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June 03, 2023, 05:15:05 AM
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Do people really think Satoshi is reading all the posts here every day?
I don't know if anyone here is a giver, unfortunately we are here to take the loots.

Welcome to the jungle, and happy hunting.😉


Wow guys! I just discovered something, everytime I double a key I can get double the distance with my original base key!

I wonder, how many halving do I need to reduce a 125 bit key down to 40 bit?  A good thing about mod function in EC, you could keep halving for eternity without reaching destination, as we are moving towards bitcoin halving, we should start key halving to solve some puzzles before the halving event! 😉

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June 03, 2023, 07:02:15 AM
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June 03, 2023, 08:02:33 AM
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I wonder, how many halving do I need to reduce a 125 bit key down to 40 bit?
You can always halve a key. However, if your key will be odd, then after halving it, you will end up in a worse situation.
Code:
SHA-256("125-bit")=c383a1ae19ff4401f72fdfbb4ffeb6fc7a38c6692b07b188edcbdc31b0160ee7
           mask125=0000000000000000000000000000000020000000000000000000000000000000
(hash%mask125)=key=000000000000000000000000000000001a38c6692b07b188edcbdc31b0160ee7
             key/2=7fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff6a73d1a7ed2828e256cf1d5f40262814
             key-1=000000000000000000000000000000001a38c6692b07b188edcbdc31b0160ee6
         (key-1)/2=000000000000000000000000000000000d1c63349583d8c476e5ee18d80b0773
See? You can reach a key with less bits, only if you know if it is even or odd. So, if you want to go from 125-bit key to 40-bit key, then guess what: you have to know the last 85 bits.

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June 03, 2023, 10:00:26 AM
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digaran
If you are surprised by the doubling of the original key, then you are still at the very beginning of this "jungle". numbers
I will share with you a little bit what the future holds for you if you have the strength and inspiration to explore the Bitcoin curve.
There are amazing things that can make 100 hours of your work useless and make you happy in the most unexpected place and time of working with a curve.
There are special numbers on the curve that can be used to get exactly 1 digit less.
A third of the number you are looking for.
A quarter of the sought number.
You can get the mirror part of the number you are looking for, which can also be compared with the original.
And this is not even a 10th part of what is there.
You can get a lot.



But by carrying out various manipulations with the numbers on the curve, as vjudeu said, you can get into an even more difficult situation and get a .....................labyrinth.

I wish you success.
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June 03, 2023, 12:55:01 PM
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Digaran @
You can't offer anything useful. An endless stream of insanity.!
Look who is talking! Why would I offer something which could help breaking ECC? I can only hint at them, but there are already resourceful people around here explaining everything in details.

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I wonder, how many halving do I need to reduce a 125 bit key down to 40 bit?
You can always halve a key. However, if your key will be odd, then after halving it, you will end up in a worse situation.
Code:
SHA-256("125-bit")=c383a1ae19ff4401f72fdfbb4ffeb6fc7a38c6692b07b188edcbdc31b0160ee7
           mask125=0000000000000000000000000000000020000000000000000000000000000000
(hash%mask125)=key=000000000000000000000000000000001a38c6692b07b188edcbdc31b0160ee7
             key/2=7fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff6a73d1a7ed2828e256cf1d5f40262814
             key-1=000000000000000000000000000000001a38c6692b07b188edcbdc31b0160ee6
         (key-1)/2=000000000000000000000000000000000d1c63349583d8c476e5ee18d80b0773
See? You can reach a key with less bits, only if you know if it is even or odd. So, if you want to go from 125-bit key to 40-bit key, then guess what: you have to know the last 85 bits.
I already know that, we don't want +n key to be odd, halving it would halve the entire -n key which is a number near 2^256, and when we reach the middle range the halving reverses. Complex stuff! 😉


digaran
If you are surprised by the doubling of the original key, then you are still at the very beginning of this "jungle". numbers
I will share with you a little bit what the future holds for you if you have the strength and inspiration to explore the Bitcoin curve.
There are amazing things that can make 100 hours of your work useless and make you happy in the most unexpected place and time of working with a curve.
There are special numbers on the curve that can be used to get exactly 1 digit less.
A third of the number you are looking for.
A quarter of the sought number.
You can get the mirror part of the number you are looking for, which can also be compared with the original.
And this is not even a 10th part of what is there.
You can get a lot.



But by carrying out various manipulations with the numbers on the curve, as vjudeu said, you can get into an even more difficult situation and get a .....................labyrinth.

