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Author Topic: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it  (Read 317238 times)
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August 02, 2024, 01:59:48 AM
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Thoughts, comments, questions?

What if... someone inside Mara is aware of this challenge/addresses with weak privatekeys and had access to that private mempool?

Is hard to trust in this services.

So for all those users who said they've found the key this is the fire test to prove it.




I don't see many options for someone to try to intercept a transaction even if it is with a weak private key, in any case, the biased employee would have to make the transfer in the same way, using the MARA pool, as there would be no time for him to look for another pool, because if he does it openly he will lose the BTCs, that is, the employee only has to lose, whatever he does, it will be discovered, because from the moment you send a transaction it would be exclusively their responsibility to keep your data safe.

When youtube starts monetizing me again, I will make another challenge trying this method, let's see what happens

Perfect, we are looking forward to another live test, remembering that if the transaction of puzzle 66 goes well and the winner comes here to the forum to inform us, it would be a mega positive marketing for MARAPOOL, the company that saved the puzzle from the BOTs.  Grin Grin
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August 02, 2024, 08:37:42 AM
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Perfect, we are looking forward to another live test, remembering that if the transaction of puzzle 66 goes well and the winner comes here to the forum to inform us, it would be a mega positive marketing for MARAPOOL, the company that saved the puzzle from the BOTs.  Grin Grin

Is MARAPOOL a public pool? The problem is that you need to trust not just the employees of MARAPOOL but each member of the pool. The block template is broadcasted to them and the public key is clearly part of it.
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August 02, 2024, 10:13:36 AM
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Perfect, we are looking forward to another live test, remembering that if the transaction of puzzle 66 goes well and the winner comes here to the forum to inform us, it would be a mega positive marketing for MARAPOOL, the company that saved the puzzle from the BOTs.  Grin Grin

Is MARAPOOL a public pool? The problem is that you need to trust not just the employees of MARAPOOL but each member of the pool. The block template is broadcasted to them and the public key is clearly part of it.

And what other choice do we have?
You can go regularly and run into 100 bot games, which is an even worse risk, or find something else
similar to MARAPOOL, which is hard to find, and if it is found, nothing is ever 100% safe.

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August 02, 2024, 04:44:32 PM
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is it matter for keyhunt that public key is from which type of address ? address start with 1 or 3 or bc
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August 02, 2024, 06:10:25 PM
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is it matter for keyhunt that public key is from which type of address ? address start with 1 or 3 or bc

it doesn't matter at all. A public key is directly related to the Private key, regarless the type of address.
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August 02, 2024, 06:53:21 PM
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Where have all those who have WIF gone? Grin

Obviously, no one has solved it yet.
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August 02, 2024, 08:14:05 PM
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Perfect, we are looking forward to another live test, remembering that if the transaction of puzzle 66 goes well and the winner comes here to the forum to inform us, it would be a mega positive marketing for MARAPOOL, the company that saved the puzzle from the BOTs.  Grin Grin

Is MARAPOOL a public pool? The problem is that you need to trust not just the employees of MARAPOOL but each member of the pool. The block template is broadcasted to them and the public key is clearly part of it.
I am not sure if they are a public pool. When I say public, I mean publicly traded.

I can't find anywhere to join there mining pool, so I am not sure that anyone can. But if anyone else sees or finds this differently, please post.
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August 02, 2024, 09:20:55 PM
Last edit: August 02, 2024, 10:01:09 PM by nomachine
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I can't find anywhere to join there mining pool, so I am not sure that anyone can. But if anyone else sees or finds this differently, please post.

Nope, they censor their transactions. MARA's Marathon Slipstream business model allows people to submit their non-standard transactions (manually) at a higher fee rate with no questions asked. This is ideal for the Puzzle 66 case because the public key will be censored until the transaction is mined. After that, it's too late.  Grin

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August 02, 2024, 10:12:26 PM
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If the public key has not been seen in the mempool, is this the end of bots?
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August 03, 2024, 01:09:29 PM
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from Mara slipstream FAQ

Will Marathon censor transactions?
Marathon supports innovation and aims to broaden Bitcoin’s transaction capabilities within the bounds of Bitcoin Core’s consensus rules. Transactions submitted via Slipstream are subject to Marathon’s terms of service, which prohibit unauthorized copyrighted material and objectional material. However, transactions submitted to Bitcoin’s peer-to-peer network are not subject to Marathon’s terms and conditions and are processed under the standard rules of the Bitcoin protocol.

To view our terms of service, please see the 'TERMS' tab.



Are my transactions private?
Before they are mined, yes. Your transactions are not broadcasted to the Bitcoin network until they have received at least one confirmation. Once mined, your transaction will live on the public Bitcoin ledger.


