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December 04, 2016, 08:34:59 PM
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Just to let you guys know a big crash is coming in 2016 in the economy. There is going to be a huge financial crisis but it will be worse than 2009.

The bitcoin price will skyrocket to over $10,000. However  bitcoin will be banned in all western countries. If you are reading this living in the west you should make preparations to move to Russia or China they are the only places you will be safe owning bitcoins.

The crisis will be so big it will destroy entire countries and in 2017 there will be a civil war in the USA, UK and western europe. After this the world will never be the same again it will change so much by 2020 it will be unrecognizable compared to today.

New crisis will be early or later. But nobody can say exactly when. And that is the most scare.
And I also heard recently the prediction of some Chinese expert that bitcoin will reach 10 000 $ soon and that will be not the last the highest jump to bitcoin. What is going to be next? Maybe you are right abut banning bitcoin.
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December 04, 2016, 08:36:31 PM
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Lets start the countdown from now. Its still 27 days left to fulfill the prophecy. I would say its highly unlikely, as everyone predicts the rise in price before new year, because its a way to avoid  taxes by investing. There is a small chance of a crash happening, because everyone think it wont happen. That is the rule of bitcoin it goes, its own way. Usually not what ones expects.

The crash is unlikely to occur anytime soon. I think it will happen, but I also believe the impact of this will be perceived more gradually than some people think. Either way, Bitcoin does not need a crash in the world economy to demonstrate good uptrends.
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December 04, 2016, 10:53:46 PM
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Lets start the countdown from now. Its still 27 days left to fulfill the prophecy. I would say its highly unlikely, as everyone predicts the rise in price before new year, because its a way to avoid  taxes by investing. There is a small chance of a crash happening, because everyone think it wont happen. That is the rule of bitcoin it goes, its own way. Usually not what ones expects.

The crash is unlikely to occur anytime soon. I think it will happen, but I also believe the impact of this will be perceived more gradually than some people think. Either way, Bitcoin does not need a crash in the world economy to demonstrate good uptrends.
what reason do you have to tell that the price would crash . with the current economy it is hard to image the price would go down unless you get a death penalty for using bitcoin Cheesy
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December 04, 2016, 10:57:00 PM
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Just to let you guys know a big crash is coming in 2016 in the economy. There is going to be a huge financial crisis but it will be worse than 2009.

The bitcoin price will skyrocket to over $10,000. However  bitcoin will be banned in all western countries. If you are reading this living in the west you should make preparations to move to Russia or China they are the only places you will be safe owning bitcoins.

The crisis will be so big it will destroy entire countries and in 2017 there will be a civil war in the USA, UK and western europe. After this the world will never be the same again it will change so much by 2020 it will be unrecognizable compared to today.
Im.still waiting for that big crash youre talking about, cause thats the best time to buy bitcoin and store it for a long time.might be 4 years 2020,thats the time i will sell all my btc.for now lets enjoy the high stable price.
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December 04, 2016, 11:08:46 PM
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Lets start the countdown from now. Its still 27 days left to fulfill the prophecy. I would say its highly unlikely, as everyone predicts the rise in price before new year, because its a way to avoid  taxes by investing. There is a small chance of a crash happening, because everyone think it wont happen. That is the rule of bitcoin it goes, its own way. Usually not what ones expects.

The crash is unlikely to occur anytime soon. I think it will happen, but I also believe the impact of this will be perceived more gradually than some people think. Either way, Bitcoin does not need a crash in the world economy to demonstrate good uptrends.
what reason do you have to tell that the price would crash . with the current economy it is hard to image the price would go down unless you get a death penalty for using bitcoin Cheesy

I can't even think that a big crash is going to happen to bitcoin but maybe with some countries economy, like US. But with bitcoin? I really can't see that a crash will happen. The economy of bitcoin is becoming stronger as the price stability of bitcoin is getting higher and fluctuating daily that makes me believe all the time it is being strengthen.

