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While i certainly think that the trade worked out for both teams, Cleveland got the better hand here. Not only do they get a scorer whose offensive game is as potent as Kyrie's, but they also got a decent defender in Crowder.
However, Kyrie can now take Boston to the next level if he is take his offensive game up a notch . What do you guys think about Bostons offence now?
Its already giving me chills, the offensive potential of this Celtics lineup. Kyrie himself is a monster while it comes to offense and with the likes of Avery Bradley, a highly rated shooting guard with an impressive 3P shooting record, it only gets better. Also, with the likes of Gordon Hayward and Al Horford adding to the rebounding ability, Kyrie could make use of all these good players to make it to the finals. You forgot that the Cavs got a first round pick on next year's draft too. So the Kyrie trade did pay them off well. In no way did I mean it was a bad trade for the Cavs, I was just talking about Boston's offensive prowess from lumeire's quote. The trade is mutually beneficial for both teams as the Cavs got hold of IT whose a sneaky PG and combining him with the likes LeBron and you have a force to reckon with. The addition of Crowder boosts the overall defense too. The Celtics still don't have what it takes to compete with the Cavs so I don't think the comments from Ainge saying that they needed to upgrade after the East Finals are correct. I mean, he's right but I don't think these Celtics will give Cleveland any trouble. However as I mentioned some posts ago, what if Lebron leaves next year to a Western Conference team? I think that's what the Celtics are betting on, if that happens they will reign in the East for many years to come with this roster and up and coming young players, so in that way it was a bold and interesting move.
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August 24, 2017, 05:46:15 PM |
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Boston wants to be on the higher stage now for getting Kyrie Irving.
I don't know if they are the winner for this trade or Cleveland Cavaliers. But most of analysts here are saying that Cavs got this deal for real.
Why most people saying the Cavs won the deal? It's because of promising players that Celtics gave up just for Kyrie Irving. Without the effort of Isiah Thomas and Jae Crowder, we can't see Boston Celtics rised again at the playoffs. IT is one of the big reason why Celtics gets to the top again and now they traded this guy without hesitation. Another one is 2018 first round pick. It may become a superstar someday but they gambled it. Once season game started, let's see if Boston Celtics also won the deal. Because they want Isiah Thomas stay with Boston or something the same. We are seeing on how IT playing great for the past season although we had seen on where did Boston Celtics landed. You are right in that part, we have to see if the Boston Celtics did this deal right too for getting Kyrie Irving.
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August 24, 2017, 05:47:00 PM |
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We may see the preview of Eastern Finals since Celtics and Cavs will meet on Opening night. This will be an exciting game to watch. We will see how Kyrie will lead the celtics against his previous teammates.
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August 24, 2017, 08:02:18 PM |
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We may see the preview of Eastern Finals since Celtics and Cavs will meet on Opening night. This will be an exciting game to watch. We will see how Kyrie will lead the celtics against his previous teammates.
The happenings is really surprising and now these two teams will be meet on the opening tip off day so fans couldn't wait for long time to see how will this things goes out. Kyrie in another jersey will really makes things different. Just hoped that both Lebron James and Kyrie Irving will play on that game so that it will be more exciting how will these players will collaborate on court wearing a different uniforms.
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August 24, 2017, 10:11:29 PM |
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Boston wants to be on the higher stage now for getting Kyrie Irving.
I don't know if they are the winner for this trade or Cleveland Cavaliers. But most of analysts here are saying that Cavs got this deal for real.
Why most people saying the Cavs won the deal? It's because of promising players that Celtics gave up just for Kyrie Irving. Without the effort of Isiah Thomas and Jae Crowder, we can't see Boston Celtics rised again at the playoffs. IT is one of the big reason why Celtics gets to the top again and now they traded this guy without hesitation. Another one is 2018 first round pick. It may become a superstar someday but they gambled it. Once season game started, let's see if Boston Celtics also won the deal. Because they want Isiah Thomas stay with Boston or something the same. We are seeing on how IT playing great for the past season although we had seen on where did Boston Celtics landed. You are right in that part, we have to see if the Boston Celtics did this deal right too for getting Kyrie Irving. Isiah Thomas was expecting Boston Celtics will give him a max contract but it doesn't happened. Feel sad for him because he really expecting it that after he give great performance last season, it's like easy for Celtics to trade him in exchange for Kyrie Irving. Well Thomas must move on and show Celtics that they throw away a good caliber point guard. https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2017/08/24/lebron-james-went-on-a-twitter-rant-about-fans-burning-isaiah-thomas-jerseys
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August 24, 2017, 11:28:58 PM |
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Why fans are like that? lol. ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) Isiah Thomas have nothing to do with the trades. It was management decision. Why this fans doing shit for Isiah Thomas after all this guy did with the team. He needs respect damn those people. He was just silent after all and the only tweet he made after the trade is "Positive Vibes Only".
