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June 26, 2016, 09:42:53 PM
 #1141

1. Questions  related - Based on gaps:
Gap <10.1 points
If I get  ROI   10%  My opponent negative ROI -15%
Is this Gap < 10% -> 1 point   or  Gap 10% - 20% -> 2 points
because it is based on calculations gap of about 25%

2. Tomorrow there is the knockout phase last?
Just wanted to make sure in tomorrow's the last chance I had to make higher gaps to pursue points behind


1. That is actually a 25% gap, so in that case the winner would get 3 points, not 2.

2. Yes tomorrow is the last day of the 1/8-Finals, so last chance to get points to qualify for next round.

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June 26, 2016, 10:18:04 PM
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1. Questions  related - Based on gaps:
Gap <10.1 points
If I get  ROI   10%  My opponent negative ROI -15%
Is this Gap < 10% -> 1 point   or  Gap 10% - 20% -> 2 points
because it is based on calculations gap of about 25%

2. Tomorrow there is the knockout phase last?
Just wanted to make sure in tomorrow's the last chance I had to make higher gaps to pursue points behind


1. That is actually a 25% gap, so in that case the winner would get 3 points, not 2.

2. Yes tomorrow is the last day of the 1/8-Finals, so last chance to get points to qualify for next round.

Ok I've been placing bets the odds are quite high So what if I have the same points? I mean me and the opponent has 3 points
whether there is a special category so that one of the participants in the selection go to the next round





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June 26, 2016, 10:27:42 PM
 #1143

1. Questions  related - Based on gaps:
Gap <10.1 points
If I get  ROI   10%  My opponent negative ROI -15%
Is this Gap < 10% -> 1 point   or  Gap 10% - 20% -> 2 points
because it is based on calculations gap of about 25%

2. Tomorrow there is the knockout phase last?
Just wanted to make sure in tomorrow's the last chance I had to make higher gaps to pursue points behind


1. That is actually a 25% gap, so in that case the winner would get 3 points, not 2.

2. Yes tomorrow is the last day of the 1/8-Finals, so last chance to get points to qualify for next round.

Ok I've been placing bets the odds are quite high So what if I have the same points? I mean me and the opponent has 3 points
whether there is a special category so that one of the participants in the selection go to the next round

In case of a draw we will use the "global" ROI% of each participant to determine who will advance to the quarter-finals.

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June 26, 2016, 10:33:27 PM
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1. Questions  related - Based on gaps:
Gap <10.1 points
If I get  ROI   10%  My opponent negative ROI -15%
Is this Gap < 10% -> 1 point   or  Gap 10% - 20% -> 2 points
because it is based on calculations gap of about 25%

2. Tomorrow there is the knockout phase last?
Just wanted to make sure in tomorrow's the last chance I had to make higher gaps to pursue points behind


1. That is actually a 25% gap, so in that case the winner would get 3 points, not 2.

2. Yes tomorrow is the last day of the 1/8-Finals, so last chance to get points to qualify for next round.

Ok I've been placing bets the odds are quite high So what if I have the same points? I mean me and the opponent has 3 points
whether there is a special category so that one of the participants in the selection go to the next round

In case of a draw we will use the "global" ROI% of each participant to determine who will advance to the quarter-finals.

Ok, thank you if I had to be one winner in the end I will give you 10%  Cheesy
you deserve to be manager  Kiss





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June 26, 2016, 10:42:03 PM
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Ok, thank you if I had to be one winner in the end I will give you 10%  Cheesy
you deserve to be manager  Kiss

Hehe, thank you. We try our best to create a good experience for everyone in this competition.

Good luck!

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June 27, 2016, 02:14:30 AM
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I'm not sure if my correct score bets have been counted(account Omikifuse(1))

First I sent exactly 1% of current bankroll, but the system didn't count them, then I sent 0.0008 BTC, above 1% of my 76.5(or 75,6?) available bankroll. Should get close to 3.8% daily ROI profit from that, but now bets are settled and nothing chanced

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I'm not sure if my correct score bets have been counted(account Omikifuse(1))

First I sent exactly 1% of current bankroll, but the system didn't count them, then I sent 0.0008 BTC, above 1% of my 76.5(or 75,6?) available bankroll. Should get close to 3.8% daily ROI profit from that, but now bets are settled and nothing chanced

As far as I know when you send the betting with less than Bankrolll  system will not count
Then you send the same bet higher than Bankroll It also does not count due to one choice only counted one bet even if you send more than 1 times IMO

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I'm not sure if my correct score bets have been counted(account Omikifuse(1))

First I sent exactly 1% of current bankroll, but the system didn't count them, then I sent 0.0008 BTC, above 1% of my 76.5(or 75,6?) available bankroll. Should get close to 3.8% daily ROI profit from that, but now bets are settled and nothing chanced

As far as I know when you send the betting with less than Bankrolll  system will not count
Then you send the same bet higher than Bankroll It also does not count due to one choice only counted one bet even if you send more than 1 times IMO

That's correct. First bet was not counted because it was below the minimum. Second bet was not counted because the leaderboard ignores identical bets.