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December 04, 2016, 11:14:12 PM
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Lets start the countdown from now. Its still 27 days left to fulfill the prophecy. I would say its highly unlikely, as everyone predicts the rise in price before new year, because its a way to avoid  taxes by investing. There is a small chance of a crash happening, because everyone think it wont happen. That is the rule of bitcoin it goes, its own way. Usually not what ones expects.

The crash is unlikely to occur anytime soon. I think it will happen, but I also believe the impact of this will be perceived more gradually than some people think. Either way, Bitcoin does not need a crash in the world economy to demonstrate good uptrends.
what reason do you have to tell that the price would crash . with the current economy it is hard to image the price would go down unless you get a death penalty for using bitcoin Cheesy
The crash that hes been saying was already happened months ago. And now after the crash bitcoin is going to fly again and hope it will not crash again just like before ,when the price went down to 250$.

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December 04, 2016, 11:24:03 PM
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Lets start the countdown from now. Its still 27 days left to fulfill the prophecy. I would say its highly unlikely, as everyone predicts the rise in price before new year, because its a way to avoid  taxes by investing. There is a small chance of a crash happening, because everyone think it wont happen. That is the rule of bitcoin it goes, its own way. Usually not what ones expects.

The crash is unlikely to occur anytime soon. I think it will happen, but I also believe the impact of this will be perceived more gradually than some people think. Either way, Bitcoin does not need a crash in the world economy to demonstrate good uptrends.
what reason do you have to tell that the price would crash . with the current economy it is hard to image the price would go down unless you get a death penalty for using bitcoin Cheesy

I can't even think that a big crash is going to happen to bitcoin but maybe with some countries economy, like US. But with bitcoin? I really can't see that a crash will happen. The economy of bitcoin is becoming stronger as the price stability of bitcoin is getting higher and fluctuating daily that makes me believe all the time it is being strengthen.
I think it can be still possible that the price of bitcoin can be crash but it is not a big crash. for me it is a normal that we are seeing that the price of bitcoin is decreasing. the price still relaying in demand and supply. and i think the price of bitcoin or movement of the bitcoin will be the same as last year because of you can read it  the old chart from 2015 there is a little bit same fluctuate. so i think the price will drop in 2017 but not big crash..

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December 04, 2016, 11:27:50 PM
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Lets start the countdown from now. Its still 27 days left to fulfill the prophecy. I would say its highly unlikely, as everyone predicts the rise in price before new year, because its a way to avoid  taxes by investing. There is a small chance of a crash happening, because everyone think it wont happen. That is the rule of bitcoin it goes, its own way. Usually not what ones expects.

The crash is unlikely to occur anytime soon. I think it will happen, but I also believe the impact of this will be perceived more gradually than some people think. Either way, Bitcoin does not need a crash in the world economy to demonstrate good uptrends.
what reason do you have to tell that the price would crash . with the current economy it is hard to image the price would go down unless you get a death penalty for using bitcoin Cheesy

I can't even think that a big crash is going to happen to bitcoin but maybe with some countries economy, like US. But with bitcoin? I really can't see that a crash will happen. The economy of bitcoin is becoming stronger as the price stability of bitcoin is getting higher and fluctuating daily that makes me believe all the time it is being strengthen.
I think it can be still possible that the price of bitcoin can be crash but it is not a big crash. for me it is a normal that we are seeing that the price of bitcoin is decreasing. the price still relaying in demand and supply. and i think the price of bitcoin or movement of the bitcoin will be the same as last year because of you can read it  the old chart from 2015 there is a little bit same fluctuate. so i think the price will drop in 2017 but not big crash..
Is that how all the economies around the world function around demand and supply Smiley if you could follow world market there will be a time for correction when traders book their profits and hope you are talking about that.Other than small corrections i dont see any big drop in price.
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December 05, 2016, 01:49:07 AM
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No crash will gonna happen this year,the demand on bitcoin is going higher and higher.  New adopters are on thier way establishments online shops ,are accepting bitcoin as thier payment method. Who knows  after 4 years bitcoin allready invaded even those small business.
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December 05, 2016, 02:11:44 AM
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No crash will gonna happen this year,the demand on bitcoin is going higher and higher.  New adopters are on thier way establishments online shops ,are accepting bitcoin as thier payment method. Who knows  after 4 years bitcoin allready invaded even those small business.
I hope that also, this year should continue to be a very good year for bitcoin. We are profitable this year as after the halving we expected the price to increase and here we are in that situation, I guess people are really trusting bitcoin, hence the adoption rate increases and we are enjoying the price increase as well.

