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Akito S. M. Hosana
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November 17, 2024, 12:44:18 PM
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What grid size are you using with the "original JLP Kangaroo version 1.7" in order to see it at 700 Mk/s on a GTX 1660S? Are you sure about that speed being real?

Cause with no code changes and using the 1.7 release tag, I can't go beyond 300 Mk/s (or rather, ~250 in reality, since stats display is kinda broken) on a card that is both newer and superior to that model. And looking at the nvcc compile stats, I have some doubts that it would even be capable to go at a triple speed, on an inferior card with 25% less CUDA cores.
You probably configured the grid incorrectly. The Nsight shows that 4 blocks are working simultaneously. That's why I have a grid of 88*128. And yes, the speed is +/- correct since it matches the amount of DP accumulated over a certain period of time.
Or you used a small DP value, then of course the speed will be much less. For example, with DP 13 the speed is only 950Mk/s (on the patched version) and 1100Mk/s with DP 20.
P.S. But you are right there is a glitch with the speed calculation. JLP forgot to reset the average values ​​before calculating the speed (thread.cpp)
After making changes the speed became 950 Mk/s
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GPU: GPU #0 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER (22x64 cores) Grid(88x128) (141.0 MB used)
SolveKeyGPU Thread GPU#0: creating kangaroos...
SolveKeyGPU Thread GPU#0: 2^20.46 kangaroos [7.6s]
[952.59 MK/s][GPU 952.59 MK/s][Count 2^35.49][Dead 0][50s (Avg 01:06:23)][3.4/10.6MB]

@kTimesG  you have written more than once that your program is several times faster than JLP and other clones. Can you really run 1660 Super at 2Gk/s?

I would like to test this version with a 3060, can you share it?
the release is available you can try.


This is pain in *ss to install on Windows 11 with 3060 - Visual Studio 2022 + Cuda12

 make gpu=1 ccap=86 all

I've been trying for several hours without success. I managed to compile it for the CPU.

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November 17, 2024, 01:32:26 PM
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Hello. New version LPKangaroo_OW_OT not working on 135 puzzle? I see 2.0/4.0 MB and saving is not added when I use 135 puzzle. The same behavior I saw when I tried to use the original from JLP
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November 17, 2024, 04:54:33 PM
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You probably configured the grid incorrectly. The Nsight shows that 4 blocks are working simultaneously. That's why I have a grid of 88*128. And yes, the speed is +/- correct since it matches the amount of DP accumulated over a certain period of time.

Nah. After looking better at the specs of 1660S I see it has higher SM clock frequency and larger memory bus width than what I was comparing against, so that explains some things.

@kTimesG  you have written more than once that your program is several times faster than JLP and other clones. Can you really run 1660 Super at 2Gk/s?

I have no idea, I can't test on that. I can currently squeeze out 6.2 Gk/s on a RTX 4090, but some users here claim they can obtain 8 Gk/s or more. I think RetiredCoder might have an even faster version. Technically, it is plausible, it really depends on how well the kernel is implemented. And I said some time ago - if someone manages to fully parallelize the inversion, we can have a doubling in speed Smiley That b***h is really time-consuming.

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November 17, 2024, 08:47:33 PM
Last edit: November 18, 2024, 11:09:20 AM by k3ntINA
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Does anyone have anything to say? Very simple math! Only I don't know what to do for the next keys. My brain is full of ideas and methods, but I can't implement them.
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November 18, 2024, 10:32:06 AM
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I just got the information, but don't tell me where i got them from.

The solvers of #120 and #125 were the same persons and they were miners, they always had a mining farm which they minted dogecoins and Ethereum and other low altcoins.

They had access to huge GPU power, and most probably used Jean's Kangaroo for bruteforcing.

Most importantly; They are CURRENTLY NOW running and trying to hunt for #130 again! I hope we can be able to stop them and gain the 130's reward before them and before the end of the year. Based on calculations from the miners 3Emiwzxme7Mrj4d89uqohXNncnRM15YESs The estimated time for #130 to be hunted from the miners, should be around January 2024, February 2024, and if lucky already in December 2023!

