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Author Topic: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it  (Read 283908 times)
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December 20, 2023, 08:46:42 AM
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I guess it is not big deal. it should be possible to solve in one day or so.


To find a 66-bit private key within 10 days, we would need to check approximately 200 (billion) giga/hashes - addresses per second.  It doesn't matter if it's an even or odd number. The only way to make this that fast is aliens to land and solve this.. Grin

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The only way to make this that fast is aliens to land and solve this.. Grin

Maybe this code. I don't know what else to think of Smiley
Code:
// Get Key from hash160
Int b160key;
b160key.SetInt32(0);
uint32_t *b = (uint32_t *)hash160;
//uint32_t *b = (uint32_t *)h0;
for (int i = 0; i < 5; i++) {
    b160key.bits[i] = b[i];
}
printf("\n b160key: %s", b160key.GetBase16().c_str());// for check
//
To check, it prints in reverse order - this is correct.
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December 20, 2023, 02:55:32 PM
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What 3rd key? Digaran ...please if you don't understand what I posted then ask...and nicely too for that matter. Just because our ideas and methods do not align does not mean yours is superior. And certainly put me in touch with the creator of the puzzle...I'll certainly tell him the first 4 digits of the private key of puzzle 130 for that 1 bitcoin and even gave a 110 bit range for it.
Puzzle 130 = first key. End range = second key. Their difference = third key. Maybe you should read your post again. Here is the deal, I will give you a public key, just tell me the first character of it's private key, you have 14 characters to choose from but only 1 correct guess. If you can't, then we'll have nothing to discuss on this subject.
Code:
022d410abfc76bc647c29819c3349c8a59c84af25feedf59b932643d10299660f0

Edit, I tried looking in my pockets, but couldn't find the creator of this puzzle, let me check the closet. Lol. If you want to get in touch, solve a puzzle, they will find you, don't worry about the time.😉

Can you explain the logic of the difference of a key by the end of the range etc? I cannot see any valid argument in this.
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What 3rd key? Digaran ...please if you don't understand what I posted then ask...and nicely too for that matter. Just because our ideas and methods do not align does not mean yours is superior. And certainly put me in touch with the creator of the puzzle...I'll certainly tell him the first 4 digits of the private key of puzzle 130 for that 1 bitcoin and even gave a 110 bit range for it.
Puzzle 130 = first key. End range = second key. Their difference = third key. Maybe you should read your post again. Here is the deal, I will give you a public key, just tell me the first character of it's private key, you have 14 characters to choose from but only 1 correct guess. If you can't, then we'll have nothing to discuss on this subject.
Code:
022d410abfc76bc647c29819c3349c8a59c84af25feedf59b932643d10299660f0

Edit, I tried looking in my pockets, but couldn't find the creator of this puzzle, let me check the closet. Lol. If you want to get in touch, solve a puzzle, they will find you, don't worry about the time.😉

Can you explain the logic of the difference of a key by the end of the range etc? I cannot see any valid argument in this.

No one can do this. And Digaran won't be able to.
I will try to explain what the asymmetric encryption algorithm secp128k1 means. And why, you will never find the relationship by the beginning or ending bytes, between the private and public key. For example:
1. I wished for 2 factors and tell you the remainder of the modulo division.
Can someone tell me what numbers I multiplied? No he can’t!!!
If he can, it means he broke EC
2. This operation of multiplication and division modulo is performed 130 times in this case.
3. There is only linearity in modulo multiplication and division operations.
Well, let's start breaking the EC? I guessed two factors, the result of division modulo _P is equal to:
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0x9478230a3fb794b615ac8f97768ab8feb86784804ef03de53ec26f8cbfbc37f5
Digaran please tell me the multipliers, I  2 multipliers. Or anyone.  Grin
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December 20, 2023, 06:42:48 PM
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Maybe this code. I don't know what else to think of Smiley

I sent you a PM what to look at.... Smiley

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Ok, so, when I first found out about this puzzle and started looking into it earlier this year, I was initially working under the assumption that there would be some clues or patterns that could be found to help unlock the remaining wallets... But, of course, I now know what you all already knew: There are no clues or patterns, at least nothing included intentionally by the person who created and funded these wallets...