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December 05, 2016, 05:22:16 AM
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No crash will gonna happen this year,the demand on bitcoin is going higher and higher.  New adopters are on thier way establishments online shops ,are accepting bitcoin as thier payment method. Who knows  after 4 years bitcoin allready invaded even those small business.
I hope that also, this year should continue to be a very good year for bitcoin. We are profitable this year as after the halving we expected the price to increase and here we are in that situation, I guess people are really trusting bitcoin, hence the adoption rate increases and we are enjoying the price increase as well.
We are not in the old age, bitcoin is more stronger now and it will not crash again. Just believe and continue to monitor the market and the news around so you can always make the right decision and will be able to sell when the right time to sell will come.

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December 05, 2016, 10:05:30 PM
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Lets start the countdown from now. Its still 27 days left to fulfill the prophecy. I would say its highly unlikely, as everyone predicts the rise in price before new year, because its a way to avoid  taxes by investing. There is a small chance of a crash happening, because everyone think it wont happen. That is the rule of bitcoin it goes, its own way. Usually not what ones expects.

The crash is unlikely to occur anytime soon. I think it will happen, but I also believe the impact of this will be perceived more gradually than some people think. Either way, Bitcoin does not need a crash in the world economy to demonstrate good uptrends.
what reason do you have to tell that the price would crash . with the current economy it is hard to image the price would go down unless you get a death penalty for using bitcoin Cheesy

I can't even think that a big crash is going to happen to bitcoin but maybe with some countries economy, like US. But with bitcoin? I really can't see that a crash will happen. The economy of bitcoin is becoming stronger as the price stability of bitcoin is getting higher and fluctuating daily that makes me believe all the time it is being strengthen.
I think it can be still possible that the price of bitcoin can be crash but it is not a big crash. for me it is a normal that we are seeing that the price of bitcoin is decreasing. the price still relaying in demand and supply. and i think the price of bitcoin or movement of the bitcoin will be the same as last year because of you can read it  the old chart from 2015 there is a little bit same fluctuate. so i think the price will drop in 2017 but not big crash..
Is that how all the economies around the world function around demand and supply Smiley if you could follow world market there will be a time for correction when traders book their profits and hope you are talking about that.Other than small corrections i dont see any big drop in price.

I know that after the price increase there should be dump in following but yes, it is not going to be a big crash. Still that is not a good thing if that will happen next year and I guess the root cause of this crash is because of a lot of bitcoin users are just totally holding their bitcoins and doesn't want to use it in contribution for the adoption of bitcoin.

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December 06, 2016, 12:17:04 AM
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Bitcoin does have a bigger community and is growing with support of the comunity, it will be always be volatil, its a feature that atracts a lot investors into bitcoin to try to make money with bitcoin. At the moment looks like bitcoin has all to keep growing, making the tests and see the resistance at each step, but return to any ammount lower then 500 its currently impossible.
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December 06, 2016, 05:55:32 AM
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On December, 20, the Electoral College declares Hillary Clinton as the winner of the US presidential elections. On the 21st Texas declares independence from the US ("come and take it"), a few days later other redneck States such Arkansas, New Mexico, Oklahoma, etc follow Texas' lead. New York proclaims itself a Free City of the world. Dollar crashes, markets panic, banks closed, Congress and government dispersed, the UN peacekeepers are deployed in Washington DC, and finally the US disbands and disintegrates

