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[dezoel]

When we want to do KYC, we must make sure that the site can take care of the personal identity of their members in a safe place and not abuse the identity because right now, we do not know if they have already become a target or still safe from the hacker.
If the casino does not require KYC, that will be good for crypto gamblers as we can play gambling without revealing our identity.
The casino can ask for the KYC to their members but only for gamblers who want to withdraw a lot of money so a gambler should think about their privacy will be sent to the casino for the verification process.

The difference between exchanges and casinos is that, we are allowed to use exchanges in my nation but gambling is a bit of a gray area. Not that it is illegal, but not totally legal neither, you just need a license and you are not punished with "illegal gambling" when you get caught, you just get "unlicensed gambling" which is a lot minor and like maybe 100-150 bucks penalty fine for that which is fine and not a big deal. Casino gets a lot worse, they get like 5000 dollars for it.

So, when casinos see us give KYC without a problem to exchanges and not so much to casinos, they wonder why that is, and this is the main reason. I get the whole "what if you guys get hacked" situation but that's not it at all, not for me, not for many people I know, it is about giving it to a casino and I believe it is definitely not worth the risk most of the time until casino becomes HUGE, in that case you trust them enough.

[traderethereum]

When we want to do KYC, we must make sure that the site can take care of the personal identity of their members in a safe place and not abuse the identity because right now, we do not know if they have already become a target or still safe from the hacker.
If the casino does not require KYC, that will be good for crypto gamblers as we can play gambling without revealing our identity.
The casino can ask for the KYC to their members but only for gamblers who want to withdraw a lot of money so a gambler should think about their privacy will be sent to the casino for the verification process.

The difference between exchanges and casinos is that, we are allowed to use exchanges in my nation but gambling is a bit of a gray area. Not that it is illegal, but not totally legal neither, you just need a license and you are not punished with "illegal gambling" when you get caught, you just get "unlicensed gambling" which is a lot minor and like maybe 100-150 bucks penalty fine for that which is fine and not a big deal. Casino gets a lot worse, they get like 5000 dollars for it.

So, when casinos see us give KYC without a problem to exchanges and not so much to casinos, they wonder why that is, and this is the main reason. I get the whole "what if you guys get hacked" situation but that's not it at all, not for me, not for many people I know, it is about giving it to a casino and I believe it is definitely not worth the risk most of the time until casino becomes HUGE, in that case you trust them enough.

Yes, you are right. That is the difference between exchanges and casinos.
So I think that is one reason from many other reasons why crypto gamblers do not want to see KYC in the crypto casino because we think that we are only playing gambling, having fun, while we can expect to make money from the games.
But the casino will have different thinking than us because they want to grow their business by applying the KYC to their members.
We can send documents as requirements of the KYC but only to the casino that we really know they can protect the customer data so we do not feel afraid of hacking.

[nigthcrowd]

Looks very nice! I tried sending a bit of money, but it doesn't show up instantly =(

Also it doesn't let me change my client seed:

Too many request. 13 minute(s) left for change your seeds

And this is the first time I've even tried.  The typical advice for gamblers is that they set their own client seed before playing, so putting a restriction like this seems a little excessive and counter productive

Distinguish playing poker and slots as well as sportsbook. First, slots are just luck, intuition poker and sportsboks are insights, so it all just depends on your ability and experience in gambling.

[SirLancelot]

I would assume that having as many games as possible is a great plus for any casino. Like have all the casino games, dice, plinko, crash, slots and many other thousands of games, then have sportsbook, then have poker, and everything you can basically. Just be available for every type of gambler and you are going to be doing a lot better as a casino. Otherwise what is even the point of it?

I am not saying that it is impossible to make money as a casino by doing just one game, it is totally possible and we have many places that offer only one type, like for example many that does only dice, or know one that does only blackjack, but with more and more games then it becomes easier to get all those other people to get involved as well. Plus you are available to do marketing to wider arrangement of people as well, which is an important thing to make marketing easier.

