Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it

[GR Sasa]

@RetiredCoder how close are you to solve #135?

[RetiredCoder]

Some people here have made very strange conclusions. Again, to stop it:
1. I never said that I did not solve puzzles.
2. I never said that I used 20 GPUs for #125 and #130.
3. I have no idea how some people calculated time two months between solving #125 and #130   it was a year or so.

Reality is:
1. I used 20 GPUs for #120. I had to get access and use >100 GPUs for #125 and #130.
2. There is no magic in solving these puzzles, just pure math and skills. And some money.
3. I'm not puzzle creator, this is a ridiculous idea if you think about it.
4. I'm working on 135, but it will take a lot of time, I'm not in a hurry. If you think that you compete - welcome But 99% of people even cannot correctly calculate chances and cost of this game.
5. I want to share my experience in open source, step by step. But it won't be ready-to-use software so everyone can just run it and wait for money  

[alexxino]

Have you ever considered creating a pool to search the 135 quicker and split profits based on the found DPs?

[Akito S. M. Hosana]

Some people here have made very strange conclusions. Again, to stop it:
1. I never said that I did not solve puzzles.
2. I never said that I used 20 GPUs for #125 and #130.
3. I have no idea how some people calculated time two months between solving #125 and #130   it was a year or so.

Reality is:
1. I used 20 GPUs for #120. I had to get access and use >100 GPUs for #125 and #130.
2. There is no magic in solving these puzzles, just pure math and skills. And some money.
3. I'm not puzzle creator, this is a ridiculous idea if you think about it.
4. I'm working on 135, but it will take a lot of time, I'm not in a hurry. If you think that you compete - welcome But 99% of people even cannot correctly calculate chances and cost of this game.
5. I want to share my experience in open source, step by step. But it won't be ready-to-use software so everyone can just run it and wait for money  

Ah, so you’re saying it’s not magic, just math, GPUs, and a sprinkle of money? Got it. So, basically, you’re working with 100+ GPUs and flexing your math skills while the rest of us are still trying to figure out how to unlock ‘easy’ mode.

Also, I love how you casually mention 'not in a hurry,' because who wouldn’t want to spend a year unlocking puzzles that are probably more complex than my relationship with Wi-Fi signals?

But hey, thanks for sharing your secret with us mortals. I’ll just be over here calculating my chances of success... which are probably somewhere around 0.000001%. 😅

[albert0bsd]

3. I have no idea how some people calculated time two months between solving #125 and #130   it was a year or so.

That is true, it was a more than a year

Puzzle 120 was redeem on February  27, 2023 (anyone can check it here)
Puzzle 125 was redeem on July 9, 2023 (check it here)
Puzzle 130 was redeem on September 23, 2024 (check it here)

That was 1 year and two months between puzzle 125 and 130, with >100 GPU

wow that is still a world record no?

All of them were Nvidia 4090 ?

5. I want to share my experience in open source, step by step. But it won't be ready-to-use software so everyone can just run it and wait for money  

Nice that is fair, any information about the changes on kangaroo is welcome.

Thanks  for sharing your experience, btw i have three questions.

Why did you wait to much to announce it?
Did you receive external funding?
What is your ROI?

[brainless]

Good chit chat goings on
Do u remember bitcointalk user name MSN
It's appear right after puzzle 120 found, and all were asking who won that, and other Q related to findings
MSN user maybe I can say (Master Satoshi Nakamoto)
1 line post
"Simple math"
Long time I never see him online, nor posts
Here
Bro Retired coder, saying
"Pure math"

Let me define my logics
Simple math = +-x/
Pure math = +-x/*^, sqrt, cuberoot etc
Ecc math = above all + limit in-between mode N and prime order
Maybe be I correct or wrong
Compare KtimeG challenge game
KtimeG explain his finding By using pure math
And I explain it in above my posts with simple math

[kTimesG]

I found the "bug" of my previous attempts to increase DP without increasing runtime cofactor.

