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[Emitdama]

I don't think Bitsler would allow someone to win $5 million unless their bankroll is big enough to tank a loss like that.

Most casinos have a max profit to maintain their bankroll and according to their article page the max profit is 2 btc.

Coin            : Min Bet       / Max Bet      / Max Profit
Bitcoin (BTC): 0.00000001 / 2.00000000 / 2.00000000

That seems previously proposed but probably not in practice anymore, I mean not really a precise number to win.

I just meant if you wager 1 dollars you could get 5 million dollars looking at the odds that you could win. Because I was told even 5x million odds are possible. Obviously it would be very difficult to pay that up and the max bet wouldn't allow it, but that wasn't the thing I was talking about, it was the odds of how much it could be won.

I also said 1 cents, you could win 50 thousand dollars! Which is insane and I think available as the max bet? I never really tried max bet because I am not that rich so I don't know the bet, but if you wager 0.001 dollars which is 1 tenth of a cent, that is still 5 thousand dollars, which I am sure must be available to win as max bet couldn't be under 1 bitcoin (still not sure, never checked).

[ralle14]

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I understand your point, I only wanted to mention there's a certain limit on how much you can win. I think the max bet and profit is still the same unless they forgot to update the article which is fine since not many would gamble that big and it's probably different for each game because of the maximum odds. Also you're referring to the max profit and not the max bet.  

[JollyGood]

How many of the users that allegedly lost money in the betking scam and then went to sign up at Bitsler (via the affiliate link serial scammer Dean Nolan provided) have actually stayed loyal to Bitsler and gambled there instead of just withdrawing their $200 cash and running off?

Does anybody have any statistics?

[tranthidung]

How many of the users that allegedly lost money in the betking scam and then went to sign up at Bitsler (via the affiliate link serial scammer Dean Nolan provided) have actually stayed loyal to Bitsler and gambled there instead of just withdrawing their $200 cash and running off?

Does anybody have any statistics?

Of course some of them have stayed loyal using the Bitsler.com but it is obviously not a perfect stat at 100%. If they are gamblers, they will keep gambling and I don't see why they should leave Bitsler which gave them $200 after the exit of Betking. If there are casinos for them to gamble, after the terrible losses on Betking, Bitsler should be one of their first priorities.

For the precisely statistics on this, only Bitsler team or only Baryom has it. In my opinion, it is kinda private statistic and I am not sure that Baryom is readily to share it publicly for all.

[JollyGood]

One of the reasons those ex-betking victims would leave after signing up at Bitsler is simply because up to 250 of them would receive up $200 each.

There is no public record about who was or was not a game player at betking before it was closed down after serial scammer Dean Nolan stole the bankroll funds then blamed it on an imaginary hack. Bitsler is effectively giving $200 to any new user signing up via a specific affiliate link that is provided by serial scammer Dean Nolan. There is no way to ascertain how many of those up to 250 new sign ups via betking affiliate links are real victims of the betking scam and how many are fake accounts created by serial scammer Dean Nolan to pocket the cash for himself.

If the one who is responsible for stealing bankroll funds resulting in the closing down his own website and blaming it on an imaginary hack, how can the same thief be trusted to point out who should receive $200 each up to 250 people. Something is not right with that scenario.

Of course some of them have stayed loyal using the Bitsler.com but it is obviously not a perfect stat at 100%. If they are gamblers, they will keep gambling and I don't see why they should leave Bitsler which gave them $200 after the exit of Betking. If there are casinos for them to gamble, after the terrible losses on Betking, Bitsler should be one of their first priorities.

For the precisely statistics on this, only Bitsler team or only Baryom has it. In my opinion, it is kinda private statistic and I am not sure that Baryom is readily to share it publicly for all.

[fullhdpixel]

How many of the users that allegedly lost money in the betking scam and then went to sign up at Bitsler (via the affiliate link serial scammer Dean Nolan provided) have actually stayed loyal to Bitsler and gambled there instead of just withdrawing their $200 cash and running off?

Does anybody have any statistics?

I guess dean took all the money posing as customers who lost money and somehow managed to even scam bitsler out of their money and still not paid anyone at all or helped anyone at all. Dude is scum of the earth who leeches of everyone and for some weird reason after getting millions of dollars thanks to his scam, he is still here lurking about the few hundred dollars he could still get, either he lost all his money and has nothing at all, or he is just pure evil and wants to make every single cent from this scam just in case there is some more money to be made.

I would like to humbly suggest bitsler to get some proof of ownership and basically as many legal documents as possible before paying someone elses debts.

[Taskford]

How many of the users that allegedly lost money in the betking scam and then went to sign up at Bitsler (via the affiliate link serial scammer Dean Nolan provided) have actually stayed loyal to Bitsler and gambled there instead of just withdrawing their $200 cash and running off?