However, I recently revisited my pattern-finding script, looking instead for any bias(es) in the data that I might be able to find (created by the pseudo-random number generator, or by assumptions built into the wallet generator's code, etc) to at least help shrink the given search spaces as much as possible, and I think I may have (possibly, maybe) found one... The problem is that even if I'm right, I just don't have the computing power to test my theory, nor the funds to buy/rent it, and won't for the foreseeable future... So I'm just going to post it here, in the hopes that, if it is useful at all, then whoever uses this to help them open any of the remaining wallets will be generous enough to kick-back a percentage of the winnings (my BTC address is bc1qmzud9l4aedq6h73efaj3vg3fdqhgv8w4ktq0pt) Wink

Ok, so, my theory goes like this: I initially looked at all of the known pkeys (as decimal numbers, not hex) and calculated their location within the given puzzle's search space as a percentage, like this for Puzzle #11:

Code:
Hex: 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000483
Hex as Decimal: 1155
Search Space: 1024 to 2047
Percent: (1155 - 1024) / (2047 - 1024) = 12.8%

Now, if that math is wrong, then I'm already screwed and you can give-up now Tongue

But after doing that for all the known pkeys, and looking at all the results, I didn't see any pattern, so I gave up and moved on to the next possible pattern I could think of... However, when I went back looking for a bias in the data instead of an outright pattern, I believe I have found that certain percentages (when just looking at the whole number... so 12% for the above example, instead of 12.8%) do (seemingly) occur more often than most...

I first grouped them by the tens (so 20 for 20-29, and 30 for 30-39, etc) and here's the results:

Code:
Tens  Count  Percents
60    13     62,63,64,64,64,65,66,66,66,67,68,69,69
30    9      31,31,32,33,33,35,36,36,38
40    9      40,43,43,44,45,45,46,46,49
10    7      10,12,13,17,17,19,19
90    7      91,92,92,95,95,96,97
80    6      82,82,82,82,82,87
20    6      22,23,23,27,28,28
50    5      50,51,51,54,57
70    5      70,72,72,75,75
0     4      0,6,8,9

So, looking at it that way, you can see that it seems like the 60-69% range hits way more often than the average... But even searching 10% of any given search space is still a crap-ton of brute-forcing to do, so I kept looking and noticed that certain individual numbers show-up more often than others, so next I grouped more simply by just the whole number:

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Count  Percents
5      82
3      64,66
2      17,19,23,28,31,33,36,43,45,46,51,69,72,75,92,95
1      0,6,8,9,10,12,13,22,27,32,35,38,40,44,49,50,54,57,62,63,65,67,68,70,87,91,96,97

And here it appears as though the 82% range occurs way more often than any other, followed closely by 64% and 66% (which occur 3 times each)... Which could (again, theoretically) let you search only 1-3% of any given search space... But, unfortunately, that's still way too much brute-forcing for me to even attempt, given that there's no way to know which of the remaining pkeys will hit these ranges (and so you'd have to try several before finding a hit...)

...and that's assuming that this is a true bias in the data, and not just a coincidence that would even-out over time, which is the other possible way I can think of that this theory could completely fail: Maybe all the keys that could be found within the eighty-two-point-something percent range of their search space (for example) have already been found, leaving the others that have only hit once or twice so far to "catch up", statistically speaking...

Anyway, am I just an idiot, or does this make any sense to y'all...?
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Please stop. Search help. This thread became less usefull since you've entered it. Your base conversions and maths are stupid. Nobody wil ever benefit of your "works". Thank you.
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December 21, 2023, 03:46:41 AM
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Please stop. Search help. This thread became less usefull since you've entered it. Your base conversions and maths are stupid. Nobody wil ever benefit of your "works". Thank you.
It looks like a flood and an advertisement for a mixer.
I don't comment on his posts. Im added user digaran to ignore list. My patience has run out Smiley
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December 21, 2023, 07:41:17 AM
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Ok, so, when I first found out about this puzzle and started looking into it earlier this year, I was initially working under the assumption that there would be some clues or patterns that could be found to help unlock the remaining wallets...
But, of course, I now know what you all already knew: There are no clues or patterns, at least nothing included intentionally by the person who created and funded these wallets...

This already shows the irrelevance of the following miserable attempt to discover a pattern.
[---snip---]

imagine #130 is at 0.9%
if you approached this puzzle with your mindset, you would have failed miserably due to depleted resources, both financial and time. If you had not died before.

Please don't get me wrong, this is not a criticism of your skills but an indication of how people can be misled by a lack of imagination or understanding, especially when it comes to very large numbers.

