2024 NBA Season

[Captain Corporate]

 Lets be honest here, Raptors did take advantage of Kawhi but at the same time dude wasn't really all that much around during the season. Sure he played a lot of games but Raptors never really relied on Kawhi during the season. What he brought during the playoffs was the real deal, we all remember the last second shot against sixers for example, after that we can count on his amazing defense on locking up superstars as well. Nobody can deny that Kawhi was a HUGE part of raptors team last year and can go as far as saying Raptors wouldn't be champions if it wasn't for Kawhi. However teams evolve, last year they found Siakam and FVV as great contributors, they played them a lot during the season and on playoffs as well, now they are giving those two a lot more minutes, so whatever they lost with Kawhi, they sort of made it up back by the improvements of others all together instead of getting another star.

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[Theb]

Lets be honest here, Raptors did take advantage of Kawhi but at the same time dude wasn't really all that much around during the season. Sure he played a lot of games but Raptors never really relied on Kawhi during the season.

Are you even thinking what you are saying? Kawhi played  60 out of 83 regular season games for Toronto and those 60 games he played he averaged around 34 mpg and that's around 3 quarters worth of play time. You might be saying this only because Raptors are still in the 2nd seed this season but Kawhi did a lot for them, especially during the Finals where he averaged around 39 minutes proving more that he is their best player is him winning the Finals MVP during that series. It was good the Siakam and VanVleet adjusted for the team well without Kawhi and whether you agree or not he was the difference maker last season for them.

[harizen]

 Lets be honest here, Raptors did take advantage of Kawhi but at the same time dude wasn't really all that much around during the season. Sure he played a lot of games but Raptors never really relied on Kawhi during the season. What he brought during the playoffs was the real deal, we all remember the last second shot against sixers for example, after that we can count on his amazing defense on locking up superstars as well. Nobody can deny that Kawhi was a HUGE part of raptors team last year and can go as far as saying Raptors wouldn't be champions if it wasn't for Kawhi. However teams evolve, last year they found Siakam and FVV as great contributors, they played them a lot during the season and on playoffs as well, now they are giving those two a lot more minutes, so whatever they lost with Kawhi, they sort of made it up back by the improvements of others all together instead of getting another star.

Good point. I've mentioned that before too that Kawhi isn't really the main factor why Raptors got a decent season record last season. Actually, not just last season, they are consistent in having a good record for several seasons now.

Kawhi Leonard played 60 games for the Raptors last season with a record of 41W 19L. Here, we can see that the Raptors are playing well with or without Leonard. We have seen big improvements in the likes of VanFleet, Siakam, and many others (I didn't mention Lowry, he is good year by year). In the playoffs up to the finals, that's when we witnessed Leonard's big contribution resulting in a championship.

And this season:

[Questat]

 Lets be honest here, Raptors did take advantage of Kawhi but at the same time dude wasn't really all that much around during the season. Sure he played a lot of games but Raptors never really relied on Kawhi during the season. What he brought during the playoffs was the real deal, we all remember the last second shot against sixers for example, after that we can count on his amazing defense on locking up superstars as well. Nobody can deny that Kawhi was a HUGE part of raptors team last year and can go as far as saying Raptors wouldn't be champions if it wasn't for Kawhi. However teams evolve, last year they found Siakam and FVV as great contributors, they played them a lot during the season and on playoffs as well, now they are giving those two a lot more minutes, so whatever they lost with Kawhi, they sort of made it up back by the improvements of others all together instead of getting another star.

Good point. I've mentioned that before too that Kawhi isn't really the main factor why Raptors got a decent season record last season. Actually, not just last season, they are consistent in having a good record for several seasons now.

Kawhi Leonard played 60 games for the Raptors last season with a record of 41W 19L. Here, we can see that the Raptors are playing well with or without Leonard. We have seen big improvements in the likes of VanFleet, Siakam, and many others (I didn't mention Lowry, he is good year by year). In the playoffs up to the finals, that's when we witnessed Leonard's big contribution resulting in a championship.

