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August 04, 2016, 10:15:51 PM
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is this allowed
3 same bets only slightly diffrent odds



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August 04, 2016, 10:20:06 PM
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While not a participant, I was looking at his bets, and its not allowed, and its not even counted in his bets. He himself acknowledged the fact that only one of his bets is going to get paid.
EDIT: Actually seems the DB system did a counting mistake for that kind of a bet. Probably will be rejected later. But I am sure he is aware of the fact it will not be allowed, and isn't doing it to get inmore money on one bet.


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August 04, 2016, 11:03:39 PM
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is this allowed
3 same bets only slightly diffrent odds

https://i.gyazo.com/b73295c1df638470a9e30005223d9596.png

It seems that two different bets IMO
The Draw @ 8.2 or better 
The Draw @ 8.2 or better
Only  first bet is calculated


The Draw @ 9 or better


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August 04, 2016, 11:04:27 PM
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I have said it in the other thread, there is someting wrong with the 3 first bets, how possible to get @36 or so?
This was strange to me and still is Wink

Only the first bet counts?
https://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=1GrSgHhVR3bh2JTSRVyf9PuSL2qC4Nsd83
"A Payout of 0.15416 BTC was issued. Payout Transaction ID #"
and +36% or so?

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August 04, 2016, 11:41:44 PM
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I have said it in the other thread, there is someting wrong with the 3 first bets, how possible to get @36 or so?
This was strange to me and still is Wink

Only the first bet counts?
https://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=1GrSgHhVR3bh2JTSRVyf9PuSL2qC4Nsd83
"A Payout of 0.15416 BTC was issued. Payout Transaction ID #"
and +36% or so?



I mean of 3 bets only two bets calculated

1 bet
The Draw @ 8.2 or better
The Draw @ 8.2 or better


2 bet
The Draw @ 9 or better

Perhaps in live bets could place the same bet but with a different time, Should we wait OP




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August 05, 2016, 04:36:35 AM
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is this allowed
3 same bets only slightly diffrent odds

While all 3 bets are listed in the bet history list, only one of them was counted in the leaderboard. That's by design.

Notice he placed 10 bets but only 7 were counted in the leaderboard.

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August 05, 2016, 10:18:01 AM
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I have a question about the 70 mbtc that is given out. What exactly are the requirements for that ? Do I have to have a rollover of 2000 points just in general while betting on directbet or only during the contest I have to bet 2000 mbtc ?

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August 05, 2016, 12:05:22 PM
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I have a question about the 70 mbtc that is given out. What exactly are the requirements for that ? Do I have to have a rollover of 2000 points just in general while betting on directbet or only during the contest I have to bet 2000 mbtc ?

Hello philiveyjr, as listed in the rules of the competition, first you need to place the exact number of 100 valid bets during the competition to qualify for any prizes in the competition (the only exception to this requirement are the prizes of the side competition that will start on the 8th August).

If you fulfill that requirement the participation prize of 70mBTC will be paid to your direcbet play wallet, and the 2000 rollover needs to be done on their casino. Bets will not count for this rollover. Also I remind that the top7 prizes have no rollover requirements.



As for MargonCreatives (2) bets, directbet has already explained, but I would just like to add that his bets are of course paid, so those were wins for him outside the competition, but only one of those bets is reflected on the ROI% change in the leaderbaord. So remember, you can make all the bets you want, and they will appear on that list, but the script used by this competition will automatically exclude the ones that are not valid for the competition. Just added this, to make sure you feel comfortable in making all the bets you want for profit. You are not breaking any rules by doing so, and our script will make sure of that.

Information on the groups for the side competition will be posted on this weekend.

Good luck!

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August 06, 2016, 12:08:30 AM
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this rule about only 100 bets is pretty damn stupid
because you cant make 20 bets or 1000 bets this is a little stupid what you guys made
even do people usually put 1.01 and you try and prevent that its kind of stupid
its better if you putted a rule no odds under 1.04 or 1.05

also side competition should be worth more then 160mbtc its more intense and hard to pass the groups
there should be more rewards to how much people are betting and attracting people to the site itself

i hope directbet see this,because this tournament is marketingly more worth then it looks and the rewards are much much lower then when it started in first 3 tournaments
it had meaning at first

you just made stupid rules with 100 bets limitation and minimium and maximum
minimum should be at least 30 bets and max no limit
as i know you should attract people to gamble more on your site not to limit it,i guess im right directbet,hopefully you will look into this
but a word from a tipster like me wont mather to you much (it dosent even mather if im the best or not ) you will just say you will look into this and not do anything about it,congrats to the hosts that are clearing the thread with good questions they are doing a good job
but you guys should try and look into this

this is a big shout out to directbet

a great tournament like this should be worth more
you got 100 bettors at least

Hello Joca97, I'm answering this in the discussion thread, because it's easier for other users to read it, and comment as well.
I tried to organize this post in "points", or ideas. They are of course all related and do not represent isolated ideas, but I do think that it will make it easier for anyone to comment if they want.