So summary of the story: You have guys time before February 2024 to get #130's reward before the miners solve the third puzzle and get #120, #125, and #130.

comment this guy is correct

As @Etar said, we need to unite to stop the miners or he will take all prizes for himself.

and what kind unite??
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November 18, 2024, 11:32:51 AM
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You are my hero! We need more magic circles! Grin
Are you kidding, hero?! If you really mean it, come and help me! Not by donating, but by telling me if the magic circle helped you?!
I have enhanced the magic circles by combining shapes. The things I see from the discovered keys are amazing, but I don't know how to summarize the unknown keys to find the full key.
I would appreciate it if I could send them to you and if it really gives you a clue. Split the rewards How you split depends on how much my magic rings helped, for example if 20% helped you then my share is 20%.
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November 18, 2024, 12:05:00 PM
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You are my hero! We need more magic circles! Grin
Are you kidding, hero?! If you really mean it, come and help me! Not by donating, but by telling me if the magic circle helped you?!
I have enhanced the magic circles by combining shapes. The things I see from the discovered keys are amazing, but I don't know how to summarize the unknown keys to find the full key.

Let me summarize your amazing discoveries, and also help you find the full keys:

In every single puzzle the position of a leading bit "1" is hard-coded into the key. This information creates a pattern.

This explains pretty much all of your discoveries, but unfortunately this is something we already know.

Maybe subtract the range start from your decimal keys so that you actually have unbiased data to work with. Let us know how well your circles and shapes and columns of digits work for you after that.

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November 18, 2024, 12:08:59 PM
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Hi guys!
Is there any central place where ALL SEARCHED ranges are?
I am interested in ALL SEARCHED ranges from the whole puzzle, NOT only for the unsolved one.

If there are not in any central place, are there any log files from people who have already searched some ranges?

Thanks
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November 18, 2024, 01:09:06 PM
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Hi guys!
Is there any central place where ALL SEARCHED ranges are?
I am interested in ALL SEARCHED ranges from the whole puzzle, NOT only for the unsolved one.

If there are not in any central place, are there any log files from people who have already searched some ranges?

Thanks

Well, I’m sure the NSA has a very detailed log of every range that’s been searched—probably right next to their collection of cat videos and conspiracy theories. 😜
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November 18, 2024, 01:51:08 PM
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Let me summarize your amazing discoveries, and also help you find the full keys:
In every single puzzle the position of a leading bit "1" is hard-coded into the key. This information creates a pattern.
This explains pretty much all of your discoveries, but unfortunately this is something we already know.
Maybe subtract the range start from your decimal keys so that you actually have unbiased data to work with. Let us know how well your circles and shapes and columns of digits work for you after that.

Look at the photo more carefully.
https://postimg.cc/V0mQFVDq
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November 18, 2024, 02:13:08 PM
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I just got the information, but don't tell me where i got them from.

The solvers of #120 and #125 were the same persons and they were miners, they always had a mining farm which they minted dogecoins and Ethereum and other low altcoins.

They had access to huge GPU power, and most probably used Jean's Kangaroo for bruteforcing.

Most importantly; They are CURRENTLY NOW running and trying to hunt for #130 again! I hope we can be able to stop them and gain the 130's reward before them and before the end of the year. Based on calculations from the miners 3Emiwzxme7Mrj4d89uqohXNncnRM15YESs The estimated time for #130 to be hunted from the miners, should be around January 2024, February 2024, and if lucky already in December 2023!

So summary of the story: You have guys time before February 2024 to get #130's reward before the miners solve the third puzzle and get #120, #125, and #130.

comment this guy is correct

As @Etar said, we need to unite to stop the miners or he will take all prizes for himself.

and what kind unite??
Before January 2025 start  #135 #140 will be vanish too

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November 18, 2024, 02:20:51 PM
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Before January 2025 start  #135 #140 will be vanish too

Are you sure about the math? Assuming that @RetiredCoder don't add more GPUs to his farm, and the luck for the kangaroos jumps is almost the same I see difficult for it to be solved on this year, maybe before January 2026.