[timerland]

We cannot do anything about it, it's only for verified user and it is probably to protect and to comply with their terms and condition or AML policy. We should know that they are legally regulated casino that's why they should follow some policy like this and only verified users would be able to participate on their promotion on the other hand I think it is safe to submit KYC to Bitsler as they are operating for years now and I don't see any issues about the KYC.

I would still be careful.

Some licenses count more than others and I'm fairly sure that Bitsler doesn't necessarily have a license to operate in countries like the U.S., and the owners are still anonymous?

I'm not disputing their reputation by any means but it just pays to be safe. Bet low amounts if you aren't willing to take the risk.

[ralle14]

What was the coupon all about? I received an email earlier today about a Christmas coupon but when I tried to click the link it follows up with an error message.

How about you guys? What did you get from their Christmas coupon?

[shasan]

When we want to do KYC, we must make sure that the site can take care of the personal identity of their members in a safe place and not abuse the identity because right now, we do not know if they have already become a target or still safe from the hacker.

Almost all the exchanges ask to very their users kyc and many of them already been hacked. For that reason what we have been able to do against them? Nothing! So, if any gambling site can be hacked then nothing to do. And also, no exchange or gambling site wants to be hacked. Every exchange and gambling sites wants to be safe and keep safe to their users.

[Furious 7]

When we want to do KYC, we must make sure that the site can take care of the personal identity of their members in a safe place and not abuse the identity because right now, we do not know if they have already become a target or still safe from the hacker.

Almost all the exchanges ask to very their users kyc and many of them already been hacked. For that reason what we have been able to do against them? Nothing! So, if any gambling site can be hacked then nothing to do. And also, no exchange or gambling site wants to be hacked. Every exchange and gambling sites wants to be safe and keep safe to their users.

We all don't know what will happen in the future but gambling sites must be very safe with tight security even though we don't know that this has become a target for hackers, but I don't think this will happen in a short time basically we believe in our identities in them safe.
Almost the same as the legality that KYC is now required on exchanges and gambling even though it is rarely KYC on gambling, but I will feel safe if the gambling site is trusted.

[traderethereum]

When we want to do KYC, we must make sure that the site can take care of the personal identity of their members in a safe place and not abuse the identity because right now, we do not know if they have already become a target or still safe from the hacker.

Almost all the exchanges ask to very their users kyc and many of them already been hacked. For that reason what we have been able to do against them? Nothing! So, if any gambling site can be hacked then nothing to do. And also, no exchange or gambling site wants to be hacked. Every exchange and gambling sites wants to be safe and keep safe to their users.

What you say is right and I fully agree.
Fortunately, we have DEX that can be a bridge for those people who do not want to verify themselves and do not want to send any documents.
DEX comes to us and offers that they do not need users to do KYC as they do not care who they are.
Users will have the option where they should play gambling or use the exchange because they will know how to select that gambling site and the exchange.

[RealMalatesta]

Almost all the exchanges ask to very their users kyc and many of them already been hacked. For that reason what we have been able to do against them? Nothing! So, if any gambling site can be hacked then nothing to do. And also, no exchange or gambling site wants to be hacked. Every exchange and gambling sites wants to be safe and keep safe to their users.

What you say is right and I fully agree.
Fortunately, we have DEX that can be a bridge for those people who do not want to verify themselves and do not want to send any documents.
DEX comes to us and offers that they do not need users to do KYC as they do not care who they are.
Users will have the option where they should play gambling or use the exchange because they will know how to select that gambling site and the exchange.

Swaps could only work within the confines of crypto world if you are already in it, if you want to get in with your fiat then swaps will not work at all. This is why I feel like there is a good case to be made about the KYC situation for places like coinbase or binance or whatever where you send your fiat in and take crypto out. After that you are right you could deal with swaps and do not have to give your KYC because there is no centralized organization to take your KYC in those situations, but to get there you have to share it.

The only people who never have to share are the people who earn crypto and never take it out to fiat, just keep it at crypto. Eventually they will have to obviously, or they may end up buying something with it I suppose?

[Japinat]

When we want to do KYC, we must make sure that the site can take care of the personal identity of their members in a safe place and not abuse the identity because right now, we do not know if they have already become a target or still safe from the hacker.