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August 25, 2017, 01:24:11 AM |
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Why fans are like that? lol. ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) Isiah Thomas have nothing to do with the trades. It was management decision. Why this fans doing shit for Isiah Thomas after all this guy did with the team. He needs respect damn those people. He was just silent after all and the only tweet he made after the trade is "Positive Vibes Only". that's how respectful he is mate and that's showed his attitude no matter what team he will go he is an athlete that's always ready to compete, cavs just add another caliber player which can be use against gsw they lose kyrie but they got another superstar and lebron still with them and i hope to see how thomas will improve and showcase his talent.
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Why fans are like that? lol. ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) Isiah Thomas have nothing to do with the trades. It was management decision. Why this fans doing shit for Isiah Thomas after all this guy did with the team. He needs respect damn those people. He was just silent after all and the only tweet he made after the trade is "Positive Vibes Only". that's how respectful he is mate and that's showed his attitude no matter what team he will go he is an athlete that's always ready to compete, cavs just add another caliber player which can be use against gsw they lose kyrie but they got another superstar and lebron still with them and i hope to see how thomas will improve and showcase his talent. But the question is, can Isaiah Thomas showcase his talent, his playmaking ability in Cavs? Along with James. We all know James also the one who makes a play. If he will let Thomas to do it, then there is no problem to that.
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August 25, 2017, 05:16:30 AM |
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Why fans are like that? lol. ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) Isiah Thomas have nothing to do with the trades. It was management decision. Why this fans doing shit for Isiah Thomas after all this guy did with the team. He needs respect damn those people. He was just silent after all and the only tweet he made after the trade is "Positive Vibes Only". I agree. He was not at fault at this one. Heck it even went under the radar for most basketball fans. They should give him the respect he deserves. Even most of us was caught with the sudden decision of the management to let him go because we are seeing him as the new alpha in that time. But the management has made its decision already. They want Kyrie more than Isiah and I hope they make the right decision. And far as Isiah, I think he will really give a good showing with the Cavs uniform this season and with him and Lebron as 1-2 combo, it will be a good showing for the Cavs this year.
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August 25, 2017, 05:58:19 AM |
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We may see the preview of Eastern Finals since Celtics and Cavs will meet on Opening night. This will be an exciting game to watch. We will see how Kyrie will lead the celtics against his previous teammates.
The first match of NBA will be a one sided match. Imagine boston traded many important players in their team for a self centered player like Kyrie Irving. I'm sure that we can see that Cavs will slaughter boston.
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August 25, 2017, 11:24:19 AM |
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We may see the preview of Eastern Finals since Celtics and Cavs will meet on Opening night. This will be an exciting game to watch. We will see how Kyrie will lead the celtics against his previous teammates.
The first match of NBA will be a one sided match. Imagine boston traded many important players in their team for a self centered player like Kyrie Irving. I'm sure that we can see that Cavs will slaughter boston. I see Cavaliers will win this game by 80% chance. The addition of Kyrie isn't really a big threat for them. Remember Cavs and Celtics matchup last playoffs, no Celtics player there can shutdown Lebron offense. But on the other hand, Celtics offense might improved due to Kyrie's isolation and shooting skills. Thomas doesn't need to go Isolation on this guy always as they can do some 1-1-3 zone defense to stop Kyrie from doing magic shot. Just imagined playing on the same floor, Derrick Rose = SG , IT = PG , LBJ = SF ;all are perimeter shooters. How will Celtics defend this guys without harming their center defense.
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We may see the preview of Eastern Finals since Celtics and Cavs will meet on Opening night. This will be an exciting game to watch. We will see how Kyrie will lead the celtics against his previous teammates.
The first match of NBA will be a one sided match. Imagine boston traded many important players in their team for a self centered player like Kyrie Irving. I'm sure that we can see that Cavs will slaughter boston. Pretty exciting to see what Kyrie would do to carry a team pretty much on his own.
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August 25, 2017, 07:56:05 PM |
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We may see the preview of Eastern Finals since Celtics and Cavs will meet on Opening night. This will be an exciting game to watch. We will see how Kyrie will lead the celtics against his previous teammates.
The first match of NBA will be a one sided match. Imagine boston traded many important players in their team for a self centered player like Kyrie Irving. I'm sure that we can see that Cavs will slaughter boston. What a tough first game specially for Kyrie, As I see it, it will be a good match to watch specially the first game of the NBA. Of course, Lebron and his Cavs will have the upperhand here. And I'm pretty sure that this will be an emotional game between Kyrie and IT. I can feel that IT was very disappointed by the move of the management by letting him go so he will give a good showing in this game. While Kyrie wants to prove that he can carry a team and will not be forever on Lebron's shadow. But I predicted then Lebron will show who the real 'King' is and takes over the game.