Point 1:
First we try to reward bigger bets with the 13% bonus. As you know, for the purpose of this competition, you get 13% of your bet stake added to your ROI% either you win or lose the bet. So as your bankroll increases, if you keep betting the maxed allowed for your bankroll, you will get a good reward for the competition with this bonus. That's the main reason we still keep it.
Unfortunately this bonus brings some problems as you all know, and users were getting huge ROI% by spamming low odds bets. We try to solve this by adding the 100 bet limit. ROI% greatly decreased since we made that rule, and that way we can keep the 13% bonus incentive for bigger bets.

Point 2:
Maybe we can limit the odds, but the problem is to what limit. I don't think limiting @1.05 would be enough, and the 13% bonus would become exploitable again. Maybe @1.2 would be a good value, but then it comes the problem with live betting, because of the odds variation (that you can negotiate, I know), but it could still mean you would lose a key moment for live betting. And what about odds really close to that number (1.18, 1.19), that could be considered as a value bet for a bettor, and he would not be able to make it (at least not for the competition).

Point 3:
I don't think this is a simple question, and that's why we haven't made any changes yet. The 100 bet limit although it's not ideal, and we can see that in the last competition, where the fight for first place was really tight, and patt0 that was in front could not defend his first place anymore because he run out of bets. That is not of course the best way to see who is the best tipster in the forum, but it brings some "order" and "boundaries" to the competition.

As usual everything is open for discussion, and we want to make the competition better. Right now, I can't see any better solution for all these problems, but let us know what you think, and of course all the other participants.

Now regarding the side competition:
It is worth more than 160mBTC at the moment, remember you get 30 for each phase you pass, so the winner gets a total of 280mBTC (that is about the same as 3th place of the main competition, and although this one has a rollover, at least it's not affected by the minimum number of qualified participants). I know it's hard to get to the final, but it's still a "just" a side competition.

Point 4:
As for bigger prizes, I don't really know what to say. I understand that the bigger the prizes the better, we all like that, but we can't really forget that the first main purpose of the competition is to create a safe experience for anyone that wishes to start betting (that's why we "guarantee" a 70mBTC participation prize, that is almost the same as the minimum bankroll), and the second main purpose is to promote those that are good at this. That's why we created the Hall of Fame (and the trophies).

Point 5:
We are now in the 8th edition of this competition, each one with a month duration, so when someone gets there (to the Hall of Fame), it cant just be because he had a lucky run, it probably means that he actually has some skill. So this can actually be a good promotion to the participants as well, and they are winning prizes in doing so, plus the profit form his bets.
So yes bigger prizes is always better, but we can't remove value to this part of the competition, even if we don't get bigger prizes.

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August 06, 2016, 03:58:08 AM
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Hello,

I want to asking betting on Poker will be count in the Competition or no? I make two parlay (Poker 2 match each parlay) and those bet is lost and its showed up on my BitYoLo(2) Picks but I have make another one and its win but didn't show up on history, why ?

Two parlay:
https://directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=DEbBXhd5U1xq1BfrWG8wifZ3CGDVYgVgnz
https://directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=DA5mxZb4YMQKkQ4EME5RxEVB7cBzgrngaX

This one:
https://directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=DEhaVTsHVfuFwAhP2Ts9w7NRtccjfwr1CV
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Hello,

I want to asking betting on Poker will be count in the Competition or no? I make two parlay (Poker 2 match each parlay) and those bet is lost and its showed up on my BitYoLo(2) Picks but I have make another one and its win but didn't show up on history, why ?

Two parlay:
https://directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=DEbBXhd5U1xq1BfrWG8wifZ3CGDVYgVgnz
https://directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=DA5mxZb4YMQKkQ4EME5RxEVB7cBzgrngaX

This one:
https://directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=DEhaVTsHVfuFwAhP2Ts9w7NRtccjfwr1CV

Actually, neither All-In Poker nor Direct Dice bets count towards participation in this competition; this is a tipster competition, after all. Smiley (bets related to poker competitions in general count, of course)

As such, all of those bets are removed when spotted (regardless of the result). The problem is, the process to remove them isn't automatic, so, occasionally some may slip through.