Almost all the exchanges ask to very their users kyc and many of them already been hacked. For that reason what we have been able to do against them? Nothing! So, if any gambling site can be hacked then nothing to do. And also, no exchange or gambling site wants to be hacked. Every exchange and gambling sites wants to be safe and keep safe to their users.

No one is exempted from the minds of the hackers, the moment we share our information online, it's always vulnerable from hacking whether you share it with the most reputable gambling sites as no system is perfect. However, it's still recommended to trust a reputable gambling site for your information as they are well regulated and they'll protect your information and keep it confidential.

[traderethereum]

Almost all the exchanges ask to very their users kyc and many of them already been hacked. For that reason what we have been able to do against them? Nothing! So, if any gambling site can be hacked then nothing to do. And also, no exchange or gambling site wants to be hacked. Every exchange and gambling sites wants to be safe and keep safe to their users.

What you say is right and I fully agree.
Fortunately, we have DEX that can be a bridge for those people who do not want to verify themselves and do not want to send any documents.
DEX comes to us and offers that they do not need users to do KYC as they do not care who they are.
Users will have the option where they should play gambling or use the exchange because they will know how to select that gambling site and the exchange.

Swaps could only work within the confines of crypto world if you are already in it, if you want to get in with your fiat then swaps will not work at all. This is why I feel like there is a good case to be made about the KYC situation for places like coinbase or binance or whatever where you send your fiat in and take crypto out. After that you are right you could deal with swaps and do not have to give your KYC because there is no centralized organization to take your KYC in those situations, but to get there you have to share it.

The only people who never have to share are the people who earn crypto and never take it out to fiat, just keep it at crypto. Eventually they will have to obviously, or they may end up buying something with it I suppose?

If those places such as Binance or other reputable exchanges or casinos or whatever can be trusted, I think we do not have to feel worried if we want to do KYC because they will make sure to give protection for their customer's data.
But in another case, when those people have a big asset but want to hide from sending documents for KYC, they will search for the other way that can help them get the fiat without verification.
But if they only want to hold the coin without having an intention to sell, they do not have to bother searching for the site that does not apply KYC or apply KYC.
But they can use their coins to buy something out there but still, they need an address to receive the product, which means they are still giving their data to the site unless they use a fake address or PO BOX.

[doomloop]

If those places such as Binance or other reputable exchanges or casinos or whatever can be trusted, I think we do not have to feel worried if we want to do KYC because they will make sure to give protection for their customer's data.
But in another case, when those people have a big asset but want to hide from sending documents for KYC, they will search for the other way that can help them get the fiat without verification.
But if they only want to hold the coin without having an intention to sell, they do not have to bother searching for the site that does not apply KYC or apply KYC.
But they can use their coins to buy something out there but still, they need an address to receive the product, which means they are still giving their data to the site unless they use a fake address or PO BOX.

I would say if you want to just hold the coin and not give any KYC to anywhere, just use the coins wallet and not an exchange, even a hardware wallet would be more than enough to be fair. I have some wallets on my pc, and saved all the possible backups on paper and on an USB as well.

I have a few of my coins and tokens there, it makes sense because I do not need to really deal with exchanges or anything like that and my computer is as safe as it gets compared to a multi-billion dollar company.

Not because they have worse security than me, they have 100000x better security than me but nobody cares about me and my small few bucks which wouldn't even worth getting hacked whereas binance or other big places are getting attacked constantly and they are just good at defending, the moment they fail to defend would be the moment they crash as well.

[traderethereum]

If those places such as Binance or other reputable exchanges or casinos or whatever can be trusted, I think we do not have to feel worried if we want to do KYC because they will make sure to give protection for their customer's data.
But in another case, when those people have a big asset but want to hide from sending documents for KYC, they will search for the other way that can help them get the fiat without verification.
But if they only want to hold the coin without having an intention to sell, they do not have to bother searching for the site that does not apply KYC or apply KYC.
But they can use their coins to buy something out there but still, they need an address to receive the product, which means they are still giving their data to the site unless they use a fake address or PO BOX.