Some signs are invisible, some paths are hidden - but those who see, know what to do. Follow the trail - Follow your intuition - [bc1qqnrjshpjpypepxvuagatsqqemnyetsmvzqnafh]
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December 21, 2023, 08:04:22 AM
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Ok, so, when I first found out about this puzzle and started looking into it earlier this year, I was initially working under the assumption that there would be some clues or patterns that could be found to help unlock the remaining wallets...
But, of course, I now know what you all already knew: There are no clues or patterns, at least nothing included intentionally by the person who created and funded these wallets...

This already shows the irrelevance of the following miserable attempt to discover a pattern.
[---snip---]

imagine #130 is at 0.9%
if you approached this puzzle with your mindset, you would have failed miserably due to depleted resources, both financial and time. If you had not died before.

Please don't get me wrong, this is not a criticism of your skills but an indication of how people can be misled by a lack of imagination or understanding, especially when it comes to very large numbers.

Almost like 10^18  😉
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Please don't get me wrong, this is not a criticism of your skills but an indication of how people can be misled by a lack of imagination or understanding, especially when it comes to very large numbers.

Absolutely right. We can use an example to explain what a very large number looks like. Such numbers will be difficult to visualize in your mind when imagining their quantity. For example:
On planet earth, on all the beaches in the world, the number of grains of sand is 2^77. Now imagine that every grain of sand is planet earth. Now count the number of grains of sand on all planets Smiley There are only 2^154. You don’t have to imagine anymore 2^256 is probably the size of the universe in light years Smiley
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December 21, 2023, 11:09:08 AM
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Cuda can make this number of combinations per second?

You can measure it.

The "mersenne twister" is something that has been especially adapted for Nvidia to use at a thread level within threads of the same warp using thread id calls as seeds. See paper here:
http://developer.download.nvidia.com/compute/cuda/2_2/sdk/website/projects/MersenneTwister/doc/MersenneTwister.pdf

Look here average PRNGs speed
https://developer.nvidia.com/gpugems/gpugems3/part-vi-gpu-computing/chapter-37-efficient-random-number-generation-and-application

In the best case scenario, you will have 26 times over the quad-CPU machine.

And we need PRNGs Average Time:  0.000000000002  seconds to solve Puzzle 66  Grin

And then all other parts of the script no slower than this.


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December 21, 2023, 12:27:58 PM
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So, if we find it, from which wallet will we get the contents? Electrom? Or with what wallet? I'm very curious and I don't know. or bitcoin core wallet?
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Combinations is not a random generating! . Besides it's combinations of points on curve, not private keys.

 It is not feasible to directly select points on a curve that correspond to specific private key, especially without knowing the corresponding public key. Without the private key, it is virtually impossible to reverse the process.

On planet earth, on all the beaches in the world, the number of grains of sand is 2^77.
Now imagine people who add and subtract grains of sand to find the unique single grain in the desert (curve) .  Grin

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So, if we find it, from which wallet will we get the contents? Electrom? Or with what wallet? I'm very curious and I don't know. or bitcoin core wallet?
Range number telling how many public key we need for combinations, puzzle 66 needs 66 public keys for combinations, I can make video to proof what I am talking about. There are constant public keys you have to figure out it by yourself. I can share it with the creator of the puzzle for the purpose of this puzzle. I just want say HD wallet not safe because its zero padding system.

Just crack the puzzle then and stop talking ... It starts to be annoying that more and more people here shows weird ideas but in fact they know nothing.
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Just crack the puzzle then and stop talking ... It starts to be annoying that more and more people here shows weird ideas but in fact they know nothing.

agreed. this topic became a land of crazy logics that are just waste of time. to find #66 you need an optimized script with CUDA and enought computing power, everything besides this are just vaporware.
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So, if we find it, from which wallet will we get the contents? Electrom? Or with what wallet? I'm very curious and I don't know. or bitcoin core wallet?
Range number telling how many public key we need for combinations, puzzle 66 needs 66 public keys for combinations, I can make video to proof what I am talking about. There are constant public keys you have to figure out it by yourself. I can share it with the creator of the puzzle for the purpose of this puzzle. I just want say HD wallet not safe because its zero padding system.

Just crack the puzzle then and stop talking ... It starts to be annoying that more and more people here shows weird ideas but in fact they know nothing.
I believe that's the way it should be, everyone has to start from somewhere, *I started my journey here as well. Talking like that to every newbie coming here trying to share ideas and learn is really discouraging. We have to teach them with kindness and patience, otherwise they'd never learn. Besides, this is a forum to talk about things, learn and teach, not a place for a selected few to quickly learn the ultimate tricks and empty all the puzzle keys to place more sats on their stash.

