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July 03, 2016, 04:37:52 AM
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Search for ' v ' won't count for Euro special bets, like Euro Winner or top scorer

Also there are half win and half won, and unsettled bets that would not be counted

That appears right. Smiley

I am not a participant in this particular competition, so I just mentioned what I usually do in general cases.

What is half win and half won?
Unsettled bets won't be counted, that is what I meant by all the bets are completed. Last one is the best one to use AFAIK if push are excluded and is relevant to this case.

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I mean half win and half loss, you can get them with asian handicap.

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July 03, 2016, 08:45:40 AM
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Will the finals include the dispute for 3rd place or only the final itself?

Will the minimum number of bets remains as 12 for the semis too(6 bets/game)?

Well on our side competition we will only dispute the final itself and pay 160 mBTC to the first place as announced.

As for which games will count for our final, I don't think we have a 3rd place dispute in Euro 2016, as far as I know that only happens in Copa America and World Cup. If we have it, then our final will include that game as well, but I really don't think we will have it, so it probably be the final itself on the 10th July.

As for the minimum number of bets we will continue using 3 bets average per day, so 6 bets minimum for the semi-finals (6th and 7th July), and 3 bets minimum for the final (10th July).

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July 03, 2016, 08:25:03 PM
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France 5 - 1 Iceland.


I think the ROI of most people will be destroyed today, specially from the ones that like to bet in under 4.5/5.5 goals



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July 03, 2016, 09:07:28 PM
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Congratz saturn643 (2) +4.82 % ranks 8th with 85 bets Smiley


red day for the top 7 Sad


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July 03, 2016, 09:26:59 PM
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I have planed not to bet over 0.1 eth around 1.40 % mini.

but I hade to try 0.3 Eth with "Under 2.5 Goals",
I was holding the confirmation link under a click, I click and 15 sec after  the fatal +1 goal!
@1.02 Cry

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July 03, 2016, 09:32:37 PM
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Only personal calculation for 1/4-Finals

Bolt Brownie (E2)
MonsterV

Saturn643(E2)
Karpeles

4 participants will go to the next round quarter finals. patt0 actually likely to qualify  with 5 points nad Saturn643(E2)  3 points
Pat0 made a mistake with the final ROI -26.62 Saturn643(E2) receive additional 3 points  total 6 points

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July 03, 2016, 09:50:28 PM
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Congratz saturn643 (2) +4.82 % ranks 8th with 85 bets Smiley
red day for the top 7 Sad
Thanks! Wink

Yeah looking at today's leaders change and it's filled with red. :/


4 participants will go to the next round quarter finals. patt0 actually likely to qualify  with 5 points nad Saturn643(E2)  3 points
Pat0 made a mistake with the final ROI -26.62 Saturn643(E2) receive additional 3 points  total 6 points
A very close match-up there for sure. Wink
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July 03, 2016, 09:59:49 PM
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Hello everyone, an unexpected result and some changes on both the side competition and main competition.
Things are warming up!

Here are results of the Quarter-Finals.
Rules remain the same for the next phase, see us at the Semi-Finals!

Good luck!

Knockout phase:

   
1/8-Finals
   
Mediator(1)(9+)
Bolt Brownie(2)(9+)
   
   
Keyboard_PC(2)(9+)
Omikifuse(3)(9+)
 
MadeinCoin(1)(9+)
Republikcoin.com(2)(9+)
   
   
MonsterV(3)(9+)
FruitsBasket(2)(9+)
   
Saturn643(6)(9+)
98789(E3)(3)(6bets)
   
   
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patt0(2)(9+)
   
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jasad(1)(9+)
   
   
EdenHazard(0)(9+)
Karpeles(E3)(3)(9+)
   
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BoltBrownie(E2)(7)(12+)
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User2(--)(--)
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   

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July 03, 2016, 10:01:28 PM
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Congratz saturn643 (2) +4.82 % ranks 8th with 85 bets Smiley
red day for the top 7 Sad
Thanks! Wink

Yeah looking at today's leaders change and it's filled with red. :/


4 participants will go to the next round quarter finals. patt0 actually likely to qualify  with 5 points nad Saturn643(E2)  3 points
Pat0 made a mistake with the final ROI -26.62 Saturn643(E2) receive additional 3 points  total 6 points
A very close match-up there for sure. Wink

I know you're a smart gambler let the opponent put a bet and waiting for an opportunity if the situation is favorable  you need to place small bets
otherwise if a bad situation you have to make big bets  Smiley so I want to ask you , whether you use that strategy?

