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April 24, 2024, 12:11:14 PM
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I have another idea,

The puzzle creator said the only thing all the private keys have in common, is that all of them were created from a HD wallet, and then masked from the left with zeros.

Is it any weakness on the HD method of creating wallets? I mean, with the number of private keys already revealed, we could just try to target the searches for the the master private key that was used in the HD wallet.

What do you think?

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April 24, 2024, 12:14:46 PM
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I have another idea,

The puzzle creator said the only thing all the private keys have in common, is that all of them were created from a HD wallet, and then masked from the left with zeros.

Is it any weakness on the HD method of creating wallets? I mean, with the number of private keys already revealed, we could just try to target the searches for the the master private key that was used in the HD wallet.

What do you think?

Regards.

nice catch, go go go from me,
when update ready.
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April 24, 2024, 12:33:56 PM
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Is this puzzle really worth trying to solve? It's been close to a decade. Can someone give me a TL;DR?

There are several puzzles with different bits of diffculty it is exponential, puzzle 66 is 6.6 BTC BTC puzzle 67 is 6.7 BTC.

Puzzles prizes have been incremented in a x10 Factor two times since its creation.

Check the list of all unsolved puzzles.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vZyRZ67iNl7aIwYNB55OY8LvZLAaoBxSanxqnGMZlWA/edit?usp=sharing

There are some puzzles addres with publickey avaiable those have another method to be solved current unsolved with publickey is puzle 130 13 BTC

I have another idea,

The puzzle creator said the only thing all the private keys have in common, is that all of them were created from a HD wallet, and then masked from the left with zeros.

Is it any weakness on the HD method of creating wallets? I mean, with the number of private keys already revealed, we could just try to target the searches for the the master private key that was used in the HD wallet.

What do you think?

Regards.

I think that author or this puzzle may used a custom method to generate those keys

This puzzle is very strange. If it's for measuring the world's brute forcing capacity, 161-256 are just a waste (RIPEMD160 entropy is filled by 160, and by all of P2PKH Bitcoin). The puzzle creator could improve the puzzle's utility without bringing in any extra funds from outside - just spend 161-256 across to the unsolved portion 51-160, and roughly treble the puzzle's content density.

If on the other hand there's a pattern to find... well... that's awfully open-ended... can we have a hint or two? Cheesy

I am the creator.

You are quite right, 161-256 are silly.  I honestly just did not think of this.  What is especially embarrassing, is this did not occur to me once, in two years.  By way of excuse, I was not really thinking much about the puzzle at all.

I will make up for two years of stupidity.  I will spend from 161-256 to the unsolved parts, as you suggest.  In addition, I intend to add further funds.  My aim is to boost the density by a factor of 10, from 0.001*length(key) to 0.01*length(key).  Probably in the next few weeks.  At any rate, when I next have an extended period of quiet and calm, to construct the new transaction carefully.

A few words about the puzzle.  There is no pattern.  It is just consecutive keys from a deterministic wallet (masked with leading 000...0001 to set difficulty).  It is simply a crude measuring instrument, of the cracking strength of the community.

Finally, I wish to express appreciation of the efforts of all developers of new cracking tools and technology.  The "large bitcoin collider" is especially innovative and interesting!

He never mention HD wallet it only mentioned some deterministic wallet

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April 24, 2024, 01:11:23 PM
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i have access to a quantum comp

Imagine if an immensely advanced quantum computer suddenly start the mining generating 2,016  blocks within a minute, and then vanishes.This would skyrocket the Bitcoin mining difficulty by a factor of 20,160. Conventional miners worldwide would need to labor for 140 days instead of the usual 10 minutes to uncover the hash value of a solitary block. Consequently, the blockchain would come to a standstill, halting all Bitcoin transactions during this period.  Grin
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April 24, 2024, 01:22:26 PM
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This would skyrocket the Bitcoin mining difficulty by a factor of 20,160.
The max it can go is 4x at once.

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April 24, 2024, 01:47:04 PM
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Imagine a Bitcoin giveaway with 1 BTC up for grabs. The host exposes the address and private key (a big no-no!). This creates a race condition:

• Many people try to send a transaction at once (the race starts!).
• Transactions need miner confirmation, not instantaneous processing. It's like waiting in line at a bank.
• Miners prioritize transactions with higher fees, like a fast lane with a toll.
• Person A starts first, but sets a low fee. Their transaction waits in the regular line.
• Person B sends a smaller amount with a high fee. They pay extra to jump the line.
• The block gets filled, and only transactions including Person B's smaller amount fit. It's confirmed first.
• Person A's transaction might still be valid, but there's not enough remaining to cover their intended amount + fees. They get a partial payout or nothing.