Does anybody have any statistics?

I guess dean took all the money posing as customers who lost money and somehow managed to even scam bitsler out of their money and still not paid anyone at all or helped anyone at all. Dude is scum of the earth who leeches of everyone and for some weird reason after getting millions of dollars thanks to his scam, he is still here lurking about the few hundred dollars he could still get, either he lost all his money and has nothing at all, or he is just pure evil and wants to make every single cent from this scam just in case there is some more money to be made.

I would like to humbly suggest bitsler to get some proof of ownership and basically as many legal documents as possible before paying someone elses debts.

If I where the bitsler they shouldn't not help the scammers since they cannot get benefits from it although people will be happy to get a refund but still it will not guarantee to them if they will shift to play on their site provably people will stay away nor play to the other site.

And since they already helped out then I will agree for your suggestion so that they can verify the real owner to get their refunds and not the scammer again.

[jamyr]

One of the reasons those ex-betking victims would leave after signing up at Bitsler is simply because up to 250 of them would receive up $200 each.

There is no public record about who was or was not a game player at betking before it was closed down after serial scammer Dean Nolan stole the bankroll funds then blamed it on an imaginary hack. Bitsler is effectively giving $200 to any new user signing up via a specific affiliate link that is provided by serial scammer Dean Nolan. There is no way to ascertain how many of those up to 250 new sign ups via betking affiliate links are real victims of the betking scam and how many are fake accounts created by serial scammer Dean Nolan to pocket the cash for himself.

If the one who is responsible for stealing bankroll funds resulting in the closing down his own website and blaming it on an imaginary hack, how can the same thief be trusted to point out who should receive $200 each up to 250 people. Something is not right with that scenario.

Hi JollyGood,

Bitsler is effectively giving $200 to any new user signing up via a specific affiliate link that is provided by serial scammer Dean Nolan.

Nope. I tried to get whatever my affiliate commission was back in betking thru this. But that has been a lost cause and I am moving on.

Baryom's money, baryom's decision to where he want his money be spent.

[Taskford]

One of the reasons those ex-betking victims would leave after signing up at Bitsler is simply because up to 250 of them would receive up $200 each.

There is no public record about who was or was not a game player at betking before it was closed down after serial scammer Dean Nolan stole the bankroll funds then blamed it on an imaginary hack. Bitsler is effectively giving $200 to any new user signing up via a specific affiliate link that is provided by serial scammer Dean Nolan. There is no way to ascertain how many of those up to 250 new sign ups via betking affiliate links are real victims of the betking scam and how many are fake accounts created by serial scammer Dean Nolan to pocket the cash for himself.

If the one who is responsible for stealing bankroll funds resulting in the closing down his own website and blaming it on an imaginary hack, how can the same thief be trusted to point out who should receive $200 each up to 250 people. Something is not right with that scenario.

Hi JollyGood,

Bitsler is effectively giving $200 to any new user signing up via a specific affiliate link that is provided by serial scammer Dean Nolan.

Nope. I tried to get whatever my affiliate commission was back in betking thru this. But that has been a lost cause and I am moving on.

Baryom's money, baryom's decision to where he want his money be spent.

Provably bitsler taking care only those users who deposited their money on betking and affiliate commissions are not including unto that so better start moving on since for sure you will not get it the owner of that site flee away already and luckily bitsler compensate a little percentage for those affected persons.

[Emitdama]

If I where the bitsler they shouldn't not help the scammers since they cannot get benefits from it although people will be happy to get a refund but still it will not guarantee to them if they will shift to play on their site provably people will stay away nor play to the other site.

And since they already helped out then I will agree for your suggestion so that they can verify the real owner to get their refunds and not the scammer again.

That is the tricky part here, there is a scammer who has stolen everyone's money, and then bitsler is effectively trying to do something nice for the people, they are good people, I admire their passion for the people who lost money, but they decide to believe the person who actually stole the money from people to give right information.

They are basically saying "Hey Dean we know you stole money from people, please tell us whose money you stole so that we can give them a bit back", does that make sense at all? I mean it doesn't sound reasonable at all and definitely not going to be that smart decision in the as well. We have complained about this long enough, the moment this started we all talked about how betking should be left alone about this situation, not much we can say to convince them otherwise if they don't believe us.

[JollyGood]

If you were already a Bitsler user then asked for $200 because you happened to be a betking victim, then I think it means you would not be getting the $200. The $200 was supposed to be an incentive for betking victims to sign up as new players at Bitsler. Is that what happened to you?

Exactly how much of the money from Bitsler would end up in the pockets of serial scammer Dean Nolan is debatable, time might tell.