31 bits, DP 6

Code:

[1000] Ops: avg 48106 = 1.036 * sqrt(b) min 1164 max 119897 dp_ovh: 96.0 mul: 8.0
Stored footprints: avg    1719 min 44 max 4389

39 bits, DP 8

Code:

[20] Ops: avg 698950 = 0.942 * sqrt(b) min 219204 max 1848433 dp_ovh: 384.0 mul: 9.35
Stored footprints: avg    6410 min 1987 max 16978

47 bits, DP 10

Code:

[2] Ops: avg 11267030 = 0.950 * sqrt(b) min 7221075 max 15312985 dp_ovh: 1536.0 mul: 10.50
Stored footprints: avg   25820 min 16542 max 35099

No cycles. No "hey, let's create kangaroos and pretend they don't count as a group operation".

This only works for secp256k1. It is basically 100% faster than the usual approach.

I hope no one actually believes they can compete with RetiredCoder aka 3Emi. It looks like a billionaire's hobby, not a contest. It costs at least 500K to break 135, but he doesn't do it for the money, and I won't be a sheep.

[RetiredCoder]

I found the "bug" of my previous attempts to increase DP without increasing runtime cofactor.
39 bits, DP 8

Code:

[20] Ops: avg 698950 = 0.942 * sqrt(b) min 219204 max 1848433 dp_ovh: 384.0 mul: 9.35
Stored footprints: avg    6410 min 1987 max 16978

No cycles. No "hey, let's create kangaroos and pretend they don't count as a group operation".
This only works for secp256k1. It is basically 100% faster than the usual approach.

So basically you are saying that you have invented a new method with K<1.0 at DP>6? Without cycles? Are you sure?

[alexxino]

Totally true, that is a millionaire hobby and he broke the guiness record solving those puzzles but if we create a pool to contribute the search for 135, it can be the first puzzle in some time that has quite a good prize and can be shared between all the contributors. This way we can solve it in less that a year.

Any thoughts?

[kTimesG]

I found the "bug" of my previous attempts to increase DP without increasing runtime cofactor.
39 bits, DP 8

Code:

[20] Ops: avg 698950 = 0.942 * sqrt(b) min 219204 max 1848433 dp_ovh: 384.0 mul: 9.35
Stored footprints: avg    6410 min 1987 max 16978

No cycles. No "hey, let's create kangaroos and pretend they don't count as a group operation".
This only works for secp256k1. It is basically 100% faster than the usual approach.

So basically you are saying that you have invented a new method with K<1.0 at DP>6? Without cycles? Are you sure?

Yes. But it's more likely it's exactly 1.0.

[RetiredCoder]

I found the "bug" of my previous attempts to increase DP without increasing runtime cofactor.
39 bits, DP 8

Code:

[20] Ops: avg 698950 = 0.942 * sqrt(b) min 219204 max 1848433 dp_ovh: 384.0 mul: 9.35
Stored footprints: avg    6410 min 1987 max 16978

No cycles. No "hey, let's create kangaroos and pretend they don't count as a group operation".
This only works for secp256k1. It is basically 100% faster than the usual approach.

So basically you are saying that you have invented a new method with K<1.0 at DP>6? Without cycles? Are you sure?

Yes. But it's more likely it's exactly 1.0.

I bet you are wrong. Just check everything carefully and you will find a bug 

[Akito S. M. Hosana]

I hope no one actually believes they can compete with RetiredCoder aka 3Emi. It looks like a billionaire's hobby, not a contest. It costs at least 500K to break 135, but he doesn't do it for the money, and I won't be a sheep.

Looking at the ROI...I think the puzzle creator is competing with himself. 

[kTimesG]

I bet you are wrong. Just check everything carefully and you will find a bug 

I wouldn't believe it either, so that's fine. Everything is already checked, counted, and verified to be correct.

I verified it also for higher bit ranges, that jump on GPU.

Those figures are the total op count including DP overhead (complexity excludes DP overhead).

And I'm using more than 3 kangaroos. Pure math and skills, you should understand that.