I would say if you want to just hold the coin and not give any KYC to anywhere, just use the coins wallet and not an exchange, even a hardware wallet would be more than enough to be fair. I have some wallets on my pc, and saved all the possible backups on paper and on an USB as well.

I have a few of my coins and tokens there, it makes sense because I do not need to really deal with exchanges or anything like that and my computer is as safe as it gets compared to a multi-billion dollar company.

Not because they have worse security than me, they have 100000x better security than me but nobody cares about me and my small few bucks which wouldn't even worth getting hacked whereas binance or other big places are getting attacked constantly and they are just good at defending, the moment they fail to defend would be the moment they crash as well.

You are absolutely right.
We can follow your step to secure our coins and not store our coins in the exchange, especially if we want to avoid KYC, which will be a nightmare if the exchange gets hacked.
I remember a story from my friends. He has an old smartphone but he installed multi-wallet apps to store some of his coins and suddenly, that smartphone is on somewhere he does not know.
He realizes that and yells that the smartphone is worth billions of dollars, although the real price of that smartphone is just less than $200.
Short story, he found his smartphone in his safety box and he forgot that he moved his smartphone on that box last night hahaha.
It is better to use apps that have an exchange inside the wallet so we do not have to send the coins to any exchange and only send to the exchange if we want to withdraw the funds.

[shasan]

Code:

https://www.bitsler.com/coupon/happy2022

Have you received this coupon? It has been sent to me via telegram notification as well as via email? I have not wanted to opened the coupon as I am not playing on that site now a days. But fortunately it has been opened by an unknown click and received 24 usdt.

[panjul07]

Code:

https://www.bitsler.com/coupon/happy2022

Have you received this coupon? It has been sent to me via telegram notification as well as via email? I have not wanted to opened the coupon as I am not playing on that site now a days. But fortunately it has been opened by an unknown click and received 24 usdt.

Received the email but I'm not eligible for the coupon because its been a long time I did not play in Bitsler.
Actually the requirement is easy as it is only making $10 bet in the last 90 days but since I'm off in Bitsler since long time ago then I'm not eligible for this promo.
I'm not sure about the amount of the bonus, is it equal to all players or is it based on user's level account?

[doomloop]

We can follow your step to secure our coins and not store our coins in the exchange, especially if we want to avoid KYC, which will be a nightmare if the exchange gets hacked.
I remember a story from my friends. He has an old smartphone but he installed multi-wallet apps to store some of his coins and suddenly, that smartphone is on somewhere he does not know.
He realizes that and yells that the smartphone is worth billions of dollars, although the real price of that smartphone is just less than $200.
Short story, he found his smartphone in his safety box and he forgot that he moved his smartphone on that box last night hahaha.
It is better to use apps that have an exchange inside the wallet so we do not have to send the coins to any exchange and only send to the exchange if we want to withdraw the funds.

It is not even that hard is it? I mean it is obvious and yet some people or even some companies fail to see it. The problem is not really an exchange or a casino or anything like that, it is that you have it all in one place and if you fail to find that one place and get back in there, you lost all of your money for forever.

Instead if you have it on your computer on a wallet, you could put it on an USB, write it on a piece of paper and many other things which would mean that there is going to be something you could recover.

I mean sure you could have your computer break down, my computer is 10+ years old and it has problems all the time but a computer in my nation is like 1k dollars and I do not want to spend that, so I am "risking" all of my crypto right now, yet I have them all on my USB (in fact on my wife's USB as well) and I have it written down on my notebook as well. It means if anything happens to my PC, I could easily get it all back in an hour with a new PC.

[Baskin198]

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[decodx]

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I see that your case is now resolved:

After threatening them I will report on forum, THEY ADDED THE XP POINTS. But I am not removing this thread ever, everyone should know about this, unless they give me a reason why they excluded me.

But, as I have already said in the topic in question, it would be good if they were a little more transparent in this case. Did you get any response from the support why XP points were disabled for you? Maybe @BitSler support might be able to shed some light on this.