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June 27, 2016, 08:56:54 AM
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Hello everyone, here is the update of the second day of the 1/8-Finals.
We are now in the last day, and I'm glad to see that this phase is balanced and still anything can happen.
Don't forget there is a minimum of 9 bets to have a chance to pass for the next round.

Good luck!

Knockout phase:

   
1/8-Finals
   
Mediator(0)(8bets)
Bolt Brownie(2)(9+)
   
   
Keyboard_PC(2)(9+)
Omikifuse(1)(9+)
 
MadeinCoin(1)(7bets)
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Saturn643(3)(9+)
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bitbollo(1)(9+)
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EdenHazard(0)(9+)
Karpeles(E3)(2)(6bets)
   
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Running out of bets with Karpeles(3)

If I pass to the quarters finals, I would prefer play with Karpeles (2)

Thanks



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June 27, 2016, 11:02:24 PM
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I've reached the 100 bet limit for my first entry, could you switch me over to my second entry for the next round please? Smiley
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June 28, 2016, 06:51:48 AM
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Running out of bets with Karpeles(3)

If I pass to the quarters finals, I would prefer play with Karpeles (2)

Thanks

I've reached the 100 bet limit for my first entry, could you switch me over to my second entry for the next round please? Smiley

Yes, you can change your entries for the next round of the side competition.
We will use Karpeles (2), and saturn643 (2).

I will update the Playoffs table later today, so you all know who will advance to the Quarter-Finals, that will take place from the 30 June at 00h UTC, to the 4 July at 00h UTC.

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June 28, 2016, 07:17:07 AM
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Hi Fruegrads,
but about Half time/final time, if some one make 6bets and only one is winning = +1 in knockout competition.
So there is any penalization for who try to guess the results (and play all possibilities)?
Or even the player get the "easy" point? (because there is any tipster ability writing 6 different results)
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Congratulations to those who qualify for the next round
I'm not sure I pass or not still waiting FrueGreads to announce the list of winners

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June 28, 2016, 10:23:23 AM
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Hi Fruegrads,
but about Half time/final time, if some one make 6bets and only one is winning = +1 in knockout competition.
So there is any penalization for who try to guess the results (and play all possibilities)?
Or even the player get the "easy" point? (because there is any tipster ability writing 6 different results)

Hello bitbollo, first we no longer award points for half time correct score, only Full time correct scores, so it's quite harder to predict.
Also, we no longer award points for "half wins" (getting right the number of goals that one team scores).

So if the user wants to play all possibilities, he will be betting on 18 selections, so around 18% investment just to get 1 point. That is not a good investment since he will get out of it with negative ROI%, and we award up to 3 points in the gap system.

A user might choose more than one result, and if they wager correctly on just a few probable scores, he will probably come out of those bets with a positive ROI%, plus the extra point. In this situation I see no problem in awarding the extra point, because you need skills to just choose a few correct scores to try the extra point and still get some profit from it.

Here is an example, lets pick the game Poland v Portugal and lets "blind pick" 6 full time correct score selections, like you mentioned in you example:
(the criteria for this "blind pick" is the lower odds possible on 6 full time correct scores)

0-0 @6 (bet 0.00207 btc)
0-1 @6 (bet 0.00207 btc)
0-2 @9.4 (bet 0.00132 btc)
1-0 @8.8 (bet 0.00141 btc)
1-1 @6.4 (bet 0.00194 btc)
1-2 @10.5 (bet 0.00118 btc)

If I wager correctly this "blind pick", with the values above, I would yield around 2% profit if any of those selections won, plus the extra point.

So I would be risking 10% ROI for 2% profit plus an extra point.
The problem is that you cant just "blind pick". Take a look of what happened in the game England vs Iceland. The 1-2 would not get picked for sure in that blind pick, same way the 2-1 for Poland vs Portugal is not here, and it's something that can happen.

So there is still risk involved, and it's not an easy point. Like I said before, a good tipster would wager correctly between those 6 selections and get profit plus the extra point. He could even do it with fewer selections, meaning more profit, but he still needs to make good selections in order to achieve that, otherwise he will just lose 10% ROI and maybe get the extra point.
But by doing that he would fall in the 10%-20% gap, so he would still be losing 1 point compared to his opponent, plus the ROI% he lost for the main competition.

This is why I think this bonus system needs skill to be used successfully.

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June 28, 2016, 10:34:27 AM
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Hello FrueGreads, I did not make any bet yesterday, but my total bets is 9+. Yesterday my daily ROI was 0, and my opponents ROI was around -20% I believe. Does this mean I am qualified to the next round of the side competition?

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Hello FrueGreads, I did not make any bet yesterday, but my total bets is 9+. Yesterday my daily ROI was 0, and my opponents ROI was around -20% I believe. Does this mean I am qualified to the next round of the side competition?