One of the reasons those ex-betking victims would leave after signing up at Bitsler is simply because up to 250 of them would receive up $200 each.

There is no public record about who was or was not a game player at betking before it was closed down after serial scammer Dean Nolan stole the bankroll funds then blamed it on an imaginary hack. Bitsler is effectively giving $200 to any new user signing up via a specific affiliate link that is provided by serial scammer Dean Nolan. There is no way to ascertain how many of those up to 250 new sign ups via betking affiliate links are real victims of the betking scam and how many are fake accounts created by serial scammer Dean Nolan to pocket the cash for himself.

If the one who is responsible for stealing bankroll funds resulting in the closing down his own website and blaming it on an imaginary hack, how can the same thief be trusted to point out who should receive $200 each up to 250 people. Something is not right with that scenario.

Hi JollyGood,

Bitsler is effectively giving $200 to any new user signing up via a specific affiliate link that is provided by serial scammer Dean Nolan.

Nope. I tried to get whatever my affiliate commission was back in betking thru this. But that has been a lost cause and I am moving on.

Baryom's money, baryom's decision to where he want his money be spent.

[jamyr]

If you were already a Bitsler user then asked for $200 because you happened to be a betking victim, then I think it means you would not be getting the $200. The $200 was supposed to be an incentive for betking victims to sign up as new players at Bitsler. Is that what happened to you?

Nope. I am looking at it in a different way.

1. I am not looking to get $200 as that is way too much and I didn't have that much on my betkings account.

2. I was just trying to see if my affiliate back then would have earned anything and if there was, would like to have it transferred on my bitsler account.

3. Dean said no, so that's it. I said okay and moved on.

4. Theres lots of promotions on Bitsler currently, BTSLR challenge, chat games, bounty roll, lottery and the occasional Coupon, etc. So, those from betking who availed the $200 and even those who did not, would have found more than $200 in my opinion. They would have found a better place to gamble their cryptos with lots of games, variety of coins supported.

5. In case you have not created your account on bitsler yet, I'll pm you my ref link if you don't mind.

[JollyGood]

I think understand a bit better now.

The deal between Bitsler and serial scammer Dean Nolan was about betking users that allegedly had funds in their accounts when the betking scam was pulled (by none other than serial scammer Dean Nolan). Affiliates that were scammed by serial scammer Dean Nolan were not part of any deal between the two parties.

5. You should promote your Bitsler affiliate link in your avatar text or signature  

If you were already a Bitsler user then asked for $200 because you happened to be a betking victim, then I think it means you would not be getting the $200. The $200 was supposed to be an incentive for betking victims to sign up as new players at Bitsler. Is that what happened to you?

Nope. I am looking at it in a different way.

1. I am not looking to get $200 as that is way too much and I didn't have that much on my betkings account.

2. I was just trying to see if my affiliate back then would have earned anything and if there was, would like to have it transferred on my bitsler account.

3. Dean said no, so that's it. I said okay and moved on.

4. Theres lots of promotions on Bitsler currently, BTSLR challenge, chat games, bounty roll, lottery and the occasional Coupon, etc. So, those from betking who availed the $200 and even those who did not, would have found more than $200 in my opinion. They would have found a better place to gamble their cryptos with lots of games, variety of coins supported.

5. In case you have not created your account on bitsler yet, I'll pm you my ref link if you don't mind.

[jamyr]

I think understand a bit better now.

The deal between Bitsler and serial scammer Dean Nolan was about betking users that allegedly had funds in their accounts when the betking scam was pulled (by none other than serial scammer Dean Nolan). Affiliates that were scammed by serial scammer Dean Nolan were not part of any deal between the two parties.

5. You should promote your Bitsler affiliate link in your avatar text or signature  

Maybe my affiliates did not earn as much as I wanted/expected/assumed. But we are going quite a bit off-topic.

[coinfinger]

I am looking at it in a different way.

1. I am not looking to get $200 as that is way too much and I didn't have that much on my betkings account.

2. I was just trying to see if my affiliate back then would have earned anything and if there was, would like to have it transferred on my bitsler account.

3. Dean said no, so that's it. I said okay and moved on.

4. Theres lots of promotions on Bitsler currently, BTSLR challenge, chat games, bounty roll, lottery and the occasional Coupon, etc. So, those from betking who availed the $200 and even those who did not, would have found more than $200 in my opinion. They would have found a better place to gamble their cryptos with lots of games, variety of coins supported.

