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January 26, 2016, 02:25:09 PM
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Site: http://ethosdistro.com/

Features

Remote configuration: instruct rig to remotely reboot; set core clocks, mem clocks, fan control, pool info, and other settings remotely.
Extremely lightweight: Works with weakest possible CPU made in the last 5 generations on only 1 gb of ram.
Automatic GPU overheat protection: GPUs will automatically turn off if they reach a temperature threshold.
Stratum Proxy: Automatically configured for local stratum proxy, stratum pools can be changed in config.
Boots and mines: IP assignment via DHCP, hostname defined by mac address.
Easy KVM: A terminal window opens with focus on boot, no mouse required.
Automatic reporting: Web panel with detailed rig statistics (example: http://337652.ethosdistro.com/).
DAG file management: SSD won't run out of space.

Requirements

At least 16gb SSD.
64-bit system.

How to Get

ethOS is released pre-loaded on a 16gb SSD.
Buy it at http://mining.gpushack.com/
gpuShack accepts major Credit Cards, PayPal, Amazon Payments, and Bitcoin.

Development

ethOS began development on January 21st and was released on February 15th. ethOS development took approximately 500 man-hours, which is the the equivalent of $25,000 USD at United States Average Linux Developer contractor rates. Therefore, all proceeds from ethOS sales are distributed among the development team.
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January 26, 2016, 03:03:43 PM
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Thanks very much, you make a lot of very good points. For someone that knows linux well, of course this is going to seem easy. But, as you know, no one has released an out-of-the-box ethereum mining solution, even though Ethereum is going crazy and is producing 8x over the cost of power to mine it. So, it is probably not as easy as it sounds.

I have sold 35 mining GPUs last week, and people do seem to like not getting scammed by bitcointalk people who are selling their shitty GPUs. All of gpuShack GPUs are guaranteed stable 24/7 operation.

This isn't just me working on this, I am just gauging interest in the community for this OS. Naturally, there will be future releases.

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If you want to do something for the community. Release this for free, put some ads in there to your webshop or whatever. But don't charge people for something that can be done in 15minutes.

Of course I want to do something for the community, but why release it for free when miners can make so much money that they can afford it? Is this simply greed? I spent the last 72 hours perfecting this for release and only 12 of those hours were sleep.

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For those out there having issues with Ethereum mining on *nix based systems. Send me a pm, i'll help you "FOR FREE".

That is very nice of you, but I think you'll start ripping your hair out after the second guy PMs you. Ethereum mining is very hard to get right for large-scale deployment.
 
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January 26, 2016, 04:42:00 PM
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You are right, but to know which linux OS to use, which version, which drivers, and which miner, is all information that has been collected.

There is no need to state the obvious, ethereum is hot. People will make their own decision whether or not to mine. I am not the only one profiting.

With regards to Ethereum going PoS, that will not happen for an entire year. It is happening when the devs release Serenity. Other coins have come and gone in a month, and no one asked how other out-of-the-box mining solutions will manage that, but for some reason I need to justify limiting support to a single algorithm? litecoin/scrypt had three competing OSs when it had just a 50 million dollar market cap, and ethereum is 4x bigger at 200ml.

With regards to supporting future algorithms, no I will not. The good folks over at getpimp.org can do that.


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Why not releasing it for free? People will remember you, will definitely visit your website for GPU's. You're just forcing people to buy stuff from you, and that is something i hate.

I am not forcing anyone at gunpoint to buy anything. People remember me already, I am not worried about that.

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PS. Windows is better for Ethereum mining.

For small one-rig miners, that is the case. They can mine on windows. Larger farms will appreciate automated solutions.
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January 26, 2016, 11:28:43 PM
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Its even worse than this , not only are you charging for software that could be worthless 6-10 months your outdated 7950 and 280x gpus on your site are pretty bad for mining Eth in the next few months with the rising DAG size.  Right now a 280x only hashes at around 22mh/s down from 26 a few months ago and a 7950 like 18 mh/s

The cards to buy right now are 380 series cards or Nvida since they have more memory and bandwith to handle the larger dag for a lot longer time.

the 7900 series cards will be useless to mine Ethereum in about three months due to the amout of power/hash

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January 26, 2016, 11:41:12 PM
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Its even worse than this , not only are you charging for software that could be worthless 6-10 months your outdated 7950 and 280x gpus on your site are pretty bad for mining Eth in the next few months with the rising DAG size.  Right now a 280x only hashes at around 22mh/s down from 26 a few months ago and a 7950 like 18 mh/s

The cards to buy right now are 380 series cards or Nvida since they have more memory and bandwith to handle the larger dag for a lot longer time.

the 7900 series cards will be useless to mine Ethereum in about three months due to the amout of power/hash

This is a lot of disinformation. Even with DAG size increasing, the best hash/cost GPUs are still the tahiti HD 7950/7970 R9 280/x. If you would like to buy a $400 GTX 980 to mine 12MH/s on it, please be my guest and do it on Windows. ethOS is for people who build farms, not gamers who take a break playing league of legends to mine crypto. You are not the target market.