I wish you success.
Mirror, quarter, third, one digit less, I'm not interested in those, I'm interested to find new ways and equations to solve a puzzle.

I live in this jungle, and I rather not pursuit shadows, they take you to dark parts of the woods.

Good luck to you too, may the help of God be with you all brothers! We can do this. 🤣

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June 03, 2023, 11:36:16 PM
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Digaran @
You can't offer anything useful. An endless stream of insanity.!
Look who is talking! Why would I offer something which could help breaking ECC? I can only hint at them, but there are already resourceful people around here explaining everything in details.

Quote
I wonder, how many halving do I need to reduce a 125 bit key down to 40 bit?
You can always halve a key. However, if your key will be odd, then after halving it, you will end up in a worse situation.
Code:
SHA-256("125-bit")=c383a1ae19ff4401f72fdfbb4ffeb6fc7a38c6692b07b188edcbdc31b0160ee7
           mask125=0000000000000000000000000000000020000000000000000000000000000000
(hash%mask125)=key=000000000000000000000000000000001a38c6692b07b188edcbdc31b0160ee7
             key/2=7fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff6a73d1a7ed2828e256cf1d5f40262814
             key-1=000000000000000000000000000000001a38c6692b07b188edcbdc31b0160ee6
         (key-1)/2=000000000000000000000000000000000d1c63349583d8c476e5ee18d80b0773
See? You can reach a key with less bits, only if you know if it is even or odd. So, if you want to go from 125-bit key to 40-bit key, then guess what: you have to know the last 85 bits.
I already know that, we don't want +n key to be odd, halving it would halve the entire -n key which is a number near 2^256, and when we reach the middle range the halving reverses. Complex stuff! 😉


digaran
If you are surprised by the doubling of the original key, then you are still at the very beginning of this "jungle". numbers
I will share with you a little bit what the future holds for you if you have the strength and inspiration to explore the Bitcoin curve.
There are amazing things that can make 100 hours of your work useless and make you happy in the most unexpected place and time of working with a curve.
There are special numbers on the curve that can be used to get exactly 1 digit less.
A third of the number you are looking for.
A quarter of the sought number.
You can get the mirror part of the number you are looking for, which can also be compared with the original.
And this is not even a 10th part of what is there.
You can get a lot.



But by carrying out various manipulations with the numbers on the curve, as vjudeu said, you can get into an even more difficult situation and get a .....................labyrinth.

I wish you success.
Mirror, quarter, third, one digit less, I'm not interested in those, I'm interested to find new ways and equations to solve a puzzle.

I live in this jungle, and I rather not pursuit shadows, they take you to dark parts of the woods.

Good luck to you too, may the help of God be with you all brothers! We can do this. 🤣


My algorithm is working, it will be smoother with a few minor adjustments. I tried with Puzzle 115 pubkey and reduced it to 2**28 bits in 2 seconds. It took 1 second for the collider application to find the pubkey. Now writing the code to reverse the Algorithm Smiley.

I don't like working, my brain is almost numb from the blood pressure pills
i can't think

I'm sorry my English is bad, I'm writing from translate, but I hope you understand what I mean.

If you want to buy me a coffee

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June 04, 2023, 01:35:32 PM
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My algorithm is working, it will be smoother with a few minor adjustments. I tried with Puzzle 115 pubkey and reduced it to 2**28 bits in 2 seconds. It took 1 second for the collider application to find the pubkey. Now writing the code to reverse the Algorithm Smiley.
If your algorithm is working for one key, it should work for all other keys, unless it's not working, if you can solve a known key and not any other key, you are doing things in a wrong way. Manage to find a key which you don't know it's private key, then you can claim success.

Hope you feel better.

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June 04, 2023, 04:40:44 PM
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I think that there isn't any way to find a solution for this puzzle; the only thing to solve this is the strength of community. It requires many and many power of hash/sec to be solved and with maths you can't do many things.

It would be cool to use something with a speed of an ASIC, in this way you'll be able to discover keys from 66 to 76 in very easy way !

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June 04, 2023, 06:31:09 PM
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Digaran @
You can't offer anything useful. An endless stream of insanity.!
Look who is talking! Why would I offer something which could help breaking ECC? I can only hint at them, but there are already resourceful people around here explaining everything in details.

