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Author Topic: Thoughts on Zcash?  (Read 123325 times)
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October 27, 2016, 07:31:27 PM
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zcash = US Federal Reserve. It creates money, charges a 10% tax, and the ledger cannot be audited.  

The idea of the privacy is what draws you in but greed blinds you to the faults.  All these hypers are blinded by greed.  They do not care that the system is seriously flawed.

Zcash Corp is dangerously launching new tech with no means of auditing the blockchain or totaling coins in circulation.

Ahh gtfo, u just don t ve the money to buy, zcash is what btc failed to be.

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October 27, 2016, 07:32:38 PM
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Zooko doesn't even know how ZK-Snarks work.

That should say a lot.

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October 27, 2016, 08:15:30 PM
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So about genesis-mining added zcash miner and H/s does it mean if I for example buy $500 worth of hash power then how many coins will I be able to mine in a day?


The difficulty of mining will be adjusted depending on the price? if yes then no good to mine this coin.

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October 27, 2016, 08:18:29 PM
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zcash = US Federal Reserve. It creates money, charges a 10% tax, and the ledger cannot be audited.  

The idea of the privacy is what draws you in but greed blinds you to the faults.  All these hypers are blinded by greed.  They do not care that the system is seriously flawed.

Zcash Corp is dangerously launching new tech with no means of auditing the blockchain or totaling coins in circulation.

Ahh gtfo, u just don t ve the money to buy, zcash is what btc failed to be.

Wow, such a great rebuttal for the failure of zcash.  I need to get the fuck out because I dont have the money to buy some zcash.  You have no idea what money i have.  I bet I lost more than you have invested.  I took a $20k hit when cryptsy exit scammed.


Your right though, zcash is will be everything bitcoin is not. 
  • zcash will have a blockchain that cannot be audited which means there is no way to find hacks or track the true circulation.
  • zcash will charge a tax on miners to pay investors - 2.1 million coins across 4 years
  • zcash is a corporation with share holders in the company - what will happen when the corporation needs more money and needs to pay investors?
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October 27, 2016, 09:17:39 PM
Last edit: October 27, 2016, 10:26:31 PM by Bitcoinorama
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zcash = US Federal Reserve. It creates money, charges a 10% tax, and the ledger cannot be audited.  

The idea of the privacy is what draws you in but greed blinds you to the faults.  All these hypers are blinded by greed.  They do not care that the system is seriously flawed.

Zcash Corp is dangerously launching new tech with no means of auditing the blockchain or totaling coins in circulation.

Ahh gtfo, u just don t ve the money to buy, zcash is what btc failed to be.

Wow, such a great rebuttal for the failure of zcash.  I need to get the fuck out because I dont have the money to buy some zcash.  You have no idea what money i have.  I bet I lost more than you have invested.  I took a $20k hit when cryptsy exit scammed.


Your right though, zcash is will be everything bitcoin is not.  
  • zcash will have a blockchain that cannot be audited which means there is no way to find hacks or track the true circulation.
  • zcash will charge a tax on miners to pay investors - 2.1 million coins across 4 years
  • zcash is a corporation with share holders in the company - what will happen when the corporation needs more money and needs to pay investors?

You forget one other flag, it's a corporation issuing privacy based currency based in the privacy friendly US.

Bitcoin's blockchain was revolutionary in that it solved an issue that plagued digital currencies; trustless verification to prevent double spending. Without this one needed to trust centralised parties not to deceive or be coerced.

With Zcash you need to trust Zooko and co not to deceive you to increase the money supply (you wouldnt know otherwise) and not to be coerced (for instance by government), bearing in mind the company Zooko moves with (look at his investors and advisors - the who's who of alt pump and dumps) trust is crucial.

Fact is Zcash is a privacy orientated digital currency that requires complete trust.

Bitcoin is a digital currency where privacy can be incorporated and it trustless.

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October 27, 2016, 09:20:20 PM
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Is there any nvidia miner that is working?
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October 27, 2016, 11:50:25 PM
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Ok so I'm hearing rumblings that there is a Windows based GPU mining software available now to mine ZCash. Is this true? If it's true (find it dubious), then is the Windows miner able to use AMD Radeon drivers?
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October 28, 2016, 12:15:33 AM
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So about genesis-mining added zcash miner and H/s does it mean if I for example buy $500 worth of hash power then how many coins will I be able to mine in a day?


The difficulty of mining will be adjusted depending on the price? if yes then no good to mine this coin.

you are better off using nicehash.
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October 28, 2016, 02:03:26 AM
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Zooko doesn't even know how ZK-Snarks work.

That should say a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6RLjcGVUnw&feature=youtu.be&t=17m30s

you are correct!

people will follow pigs to the slaughter house in cryptos and thats what we will see w zcash
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October 28, 2016, 02:07:53 AM
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How i know that i minning the real Zcash and not test server? started right now
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October 28, 2016, 03:51:40 AM
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You only need one honest member in the "trusted setup" to make it work right?

That's easy. Hire a bunch of guys who are deemed trustworthy, who say they will do it properly, and then trash the system they did it on (burn it, destroy it, drop a giant car magnet on it, etc.) If they get the top 10 or 20 trustworthy people / coders / escrow / ... it's like the firing squad theory where the "guilt" of execution is distributed so more people are likely to actually hit the target, but you only need one person to hit so everyone else can miss.

Appears they only had 6 (yes, six) people generating the parameters. Peter T. Odd was one of them, and the rest are probably Zcash team.  Roll Eyes
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October 28, 2016, 04:14:44 AM
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Zooko doesn't even know how ZK-Snarks work.

That should say a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6RLjcGVUnw&feature=youtu.be&t=17m30s

Thats why I stopped supporting SDC. Bit to yeehaaaa on the real propellerhead stuff for my liking. This thing is potentially a timebomb. Plus not in the spirit of trusted financial sovereignty. Unlike XMR

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October 28, 2016, 04:32:54 AM
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Total amount of ZCash will be ?
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October 28, 2016, 04:49:25 AM
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Total amount of ZCash will be ?

well that is one of my major concerns....

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October 28, 2016, 06:13:15 AM
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Total amount of ZCash will be ?
well that is one of my major concerns....

Nobody really ever knows, technical impossibility. Bazillions most likely, up to endless supply. But inside Developper's hands.

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October 28, 2016, 06:21:36 AM
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Total amount of ZCash will be ?

21 million like Bitcoin
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October 28, 2016, 06:34:40 AM
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Total amount of ZCash will be ?

21 million like Bitcoin
Yeh, simple question, simple answer

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October 28, 2016, 07:51:35 AM
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What cloud mining service would you guys prefer? Zcash-miner(for 1 year contract) or Nicehash?
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October 28, 2016, 08:22:47 AM
Last edit: October 28, 2016, 09:08:22 AM by Zeta0S
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What cloud mining service would you guys prefer? Zcash-miner(for 1 year contract) or Nicehash?
Nicehash is not a cloudminer. At least not in the traditional way.

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October 28, 2016, 09:06:11 AM
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