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October 28, 2016, 09:31:33 PM
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The only real winners will be the founders/cooperations behind zcash.

Doing "nothing", getting 20% of each block, sell at insanely inflated prices to naive buyers who fell for the marketing/hype.

Are people really that blind?

Some yes. But as I already said, i guess most logged buys are just fake buys (zcash offers, zcash buys) --> hype hype hype

Most likely right, because even if some are totally stupid the high volume can't be explained with that.

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October 28, 2016, 09:34:35 PM
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The only real winners will be the founders/cooperations behind zcash.

Doing "nothing", getting 20% of each block, sell at insanely inflated prices to naive buyers who fell for the marketing/hype.

Are people really that blind?

Some yes. But as I already said, i guess most logged buys are just fake buys (zcash offers, zcash buys) --> hype hype hype

Most likely right, because even if some are totally stupid the high volume can't be explained with that.

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I think we are whatching one of the biggest scam ever in the crypto community
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October 28, 2016, 09:39:47 PM
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The only real winners will be the founders/cooperations behind zcash.

Doing "nothing", getting 20% of each block, sell at insanely inflated prices to naive buyers who fell for the marketing/hype.

Are people really that blind?

Some yes. But as I already said, i guess most logged buys are just fake buys (zcash offers, zcash buys) --> hype hype hype

Most likely right, because even if some are totally stupid the high volume can't be explained with that.

2323.17968481 BTC / 31.67221072 ZEC

I think we are whatching one of the biggest scam ever in the crypto community


I don't think it's a scam, even if I'm not a fan because of the trusted setup.

But I believe it's market-manipulation - not necessarily from the team. My guess would be mining-farms.

Just speculation of course, but imagine you have a million-dollar-mining-farm and maybe connections to others. It wouldn't be hart to play a near-to-zero-supply-market that way to try to establish as high prices as possible.
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October 28, 2016, 09:42:14 PM
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Zcash ? Zcamsh.
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October 28, 2016, 09:42:44 PM
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The only real winners will be the founders/cooperations behind zcash.

Doing "nothing", getting 20% of each block, sell at insanely inflated prices to naive buyers who fell for the marketing/hype.

Are people really that blind?

Some yes. But as I already said, i guess most logged buys are just fake buys (zcash offers, zcash buys) --> hype hype hype

Most likely right, because even if some are totally stupid the high volume can't be explained with that.

2323.17968481 BTC / 31.67221072 ZEC

I think we are whatching one of the biggest scam ever in the crypto community


I don't think it's a scam, even if I'm not a fan because of the trusted setup.

But I believe it's market-manipulation - not necessarily from the team. My guess would be mining-farms.

Just speculation of course, but imagine you have a million-dollar-mining-farm and maybe connections to others. It wouldn't be hart to play a near-to-zero-supply-market that way to try to establish as high prices as possible.

Everything could be..
But for sure this price is unsustainable, and maybe the devs, plus some miners as you said are manipulating the market. In the "normal"world it is called fraud.
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October 28, 2016, 09:44:20 PM
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Actual Zcash exchange rates across major online exchanges on Cryptonator https://www.cryptonator.com/rates/ZEC-BTC

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October 28, 2016, 10:05:01 PM
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October 28, 2016, 10:05:13 PM
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Todd specifically Tweeted not to use his participation as endorsement!!!

I did not take it that way and I didn't represent it that way. Exactly because he is NOT a Zcash-fan it can be nearly excluded that he would be part of some kind of conspiracy.

Because he is not a Zcash fan he could've saved the private key and publish it at a suitable time while shorting the hell out of it on the markets lol.
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October 28, 2016, 10:09:06 PM
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Actual Zcash exchange rates across major online exchanges on Cryptonator https://www.cryptonator.com/rates/ZEC-BTC

Total 24h Volume: 39 ZEC lel

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October 28, 2016, 10:13:33 PM
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Can someone explain me this please.

There was something like a "master"key generated at the beginning correct?
This was one key?
This key, six of the team devs saw and claimed to had deleted instantly yes?
Was this key on one maschine shown or at the same time on each dev. computer?
With that key it is possible to generate unlimited coins?
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October 28, 2016, 10:18:01 PM
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Can someone explain me this please.

There was something like a "master"key generated at the beginning correct?
This was one key?
This key, six of the team devs saw and claimed to had deleted instantly yes?
Was this key on one maschine shown or at the same time on each dev. computer?
With that key it is possible to generate unlimited coins?


The key... I dont know... but take a look: https://github.com/zcash/zcash/issues/738

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October 28, 2016, 10:19:22 PM
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To make a Zcash withdrawal from Poloniex, it is needed around $1000 (0.01 ZEC) of fee  Grin Grin Grin

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October 28, 2016, 10:21:56 PM
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To make a #Zcash withdrawal from Poloniex, it is needed around $1000 (0.01 $ZEC) of fee  Grin Grin Grin

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I rather use my commercial bank, the fees are cheaper LOL
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October 28, 2016, 10:24:21 PM
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To make a #Zcash withdrawal from Poloniex, it is needed around $1000 (0.01 $ZEC) of fee  Grin Grin Grin

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I rather use my commercial bank, the fees are cheaper LOL

the be precise is 0.0001 zec "just" a couple of dollars!
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October 28, 2016, 10:52:20 PM
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Something seems to be wrong.

Just these addresses already have > 70 ZEC:


https://explorer.zcha.in/accounts/t3Vz22vK5z2LcKEdg16Yv4FFneEL1zg9ojd   22.257749999999994 ZEC

https://explorer.zcha.in/accounts/t1KHa9CJeCy3b9rUX2BhqkFJXSxSSrhM7LJ    5.948611299999998 ZEC

https://explorer.zcha.in/accounts/t1SaATQbzURpG1qU3vz9Wfn3pwXoTqFtTq2    25.86 ZEC

https://explorer.zcha.in/accounts/t1KstPVzcNEK4ZeauQ6cogoqxQBMDSiRnGr   12.632 ZEC

https://explorer.zcha.in/accounts/t1K3HfLpbqzoWx1sv7wHAHjjyrPYyzacZUq      4.1585 ZEC
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October 28, 2016, 10:52:31 PM
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31 btc per zec on Polo Huh

Where is ?huh? when you need him ...
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October 28, 2016, 11:55:21 PM
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Something seems to be wrong.

https://explorer.zcha.in/accounts/t3Vz22vK5z2LcKEdg16Yv4FFneEL1zg9ojd   22.257749999999994 ZEC


It's called the Founder's Reward...
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October 29, 2016, 08:44:29 AM
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where can i find the main zcash thread in bitcointalk?

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October 29, 2016, 08:57:11 AM
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where can i find the main zcash thread in bitcointalk?

There are many threads but none is official. There is this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1626185.0;topicseen

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October 29, 2016, 08:59:05 AM
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where can i find the main zcash thread in bitcointalk?

They have an official forum: https://forum.z.cash

Non-official Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/zec/
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