Hello FruitsBasket, I was about to update the Playoffs table and I'm afraid not.
Like it happened on the first round of the side competition, and I explained for the playoffs phase, since that was one of the questions asked regarding the rules, a player must participate in order to get points. So since you did not place a bet, and MonsterV did, he gets 1 point, even with a -26.21 ROI%

I know it does not seem fair, but those are the rules and there is nothing I can do about that. I can't guess how your ROI% would be if you have placed any bets. Given your opponent ROI you would probably win, but there is nothing I can do, I'm sorry.

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June 28, 2016, 11:12:52 AM
 #1158

Hello everyone, here are the results of the 1/8-Finals.
The rules are the same, for the next rounds, but fell free to place any doubts you might have.

Normal points system

- Based on gaps:
Gap < 10% -> 1 point
Gap 10% - 20% -> 2 points
Gap > 20% 3 points

Bonus points System
1 point will be awarded per game on Full Time Correct Score market made pre-live.
(points will only be awarded on winning bets or parlays)

- Minimum 12 bets required (average 3 per day) to advance to next phase
(Also don't forget you need to place at least a bet on any given day to qualify for points)

(Bolt Brownie, Omikifuse, Republikcoin.com, MonsterV, Saturn643, patt0, bitbollo, Karpeles)
Please PM your playing wallet account to Michelle (DirectDice) who will personally fund the playing wallet account with the 30mBTC prize for this phase

Knockout phase:

   
1/8-Finals
   
Mediator(1)(9+)
Bolt Brownie(2)(9+)
   
   
Keyboard_PC(2)(9+)
Omikifuse(3)(9+)
 
MadeinCoin(1)(9+)
Republikcoin.com(2)(9+)
   
   
MonsterV(3)(9+)
FruitsBasket(2)(9+)
   
Saturn643(6)(9+)
98789(E3)(3)(6bets)
   
   
Joke(1)(9+)
patt0(2)(9+)
   
bitbollo(2)(9+)
jasad(1)(9+)
   
   
EdenHazard(0)(9+)
Karpeles(E3)(3)(9+)
   
Quarter Finals
   
   
   
Bolt Brownie(--)(--)
Omikifuse(--)(--)
   
   
   
   
   
Republikcoin.com(--)(--)
MonsterV(--)(--)
   
   
   
   
   
Saturn643(E2)(--)(--)
patt0(--)(--)
   
   
   
   
   
bitbollo(--)(--)
Karpeles(E2)(--)(--)
   
   
Semi-Finals
   
   
   
   
   
   
User1(--)(--)
User2(--)(--)
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
User3(--)(--)
User4(--)(--)
   
   
   
   
   
   
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User1(--)(--)
User2(--)(--)
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   

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June 28, 2016, 01:26:38 PM
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Hello FrueGreads, I did not make any bet yesterday, but my total bets is 9+. Yesterday my daily ROI was 0, and my opponents ROI was around -20% I believe. Does this mean I am qualified to the next round of the side competition?

Hello FruitsBasket, I was about to update the Playoffs table and I'm afraid not.
Like it happened on the first round of the side competition, and I explained for the playoffs phase, since that was one of the questions asked regarding the rules, a player must participate in order to get points. So since you did not place a bet, and MonsterV did, he gets 1 point, even with a -26.21 ROI%

I know it does not seem fair, but those are the rules and there is nothing I can do about that. I can't guess how your ROI% would be if you have placed any bets. Given your opponent ROI you would probably win, but there is nothing I can do, I'm sorry.
This is not fair man, it said it required 9 bets total, which I made.
There is no rule that says that a bet has to be made each day, therefor it shouldn't be this way it is now. However it is your decision, but this is really weak of DirectBet.

Important Update

Hello everyone, here are the rules for the playoffs. We made a lot of changes from the group phase to make it more balanced.

Rules for the Playoffs

Runs from 25 June at 00h UTC to the 28 June at 00h UTC
Minimum 9 bets (average of 3 per day), during the 1/8-Finals to advance to the next phase.

Normal point system

- Based on gaps:
Gap < 10% -> 1 point
Gap 10% - 20% -> 2 points
Gap > 20% 3 points

So we will see the daily ROI% gap difference from each pair of users, and award points accordingly.

- Here is an example:

User A 20% daily ROI
User B 25% daily ROI
25-20 = 5% gap, and that falls on interval 1, so 1 point for user B, and 0 for A

Bonus point System
1 point will be awarded per game on Full Time Correct Score market made pre-live
If you win a parlay with full time correct score selections in it, you will get 1 point for each of those selection (but remember only on a parlay win, we will not award any points on losing bets or parlays)

Also no points on "half wins" (getting the goals of one team correct).
No points on a losing parlay, even if it has a winning selection with a correct score in it.

Basically you need a winning bet to get points.

Feel free to make any questions if you need.

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June 28, 2016, 02:22:29 PM
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It seems like 98789 gave up for the third day. Tongue

It was quite a challenge though, had he been in another group, his 3 points would have allowed him to advance. Wink
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