And this season:

Good comparison... This means the Raptors are better now compared to the past season but then it's just for regular season.

Clearly prior to the start of the regular season, the Raptors are so underestimated with only as sportsbook offers "+2500" if they'll win.
https://www.oddsshark.com/nba/nba-futures

[joshy23]

Good comparison... This means the Raptors are better now compared to the past season but then it's just for regular season.

Clearly prior to the start of the regular season, the Raptors are so underestimated with only as sportsbook offers "+2500" if they'll win.
https://www.oddsshark.com/nba/nba-futures

It will be determine coming this second round, the playoff seasons are very different from the regular and knowing the impact playing without Kawhi will be test if Raptors will still survive. It's entertaining since everything is unpredictable from both East and West unlike when lebron still in the east and GSW still dominating the west.

[Reid]

Good comparison... This means the Raptors are better now compared to the past season but then it's just for regular season.

Clearly prior to the start of the regular season, the Raptors are so underestimated with only as sportsbook offers "+2500" if they'll win.
https://www.oddsshark.com/nba/nba-futures

It will be determine coming this second round, the playoff seasons are very different from the regular and knowing the impact playing without Kawhi will be test if Raptors will still survive. It's entertaining since everything is unpredictable from both East and West unlike when lebron still in the east and GSW still dominating the west.

Truth.
No way to predict who will be the champion. Better put your bets to whatever team you support as early as you could.
About comparisons though.
Let us also not forget Clippers fought the GSW last year which gave them a hard time to win that series.
I really saw a chance of winning back then. But GSW is just too strong for them. Well, they are the champions so it will be a difficult task to win specially at a crowded GSW homecourt.

[Maslate]

Good comparison... This means the Raptors are better now compared to the past season but then it's just for regular season.

Clearly prior to the start of the regular season, the Raptors are so underestimated with only as sportsbook offers "+2500" if they'll win.
https://www.oddsshark.com/nba/nba-futures

It will be determine coming this second round, the playoff seasons are very different from the regular and knowing the impact playing without Kawhi will be test if Raptors will still survive. It's entertaining since everything is unpredictable from both East and West unlike when lebron still in the east and GSW still dominating the west.

Truth.
No way to predict who will be the champion. Better put your bets to whatever team you support as early as you could.
About comparisons though.
Let us also not forget Clippers fought the GSW last year which gave them a hard time to win that series.
I really saw a chance of winning back then. But GSW is just too strong for them. Well, they are the champions so it will be a difficult task to win specially at a crowded GSW homecourt.

The same thing would happen here with the Toronto crowd as they have a big crowd, and the fact that they are the defending champ and they are doing an incredible run so far, expect a huge crowd of fans once the playoff starts.

[boyptc]

I'm betting tomorrow for Wizards against Knicks. I'm not following these teams but I think it's a good match to bet with Wizards.

Do you have some good insights about each teams that might help me continue or change my bet?

[mirakal]

I'm betting tomorrow for Wizards against Knicks. I'm not following these teams but I think it's a good match to bet with Wizards.

Do you have some good insights about each teams that might help me continue or change my bet?

These are shitty teams for now, are you even excited to watch this game? I mean if you like having fun while gambling then maybe choose a good game.
Anyway, IMO either team could win, but it's likely go over if you are interested in betting the total.

by the way, I like to introduce you to the NBA betting thread, you might want to check.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5091185.2280;topicseen

[boyptc]

I'm betting tomorrow for Wizards against Knicks. I'm not following these teams but I think it's a good match to bet with Wizards.

Do you have some good insights about each teams that might help me continue or change my bet?

These are shitty teams for now, are you even excited to watch this game? I mean if you like having fun while gambling then maybe choose a good game.
Anyway, IMO either team could win, but it's likely go over if you are interested in betting the total.

by the way, I like to introduce you to the NBA betting thread, you might want to check.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5091185.2280;topicseen

I know they are that kind of team but just for the sake of betting. A small amount wouldn't matter to me because I just want to watch this game and bet on it or simply bet on it without watching.