Conclusion:
Timing and fees, not starting order, determine the winner.


Source : Google Gemini
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April 24, 2024, 02:48:25 PM
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Imagine a Bitcoin giveaway with 1 BTC up for grabs. The host exposes the address and private key (a big no-no!). This creates a race condition:

• Many people try to send a transaction at once (the race starts!).
• Transactions need miner confirmation, not instantaneous processing. It's like waiting in line at a bank.
• Miners prioritize transactions with higher fees, like a fast lane with a toll.
• Person A starts first, but sets a low fee. Their transaction waits in the regular line.
• Person B sends a smaller amount with a high fee. They pay extra to jump the line.
• The block gets filled, and only transactions including Person B's smaller amount fit. It's confirmed first.
• Person A's transaction might still be valid, but there's not enough remaining to cover their intended amount + fees. They get a partial payout or nothing.

Conclusion:
Timing and fees, not starting order, determine the winner.


Source : Google Gemini


Someone is going to be angry with this... Roll Eyes Grin
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April 24, 2024, 06:30:00 PM
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Imagine a Bitcoin giveaway with 1 BTC up for grabs. The host exposes the address and private key (a big no-no!). This creates a race condition:

• Many people try to send a transaction at once (the race starts!).
• Transactions need miner confirmation, not instantaneous processing. It's like waiting in line at a bank.
• Miners prioritize transactions with higher fees, like a fast lane with a toll.
• Person A starts first, but sets a low fee. Their transaction waits in the regular line.
• Person B sends a smaller amount with a high fee. They pay extra to jump the line.
• The block gets filled, and only transactions including Person B's smaller amount fit. It's confirmed first.
• Person A's transaction might still be valid, but there's not enough remaining to cover their intended amount + fees. They get a partial payout or nothing.

Conclusion:
Timing and fees, not starting order, determine the winner.


Source : Google Gemini

You write well as per reference
But hand on practice is different
For example private key
Dec 2
Hex 2
Load Pk and see there is unconfirmed tx
See why it's not completed, analyze this tx , you will learn something, similar same lot of tx unconfirmed from 4 months , some people's still trying to hand on practice, and I have completed this subject,

13sXkWqtivcMtNGQpskD78iqsgVy9hcHLF
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April 24, 2024, 10:13:40 PM
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https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/04/24/r29lN.gif
I removed the key number 65 and it is very strange that you can see all the signs of the key! This is not normal.
I drew a line from the starting point of key number 65 to the center of the circle.
The degree and length of the line in mm units correspond to the first few numbers of key 65!
Line degree: 35.68 and line length 73.72
What magic is there really? This cannot be unrelated to the production of keys.
35.68 has become 30568 and 73.72 has become 3773.
What's really going on???
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April 25, 2024, 06:57:12 AM
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It's too easy to crack. Why are they prizing too high? It seems fishy
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April 25, 2024, 10:19:56 AM
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unfortunately it appears that bots are flooding this thread again. Please stay away from chatGPT and stop flooding this thread with non-sense. That won't help either your psychotic disease nor anyone else reading here.

god bless you

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April 25, 2024, 11:12:16 AM
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Solving the puzzle with the magic circle is BS. If it was that simple, it would have already been solved.
I bet digaran is joking with us again. Grin
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April 25, 2024, 11:32:41 AM
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I am not digaran.
If my posts are bothering you and it is not worth it at all, I will stop posting. But know that there are many things that definitely helped to solve the keys.
My problem is my lack of knowledge in mathematics and I thought that there are people here who understand correctly.
This circle is not a simple thing, you only see a part of it.
I have been watching the thread since today like many others.
I do not post anything
Those of you who know, write and comment...
Of course, those who want to follow me or even have an opinion or idea can join this Telegram group:
https://t.me/bitcoinsolvers
It is definitely not mandatory to enter this channel and everyone can talk without restrictions without being ridiculed and the only thing that is not acceptable is insulting and mocking others.
We know that once upon a time there were people who had ideas and were even attacked and ridiculed for expressing their ideas, but with the passage of time, everyone came to that idea and theory. One of those people is Galileo... you all heard his story
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April 25, 2024, 02:26:03 PM
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Solving the puzzle with the magic circle is BS. If it was that simple, it would have already been solved.
I bet digaran is joking with us again. Grin