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August 25, 2017, 09:10:22 PM |
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We may see the preview of Eastern Finals since Celtics and Cavs will meet on Opening night. This will be an exciting game to watch. We will see how Kyrie will lead the celtics against his previous teammates.
The first match of NBA will be a one sided match. Imagine boston traded many important players in their team for a self centered player like Kyrie Irving. I'm sure that we can see that Cavs will slaughter boston. Pretty exciting to see what Kyrie would do to carry a team pretty much on his own. Yes, we have talked so much negative about Kyrie not able to carry to team. Let us know see if he can carry this Celtics because the argument that he is too green to lift Cavs before does not carry any weight anymore for him. He has in this league for long and now he needs to prove his detractors wrong.
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August 26, 2017, 02:23:26 AM |
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We may see the preview of Eastern Finals since Celtics and Cavs will meet on Opening night. This will be an exciting game to watch. We will see how Kyrie will lead the celtics against his previous teammates.
The first match of NBA will be a one sided match. Imagine boston traded many important players in their team for a self centered player like Kyrie Irving. I'm sure that we can see that Cavs will slaughter boston. Pretty exciting to see what Kyrie would do to carry a team pretty much on his own. Yes, we have talked so much negative about Kyrie not able to carry to team. Let us know see if he can carry this Celtics because the argument that he is too green to lift Cavs before does not carry any weight anymore for him. He has in this league for long and now he needs to prove his detractors wrong. Now is his chance to prove them all wrong. We will see this season if Kyrie can be a good leader that the boston can build a team around. And Kyrie is still very young, he can still improve a lot. We know he can score, he just needs to develop his leadership.
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August 26, 2017, 04:09:27 AM |
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We may see the preview of Eastern Finals since Celtics and Cavs will meet on Opening night. This will be an exciting game to watch. We will see how Kyrie will lead the celtics against his previous teammates.
The first match of NBA will be a one sided match. Imagine boston traded many important players in their team for a self centered player like Kyrie Irving. I'm sure that we can see that Cavs will slaughter boston. Pretty exciting to see what Kyrie would do to carry a team pretty much on his own. Yes, we have talked so much negative about Kyrie not able to carry to team. Let us know see if he can carry this Celtics because the argument that he is too green to lift Cavs before does not carry any weight anymore for him. He has in this league for long and now he needs to prove his detractors wrong. Now is his chance to prove them all wrong. We will see this season if Kyrie can be a good leader that the boston can build a team around. And Kyrie is still very young, he can still improve a lot. We know he can score, he just needs to develop his leadership. His experience is big already as he is already once a champion, we can expect there will be an improvement but the chemistry is not easily build. Remember, Boston Celtics is not the warriors, but still good to find out when they formally start.
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We may see the preview of Eastern Finals since Celtics and Cavs will meet on Opening night. This will be an exciting game to watch. We will see how Kyrie will lead the celtics against his previous teammates.
The first match of NBA will be a one sided match. Imagine boston traded many important players in their team for a self centered player like Kyrie Irving. I'm sure that we can see that Cavs will slaughter boston. Pretty exciting to see what Kyrie would do to carry a team pretty much on his own. Yes, we have talked so much negative about Kyrie not able to carry to team. Let us know see if he can carry this Celtics because the argument that he is too green to lift Cavs before does not carry any weight anymore for him. He has in this league for long and now he needs to prove his detractors wrong. Now is his chance to prove them all wrong. We will see this season if Kyrie can be a good leader that the boston can build a team around. And Kyrie is still very young, he can still improve a lot. We know he can score, he just needs to develop his leadership. His experience is big already as he is already once a champion, we can expect there will be an improvement but the chemistry is not easily build. Remember, Boston Celtics is not the warriors, but still good to find out when they formally start. IMO they've got the making for a Warriors-like team if they'll perform at the top of their game. They've got Hayward, Horford, and Kyrie on their lineup.
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The Cavaliers-Celtics deal involving Kyrie Irving and Isaiah Thomas could be on thin ice due to Thomas' hip injury. If the trade ends up badly it will be glamorous! The 2 players would play with little motivation!
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The Cavaliers-Celtics deal involving Kyrie Irving and Isaiah Thomas could be on thin ice due to Thomas' hip injury. If the trade ends up badly it will be glamorous! The 2 players would play with little motivation!
Well the Celtics are definitely in a hard spot here, at the mercy of the Cavs turning down the deal or asking for more players due to renegotiation of the deal. Most likely all blame points to Boston medical staff and Ainge, they surely knew Thomas was not fit to play, maybe even for the full season but stated it was a minor injury. The medical staff at Cleveland must found out otherwise. I think the deal will go through perhaps with some modifications but it would be the best to avoid a pretty ugly situation. If the deal falls through Irving will still get traded to the Bucks or Suns but I don't know what Boston will do with Crowder and IT...they will sure want out asap.
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