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March 04, 2016, 02:25:15 PM |
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Whenever I read /r/btc I feel like I'm reading /r/SandersForPresident.
You should probably start appreciating Classic and XT supporters a bit more. After all, they're genuinely dedicated to Bitcoin in spite of your censorship and the lunacy of your peers. If they truly wanted to help Bitcoin they would respect the consensus process. Why? |
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forevernoob
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March 04, 2016, 03:03:12 PM |
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Whenever I read /r/btc I feel like I'm reading /r/SandersForPresident.
You should probably start appreciating Classic and XT supporters a bit more. After all, they're genuinely dedicated to Bitcoin in spite of your censorship and the lunacy of your peers. If they truly wanted to help Bitcoin they would respect the consensus process. Why? Because a contentious hard fork might kill Bitcoin. That's a risk someone that is "genuinely dedicated" to Bitcoin should not take. |
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Fatman3001
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March 04, 2016, 03:31:51 PM |
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Whenever I read /r/btc I feel like I'm reading /r/SandersForPresident.
You should probably start appreciating Classic and XT supporters a bit more. After all, they're genuinely dedicated to Bitcoin in spite of your censorship and the lunacy of your peers. If they truly wanted to help Bitcoin they would respect the consensus process. Why? Because a contentious hard fork might kill Bitcoin. That's a risk someone that is "genuinely dedicated" to Bitcoin should not take. I've noticed that otherwise liberal people have become increasingly authoritarian lately. There is a genuine difference of opinion. How this is handled matters. First of all, the people behind the contention have a responsibility as well; second, there are other things than hard forks that can kill Bitcoin. This economic experiment we're running right now, where txs are at the bleeding edge of the block limit with the entire network susceptible to ddos attacks, and later, hopefully(as in: if genuine txs keep growing), users being pushed off the network because of full blocks; is very, very dangerous. |
"I predict the Internet will soon go spectacularly supernova and in 1996 catastrophically collapse." - Robert Metcalfe, 1995
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BlindMayorBitcorn
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March 04, 2016, 03:37:58 PM |
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Whenever I read /r/btc I feel like I'm reading /r/SandersForPresident.
You should probably start appreciating Classic and XT supporters a bit more. After all, they're genuinely dedicated to Bitcoin in spite of your censorship and the lunacy of your peers. If they truly wanted to help Bitcoin they would respect the consensus process. Why? Because a contentious hard fork might kill Bitcoin. That's a risk someone that is "genuinely dedicated" to Bitcoin should not take. I've noticed that otherwise liberal people have become increasingly authoritarian lately. There is a genuine difference of opinion. How this is handled matters. First of all, the people behind the contention have a responsibility as well; second, there are other things than hard forks that can kill Bitcoin. This economic experiment we're running right now, where txs are at the bleeding edge of the block limit with the entire network susceptible to ddos attacks, and later, hopefully(as in: if genuine txs keep growing), users being pushed off the network because of full blocks; is very, very dangerous. Not to mention the fact that SegWit testnet forked and that there’s no way this thing will be ready in a month. (Ok, I mentioned it.) |
Forgive my petulance and oft-times, I fear, ill-founded criticisms, and forgive me that I have, by this time, made your eyes and head ache with my long letter. But I cannot forgo hastily the pleasure and pride of thus conversing with you.
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March 04, 2016, 03:43:15 PM |
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Whenever I read /r/btc I feel like I'm reading /r/SandersForPresident.
You should probably start appreciating Classic and XT supporters a bit more. After all, they're genuinely dedicated to Bitcoin in spite of your censorship and the lunacy of your peers. If they truly wanted to help Bitcoin they would respect the consensus process. Why? Because a contentious hard fork might kill Bitcoin. That's a risk someone that is "genuinely dedicated" to Bitcoin should not take. I've noticed that otherwise liberal people have become increasingly authoritarian lately. There is a genuine difference of opinion. How this is handled matters. First of all, the people behind the contention have a responsibility as well; second, there are other things than hard forks that can kill Bitcoin. This economic experiment we're running right now, where txs are at the bleeding edge of the block limit with the entire network susceptible to ddos attacks, and later, hopefully(as in: if genuine txs keep growing), users being pushed off the network because of full blocks; is very, very dangerous. first of all the people behind the contention have irresponsibly been yapping their utter bullshit all over the place and therefore they have naturally been dismissed for the last year by bitcoin consensus mechanism. second, what are the other things that can kill bitcoin? your ignorance? ps: you can shove your "hopefully" where it belongs, and if anything, the dos attacks clearly makes the case for the 1MB hard limit. |
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Fatman3001
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March 04, 2016, 04:00:51 PM |
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Whenever I read /r/btc I feel like I'm reading /r/SandersForPresident.
