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April 18, 2016, 10:04:14 PM
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lol right there with you buddy.

Worldwide political instability? Reserve currency close to all-out fight against it's nearest (value pegged) rival? Intangible, cryptographically scarce assets that cannot be confiscated? Hello? Cheesy

hehe, just one more step before tho:




the sooner the govs ban bitcoin, the sooner it wins.
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April 18, 2016, 10:22:57 PM
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lol right there with you buddy.

Worldwide political instability? Reserve currency close to all-out fight against it's nearest (value pegged) rival? Intangible, cryptographically scarce assets that cannot be confiscated? Hello? Cheesy

hehe, just one more step before tho:




the sooner the govs ban bitcoin, the sooner it wins.

Yep, because Bitcoin winning implies the end of enforceable taxation law, any government that actually permits widespread Bitcoin use within the economy will inevitably collapse.

Government begone.

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April 18, 2016, 10:34:40 PM
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https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/supporters-of-mb-bitcoin-blocks-unable-to-convince-miners-to-hard-fork-in-beijing-meeting-1461004264


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‘Train wreck’ would be a suitable term to describe their efforts in Beijing.”

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There are also rumors that miners may have been offered extra money to abandon Bitcoin Core for Bitcoin Classic.

bitcoin talks, bullshit (fiat) walks ... should have offered miners bitcoins  Grin

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April 18, 2016, 11:59:05 PM
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All over Twitter, Reddit, this forum...I'm seeing people left and right turning against Gavin. This is the most bullish development I've seen in bitcoin for years now! I can hardly contain my excitement. Cheesy

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April 19, 2016, 12:10:40 AM
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All over Twitter, Reddit, this forum...I'm seeing people left and right turning against Gavin. This is the most bullish development I've seen in bitcoin for years now! I can hardly contain my excitement. Cheesy


Yeah, Gavin appears as very normal, articulate and even well-intended in respect to the well-being of bitcoin; however, in retrospect, when we see how his various proposals (XT and Classic) seemed to have been aimed at attempts to undermine bitcoin and to divide the bitcoin community (to the extent that there is such a community), it becomes easier to feel resentment towards him (as if he should have known better).

1) Self-Custody is a right.  There is no such thing as "non-custodial" or "un-hosted."  2) ESG, KYC & AML are attack-vectors on Bitcoin to be avoided or minimized.  3) How much alt (shit)coin diversification is necessary? if you are into Bitcoin, then 0%......if you cannot control your gambling, then perhaps limit your alt(shit)coin exposure to less than 10% of your bitcoin size...Put BTC here: bc1q49wt0ddnj07wzzp6z7affw9ven7fztyhevqu9k
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April 19, 2016, 03:10:17 AM
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Quote from: sbapps
Hilarious. I bet Andresen, Smith and Armstrong are furiously writing Medium posts as we speak.

Calling Dr. Flame to the burn ward!   Shocked


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April 19, 2016, 08:09:57 AM
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Awesome!
I call that a victory for Bitcoin!!
The day couldn't start any better! Grin
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April 19, 2016, 08:23:33 AM
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DIE! DIE! why won't you die?



Cheesy

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April 19, 2016, 10:43:36 AM
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Miners represent only a part... where are the users / buyers ?

 

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April 19, 2016, 03:59:08 PM
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Segregated Witness Pull Request by grandmasta sipa

https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7910

It's happening.  Roadmap right on schedule.
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April 19, 2016, 04:33:34 PM
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Segregated Witness Pull Request by grandmasta sipa

https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7910

It's happening.  Roadmap right on schedule.

I wanted to post the same.
Pull request for SegWit implementation, Classic got kicked in the butt.
Man what a beautiful day!! Smiley
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April 19, 2016, 04:38:31 PM
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Segregated Witness Pull Request by grandmasta sipa

https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7910

It's happening.  Roadmap right on schedule.

I wanted to post the same.
Pull request for SegWit implementation, Classic got kicked in the butt.
Man what a beautiful day!! Smiley

I say go post a new thread just for it, it deserves it I think. This one might as well be closed since classic has been confirmed as #R3KT by all economic, mining and technical factors now.
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April 19, 2016, 05:21:54 PM
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classic isn't dead!
I think its been fairly obvious for a while now that core would win the battle.
this latest meeting in china has made that clear as day now.
but the war will not stop here.
IF core can incress capacity and move a lot of TX onto lightning network, clearing enough space for bitcoin to continue to grow for the foreseeable future, then and only then will classic die.