Please also see https://github.com/ethereum/wiki/wiki/Ethash-Design-Rationale

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The ~0.73x per year growth level was chosen to roughly be balanced with Moore's law increases at least initially (exponential growth has a risk of overshooting Moore's law, leading to a situation where mining requires very large amounts of memory and ordinary GPUs are no longer usable for mining).

Since DAG file is 1.3gb now, in one year, according to above design rationale, it will be 2.24GB, which is way lower than 3GB. Therefore, it makes no sense to buy any GPU that has over 3GB of VRAM. In fact, the mining period will end before the DAG reaches 3GB.

PS. I am not charging for software, according to GLP license (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.en.html). Instead, I am charging for the distribution method and for support, which is extremely common in the linux world (both Ubuntu and Redhat follow portions of this model). You would be surprised how many people would rather not make a ton of ssd clones for their farm.
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January 27, 2016, 04:00:38 AM
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 A lot more GPU mining products in stock now: http://gpushack.com/collections/gpushack
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January 27, 2016, 07:51:57 AM
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Can we tune the GPU voltage and frequency with your OS? It is very important for us as it can reduce the power consumption a lot.
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January 27, 2016, 03:53:38 PM
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Can we tune the GPU voltage and frequency with your OS? It is very important for us as it can reduce the power consumption a lot.

Yes. With regards to frequency tuning, we will investigate, but it seems that hashrate does not increase with core clock on ethereum. With regards to power consumption, ethereum uses about the same power as x11. You would likely only save 10-15watts at the expense of stability.
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January 27, 2016, 05:08:37 PM
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You're going to release an OS, going to charge people for it and you don't even know that it's nearly impossible to adjust voltage levels on unix based systems.

Nearly impossible is not impossible. I have managed a 400 GPU farm and have adjusted voltage on linux. Maybe I know something you don't?

I will keep saying this until people understand: this OS is for large-scale deployment.

Big farmers do not care about voltage control or frequency adjustment, both of which reduce stability at the expense of profit and increase expenses associated with management (large farms have contractors and employees). Large farms run on cheap power already. This is not an OS for people who worry about their parents kicking them out of their basement for using too much electricity.
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January 28, 2016, 04:41:11 AM
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Ethos is designed to run headless.
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January 28, 2016, 01:38:13 PM
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ethOS is being developed in a 100% clean room, from a fork of Ubuntu. Pimp is a fork of an earlier release of debian. ethOS does not share any codebase, trademarks, copyrights, intellectual property, or distribution method with pimp.

ethOS is a single-algorithm operating system meant for large-scale deployments, pimp is a multi-algorithm mining platform meant for home miners. Frankly, calling ethOS a ripoff of pimp is an insult to the pimp team's hard work and intelligence.

PS. Since release two days ago, 5 miners have secured their copy of ethOS from gpuShack. I think its time to realize that you're not the target market and you are just spamming this thread with baseless accusations at this point.
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Second, those that bought a copy wlil soon realise that when the hype is over, you won't be there to support them.

gpuShack has been in business for over a year, and has sold over 4500 GPUs. I will not abandon anyone. Support is offered in #ethereumOS on freenode in case something unforseen happens to me.

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Neither will there magical OS work with any other "new" coin.  Well not out of the box.

Litecoin mining existed for almost two years on GPUs, most of the new coin releases were scrypt. When litecoin mining died, 90% of the miners shut down. I am not interested in 10% of the business. If you remember, all those weird X11/Neoscrypt/vertcoin shit was flash in the pan that barely made any profit.  

I am taking a big risk here, and if ethereum fails, so with ethos. I am prepared to take that risk.

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Than what?