This is the end of a united states but not the world and not even those separated states.   Strange thing is those states may be better off and more free to do honest and profitable business when loose of the 20 trillion of federal debt and crushing burden from endless political regulations throttling trade.    
This is not even a crash scenario, this is a glancing blow at worst and to me I feel its a positive scenario for those people bearing the weight of government currently, ie. the ordinary people and majority of USA and any dollar connected country.   Due to the inflationary exporting policy of the federal reserve, this event also brings a positive to those no longer ruled by a foreign power and a reserve currency devoted to serve one party in one capital in one part of the world .  Again its not a crash for most countries, some western systems may falter as they lose the bonus dollar advantage.  

The important point here is the majority of population does not live in one country or one state even, its become more distributed more able to produce widely so any break down in such a large biased system is a world positive.  Certainly longer term and feasibly even short term you will not see the 1929 type crash some might expect.    A very brief example is the election of Trump, perceptions were very negative and market futures fell but the actual market open saw a rise not a crash.   This strange disparity might also be true of a much bigger dissolution of the states or any similar big scenario you think of, most of the world is not living in a 1st world country and most of the world is very capable of being productive anyway.   The current system is a restriction to world production, dont be one sided in your thinking to imagine the market cannot navigate a big change and even profit

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December 06, 2016, 10:24:12 AM
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On December, 20, the Electoral College declares Hillary Clinton as the winner of the US presidential elections. On the 21st Texas declares independence from the US ("come and take it"), a few days later other redneck States such Arkansas, New Mexico, Oklahoma, etc follow Texas' lead. New York proclaims itself a Free City of the world. Dollar crashes, markets panic, banks closed, Congress and government dispersed, the UN peacekeepers are deployed in Washington DC, and finally the US disbands and disintegrates

This is the end of a united states but not the world and not even those separated states.   Strange thing is those states may be better off and more free to do honest and profitable business when loose of the 20 trillion of federal debt and crushing burden from endless political regulations throttling trade.   
This is not even a crash scenario, this is a glancing blow at worst and to me I feel its a positive scenario for those people bearing the weight of government currently, ie. the ordinary people and majority of USA and any dollar connected country.   Due to the inflationary exporting policy of the federal reserve, this event also brings a positive to those no longer ruled by a foreign power and a reserve currency devoted to serve one party in one capital in one part of the world .  Again its not a crash for most countries, some western systems may falter as they lose the bonus dollar advantage

No matter what, but my prophecy seems to have started coming true. A few Republican electors from Texas (Texas, yeah) have been thinking about voting against Trump in favor of another Republican candidate. On the other hand, rumors have surfaced that at least eight Democratic electors are going to defect from Clinton and support a Republican alternative to Trump as well. Regarding the US possible disintegration, history shows that such things are usually accompanied with extreme level of violence and economic collapse (e.g. Yugoslavia, former Soviet Republics)...

Only in rare cases countries disband more or less peacefully (e.g. Czechoslovakia)

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December 06, 2016, 01:30:57 PM
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No crash will gonna happen this year,the demand on bitcoin is going higher and higher.  New adopters are on thier way establishments online shops ,are accepting bitcoin as thier payment method. Who knows  after 4 years bitcoin allready invaded even those small business.
That's true and im agree with you mate there's no crash are going to happen this year even next year people in india needs more bitcoin to start trading and business actually i know there are the reason why the bitcoin price are keep increasing. They starting to adopt bitcoin in there country. i know that in the next year probably establishments are going to accept bitcoin as well hoping.
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rumors have surfaced that at least eight Democratic electors are going to defect from Clinton and support a Republican alternative to Trump as well.
Well its not impossible but I think highly unlikely we see a crash in this way.   I dont mind the possibility of extreme events but I dont especially favor politics upsetting the gravy train in this way.   The upset in this election was from the voters themselves not towing the line as expected which is good, one of my favourite things about democracy is its tendency for self determination and upset to establishment.