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Hello everyone, an unexpected result and some changes on both the side competition and main competition.
Things are warming up!

Here are results of the Quarter-Finals.
Rules remain the same for the next phase, see us at the Semi-Finals!

Good luck!



Finally we entered the semi-finals I feel challenged and more like this competition from the main competition  Smiley
as usual already sent an email to DirectDice thanks FrueGreads and Good luck everyone  Wink

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July 04, 2016, 09:29:36 AM
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Only personal calculation for 1/4-Finals

Bolt Brownie (E2)
MonsterV

Saturn643(E2)
Karpeles

4 participants will go to the next round quarter finals. patt0 actually likely to qualify  with 5 points nad Saturn643(E2)  3 points
Pat0 made a mistake with the final ROI -26.62 Saturn643(E2) receive additional 3 points  total 6 points

Yes I did not expect so much goals and after the 2-0 things were already out of hand for me and I had to risk. Then I saw some of bitbollo and Jcga bets, and I decided to make them at higher odds (the under 5.5 and 4.5). If I lost them, which I thought I would, it would be good for my top7 entry, if I won them, I would pass to the semi-finals.

It will still be very hard to maintain first place, since I don't think bitbollo will lose more 1.01 bets, so he still can win around 14% with just those, but top3 sure looks better now, lets see how it goes.


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July 04, 2016, 11:16:18 AM
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Only personal calculation for 1/4-Finals

Bolt Brownie (E2)
MonsterV

Saturn643(E2)
Karpeles

4 participants will go to the next round quarter finals. patt0 actually likely to qualify  with 5 points nad Saturn643(E2)  3 points
Pat0 made a mistake with the final ROI -26.62 Saturn643(E2) receive additional 3 points  total 6 points

Yes I did not expect so much goals and after the 2-0 things were already out of hand for me and I had to risk. Then I saw some of bitbollo and Jcga bets, and I decided to make them at higher odds (the under 5.5 and 4.5). If I lost them, which I thought I would, it would be good for my top7 entry, if I won them, I would pass to the semi-finals.

It will still be very hard to maintain first place, since I don't think bitbollo will lose more 1.01 bets, so he still can win around 14% with just those, but top3 sure looks better now, lets see how it goes.

bitbollo (1) should get 10% ROI to hit you fall and  bets  available only 7 for bitbollo (1)  because the total bet 93 of the limit of 100 bets
So bitbollo (1) should get 1.5% ROI on each bet and all bets must win if one bets lose then he should get more ROI on each bet
Of the above calculation you are likely to be in the top standings

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July 05, 2016, 09:32:24 PM
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For this round could you please use Saturn643 (3) instead? Thanks! Wink
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July 05, 2016, 10:07:16 PM
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Only personal calculation for 1/4-Finals

Bolt Brownie (E2)
MonsterV

Saturn643(E2)
Karpeles

4 participants will go to the next round quarter finals. patt0 actually likely to qualify  with 5 points nad Saturn643(E2)  3 points
Pat0 made a mistake with the final ROI -26.62 Saturn643(E2) receive additional 3 points  total 6 points

Yes I did not expect so much goals and after the 2-0 things were already out of hand for me and I had to risk. Then I saw some of bitbollo and Jcga bets, and I decided to make them at higher odds (the under 5.5 and 4.5). If I lost them, which I thought I would, it would be good for my top7 entry, if I won them, I would pass to the semi-finals.

