Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it

[WanderingPhilospher]

Perfect, we are looking forward to another live test, remembering that if the transaction of puzzle 66 goes well and the winner comes here to the forum to inform us, it would be a mega positive marketing for MARAPOOL, the company that saved the puzzle from the BOTs. 

Is MARAPOOL a public pool? The problem is that you need to trust not just the employees of MARAPOOL but each member of the pool. The block template is broadcasted to them and the public key is clearly part of it.

I am not sure if they are a public pool. When I say public, I mean publicly traded.

I can't find anywhere to join there mining pool, so I am not sure that anyone can. But if anyone else sees or finds this differently, please post.

[nomachine]

I can't find anywhere to join there mining pool, so I am not sure that anyone can. But if anyone else sees or finds this differently, please post.

Nope, they censor their transactions. MARA's Marathon Slipstream business model allows people to submit their non-standard transactions (manually) at a higher fee rate with no questions asked. This is ideal for the Puzzle 66 case because the public key will be censored until the transaction is mined. After that, it's too late.  

[Akito S. M. Hosana]

If the public key has not been seen in the mempool, is this the end of bots?

[mjojo]

from Mara slipstream FAQ

Will Marathon censor transactions?
Marathon supports innovation and aims to broaden Bitcoin’s transaction capabilities within the bounds of Bitcoin Core’s consensus rules. Transactions submitted via Slipstream are subject to Marathon’s terms of service, which prohibit unauthorized copyrighted material and objectional material. However, transactions submitted to Bitcoin’s peer-to-peer network are not subject to Marathon’s terms and conditions and are processed under the standard rules of the Bitcoin protocol.

To view our terms of service, please see the 'TERMS' tab.



Are my transactions private?
Before they are mined, yes. Your transactions are not broadcasted to the Bitcoin network until they have received at least one confirmation. Once mined, your transaction will live on the public Bitcoin ledger.


Do other mining pools offer the same service?
No, other mining pools typically do not offer a service similar to Slipstream in a standardized, accessible manner. While some mining pools may accept transactions through less formal channels like email or direct messaging on social media platforms, these methods often involve a manual, personalized quote process with no official structure. In contrast, Slipstream provides a standardized solution that streamlines the process of accepting direct transactions, making it a unique offering for Bitcoin users.

[nomachine]

Are my transactions private?
Before they are mined, yes. Your transactions are not broadcasted to the Bitcoin network until they have received at least one confirmation. Once mined, your transaction will live on the public Bitcoin ledger.

Or in other words, any bot which pings the mempool is useless..Or dead for the one who uses this service.
The only thing that matters is how much money you will give MARAPOOL for this service. And that's it.

[mcdouglasx]

Are my transactions private?
Before they are mined, yes. Your transactions are not broadcasted to the Bitcoin network until they have received at least one confirmation. Once mined, your transaction will live on the public Bitcoin ledger.

Or in other words, any bot which pings the mempool is useless..Or dead for the one who uses this service.
The only thing that matters is how much money you will give MARAPOOL for this service. And that's it.

You would increase your chances, but you will still be dependent on the honesty of the marapool miners, since they can apply rbf, even if the transaction is not broadcast, the marapool miners have access to your public key before mining the block.

[nomachine]

Are my transactions private?
Before they are mined, yes. Your transactions are not broadcasted to the Bitcoin network until they have received at least one confirmation. Once mined, your transaction will live on the public Bitcoin ledger.

Or in other words, any bot which pings the mempool is useless..Or dead for the one who uses this service.
The only thing that matters is how much money you will give MARAPOOL for this service. And that's it.

You would increase your chances, but you will still be dependent on the honesty of the marapool miners, since they can apply rbf, even if the transaction is not broadcast, the marapool miners have access to your public key before mining the block.

They have a public key for every possible transaction and likely a fully automated processing system. Manual intervention only occurs if someone complains; otherwise, the logs are reviewed and entries are made. In such large companies, there are multiple layers of protection, including from the employees themselves. You can't fart in there unnoticed in such an environment. I know this because I worked in a similar company.

[sdhgfdsjfgsiujdgf]

How to reduce the off-topic in this thread?

[kTimesG]

Meanwhile...

https://imgur.com/a/MnXVbn5

[Akito S. M. Hosana]

How to reduce the off-topic in this thread?

What is the topic here? Do you even read all the posts here? Do you still think that as soon as you get the puzzle 66 key, the money is yours?

[nomachine]

Often, I don't have the necessary concentration to read all the posts carefully. This is especially true when the topics involve unicorns, magic circles, magical math, and looking into a crystal ball to see how the winning transaction will reach its destination.

[Cricktor]

Is MARAPOOL a public pool? The problem is that you need to trust not just the employees of MARAPOOL but each member of the pool. The block template is broadcasted to them and the public key is clearly part of it.

With "pool miner" I mean someone with mining gear participating in mining in a public mining pool (which MARA pool isn't) where anybody can mine its shares for the pool to find a block.

Why would a miner in a public pool need the whole block template? He needs only the 80 bytes of the blockheader, not all the block's transactions!

As long as the number and sequence of transactions in the to be mined template block aren't changed by the pool operator the Merkle Tree Root Hash in the blockheader doesn't change and a miner only needs the short blockheader where all transactions are condensed to the Merkle Tree Root Hash.

A pool miner can then hash crunch varying the nonce and maybe also the block time. Actually I'm not sure if a pool miner also fiddles with the extra nonce field of the coinbase transaction. If yes, he would need the whole Merkle Tree branches proofs to properly construct the resulting Merkle Tree Root Hash for the blockheader. Not sure if this is done in public pool mining as you would allow a stranger (pool miner) to construct the Coinbase transaction. The Coinbase transaction isn't signed with a private key as its input isn't a previous transaction output.