My general views on a crash is natural occurrence, its not so much an upset as a reversion to the norm which humans of course try to alter in their own favour all the time.  Economics itself has a natural order to it I think, it seems to be taught as a companion to politics and a minor one but its not determined that way imo.

As far as the crash itself, if it is natural and not managed by government it will have winners and losers to it.    One person sees asset value falling and says crash, its a disaster and another sees they can now enter a market with their limited capital and start work with that lower value.     So long as we have that balance and opportunity in a price decline, its not such a serious crash.    If there is war, its destructive and politics one held claim is that it helps to prevent this disorder but it can also end up being a cause, if too rigid I think


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Just to let you guys know a big crash is coming in 2016 in the economy. There is going to be a huge financial crisis but it will be worse than 2009.

The bitcoin price will skyrocket to over $10,000. However  bitcoin will be banned in all western countries. If you are reading this living in the west you should make preparations to move to Russia or China they are the only places you will be safe owning bitcoins.

The crisis will be so big it will destroy entire countries and in 2017 there will be a civil war in the USA, UK and western europe. After this the world will never be the same again it will change so much by 2020 it will be unrecognizable compared to today.

I think you have been playing Fallout for far too long Cheesy

On the other hand oh shit....... http://www.9news.com.au/National/2016/12/07/11/33/Australia-GDP-declines-by-0-point-5-percent-in-September-quarter-the-first-fall-since-2011
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December 07, 2016, 10:51:28 AM
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My general views on a crash is natural occurrence, its not so much an upset as a reversion to the norm which humans of course try to alter in their own favour all the time.  Economics itself has a natural order to it I think, it seems to be taught as a companion to politics and a minor one but its not determined that way imo

I can't agree with such point of view

Nature intended us to crap in the woods and die at 25. I don't think that many people including you would agree to return to that "norm" (in any case, I certainly wouldn't). Though I tend to agree that a crash could, nevertheless, be considered as a natural occurrence of sorts but not as a reversion to some baseline loosely defined as the norm, but sooner as a device for getting rid of imbalances the hard way. In this way, the outcome of a crash is not set to match what was before ("the norm"). But that doesn't either mean that there are no other ways of doing basically the same, or these other ways should necessarily be considered as "unnatural"

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December 07, 2016, 12:08:59 PM
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We roughly agree in the main of that argument, failure is normal is what Im saying by a natural economy not absolute failure but normal failure.   Whats abnormal is if large imbalances build up, often this comes from subsidy and artificial support, this is where the really large crashes occur and it becomes healthy to return a more normal cycle of failure and successes.  
  I have no wish for people to suffer and die at age 25 just like Ive no got no problem with normal measures to help business but we have gone way too far in recent years where it becomes unhealthy and promotes imbalance and possible crash.   Its better if ideas are tested every day for their ability to profit or not, companies must risk this failure so they can find profitable ventures.

Thats normal capitalism, we do not live with capitalism now its become a stranger in these times.  The government measures to promote home ownership that has led to sub prime debt becoming so wide spread and incorrect pricing in the market becomes accepted as ok.   This is a problem, if we could now say these points are behind us it would be something and there is my point about a benefit to price declines.  Society can progress even from failure or crashes, no need for great fear if it can be navigated.   Just like illness where you develop antibodies is a natural healthy thing to occur despite some may not survive.   I do not wish for the loss on either side of that example
    However the scenario we have today is that mortgages in the market are over 90% backed by government, all over the richest country in the world this has become accepted as normal.     Its an extreme condition, like a dry forest before a fire you have to expect this scenario will not end well or at least prepare for the possible negatives.   This is not capitalism, its strayed far away from that.   The big crash is being prepared every day with larger imbalances, mislabelled as a good thing and ignored for the danger it is.  That is the big crash scenario done with the deliberation and purpose only government can dedicate to such negatives

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