It will still be very hard to maintain first place, since I don't think bitbollo will lose more 1.01 bets, so he still can win around 14% with just those, but top3 sure looks better now, lets see how it goes.

bitbollo (1) should get 10% ROI to hit you fall and  bets  available only 7 for bitbollo (1)  because the total bet 93 of the limit of 100 bets
So bitbollo (1) should get 1.5% ROI on each bet and all bets must win if one bets lose then he should get more ROI on each bet
Of the above calculation you are likely to be in the top standings

With 1% bets he can get 1.33% ROI bet without loss. He would have to do slightly better than that in 10 bets. Not impossible task, but not easy, because there are only 3 games remaining

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July 06, 2016, 08:41:34 AM
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With 1% bets he can get 1.33% ROI bet without loss. He would have to do slightly better than that in 10 bets. Not impossible task, but not easy, because there are only 3 games remaining

If he just keeps doing fill in bets @1.01 he can't just bet 1%, he needs to bet 5%, that is the same as 10% of his initial bankroll, to win around 1.4% on each bet (because of the 13% bonus).

So he is risking 10% to a 1.4% bankroll increase. If he loses one bet he is out, unless he makes "normal" bets of course.
It shouldn't be that hard to win 7 bets @1.01, so he will be the winner for sure.


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July 06, 2016, 11:14:46 AM
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For this round could you please use Saturn643 (3) instead? Thanks! Wink

Hello saturn643, yes we can use your third entry for the Semi-Finals.

Good luck!

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I missed this side contest and I don't understand anything. Now I see in OP but too many rules and too many bets required, I wouldn't play with that many bets anyway. Good luck to other players. Maybe if you make more simple competition I'll join. Exact 100 bets rule is pretty dissuasive.


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July 06, 2016, 04:29:21 PM
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I missed this side contest and I don't understand anything. Now I see in OP but too many rules and too many bets required, I wouldn't play with that many bets anyway. Good luck to other players. Maybe if you make more simple competitions I'll join. Exact 100 bets rule is pretty dissuasive.

Hello ingiltere, we are now in our seventh competition, and the rules have been changing over time, specially after the first three competition, but have been quite stable on the last three events, and users seem to be able to fulfill the requirements.

We tried to implement a competition with a conservative bankroll management, that should bring profit on the long run. That's why we ask for 100 bets with a small bet stake (from 1% to 5% of current bankroll).

I see that you use a complete different approach as a betting strategy. Seems to be very "aggressive" and very accurate, almost like "surgical" bets. You need that of course to be able to bet 500% of your declared bankroll like you successfully did in the Germany v Slovakia game.

By no means I'm questioning your approach, it actually seems very profitable, but in an open competition, like the one we have, it would create many balance problems. Here are some examples:

-Some users don't even bet 5% of their declared bankroll, so they would not be able to compete with a user that feels comfortable in betting 500% of is declared bankroll. For this reason we can't remove stake limits.

-We can't really change the 100 bet limit as well, because we want to create a long run effect in this competition, by challenging our participants to keep a positive ROI% even with a large number of bets.

I'm not saying this is the best way to gamble, I'm just explaining why we have these rules and this system. Right now this seems the best way to promote a challenging competition available to almost anyone (with our participation prize of 70mBTC and a minimum bankroll of 100mBTC, it should really be available to anyone actually, almost at risk free).

Of course that we listen to our participants feedback, so feel free to make suggestions and we will see what we can do.

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Congratz +5% bitbollo (1) and saturn643 +6.25% (2) Karpeles (2) +1.4%,

guyz please leave me alone, may you? Wink
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July 06, 2016, 09:40:20 PM
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It contains only Euro 2016 and Copa America Centenario tournaments so I thought 100 bets is already impossible. That's why I don't bet to make it 100 bets and good ROI, I just played freely. Competition task is hard because tournaments have limited games and we had to make 100 bets in 30 days, most of the days there isn't even a single match played.
Same bankroll and % of bankroll per bet are good rules but exact 100 bets rule is too hard to accomplish.


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