I think I know how mining works, maybe not the very inner mechanics of pool mining software for sure, though. Correct me, if I'm wrong, always eager to learn Bitcoin's details properly.

[AliBah]

Guys i confused about this address :

https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/addresses/btc/34MSicAL7qVGkevFPLwyc9KohGzoUSnu3Q

here there are some outgoing transactions but
here say this address has not any public key

https://blockchain.info/q/pubkeyaddr/34MSicAL7qVGkevFPLwyc9KohGzoUSnu3Q


may someone explain this to me please?

[mcdouglasx]

Guys i confused about this address :

https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/addresses/btc/34MSicAL7qVGkevFPLwyc9KohGzoUSnu3Q

here there are some outgoing transactions but
here say this address has not any public key

https://blockchain.info/q/pubkeyaddr/34MSicAL7qVGkevFPLwyc9KohGzoUSnu3Q


may someone explain this to me please?

These types of addresses(P2SH) do not use public keys. It is a locking and unlocking script. It specifies the conditions under which funds can be spent. It can be a custom script or a standard one, such as multisig.

[JDScreesh]

Guys i confused about this address :

https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/addresses/btc/34MSicAL7qVGkevFPLwyc9KohGzoUSnu3Q

here there are some outgoing transactions but
here say this address has not any public key

https://blockchain.info/q/pubkeyaddr/34MSicAL7qVGkevFPLwyc9KohGzoUSnu3Q


may someone explain this to me please?

Hello there.

The address 34MSicAL7qVGkevFPLwyc9KohGzoUSnu3Q is a 2-of-3 multisig address.

Its public keys are 036c75675da3fdc06a9e6940b4af97a856eb8801ed9b8c77941ac397f0abda5acc, 02502e76bc019532f74e0dad286477ccecacc1fc74695949ff368742fe9a5b4051 and 033960592197eeb6a199804eefc7e5db45c6570cea6e503d8616ccf939c691cd25

The redeem script is 5221036c75675da3fdc06a9e6940b4af97a856eb8801ed9b8c77941ac397f0abda5acc2102502e7 6bc019532f74e0dad286477ccecacc1fc74695949ff368742fe9a5b405121033960592197eeb6a1 99804eefc7e5db45c6570cea6e503d8616ccf939c691cd2553ae

I hope this helps 

[AliBah]

Guys i confused about this address :

https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/addresses/btc/34MSicAL7qVGkevFPLwyc9KohGzoUSnu3Q

here there are some outgoing transactions but
here say this address has not any public key

https://blockchain.info/q/pubkeyaddr/34MSicAL7qVGkevFPLwyc9KohGzoUSnu3Q


may someone explain this to me please?

Hello there.

The address 34MSicAL7qVGkevFPLwyc9KohGzoUSnu3Q is a 2-of-3 multisig address.

Its public keys are 036c75675da3fdc06a9e6940b4af97a856eb8801ed9b8c77941ac397f0abda5acc, 02502e76bc019532f74e0dad286477ccecacc1fc74695949ff368742fe9a5b4051 and 033960592197eeb6a199804eefc7e5db45c6570cea6e503d8616ccf939c691cd25

The redeem script is 5221036c75675da3fdc06a9e6940b4af97a856eb8801ed9b8c77941ac397f0abda5acc2102502e7 6bc019532f74e0dad286477ccecacc1fc74695949ff368742fe9a5b405121033960592197eeb6a1 99804eefc7e5db45c6570cea6e503d8616ccf939c691cd2553ae

I hope this helps 

Guys i confused about this address :

https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/addresses/btc/34MSicAL7qVGkevFPLwyc9KohGzoUSnu3Q

here there are some outgoing transactions but
here say this address has not any public key

https://blockchain.info/q/pubkeyaddr/34MSicAL7qVGkevFPLwyc9KohGzoUSnu3Q


may someone explain this to me please?

These types of addresses(P2SH) do not use public keys. It is a locking and unlocking script. It specifies the conditions under which funds can be spent. It can be a custom script or a standard one, such as multisig.

Thank you guys for explanation.

[3dmlib]

What is better probability to find a key? To search 66-puzzle only or search 66-67-68-69-puzzles simultaneously?

[gygy]

What is better probability to find a key? To search 66-puzzle only or search 66-67-68-69-puzzles simultaneously?

puzzle-67 is twice as difficult as puzzle-66.
puzzle-68 is twice as difficult as puzzle-67.
and so on.

The best chance to find a key is when you focus on the easiest available puzzle, that is puzzle-66 now.
But after you find a key you may have difficulties claiming it, it even can be stolen as soon as you try to move it. Maybe there is a work-around but that isn't 100% secure either.

[Akito S. M. Hosana]

I think we all need a new topic/reminder - where it will be written how many puzzles have been solved and how many are left - then Q & A for n00b`s about what you use as a puzzle solver(which scripts are useless and why), what is used as a wallet if the puzzle is solved and why, how does the bots work and what is a solution against bots(MARA's Marathon Slipstream)  

Maybe after that close this topic? ... Too much time is wasted on (the same) explanations in this topic.

[nomachine]

I think we all need a new topic/reminder - where it will be written how many puzzles have been solved and how many are left - then Q & A for n00b`s about what you use as a puzzle solver(which scripts are useless and why), what is used as a wallet if the puzzle is solved and why, how does the bots work and what is a solution against bots(MARA's Marathon Slipstream)  

Maybe after that close this topic? ... Too much time is wasted on (the same) explanations in this topic.

Good idea. And  add a disclaimer that the "32 BTC Puzzle" is not a puzzle at all but rather a bruteforce BenchMark or specific BruteForcing contest. Because there is no error or pattern to be in the puzzle category.