Do other mining pools offer the same service?
No, other mining pools typically do not offer a service similar to Slipstream in a standardized, accessible manner. While some mining pools may accept transactions through less formal channels like email or direct messaging on social media platforms, these methods often involve a manual, personalized quote process with no official structure. In contrast, Slipstream provides a standardized solution that streamlines the process of accepting direct transactions, making it a unique offering for Bitcoin users.
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August 03, 2024, 02:18:33 PM
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Are my transactions private?
Before they are mined, yes. Your transactions are not broadcasted to the Bitcoin network until they have received at least one confirmation. Once mined, your transaction will live on the public Bitcoin ledger.

Or in other words, any bot which pings the mempool is useless..Or dead for the one who uses this service.
The only thing that matters is how much money you will give MARAPOOL for this service. And that's it.

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August 03, 2024, 03:12:38 PM
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Are my transactions private?
Before they are mined, yes. Your transactions are not broadcasted to the Bitcoin network until they have received at least one confirmation. Once mined, your transaction will live on the public Bitcoin ledger.

Or in other words, any bot which pings the mempool is useless..Or dead for the one who uses this service.
The only thing that matters is how much money you will give MARAPOOL for this service. And that's it.

You would increase your chances, but you will still be dependent on the honesty of the marapool miners, since they can apply rbf, even if the transaction is not broadcast, the marapool miners have access to your public key before mining the block.

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August 03, 2024, 09:05:38 PM
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Are my transactions private?
Before they are mined, yes. Your transactions are not broadcasted to the Bitcoin network until they have received at least one confirmation. Once mined, your transaction will live on the public Bitcoin ledger.

Or in other words, any bot which pings the mempool is useless..Or dead for the one who uses this service.
The only thing that matters is how much money you will give MARAPOOL for this service. And that's it.

You would increase your chances, but you will still be dependent on the honesty of the marapool miners, since they can apply rbf, even if the transaction is not broadcast, the marapool miners have access to your public key before mining the block.

They have a public key for every possible transaction and likely a fully automated processing system. Manual intervention only occurs if someone complains; otherwise, the logs are reviewed and entries are made. In such large companies, there are multiple layers of protection, including from the employees themselves. You can't fart in there unnoticed in such an environment. I know this because I worked in a similar company.


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August 03, 2024, 09:38:35 PM
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How to reduce the off-topic in this thread?
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August 03, 2024, 09:44:43 PM
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Meanwhile...

https://imgur.com/a/MnXVbn5

Off the grid, training pigeons to broadcast signed messages.
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August 04, 2024, 08:39:40 AM
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How to reduce the off-topic in this thread?

What is the topic here? Do you even read all the posts here? Do you still think that as soon as you get the puzzle 66 key, the money is yours? Wink
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August 04, 2024, 08:52:25 AM
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Often, I don't have the necessary concentration to read all the posts carefully. This is especially true when the topics involve unicorns, magic circles, magical math, and looking into a crystal ball to see how the winning transaction will reach its destination.

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August 04, 2024, 11:42:51 AM
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Is MARAPOOL a public pool? The problem is that you need to trust not just the employees of MARAPOOL but each member of the pool. The block template is broadcasted to them and the public key is clearly part of it.
With "pool miner" I mean someone with mining gear participating in mining in a public mining pool (which MARA pool isn't) where anybody can mine its shares for the pool to find a block.

Why would a miner in a public pool need the whole block template? He needs only the 80 bytes of the blockheader, not all the block's transactions!

As long as the number and sequence of transactions in the to be mined template block aren't changed by the pool operator the Merkle Tree Root Hash in the blockheader doesn't change and a miner only needs the short blockheader where all transactions are condensed to the Merkle Tree Root Hash.

A pool miner can then hash crunch varying the nonce and maybe also the block time. Actually I'm not sure if a pool miner also fiddles with the extra nonce field of the coinbase transaction. If yes, he would need the whole Merkle Tree branches proofs to properly construct the resulting Merkle Tree Root Hash for the blockheader. Not sure if this is done in public pool mining as you would allow a stranger (pool miner) to construct the Coinbase transaction. The Coinbase transaction isn't signed with a private key as its input isn't a previous transaction output.

I think I know how mining works, maybe not the very inner mechanics of pool mining software for sure, though. Correct me, if I'm wrong, always eager to learn Bitcoin's details properly.

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August 04, 2024, 06:05:23 PM
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Guys i confused about this address :

https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/addresses/btc/34MSicAL7qVGkevFPLwyc9KohGzoUSnu3Q

here there are some outgoing transactions but
here say this address has not any public key

https://blockchain.info/q/pubkeyaddr/34MSicAL7qVGkevFPLwyc9KohGzoUSnu3Q


may someone explain this to me please?
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August 05, 2024, 02:08:26 AM
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Guys i confused about this address :

https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/addresses/btc/34MSicAL7qVGkevFPLwyc9KohGzoUSnu3Q

here there are some outgoing transactions but
here say this address has not any public key

https://blockchain.info/q/pubkeyaddr/34MSicAL7qVGkevFPLwyc9KohGzoUSnu3Q


may someone explain this to me please?
These types of addresses(P2SH) do not use public keys. It is a locking and unlocking script. It specifies the conditions under which funds can be spent. It can be a custom script or a standard one, such as multisig.

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