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April 19, 2016, 05:39:43 PM
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Segregated Witness Pull Request by grandmasta sipa

https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7910

It's happening.  Roadmap right on schedule.
I just came to this thread in order to post that but it seems that I'm too late (been a bit busy). The April deadline for Segwit has been met.

I think its been fairly obvious for a while now that core would win the battle.
It is obvious because unlike Classic, Core has real developers and engineers.

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April 19, 2016, 05:51:56 PM
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Oh bad luck, gentlemen.

I'm now entering a new phase: concern about what the dying bankster behemoth will come up with next to bring Bitcoin down. It's possible that brute force is all they've got left, which is possibly bad news in the short term, despite the potential for plenty of corresponding publicity. And the timing seems a little extraordinary, events around the world impacting the legacy financial system are beginning to look like they are coming to the boil.

I feel that it's difficult for state actors to coordinate an attack on bitcoin internationally. Events like Venzeula arresting miners and the Russian parliament contemplating making bitcoin illegal haven't moved the markets much.

Their best bet is still slowly destroying confidence in bitcoin (death by 1000 papercuts), and then perhaps creating a panic when the setting is just right. Fortunately the community has weathered a few such panics already.
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April 19, 2016, 05:55:46 PM
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classic isn't dead!

classic fanboys aren't maybe, but you guys had to be pretty braindead to support it to begin with. Oh no, you're one of these "subtle" fanboys who claimed to "only" support 2MB2MB2MB2MB2MB, right? Cool


Everyone knows Adam, Classic and XT had ZERO to do with scaling, because they weren't credible scaling solutions by any metric, they were designed to slowly strangle Bitcoin (if Gavin Andresen had his way, we'd have 20MB blocks right now, and there'd no chance that people like me could maintain my Bitcoin node).


So, for the umpteenth time, if you haven't got anything sensible to say, be quiet

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April 19, 2016, 06:49:01 PM
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Oh bad luck, gentlemen.

I'm now entering a new phase: concern about what the dying bankster behemoth will come up with next to bring Bitcoin down. It's possible that brute force is all they've got left, which is possibly bad news in the short term, despite the potential for plenty of corresponding publicity. And the timing seems a little extraordinary, events around the world impacting the legacy financial system are beginning to look like they are coming to the boil.

I feel that it's difficult for state actors to coordinate an attack on bitcoin internationally. Events like Venzeula arresting miners and the Russian parliament contemplating making bitcoin illegal haven't moved the markets much.

Their best bet is still slowly destroying confidence in bitcoin (death by 1000 papercuts), and then perhaps creating a panic when the setting is just right. Fortunately the community has weathered a few such panics already.


I think that various government intentions to perpetuate a form of governmental anarchy on the international level has caused them to be a victim of their own success....

1) Self-Custody is a right.  There is no such thing as "non-custodial" or "un-hosted."  2) ESG, KYC & AML are attack-vectors on Bitcoin to be avoided or minimized.  3) How much alt (shit)coin diversification is necessary? if you are into Bitcoin, then 0%......if you cannot control your gambling, then perhaps limit your alt(shit)coin exposure to less than 10% of your bitcoin size...Put BTC here: bc1q49wt0ddnj07wzzp6z7affw9ven7fztyhevqu9k
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April 19, 2016, 07:03:12 PM
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anarchy


Anarchy does not mean "no rules", it means (translated literally from Ancient Greek) "no rulers". We've got the opposite problem; rulers exist, the rules do not (for the rulers, at least)

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April 19, 2016, 07:07:36 PM
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Blockstream controlling LN myth espoused by classic fans should be now put to death -

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/greg-maxwell-lightning-network-better-than-sidechains-for-scaling-bitcoin-1461077424

5 Completely Independent implementations-
    1) Poon, Dryja, Elizabeth Stark , and Olaoluwa Osuntokun - Dryja’s Lightning Network
    2) Rusty Russell - Blockstream's LN implementation
    3) AmikaPay LN implementation
    4) StrawPay  LN implementation
    5) http://thunder.network being developed by  Mats Jerratsch at Blockchain
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April 19, 2016, 08:43:37 PM
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anarchy


Anarchy does not mean "no rules", it means (translated literally from Ancient Greek) "no rulers". We've got the opposite problem; rulers exist, the rules do not (for the rulers, at least)

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