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April 07, 2016, 03:07:52 PM
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SAFE EXCHANGE COIN "SEC" ico price is 4 sat now they hitting 500sat on trex

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April 07, 2016, 03:10:11 PM
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How about if any trade Exchange sees an opportunity
To hop on the IOU bandwagon could potentially increase
Its overall volume, transaction fees, & memberbase from trading Lisk i meant IOU's.. lol

●Gatecoin/Auguar/IOU
●Yobit/Lisk/IOU
●bloombit/Lisk/IOU

 Who next to hop on the Lisk IOU bandwagon

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April 07, 2016, 03:10:18 PM
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*** 1 LISK = 0.09510188 ***

hola, I went out at approx. 0.08 with profits of > 2000% converted back to BTC. Now my question is what will the actual LISKs be worth after the release has settled in?
The funkiest part about this undoubtedly is that its all an entirely Yobit-fabricated scheme # lisk unreleased # 2000% price increase on imaginary tokens. I don't even own the actual LISK assets unfortunately (*´ェ`*)

why i always see newbie account with "2000xxx%" profit talks  Grin

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April 07, 2016, 03:11:19 PM
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*** 1 LISK = 0.09510188 ***

hola, I went out at approx. 0.08 with profits of > 2000% converted back to BTC. Now my question is what will the actual LISKs be worth after the release has settled in?
The funkiest part about this undoubtedly is that its all an entirely Yobit-fabricated scheme # lisk unreleased # 2000% price increase on imaginary tokens. I don't even own the actual LISK assets unfortunately (*´ェ`*)

why i always see newbie account with "2000xxx%" profit talks  Grin

One can have several accounts on Bitcointalk. It's endorsed. A person isn't composed of just one personality. I believe you're a different person in different places and situations, and it's uncomfortable to mix all of these personalities into one. Besides, it would perhaps be a smart view if one expects that readers should really judge posts purely on the merit of their arguments, though, and not based on how many people said something or how many posts someone has.
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April 07, 2016, 03:13:01 PM
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Somebody can explain me, why LISK better than eth?

LISK HOLDS THE FOLLOWING ADVANTAGES OVER ETHERIUM:

Javascript language simplicity vs Solidity language complexity
Like I said ... easy to write a Javascript compiler to Ethereum bytecode  
Let me know when it's done...or even started.  Even if an Ethereum JavaScript compiler  existed, Solidity is still an unstable language - why paste a compiler on top of it?

100,000+ JavaScript programmers vs. few Solidity programmers
The above argument eliminates this so called advantage of lisk
The above argument is vaporware.  JavaScript programmers can start coding Lisk dapps right now.

Single hash generated  vs. trillions of valid but discarded hashes generated to secure blockchain in one blocktime
Makes no sense at all
I've explained this several times.  Churning out trillions of wasted hashes means lots of wasted electricity - like literally a nuclear powerplant's worth for Bitcoin - and is an ever-growing financial overhead that will ultimately kill the coin.

Cooperative, efficient blockchain generation vs. competitive, wasteful blockchain generation
looks like the same as above
No, it's the key reason Lisk can run on a $9 CHIP computer and Ethereum can't.  Economies of scale hugely favor Lisk over BTC/ETH.

Stable roundtable clockwork forging vs. unsustainable, exponentially growing free-for-all mining
Forging is no different than mining ... just different ways to make the currency
It is so sad to see people that don't understand enough math to get why exponential growth is unsustainable, or why a stable system is different and better from an unstable one.

Dapps on individual sidechains vs. dapps on bloated mainchain
Ethereum dapps are also sidechains .. lol .. you seem to be uninformed
The Ethereum Guide says its dapps are deployed on the mainchain ( https://gavofyork.gitbooks.io/turboethereum/content/dapps_deployment.html ).  Practically, in Ethereum dapps are just specialized "contracts".  There's my showdown cards in this poker hand - what's your counter-reference to prove what you are saying about Ethereum sidechains?  Prove to me that each dapp in Ethereum has its own separate blockchain as they do in Lisk.