5. In case you have not created your account on bitsler yet, I'll pm you my ref link if you don't mind.

There is a huge difference between joining bitsler from Dean Nolans affiliate link to claim the 200 dollars that was promised from bitsler versus having affiliate income at the betking website that you are trying to get back. They are literally nothing alike, one talks about how bitsler will now who is actually a betking user that got scammed by way of having dean affiliate link them so it could be decided and confirmed by dean, while the other is you having affiliate income at betking itself which has nothing to do with bitsler. Moreover, it is only logical that someone who has managed to get others into a scam website with affiliate links should not be getting any money at all, whoever you have brought to betking lost all their money, you should lose all of yours as well for bringing them to a scammer website.

[JollyGood]

Thank you for your post but I think you are being a bit harsh here because you are going with the notion that jamyr promoted a scam website knowing it was a scam.

I would like to give him and other betking affiliates the benefits of any doubt by saying they would probably never promote a scam website if they knew it was a scam.

If betking users lost their funds after registering via affiliate links then betking owner/operator serial scammer Dean Nolan is ultimately responsible. I think existing betking affiliates should have resigned and new affiliates should have refused to sign up as soon as serial scammer Dean Nolan scammed the winners of the 2018 Christmas wager out of 20 BTC +EV but each to their own:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4751127.msg52921341#msg52921341

Anyway, I hope serial scammer Dean Nolan does not manage to pocket thousands of USD$ for himself by creating fake accounts and passing them off to Bitsler as genuine ex-users. The serial scammer Dean Nolan is also a compulsive liar too.

I am looking at it in a different way.

1. I am not looking to get $200 as that is way too much and I didn't have that much on my betkings account.

2. I was just trying to see if my affiliate back then would have earned anything and if there was, would like to have it transferred on my bitsler account.

3. Dean said no, so that's it. I said okay and moved on.

4. Theres lots of promotions on Bitsler currently, BTSLR challenge, chat games, bounty roll, lottery and the occasional Coupon, etc. So, those from betking who availed the $200 and even those who did not, would have found more than $200 in my opinion. They would have found a better place to gamble their cryptos with lots of games, variety of coins supported.

5. In case you have not created your account on bitsler yet, I'll pm you my ref link if you don't mind.

There is a huge difference between joining bitsler from Dean Nolans affiliate link to claim the 200 dollars that was promised from bitsler versus having affiliate income at the betking website that you are trying to get back. They are literally nothing alike, one talks about how bitsler will now who is actually a betking user that got scammed by way of having dean affiliate link them so it could be decided and confirmed by dean, while the other is you having affiliate income at betking itself which has nothing to do with bitsler. Moreover, it is only logical that someone who has managed to get others into a scam website with affiliate links should not be getting any money at all, whoever you have brought to betking lost all their money, you should lose all of yours as well for bringing them to a scammer website.

[jamyr]

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I'd like to discuss it with you but this is not the right thread.

Thank you for your post but I think you are being a bit harsh here because you are going with the notion that jamyr promoted a scam website knowing it was a scam.

I would like to give him and other betking affiliates the benefits of any doubt by saying they would probably never promote a scam website if they knew it was a scam.

If betking users lost their funds after registering via affiliate links then betking owner/operator serial scammer Dean Nolan is ultimately responsible. I think existing betking affiliates should have resigned and new affiliates should have refused to sign up as soon as serial scammer Dean Nolan scammed the winners of the 2018 Christmas wager out of 20 BTC +EV but each to their own:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4751127.msg52921341#msg52921341

Anyway, I hope serial scammer Dean Nolan does not manage to pocket thousands of USD$ for himself by creating fake accounts and passing them off to Bitsler as genuine ex-users. The serial scammer Dean Nolan is also a compulsive liar too.

Very much appreciate your input.
But can we please respect the Thread. Bitsler is a great website with a great owner.

[JollyGood]

Welcome. Yes better to keep on topic in this thread and keep it all about Bitsler.

~snip~

Very much appreciate your input.
But can we please respect the Thread. Bitsler is a great website with a great owner.

[coinfinger]

I am not saying that affiliates did it knowing it is a scam, I am just saying they have invited people to a website that turned out to be a scam, so they should be the last people to get money. Which should be the first one to get paid? The people who got scammed, or people who invited them there? I get that affiliates (as I am one myself but not for betking thankfully) may not realize they are scammers, it is totally normal to invite people to a new and exciting place and that is common for almost all of us, you are making money from their gambling as well, everything is fine there.

But when everything turned out to be a scam, I would say affiliates should be the last ones to get money, even if they are not guilty, because people who were invited there and gambled and even if they won, just lost it in the end because of the scam should be the first ones to get their money back, of course that is only if they could, but I doubt they could.

[Lassie]

Started to play on this site and I would say that this is one of the best crypto dice site nowadays specially with lots of ongoing promotion/event (I love the daily wagering contest) so you will not be bored while playing. I am still at bronze level though and hopefully I will be able to reach atleast diamond before I bust my ass