Quote
I wonder, how many halving do I need to reduce a 125 bit key down to 40 bit?
You can always halve a key. However, if your key will be odd, then after halving it, you will end up in a worse situation.
Code:
SHA-256("125-bit")=c383a1ae19ff4401f72fdfbb4ffeb6fc7a38c6692b07b188edcbdc31b0160ee7
           mask125=0000000000000000000000000000000020000000000000000000000000000000
(hash%mask125)=key=000000000000000000000000000000001a38c6692b07b188edcbdc31b0160ee7
             key/2=7fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff6a73d1a7ed2828e256cf1d5f40262814
             key-1=000000000000000000000000000000001a38c6692b07b188edcbdc31b0160ee6
         (key-1)/2=000000000000000000000000000000000d1c63349583d8c476e5ee18d80b0773
See? You can reach a key with less bits, only if you know if it is even or odd. So, if you want to go from 125-bit key to 40-bit key, then guess what: you have to know the last 85 bits.
I already know that, we don't want +n key to be odd, halving it would halve the entire -n key which is a number near 2^256, and when we reach the middle range the halving reverses. Complex stuff! 😉


digaran
If you are surprised by the doubling of the original key, then you are still at the very beginning of this "jungle". numbers
I will share with you a little bit what the future holds for you if you have the strength and inspiration to explore the Bitcoin curve.
There are amazing things that can make 100 hours of your work useless and make you happy in the most unexpected place and time of working with a curve.
There are special numbers on the curve that can be used to get exactly 1 digit less.
A third of the number you are looking for.
A quarter of the sought number.
You can get the mirror part of the number you are looking for, which can also be compared with the original.
And this is not even a 10th part of what is there.
You can get a lot.



But by carrying out various manipulations with the numbers on the curve, as vjudeu said, you can get into an even more difficult situation and get a .....................labyrinth.

I wish you success.
Mirror, quarter, third, one digit less, I'm not interested in those, I'm interested to find new ways and equations to solve a puzzle.

I live in this jungle, and I rather not pursuit shadows, they take you to dark parts of the woods.

Good luck to you too, may the help of God be with you all brothers! We can do this. 🤣


My algorithm is working, it will be smoother with a few minor adjustments. I tried with Puzzle 115 pubkey and reduced it to 2**28 bits in 2 seconds. It took 1 second for the collider application to find the pubkey. Now writing the code to reverse the Algorithm Smiley.

I don't like working, my brain is almost numb from the blood pressure pills
i can't think

I'm sorry my English is bad, I'm writing from translate, but I hope you understand what I mean.

Hello.
Could you share your algorithm?
I wonder how you managed this: "Puzzle 115 pubkey and reduced it to 2**28 bits in 2 seconds".

Sincerely,
be healthy.
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June 04, 2023, 08:02:54 PM
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fake
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June 05, 2023, 12:38:20 AM
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Hello.
Could you share your algorithm?
I wonder how you managed this: "Puzzle 115 pubkey and reduced it to 2**28 bits in 2 seconds".

Sincerely,
be healthy.

Don't believe in that, it is fake.

fake

Agree.

Why from 115 to 28 bits? in that case why not up to 1 bit?

Guys please don't believe in that, in any case we only need to know one bit on the right side to break ECDSA

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June 05, 2023, 09:30:23 PM
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Hello.
Could you share your algorithm?
I wonder how you managed this: "Puzzle 115 pubkey and reduced it to 2**28 bits in 2 seconds".

Sincerely,
be healthy.

Don't believe in that, it is fake.

fake

Agree.

Why from 115 to 28 bits? in that case why not up to 1 bit?

Guys please don't believe in that, in any case we only need to know one bit on the right side to break ECDSA

Private Key                                                                    Public key

1090246098153987172547740458951748   # puzzle 110   0309976ba5570966bf889196b7fdf5a0f9a1e9ab340556ec29f8bb60599616167d
545123049076993586273870229475874
272561524538496793136935114737937
136280762269248396568467557368968
68140381134624198284233778684484
34070190567312099142116889342242
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Last edit: June 05, 2023, 10:57:06 PM by albert0bsd
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1090246098153987172547740458951748   # puzzle 110   0309976ba5570966bf889196b7fdf5a0f9a1e9ab340556ec29f8bb60599616167d
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1  0279be667ef9dcbbac55a06295ce870b07029bfcdb2dce28d959f2815b16f81798

That is easy if you have the privatekey (X = X % 2 ? X/2 : (X-1)/2), but we can't do that if we don't have the privatekey, because there is no way that know if the publickey belongs to an even or odd privatekey.