He is not joking ... He is mentally ill.
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April 25, 2024, 05:43:13 PM
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I am not digaran.
If my posts are bothering you and it is not worth it at all, I will stop posting. But know that there are many things that definitely helped to solve the keys.
My problem is my lack of knowledge in mathematics and I thought that there are people here who understand correctly.
This circle is not a simple thing, you only see a part of it.
I have been watching the thread since today like many others.
I do not post anything
Those of you who know, write and comment...
Of course, those who want to follow me or even have an opinion or idea can join this Telegram group:
https://t.me/bitcoinsolvers
It is definitely not mandatory to enter this channel and everyone can talk without restrictions without being ridiculed and the only thing that is not acceptable is insulting and mocking others.
We know that once upon a time there were people who had ideas and were even attacked and ridiculed for expressing their ideas, but with the passage of time, everyone came to that idea and theory. One of those people is Galileo... you all heard his story

What is your hypothesis? that the creator has used the circle to generate the private keys?
The truth is I don't know how it could because except for the case of puzzle 65, for the rest it doesn't comply with those rules. For example, in the case of puzzle 64, the first digits of its private key are not formed with the radius of the circle and the angle, and this does not occur for the rest of the known puzzles either.
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April 25, 2024, 05:53:36 PM
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I am not digaran.
If my posts are bothering you and it is not worth it at all, I will stop posting. But know that there are many things that definitely helped to solve the keys.
My problem is my lack of knowledge in mathematics and I thought that there are people here who understand correctly.
This circle is not a simple thing, you only see a part of it.
I have been watching the thread since today like many others.
I do not post anything
Those of you who know, write and comment...
Of course, those who want to follow me or even have an opinion or idea can join this Telegram group:
https://t.me/bitcoinsolvers
It is definitely not mandatory to enter this channel and everyone can talk without restrictions without being ridiculed and the only thing that is not acceptable is insulting and mocking others.
We know that once upon a time there were people who had ideas and were even attacked and ridiculed for expressing their ideas, but with the passage of time, everyone came to that idea and theory. One of those people is Galileo... you all heard his story

It's kind of delusion... You know. our mind looks for pattern for anything and finally it finds Smiley But, it is important to consider that in this concept (Randomness) you can't use any sort of pattern in order to find the key. otherwise it's not "random".

Good luck
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April 26, 2024, 06:00:58 AM
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It's kind of delusion... You know. our mind looks for pattern for anything and finally it finds Smiley

Apophenia is a mental disorder to see connections and patterns between unrelated or random things that are not really there—gives rise to conspiracy theories. Cry
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April 26, 2024, 06:29:26 AM
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No, that's definitely not what I meant, and I'm looking for a bug in wallet key generation.
  Creator said these are sequential keys from the wallet. Errors are possible. It cannot be denied. Now why did I check the keys in this way? If you want to do what the software does for me with programming, I think it will be heavy and time consuming. But in Adobe Illustrator, a lot of things are automated and I can see the changes in real time.
The problem is that you think I did all this stuff and the layout of the numbers myself, all I did was not draw a spiral circle and type the search keys one after the other and start changing the font size and spacing. Their numbers and degrees
    I got some weird stuff in some settings.
Normally nothing special is observed. I increased the font size to 11 and tested the distance between the numbers from 0 to 320, and in this case we can see some initial numbers of the keys on the opposite side.
You said that the radius and degree are correct only for the number 65 and not for 64. But I suggest you draw a line from the starting point of key number 64 to the center of the circle, you will get the wrong result. For the correct result, draw the same line as the mirror of that line from the center of the circle to the point opposite the beginning of key 64, it reaches 177.99 degrees. What is the reason for this?
Draw a diameter and start rotating with the center of the circle. You will see that the degree value corresponds to the numbers that the line crosses and there are only a few dots. You will see the numbers on the opposite side. What is the cause of this?
   Why do the key numbers correspond to the degree value? Is the reason for this a coincidence?
Why do we get correct results when the font size is 11 and the spacing between numbers is 320?
What is the relationship between 11 and 320 and wallet keys?
You say to yourself, why don't I open the 66 key? Well, this circle also covers other keys that have not been discovered yet, and there are other numbers on the path of radius, diameter, and degree, which is why I shared the same opinion. to find the correct numbers. which was ridiculed by some people. There is no problem, history has always shown that every new thought and idea is met with ridicule at first, and I did not lose anything. I am not a genius and I used my career to find the key.
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April 26, 2024, 07:41:48 AM
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Errors are possible.

Nope. There is an exact math formula for making this puzzle with some script, errors = ZERO.  
He used used a custom method like: "Type 1 Deterministic Wallet"
Masked with leading 000...0001 to set difficulty. There is no error here in arithemitic precision.

https://thebookofbitcoin.github.io/html/storage/deterministic_wallets.html

Everything else is a conspiracy theory.
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April 26, 2024, 03:16:36 PM
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Let's look at it another way! Shocked
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The video and the source of all these works are in the Telegram channel and you can download them.
https://t.me/bitcoinsolvers
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