Only NEW algorithms will need a new OS. In that case, PIMP has promised to support them.
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January 29, 2016, 02:01:03 AM
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Happy to report that ethOS is able to mine on just 1 gigabyte of system ram:

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07:59 PM root@e5baa6 192.168.10.102 /home/ethos # free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:        990772     912996      77776         28       8308     384480
-/+ buffers/cache:     520208     470564
Swap:      4166652     184680    3981972
07:59 PM root@e5baa6 192.168.10.102 /home/ethos # ps uax | grep ethminer
ethos     3965 88.3 43.0 3510844 426176 ?      Sl   19:36  20:48 /usr/bin/ethminer -F weipool.org:5555/0x36dbc08bb0175e6443d03ba40a171e3bb27196d6/100 -G --cl-global-work 16384 --farm-recheck 100
root     15641  0.0  0.2  15944  2144 pts/0    S+   19:59   0:00 grep --color=auto ethminer

This will be useful for large-scale deployments, used 1gb ddr3 sticks can be picked up for $6 on ebay.
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January 29, 2016, 04:43:54 AM
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I was looking to build a 2-4 280X Mining computer.
Saw your gpushack-r9-280x and I bet that would be great during Summer.
Do you build complete mining machines, or just the risers, cards and custom fan?

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January 29, 2016, 05:51:41 AM
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I was looking to build a 2-4 280X Mining computer.
Saw your gpushack-r9-280x and I bet that would be great during Summer.
Do you build complete mining machines, or just the risers, cards and custom fan?


I do build custom mining machines, but I would never dream of shipping them. All those loose parts will come apart during transit. Its best to build your own at home. For now, gpuShack is selling only the parts. If I ever figure out how to ship a custom mining rig, I may do that, too.
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January 29, 2016, 09:45:24 AM
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What are all the parts you can supply for it?
I've always built them as complete gamer systems, in case I want to resell them as just normal gaming rigs.
This time, I want 4 GPUs hanging on a cooled rack, PSU, and most minimal cost for the rest.
Could handle hooking them up with the proper cables.
Also are you on ebay or amazon by chance?

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January 29, 2016, 05:06:24 PM
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What are all the parts you can supply for it?
I've always built them as complete gamer systems, in case I want to resell them as just normal gaming rigs.
This time, I want 4 GPUs hanging on a cooled rack, PSU, and most minimal cost for the rest.
Could handle hooking them up with the proper cables.
Also are you on ebay or amazon by chance?

I do not sell on ebay or amazon. My interest is to build a brand and not to pay amazon/ebay commissions of 10% Smiley The only stuff I have for sale are listed on: http://gpushack.com/collections/gpushack

Since you are building one-off machines, you will always find good priced hardware here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/
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January 30, 2016, 03:56:39 AM
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Automatic mining is ready. Hashrate display per GPU is ready.

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$ ssh root@192.168.10.102

Welcome to ethOS

ALL MINING COMMANDS MUST BE RUN AS ROOT

r = reboot
show = tail the miner output
start = manually pull start scripts and attempts to start miner
stop = force kill all miners
allow = allow miner to start from cron
disallow = prevent miner from starting from cron
helpme = show this message

define your pool locally in /home/ethos/local
define your pool remotely in in /home/ethos/remote
if a remote pool is defined, it will *always* over-write local pool

IRC: #ethereumOS on freenode
GPUs: http://mining.gpushack.com

Last login: Fri Jan 29 21:51:33 2016 from 192.168.10.105


Miner was already launched and mining on all 5 gpus, automatically, even before I logged in:

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Last login: Fri Jan 29 21:51:27 2016 from 192.168.10.105
09:51 PM root@e5baa6 192.168.10.102 /root # start
Found fglrx primary device section
Found fglrx primary device section
Found fglrx primary device section
Found fglrx primary device section
Found fglrx primary device section

a miner instance is already running

time:1454125894
uptime:588
mac:bc5ff4e5baa6
hostname:e5baa6
ip:192.168.10.102
mobo:970 Extreme4
gpus:5
load:1.09
ram:1
totaldisk:16
dagdirsize:4
hashrate:20.5 18.5 15.7 20.6 20.6
alive:5

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January 30, 2016, 12:12:02 PM
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Kotarius I have questions about your ethOS  Grin

1. So I just have to plug in your SSD in my mining rig and it starts to mine ?
2. no drivers needed ?
3. Can i install 'TeamViewer' in order to check my mining activity from my office ?
4. Do you use Ubuntu and then you added your custom software ?
5. Does your software support gpu undervolting ?
6. If we have a power cut does the mining starts again automatic ?
6. If the SSD fails-crash what am i doing ?
7. Do you sell just the ethOS with a download link and how much ?

I would like to buy your ethOS and support you but I need answers first.
thank you

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January 30, 2016, 01:06:10 PM
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Ok i got it  Cheesy
So it is one way --> Windows system with msi afterburner or similar ... 

Thanks for your time Eliovp  Smiley

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