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August 06, 2016, 09:52:05 AM
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Just to make this subject clearer, I would like to add to what u9y42 has said, that only parlays are not automatically removed. The script detects single bets automatically, but parlays need to be identified and removed manually.

We do check accounts during the competition, specially top7, but it takes time. You are free to keep making those bets of course, but if possible please report them as it will make our job much easier.

I will ask direcbet to remove those two parlays when possible
(Congrats on your win by the way, remind me not to play poker against you xD)

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August 06, 2016, 01:13:30 PM
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Hello,

I want to asking betting on Poker will be count in the Competition or no? I make two parlay (Poker 2 match each parlay) and those bet is lost and its showed up on my BitYoLo(2) Picks but I have make another one and its win but didn't show up on history, why ?

Two parlay:
https://directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=DEbBXhd5U1xq1BfrWG8wifZ3CGDVYgVgnz
https://directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=DA5mxZb4YMQKkQ4EME5RxEVB7cBzgrngaX

This one:
https://directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=DEhaVTsHVfuFwAhP2Ts9w7NRtccjfwr1CV

Actually, neither All-In Poker nor Direct Dice bets count towards participation in this competition; this is a tipster competition, after all. Smiley (bets related to poker competitions in general count, of course)

As such, all of those bets are removed when spotted (regardless of the result). The problem is, the process to remove them isn't automatic, so, occasionally some may slip through.


Just to make this subject clearer, I would like to add to what u9y42 has said, that only parlays are not automatically removed. The script detects single bets automatically, but parlays need to be identified and removed manually.

We do check accounts during the competition, specially top7, but it takes time. You are free to keep making those bets of course, but if possible please report them as it will make our job much easier.

I will ask direcbet to remove those two parlays when possible
(Congrats on your win by the way, remind me not to play poker against you xD)

Good luck!
Thanks for your help guys, now it's removed. And also thanks DirectBet for removing it Smiley
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Important update:

Hello everyone, groups have been created.

- First we randomly distributed the top 6 players from the main competition.
- Then we distributed all users with positive ROI%, and after that, users with negative ROI%
- Finally all the users with zero ROI% were placed.

This was done to try to keep groups balanced and active.

Please review the groups and see if your name is there. As it happened in the previous competition we will use Entry 1 by default, but you can request to use another entry. To do so just pm us or post in this thread. When another entry is used it will appear as (E2 or E3) after your name.

If you find any errors or have any doubts please let us know.

Good luck!

Here are the general rules (for all the rules and details please refer to the second post of this thread)
- An average of 3 bets per day must be placed to qualify for prizes, and to advance to the next round
- You need to place at least a bet on any given day to qualify for points

Group phase Rules
- Each day we will award points based on the ROI% made on that day (1 to 6 points awarded each day on every group at 00h UTC)
- We will pass the top 2 participants from each group as well as the top 4 third places from the 6 groups

Bonus point System
- 1 point will be awarded per game on Full Time Correct Score market made pre-live.
(points will only be awarded on winning bets or parlays)


Group phase:

 
Group A
BitYoLo(0)(0)
Paidi(0)(0)
bitbollo(0)(0)
macaucun(0)(0)
Xanidas(0)(0)
GWS_My_Boy(0)(0)
supercops(0)(0)
vino(0)(0)
Apex.Bede(0)(0)
Kanapka(0)(0)
absy(0)(0)
Pyramid_Head(0)(0)
Shibashi_Nikamoto(0)(0)
Mediator(0)(0)
amiraja(0)(0)
Farma(0)(0)
Falconer(0)(0)
White_Sugar(0)(0)
 
Group B
98789(0)(0)
Erkallys(0)(0)
yolanda222(0)(0)
intel.nagako(0)(0)
Free1bitco.in(0)(0)
Omikifuse(0)(0)
Don.Corleone(0)(0)
Philiveyjr(0)(0)
cr7(0)(0)
conected(0)(0)
Amel(0)(0)
rizkyhiw(0)(0)
Google(0)(0)
Perla(0)(0)
The_Seller(0)(0)
BitTraderCute(0)(0)
celic95(0)(0)
LegendaryMembership(0)(0)
 
Group C
patt0(0)(0)
BetAdviser(0)(0)
Eric_Cartman(0)(0)
perfectmoneywallet(0)(0)
sureshnsnet(0)(0)
MargonCreatives(0)(0)
Mikelove2015(0)(0)
BurstIncomeAsset(0)(0)
asa.convex(0)(0)
Saturn643(0)(0)
Furious_7(0)(0)
bestcoins1(0)(0)
irsykes(0)(0)
BitcoinHunt3r(0)(0)
Cashsyur(0)(0)
dragonchooper(0)(0)
BALIK(0)(0)
krisnt80(0)(0)
 