You should probably start appreciating Classic and XT supporters a bit more. After all, they're genuinely dedicated to Bitcoin in spite of your censorship and the lunacy of your peers. If they truly wanted to help Bitcoin they would respect the consensus process. Why? Because a contentious hard fork might kill Bitcoin. That's a risk someone that is "genuinely dedicated" to Bitcoin should not take. I've noticed that otherwise liberal people have become increasingly authoritarian lately. There is a genuine difference of opinion. How this is handled matters. First of all, the people behind the contention have a responsibility as well; second, there are other things than hard forks that can kill Bitcoin. This economic experiment we're running right now, where txs are at the bleeding edge of the block limit with the entire network susceptible to ddos attacks, and later, hopefully(as in: if genuine txs keep growing), users being pushed off the network because of full blocks; is very, very dangerous. first of all the people behind the contention have irresponsibly been yapping their utter bullshit all over the place and therefore they have naturally been dismissed for the last year by bitcoin consensus mechanism. second, what are the other things that can kill bitcoin? your ignorance? ps: you can shove your "hopefully" where it belongs, and if anything, the dos attacks clearly makes the case for the 1MB hard limit. Says the btc-shorting troll. I'm sure you're loving this. |
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hdbuck
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March 04, 2016, 04:12:14 PM |
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Whenever I read /r/btc I feel like I'm reading /r/SandersForPresident.
You should probably start appreciating Classic and XT supporters a bit more. After all, they're genuinely dedicated to Bitcoin in spite of your censorship and the lunacy of your peers. If they truly wanted to help Bitcoin they would respect the consensus process. Why? Because a contentious hard fork might kill Bitcoin. That's a risk someone that is "genuinely dedicated" to Bitcoin should not take. I've noticed that otherwise liberal people have become increasingly authoritarian lately. There is a genuine difference of opinion. How this is handled matters. First of all, the people behind the contention have a responsibility as well; second, there are other things than hard forks that can kill Bitcoin. This economic experiment we're running right now, where txs are at the bleeding edge of the block limit with the entire network susceptible to ddos attacks, and later, hopefully(as in: if genuine txs keep growing), users being pushed off the network because of full blocks; is very, very dangerous. first of all the people behind the contention have irresponsibly been yapping their utter bullshit all over the place and therefore they have naturally been dismissed for the last year by bitcoin consensus mechanism. second, what are the other things that can kill bitcoin? your ignorance? ps: you can shove your "hopefully" where it belongs, and if anything, the dos attacks clearly makes the case for the 1MB hard limit. Says the btc-shorting troll. I'm sure you're loving this. Heh me short of bitcoin? Lol Second answer the question you retard: what is It that could kill bitcoin? |
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March 04, 2016, 04:20:02 PM |
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Not to mention the fact that SegWit testnet forked and that there’s no way this thing will be ready in a month. (Ok, I mentioned it.)
Nonsense. You can't possibly know that. The reason for which it is called a testnet is because it supposed to be used for extensive testing (which it is). I'm actually 'glad' that the fork happened there, else something might have been missed before the release. It could be a simple bug, you never know. This economic experiment we're running right now, where txs are at the bleeding edge of the block limit with the entire network susceptible to ddos attacks, and later, hopefully(as in: if genuine txs keep growing), users being pushed off the network because of full blocks; is very, very dangerous.
Still less dangerous than a contentious hard fork. Gavin had one job: 1) consensus threshold (90-95%); 2) Grace period (even Garzik suggested 3-6 months as a minimum). He failed miserably on both. |
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March 04, 2016, 04:28:27 PM |
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Gavin surely is short of bitcoin..  |
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Fatman3001
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March 04, 2016, 04:32:06 PM |
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Innocent little buckie. Never heard of shorting.
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March 04, 2016, 04:34:47 PM |
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Answer the question genuis
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March 04, 2016, 04:35:46 PM |
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Not to mention the fact that SegWit testnet forked and that there’s no way this thing will be ready in a month. (Ok, I mentioned it.)
Nonsense. You can't possibly know that. The reason for which it is called a testnet is because it supposed to be used for extensive testing (which it is). I'm actually 'glad' that the fork happened there, else something might have been missed before the release. It could be a simple bug, you never know.