But proof your self and show us.. here is a Publickey in the 110 bit range:

0301040c4e33b6ab297ba2a9c2858d15be5f6844febfc003ef7646796608f7f819



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1090246098153987172547740458951748   # puzzle 110   0309976ba5570966bf889196b7fdf5a0f9a1e9ab340556ec29f8bb60599616167d
1  0279be667ef9dcbbac55a06295ce870b07029bfcdb2dce28d959f2815b16f81798

What is this mess? This doesn't prove anything XD
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June 05, 2023, 10:29:47 PM
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What is this mess? This doesn't prove anything XD

Maybe he is trying to reduce the privatekey based only on the current information of the privatekey without do any calculation with the publickey.

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June 07, 2023, 03:17:12 AM
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I was trying to figure out a good way to break the key search into ranges.
I decided to use columns, ie. 17 columns. And group them into 4.

group 1  2000 - 2fff
group 2  0000 - ffff
group 3  0000 - ffff
group 4  0000 - ffff
group 5  0123456789abcdef

output:    group 1 has 4096 lines
      group 2 has 65536 lines
      group 3 has 65536 lines
      group 4 has 65536 lines
      group 5 is 16 lines.
         
My idea is to create 2000 0000 0000 0000 0
But I'm still not sure how to bring them together in a string.

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June 08, 2023, 12:00:17 AM
 #2777

I was trying to figure out a good way to break the key search into ranges.
I decided to use columns, ie. 17 columns. And group them into 4.

group 1  2000 - 2fff
group 2  0000 - ffff
group 3  0000 - ffff
group 4  0000 - ffff
group 5  0123456789abcdef

output:    group 1 has 4096 lines
      group 2 has 65536 lines
      group 3 has 65536 lines
      group 4 has 65536 lines
      group 5 is 16 lines.
         
My idea is to create 2000 0000 0000 0000 0
But I'm still not sure how to bring them together in a string.



On linux or WSL type: paste file1.txt file2.txt > fullrange.txt

Obviously change file names in your command according to your actual file names

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June 08, 2023, 10:19:44 AM
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Guys I need some help over here! So here is what I have so far.

I have subtracted this from #125.
0000000000000000000000000000000010******************************
The result is :
02c473281c8531d524c1a2b92b9192ffe3e8124448e47ec306f146f2f4f35269ee

Now if I add that result to this one :
0387a3951644f3bf9ee08135bcb9a00a31ed7b09e26ff7850b83713eb6f0582920

I get this key :
000000000000000000000000000000000c******************************

Ok, now I have the distance between the green key above and #125, which is :
000000000000000000000000000000000 4******************************

So why can't I figure the correct key while I have my double triangle, 3 known keys plus 3 unknown keys?

 

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June 08, 2023, 11:06:59 AM
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Guys I need some help over here! So here is what I have so far.

I have subtracted this from #125.
0000000000000000000000000000000010******************************
The result is :
02c473281c8531d524c1a2b92b9192ffe3e8124448e47ec306f146f2f4f35269ee

Now if I add that result to this one :
0387a3951644f3bf9ee08135bcb9a00a31ed7b09e26ff7850b83713eb6f0582920

I get this key :
000000000000000000000000000000000c******************************

Ok, now I have the distance between the green key above and #125, which is :
000000000000000000000000000000000 4******************************

So why can't I figure the correct key while I have my double triangle, 3 known keys plus 3 unknown keys?

Are the result and green keys public keys or private keys? Because without context, they could be either one.

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June 08, 2023, 11:42:37 AM
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Guys I need some help over here! So here is what I have so far.

I have subtracted this from #125.
0000000000000000000000000000000010******************************
The result is :
02c473281c8531d524c1a2b92b9192ffe3e8124448e47ec306f146f2f4f35269ee

Now if I add that result to this one :
0387a3951644f3bf9ee08135bcb9a00a31ed7b09e26ff7850b83713eb6f0582920

I get this key :
000000000000000000000000000000000c******************************

Ok, now I have the distance between the green key above and #125, which is :
000000000000000000000000000000000 4******************************

So why can't I figure the correct key while I have my double triangle, 3 known keys plus 3 unknown keys?

 




i told you multiple times, to test that on any other puzzle 100 or 115 you will figure out how it works,, get the private keys of substracted puzzle 110 and you will understand bro, then test it on 125,, when you substract told you to do this  range 0:1fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
you will have 125 substracted maybe to 100 or even 80 bit, but you need to know where exactly you can do that -f address Smiley
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