Check the dates:

Puzzle 120 was redeem on February  27, 2023 (anyone can check it here)
Puzzle 125 was redeem on July 9, 2023 (check it here)
Puzzle 130 was redeem on September 23, 2024 (check it here)

That was 1 year and two months between puzzle 125 and 130, with >100 GPU


Are you kidding, hero?! If you really mean it, come and help me! Not by donating, but by telling me if the magic circle helped you?!


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November 18, 2024, 02:47:15 PM
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Can anyone really explain why this happened?
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November 18, 2024, 05:03:46 PM
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Can anyone really explain why this happened?
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/11/18/bVtp1.jpeg

PM me to explain what you did to these calculations and what do you mean, and I may be able to help you
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November 18, 2024, 05:31:47 PM
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Can anyone really explain why this happened?

PM me to explain what you did to these calculations and what do you mean, and I may be able to help you

Isn't it obvious? He aligned some decimal keys so they look nice to read, and then picked some lottery numbers on some random columns of digits, skipping a few numbers here and there so that he can end up with some sums he really wanted to get to. Because yeah, it makes complete sense to randomly pick some numbers and not others. Oh, and yeah, also needed a "third digit" but only for some rows, so the math all works out 100% error-free. Astonishing. Now he wants to know why that "happened".

Next step is escaping from the matrix - maybe via a Bingo arrangement or some Rubik cube. I bet a 4-dimensional 24-cell can also reveal the private keys.

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November 18, 2024, 05:33:54 PM
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Key was 2832ed74f2b5e35ee.

Did the bots snatch it? Alberto??

No idea, the prize was send to two different addresses.

my bot was off this week sadly Murphy's law has been fulfilled

@albert0bsd for what bot do they talk? can you give me a link to read?
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November 18, 2024, 05:49:58 PM
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Guys PLEASE,

can someone let me know if this holds true?
https://stacker.news/items/683489

Can you explain to me how this happened or point me somewhere to read about it?
if this holds true, then can't this happen with EVERY single transaction in bitcoin?
I got confused!
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November 18, 2024, 06:45:40 PM
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Guys PLEASE,

can someone let me know if this holds true?
https://stacker.news/items/683489

Can you explain to me how this happened or point me somewhere to read about it?
if this holds true, then can't this happen with EVERY single transaction in bitcoin?
I got confused!


There is a whole breakdown of everything in this thread. Lets say from around page 280. 10% hysteresis. But you will find all the info you could require.

Look over there...
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November 18, 2024, 07:03:36 PM
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@albert0bsd for what bot do they talk? can you give me a link to read?
Thanks

Well actually all this topic is the only information available for those kind of bots. Please read all the mor than 335 pages of it until you find it.

Maybe when i have some time i would make a compilation about that specific topic

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November 18, 2024, 07:36:39 PM
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@tmar777

It seems the logical conclusion that #66 got sniped.

if this holds true, then can't this happen with EVERY single transaction in bitcoin?

I am 100% sure it is not computationally possible to find the 256-bit key within 10 minutes of the pubkey being exposed. (k*G can correct me on this one)

Anything above 135-bits is safe, given that #135 has a spend from 2019 and still no one has being able to claim the prize.

If you solve #67 -- you still have to one more uncertain step to make:
{
 A) Make the smallest transaction possible and pay the highest fee you are willing to (the bot will try to overwrite your TX with higher fee/B)

 B) Ask for a miner (MARA) to execute your TX without exposing the pubkey to the mempool. (Most recommend this option)
}

Problem with option B is you are still giving away the pubkey, so if the miner wants, they can simply claim the reward and say someone beat you to it.

Now the interesting question is which of the lower puzzles is safe to claim without having to worry about this extra step.

From what I have seen in this thread, only a few users here are qualified to even come close to a guess. #80 ~ #100?

Since we have no idea of the raw power that is waiting for a spend from the lower puzzles addrs.
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