This economic experiment we're running right now, where txs are at the bleeding edge of the block limit with the entire network susceptible to ddos attacks, and later, hopefully(as in: if genuine txs keep growing), users being pushed off the network because of full blocks; is very, very dangerous.
Still less dangerous than a contentious hard fork. Gavin had one job: 1) consensus threshold (90-95%); 2) Grace period (even Garzik suggested 3-6 months as a minimum). He failed miserably on both. What nonsense? You don’t even know why it forked! |
Forgive my petulance and oft-times, I fear, ill-founded criticisms, and forgive me that I have, by this time, made your eyes and head ache with my long letter. But I cannot forgo hastily the pleasure and pride of thus conversing with you.
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March 04, 2016, 04:37:28 PM |
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What nonsense? You don’t even know why it forked!
There's more than enough time (more than a month -> up to end of April to meet estimate) to figure it out and fix it. The 'nonsense' is your claim that it won't be ready by then based on this singular problem. |
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March 04, 2016, 04:43:56 PM |
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What nonsense? You don’t even know why it forked!
There's more than enough time (more than a month -> up to end of April to meet estimate) to figure it out and fix it. The 'nonsense' is your claim that it won't be ready by then based on this singular problem. So neither of us knows what happened. Fair enough. |
Forgive my petulance and oft-times, I fear, ill-founded criticisms, and forgive me that I have, by this time, made your eyes and head ache with my long letter. But I cannot forgo hastily the pleasure and pride of thus conversing with you.
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forevernoob
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March 04, 2016, 04:54:58 PM |
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I've noticed that otherwise liberal people have become increasingly authoritarian lately. There is a genuine difference of opinion. How this is handled matters.
First of all, the people behind the contention have a responsibility as well; second, there are other things than hard forks that can kill Bitcoin.
This economic experiment we're running right now, where txs are at the bleeding edge of the block limit with the entire network susceptible to ddos attacks, and later, hopefully(as in: if genuine txs keep growing), users being pushed off the network because of full blocks; is very, very dangerous.
You obviously don't know how the consensus process works. It's the opposite of being authoritarian. You are the one being authoritarian when you try to impose your views on us. You don't give a shit about our arguments or anything we do or say. You are just hellbent on getting things your way. That's the wrong approach. https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/seeds-for-change-consensus-decision-making |
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Fatman3001
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March 04, 2016, 05:07:44 PM |
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I've noticed that otherwise liberal people have become increasingly authoritarian lately. There is a genuine difference of opinion. How this is handled matters.
First of all, the people behind the contention have a responsibility as well; second, there are other things than hard forks that can kill Bitcoin.
This economic experiment we're running right now, where txs are at the bleeding edge of the block limit with the entire network susceptible to ddos attacks, and later, hopefully(as in: if genuine txs keep growing), users being pushed off the network because of full blocks; is very, very dangerous.
You obviously don't know how the consensus process works. It's the opposite of being authoritarian. You are the one being authoritarian when you try to impose your views on us. You don't give a shit about our arguments or anything we do or say. You are just hellbent on getting things your way. That's the wrong approach. https:// theanarchistlibrary.org/library/seeds-for-change-consensus-decision-making We're doomed... Edit: "When they can see the whites of your eyes
In emergencies, in situations where urgent and immediate action is necessary, appointing a temporary leader may be the wisest course of action."Where's dev? |
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March 04, 2016, 05:08:16 PM |
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From the first page: Have we figured out who's benefiting here? |
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March 04, 2016, 05:10:13 PM |
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What nonsense? You don’t even know why it forked!
Maybe nobody knows yet, but Lauda is right. This is the proper use of testnet, to weed out network-level problems that cannot be tracked down by static code inspection or debugging sessions. |
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Fatman3001
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March 04, 2016, 05:14:30 PM |
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What nonsense? You don’t even know why it forked!
Maybe nobody knows yet, but Lauda is right. This is the proper use of testnet, to weed out network-level problems that cannot be tracked down by static code inspection or debugging sessions. No doubt, but that wasn't the point. |
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forevernoob
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March 04, 2016, 05:14:54 PM |
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We're doomed...
I suppose you like democracy better? Well I suppose you are right it has worked extremely well for centuries... Oh wait.. It hasn't. Here is the Wikipedia article which I realize I should have linked to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consensus_decision-makingSince you seem scared of the word anarchist. Please read some before you dismiss it. |
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