Thanks for showing that thread.

[Ziskinberg]

I know they are that kind of team but just for the sake of betting. A small amount wouldn't matter to me because I just want to watch this game and bet on it or simply bet on it without watching.

Thanks for showing that thread.

Well, then you should try betting more games on the board.. I also would like to recommend to bet on the over since both teams have a pretty bad record now and they are so unpredictable, if only Wizards would be playing at home I would pick them but they are on the road now after playing the bulls and win. Maybe if you try to look at the fatigue factor, you'll take the home team here as Wizards are playing a back to back games.

[beerlover]

Raptors are not doing "better" this year compared to last year, they didn't really cared about the regular season last year, they kind of do right now.

Surely players Lika Lowry or maybe Ibaka etc do not care, didn't care last year and not now neither, however players like Siakam or FVV who are doing very well and they are working hard because they did really showed themselves last year on playoffs but they really had to step up and keep showing the same value this year as well otherwise they would have been players who once played well for a while, now they are stars in their team.

Long story short raptors are not suddenly better, no team could ever disregard a superstar like Kawhi and be better, they are just playing better without Kawhi compared to times last year where they played without Kawhi, otherwise on playoffs the missing of Kawhi will show itself very much.

[Captain Corporate]

 Betting for or against Raptors have been one of the most inconsistent things in the past 2-3 years. When Lebron was in east and Raptors played against him you knew that Lebron would prevail, every time they faced it was like "this is the time we beat him!!" and every year they were wrong. So last year when a team like warriors who would easily beat Raptors normally faced them, the amount of people who wagered on "warriors take the series" was waaaay too high, even with some misses they were still by far better. Of course we know what happened afterwards and now they are the last champions. Same goes for this year, everyone assumed they would be either tanking or rebuilding or basically do something but than what happened? They are as good as last year or maybe even better on regular season (playoffs has to be seen yet).

[Golftech]

I know they are that kind of team but just for the sake of betting. A small amount wouldn't matter to me because I just want to watch this game and bet on it or simply bet on it without watching.

Thanks for showing that thread.

Well, then you should try betting more games on the board.. I also would like to recommend to bet on the over since both teams have a pretty bad record now and they are so unpredictable, if only Wizards would be playing at home I would pick them but they are on the road now after playing the bulls and win. Maybe if you try to look at the fatigue factor, you'll take the home team here as Wizards are playing a back to back games.

That impact the game since fatigue might exhaust them while playing against the home team. Adding to that, both teams don't have any chance to proceed to second round it's really unpredictable if which is which will perform better.
If you are still interested just like what you have said, betting with small amount and try your luck would be fine.

[Harlot]

Raptors are not doing "better" this year compared to last year, they didn't really cared about the regular season last year, they kind of do right now.

Surely players Lika Lowry or maybe Ibaka etc do not care, didn't care last year and not now neither, however players like Siakam or FVV who are doing very well and they are working hard because they did really showed themselves last year on playoffs but they really had to step up and keep showing the same value this year as well otherwise they would have been players who once played well for a while, now they are stars in their team.

Long story short raptors are not suddenly better, no team could ever disregard a superstar like Kawhi and be better, they are just playing better without Kawhi compared to times last year where they played without Kawhi, otherwise on playoffs the missing of Kawhi will show itself very much.

I don't know why people are thinking that the Toronto Raptors don't care about there season this year just because they don't have Kawhi Leonard this year or maybe because they are not making any noise compared to last year. I mean they are the second best team in the East and they are actually playing the same way like any team in the East who want's to compete aside from that they are not resting their players too long and they are actually starting their best players in every game as long as they are healthy. If they don't care about the regular season at all they'll just be like the Warriors tanking their way in the first round pick but they aren't, they are trying to win games in the regular season and you can see it on how they play.