There is a solution for anyone without tolerance to read such posts, if you all just ignore everyone you don't like, then you'll never have to come here at all, because you have problems with everyone. But honestly this is not an accepted behaviour we keep seeing for the past few month. However if you could join the bitching party with your main accounts, then we'd have something to talk about, until then stick to the dig's rules = be kind to everyone and be patient, we'd like to see new comers unlocking their true potentials by our help, not to suppress their talents by such discouraging behaviour.

Note, I'm not pointing fingers at anyone specific, but they know who they are.

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Btw, in puzzle 66 there is no public key involved, it's unknown.

First: I believe it's obvious for everyone here that public keys are available only for every 5th address in the whole puzzle. And I also believe eveeryone here understand what does it mean and how it affect the ability of cracking a private key to such address.

As for the rest:  I think in this thread only valuable ideas like new tools or new way of approach to puzzle cracking should be shared. We can't write every thought here cause it will become one big mess.

The worst posts here are pathetic attepmts to sell you a range where a private key lies or some sort of other "valuable" information.

Next one group are posts like yours Digaran where you shows some calculations/substractions/etc. that don't contribute anything constructive into problem solving and nobody understands it.

There is also third annoying group of posts - "mystery posts". Some people like to pretend they know something but they don't want to share it with you now (of course they clearly don't know anything valuable but they like to sound mysterious).

Breaking  the 66 is impossible without MASSIVE computational power -some sort of GPU farm. I wouldn't count on luck here at all. It's all about power (and i guess that was the goal of this cracking challenge confusingly named "puzzle"). All we have here is blind brute forcing.

Breaking 130 is the same despite we have public key available but the range is incredibly massive. All we have here is brute forcing (pointless), BSGS and Kangaroo (pointless until you have hundreds or thousands of GPUs to solve it in resonable time).

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December 22, 2023, 02:31:10 PM
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First 4 Bytes of all solved 20:3F puzzle... Someone Notice Something Here ?

Puzzle: 02 frontHex: 00000003 Binary: 000000000000000000000000000011        Zeros: 0        Ones: 2 
Puzzle: 06 frontHex: 00000031 Binary: 000000000000000000000000110001        Zeros: 3        Ones: 3
Puzzle: 10 frontHex: 00000202 Binary: 000000000000000000001000000010        Zeros: 8        Ones: 2
Puzzle: 14 frontHex: 00002930 Binary: 000000000000000010100100110000        Zeros: 9        Ones: 5
Puzzle: 18 frontHex: 0003080d Binary: 000000000000110000100000001101        Zeros: 12       Ones: 6
Puzzle: 22 frontHex: 002de40f Binary: 000000001011011110010000001111        Zeros: 10       Ones: 12
Puzzle: 26 frontHex: 0340326e Binary: 000011010000000011001001101110        Zeros: 15       Ones: 11
puzzle: 30 frontHex: 3d94cd64 Binary: 111101100101001100110101100100        Zeros: 14        Ones: 16
puzzle: 34 frontHex: 34a65911 Binary: 110100101001100101100100010001        Zeros: 17        Ones: 13
puzzle: 38 frontHex: 22382fac Binary: 100010001110000010111110101100        Zeros: 16        Ones: 14
puzzle: 42 frontHex: 2a221c58 Binary: 101010001000100001110001011000        Zeros: 19        Ones: 11
puzzle: 46 frontHex: 2ec18388 Binary: 101110110000011000001110001000        Zeros: 18        Ones: 12
puzzle: 50 frontHex: 22bd43c2 Binary: 100010101111010100001111000010        Zeros: 16        Ones: 14
puzzle: 54 frontHex: 236fb6d5 Binary: 100011011011111011011011010101        Zeros: 11        Ones: 19
puzzle: 58 frontHex: 2c675b85 Binary: 101100011001110101101110000101        Zeros: 14        Ones: 16
puzzle: 62 frontHex: 363d541e Binary: 110110001111010101010000011110        Zeros: 14        Ones: 16

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Last edit: December 22, 2023, 04:53:03 PM by alek76
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It will be much faster on the E8400 CPU Smiley 1 thread.
the mod 12. https://github.com/alek76-2/VanitySearch/tree/main/mod/012


Digaran. When phones with 64-bit CPUs appear, I will port the program code for the phone, especially for you Smiley
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