giving me chills, the offensive potential of this Celtics lineup. Kyrie himself is a monster while it comes to offense and with the likes of Avery Bradley, a highly rated shooting guard with an impressive 3P shooting record, it only gets better. Also, with the likes of Gordon Hayward and Al Horford adding to the rebounding ability, Kyrie could make use of all these good players to make it to the finals.

You forgot that the Cavs got a first round pick on next year's draft too. So the Kyrie trade did pay them off well.

In no way did I mean it was a bad trade for the Cavs, I was just talking about Boston's offensive prowess from lumeire's quote.
The trade is mutually beneficial for both teams as the Cavs got hold of IT whose a sneaky PG and combining him with the likes LeBron and you have a force to reckon with. The addition of Crowder boosts the overall defense too.