[boyptc]

I know they are that kind of team but just for the sake of betting. A small amount wouldn't matter to me because I just want to watch this game and bet on it or simply bet on it without watching.

Thanks for showing that thread.

Well, then you should try betting more games on the board.. I also would like to recommend to bet on the over since both teams have a pretty bad record now and they are so unpredictable, if only Wizards would be playing at home I would pick them but they are on the road now after playing the bulls and win. Maybe if you try to look at the fatigue factor, you'll take the home team here as Wizards are playing a back to back games.

Thank you for that insight.

It's helpful to have such insights like this although the match isn't of the favorites of bettors like the other guy has mentioned. It's funny to see such bets that doesn't really like by others but for someone like me, I think it is fine to bet sometimes with this kind of games.

[milewilda]

Raptors are not doing "better" this year compared to last year, they didn't really cared about the regular season last year, they kind of do right now.

Surely players Lika Lowry or maybe Ibaka etc do not care, didn't care last year and not now neither, however players like Siakam or FVV who are doing very well and they are working hard because they did really showed themselves last year on playoffs but they really had to step up and keep showing the same value this year as well otherwise they would have been players who once played well for a while, now they are stars in their team.

Long story short raptors are not suddenly better, no team could ever disregard a superstar like Kawhi and be better, they are just playing better without Kawhi compared to times last year where they played without Kawhi, otherwise on playoffs the missing of Kawhi will show itself very much.

I don't know why people are thinking that the Toronto Raptors don't care about there season this year just because they don't have Kawhi Leonard this year or maybe because they are not making any noise compared to last year. I mean they are the second best team in the East and they are actually playing the same way like any team in the East who want's to compete aside from that they are not resting their players too long and they are actually starting their best players in every game as long as they are healthy. If they don't care about the regular season at all they'll just be like the Warriors tanking their way in the first round pick but they aren't, they are trying to win games in the regular season and you can see it on how they play.

Same sentiments and which i do fully agree.Why would say that they arent performing the same neither have or doesnt have Kawhi into their team?
You can really see their perseverance on each play and as said they are top 2 in the East and still saying that they arent minding much or do perform well
on regular season? Its somewhat contradictory i shall say.

[Questat]

Same sentiments and which i do fully agree.Why would say that they arent performing the same neither have or doesnt have Kawhi into their team?
You can really see their perseverance on each play and as said they are top 2 in the East and still saying that they arent minding much or do perform well
on regular season? Its somewhat contradictory i shall say.

Raptors cared more about the regular season this season compared to last year IMO because they are in a mission to prove that they are still a great team even without their best player, last year, they are struggling when Leaonard is under "load management" so they are more reliant on Leonard that time but this time, they are better as a team as everyone are scoring.

[Yaunfitda]

Same sentiments and which i do fully agree.Why would say that they arent performing the same neither have or doesnt have Kawhi into their team?
You can really see their perseverance on each play and as said they are top 2 in the East and still saying that they arent minding much or do perform well
on regular season? Its somewhat contradictory i shall say.

Raptors cared more about the regular season this season compared to last year IMO because they are in a mission to prove that they are still a great team even without their best player, last year, they are struggling when Leaonard is under "load management" so they are more reliant on Leonard that time but this time, they are better as a team as everyone are scoring.

Exactly, and fore sure everyone noticed that this year, they are playing as if nothing had happened to the team. Of course, Kawhi has departed, but they are still performing very strong with Siakam (new contract worth hundreds of millions) and Fred VanVleet also playing very well.

Even the NBA media is so quiet about it, we won't heard anything from the Kawhi departure, so it means that no one from the Raptors players and management are affected, if they are, they look at the bright side (winning a championship with Kawhi).

[theamazingmozzarella]

I took the Nuggets to upset the Lakers tonight. I think Jokic has been playing great recently and it's always tough traveling to Denver.