Group D
Want0sell(0)(0)
Unread(0)(0)
Keyboard_PC(0)(0)
Joca97(0)(0)
ohnk(0)(0)
edenhazard(0)(0)
Lavos(0)(0)
NewBet(0)(0)
amine14madrid(0)(0)
brianlee01(0)(0)
betohell(0)(0)
gorokill(0)(0)
havargas(0)(0)
OrangeII(0)(0)
haseo11(0)(0)
poplolnman(0)(0)
Mimi_Peri_Rapunchelle(0)(0)
Vennali(0)(0)
 
Group E
MonsterV(0)(0)
Andolini(0)(0)
Too.Cool(E2)(0)(0)
mrs.van.braam(0)(0)
panjul07(0)(0)
hahay(0)(0)
Miha8(0)(0)
adel_hmdt(0)(0)
god.of.gambler(0)(0)
Tamrlan(0)(0)
lineranger(0)(0)
tessaphin(0)(0)
SKylake(0)(0)
maskeffec(0)(0)
ShowOff(0)(0)
Junamalik(0)(0)
csnorthchina(0)(0)
user(0)(0)
 
Group F
Karpeles(0)(0)
PuraPuraBego(0)(0)
Patrick349(0)(0)
Jasad(0)(0)
Sunhole.Lovers(0)(0)
Bolt Brownie(0)(0)
jordixal(0)(0)
Jcga(0)(0)
MadeinCoin(0)(0)
BBHex(0)(0)
TopT3ns(0)(0)
Joke(0)(0)
MI6(0)(0)
udidrone(0)(0)
famiextrem(0)(0)
RepublikCoin(0)(0)
Doonik(0)(0)
user(0)(0)


 
Ranking of all 3rd places
user(0)(0)
user(0)(0)
user(0)(0)
user(0)(0)
user(0)(0)
user(0)(0)

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August 08, 2016, 07:10:28 AM
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Hello everyone, groups have been created.

- First we randomly distributed the top 6 players from the main competition.
- Then we distributed all users with positive ROI%, and after that, users with negative ROI%
- Finally all the users with zero ROI% were placed.

This was done to try to keep groups balanced and active.

I like this part very much, in the last competition there were a few days where the tipsters from a group or two were getting points just by making one bet because they had no competition since the others were inactive, and at least one group where a lot of active users would not get any points, and they would definitely get them if they were on the less active group. I think this will make a big difference in the group phase.


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August 08, 2016, 12:30:41 PM
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I created a playing address, may I use it for the competition?

Address is 1DNRnt9GXgwgFPy1FkgVrAgQM7q3B4pJfQ


Thanks

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August 08, 2016, 04:38:32 PM
 #1377

I created a playing address, may I use it for the competition?

Address is 1DNRnt9GXgwgFPy1FkgVrAgQM7q3B4pJfQ


Thanks

I will ask direcbet and let you know as soon as possible.

Edit: You were asking to replace the current one right?
Or you want to keep both and use the multi entry feature?

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August 08, 2016, 10:46:00 PM
 #1378

I created a playing address, may I use it for the competition?

Address is 1DNRnt9GXgwgFPy1FkgVrAgQM7q3B4pJfQ


Thanks

I will ask direcbet and let you know as soon as possible.

Edit: You were asking to replace the current one right?
Or you want to keep both and use the multi entry feature?

I think the registration period is over, so the only option is replace the current one, don't?

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August 09, 2016, 07:55:00 AM
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When will you update the group faze points?
intrested to know Smiley


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August 09, 2016, 12:02:04 PM
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I created a playing address, may I use it for the competition?

Address is 1DNRnt9GXgwgFPy1FkgVrAgQM7q3B4pJfQ


Thanks

I will ask direcbet and let you know as soon as possible.

Edit: You were asking to replace the current one right?
Or you want to keep both and use the multi entry feature?

I think the registration period is over, so the only option is replace the current one, don't?

Yes you are correct, I miss read the hour of your post so it was out of the registration period.
But it was possible to update your account with the new address, so you can start using it now.

Good luck!

When will you update the group faze points?
intrested to know Smiley

Hello, I will update it today as soon as possible. We don't have an exact hour to update, but we do save the exact ROI% of the last day, so everything will be updated correctly, so you are free to keep making bets this day, as they will only be reflected on the side competition tomorrow.
I will try to update everything before 17h UTC!

Good luck!

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