But don't worry, I don't care anymore about this problem, so have fun with your experiment. I inserted a SHA hash in my older conjecture that this can be solved in ~1.0 sqrt, one day I might reveal what it contained.

[RetiredCoder]

Pure math and skills, you should understand that.

Exactly, skills are the key!

[karrask]

Pure math and skills, you should understand that.

Exactly, skills are the key!

You're right, mathematics provides the answers. I don't have extensive programming knowledge, but I have an idea of probability. (I use those programs that are written and publicly available. special thanks
to albert0bsd). I wish you good luck with the "135" puzzle, but...I'm going to compete with you anyway!

[brainless]

You all forget
Sensible math too only under simple math
Here is Q
You have 17 apple and 3 man
Divide them into 3 man as per share
1/9
1/3
1/2
Make sure no floating point in result
Correct Answer will guide you what sensible math could do inside your kangaroo programing

[casperas20]

Pure math and skills, you should understand that.

Exactly, skills are the key!

when u solved 120, the reward was 1.2 btc (sth like 23k $ by that time), but now u have sth like 2.3 mil  $.   how u feelin about that?

[nomachine]

u have sth like 2.3 mil  $.   how u feelin about that?

If someone really has 2.3 mil in Bitcoin, why would they spend so much time bragging about it on a forum?
I would never sign up here again. I would NOT be online anymore. Publicly announcing large sums could attract unwanted attention, including scammers or hackers. Or something much worse than that.

[albert0bsd]

If someone really has 2.3 mil in Bitcoin, why would they spend so much time bragging about it on a forum?
I would never sign up here again. I would NOT be online anymore. Publicly announcing large sums could attract unwanted attention, including scammers or hackers. Or something much worse than that.

Well I complety aggre with this, You're absolutely right.
RetiredCoder need to have some good OPSEC (operational security) is essential, especially when dealing with large amounts of money, like 2.3 million in Bitcoin.

The more you broadcast your holdings, the more you expose yourself to potential risks whether it’s phishing attacks, hackers, or even physical threats. Staying anonymous, using strong encryption, and keeping a low profile online are all key strategies to protect your assets. Being discreet with any financial information and avoiding flashy bragging can go a long way in ensuring personal security. People often underestimate the dangers of online visibility until it’s too late. (I talk by my own experience, some users here may remember my dispute with some other user in this forum). Lesson learned in a complicated way.

[sneeky777]

I don't understand why there was so much disbelief that retired coder didn't solve 120 etc etc
Show me prior to the 120 mini puzzle where the key was published.
120 125 130 all went to the same address no ?

Also leaving 4-500$ or so in puzzle 120 alt showed to me he was the real deal.
A second solver is not gonna come along solve it then be pissed they missed out on the original btc then drop 4-500$ in alt coins to play a mini game.
In my eyes its pocket change to him.

If someone really has 2.3 mil in Bitcoin, why would they spend so much time bragging about it on a forum?
I would never sign up here again. I would NOT be online anymore. Publicly announcing large sums could attract unwanted attention, including scammers or hackers. Or something much worse than that.

Well I complety aggre with this, You're absolutely right.
RetiredCoder need to have some good OPSEC (operational security) is essential, especially when dealing with large amounts of money, like 2.3 million in Bitcoin.

The more you broadcast your holdings, the more you expose yourself to potential risks whether it’s phishing attacks, hackers, or even physical threats. Staying anonymous, using strong encryption, and keeping a low profile online are all key strategies to protect your assets. Being discreet with any financial information and avoiding flashy bragging can go a long way in ensuring personal security. People often underestimate the dangers of online visibility until it’s too late. (I talk by my own experience, some users here may remember my dispute with some other user in this forum). Lesson learned in a complicated way.

If a guy/women can solve the puzzle that RetiredCoder did then no way in hell is this guy/gal getting phised by some lame ass scripts nor dumb enough to get infected.
I just don't believe that for a second.

Also at no point have i seen RetiredCoder "brag" about it. A simple mini puzzle followed by more disbelievers and haters.
If anything its opened up more insight into kangaroo and more conversation about it which personally i like.