Min of 2-4 to max of 101 cheap $35 Pi2 / $9 CHIP microcomputers needed for each sidechain backbone vs. large, unlimited numbers of expensive GPU systems needed for mainchain backbone
The GPU rings will not be used once POS for eth sets in
So...PoS for ETH is vaporware, got it.  How can you know that Eth PoS will run on microcomputers like Lisk does if ETH PoS finally shows up?  What happens to all those sad little GPU miners whose income stream will be cut off?

Sidechain dapps permanently free vs. mainchain perpetual "gas" payments required
Ah ... What can possibly be the use of the beloved LISK then ...
What part of "free" vs. "paying for ETH gas" is so hard to understand?  Free is better.  Lisk is still the exchange coin of choice within the dapp itself.

Difference between Lisk Forging and Ethereum Mining

With Lisk, generating a new block for the blockchain is called "forging" (in the "blacksmith" instead of the "counterfeiter" sense of that term), not mining.  Mining is a Bitcoin / Etherium term that refers to competitive generation of thousands of millions of billions of useless hashes looking for a string of leading zeros in the hash that is a "lucky ticket" declaring a particular miner to be the winner of a reward.  Forging is a cooperative  generation of one and only one necessary hash to secure the Lisk blockchain, for which you are paid a set fee when it's your turn to do it.  During the first year a Lisk forger makes 5 Lisk per block forged, which happens like clockwork about once every 17 minutes, for a total of 150K Lisk in the first year.

In a pure PoS system, the richest coin holders that set up a forging node get most of the rewards from running those nodes.  With DPoS, anybody can set up a forging node no matter how much or how little of the coin they hold, as long as they pay (for Lisk) a 100 coin start fee.   Under DPoS, a poor coin holder / node runner gets the same rewards as a rich coin holder / node runner.  Thus there is incentive for poor coin holders to run a good node to increase their coin holdings.  Since there's a lot more poor coin holders than rich ones, the pool of potential node runners is much bigger.  This is a Good Thing.

Lisk generating only one hash per blocktime is one of its huge advantages over Bitcoin and Ethereum and their huge waste of resources.  

Lisk is literally trillions of times more efficient in CPU cycles per block generated compared to Bitcoin or Ethereum.  This is why Lisk can use really cheap computers, while Bitcoin and Ethereum are trapped forever to use a hugely expensive, wasteful and unneeded overhead infrastructure - all those warehouses full of mining rigs, whether ASIC or GPU based.

Now THAT'S stupid - and most Bitcoin and Ethereum people have no idea just how stupid it is.  

Lisk Coin Inflation Is Much Lower Than Ethereum Coin Inflation


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April 07, 2016, 03:17:11 PM
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mining is not stupid, its classic art of crypto,

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April 07, 2016, 03:18:50 PM
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mining is not stupid, its classic art of crypto,

The chinese own POW mining now. lol Although I do like the art of pow mining.
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April 07, 2016, 03:24:00 PM
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mining is not stupid, its classic art of crypto


Mining is art.
never the less it's more likely than not stupid when it comes to energy waste. Let's facilitate reuse of energy and promote green energy and pretty buds flowering instead of mining operations for digital platforms. It will make us all happier, and it is smarter too.
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April 07, 2016, 03:46:15 PM
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haha, panic sale of overpriced pseudo LISKs  Smiley

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April 07, 2016, 03:49:44 PM
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So we have 2 exchanges now:

*grabs popcorn*

just came from work .. i lostsomething ..
yobit and???   

and another question ,,, i validated my  exchanges succesfully . what now??
wich adress should i give to get the bounty coins?
thank you

The other exchange is bloombit. As for the bounty coins, i really do not know.

Behold the Tangle Mysteries! Dare to know It's truth.

- Excerpt from the IOTA Sacred Texts Vol. I
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April 07, 2016, 03:51:30 PM
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haha, panic sale of overpriced pseudo LISKs  Smiley

0.019 to 0.012... where the rocket gone?

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April 07, 2016, 03:55:19 PM
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haha, panic sale of overpriced pseudo LISKs  Smiley

0.019 to 0.012... where the rocket gone?

Rocket is not launching until the end of April

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April 07, 2016, 03:57:22 PM
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will sell LISK 1100, pls PM


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April 07, 2016, 03:58:26 PM
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I also sell lisk but a bit expensive.
If someone can affort it please pm me!
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April 07, 2016, 04:03:00 PM
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haha, panic sale of overpriced pseudo LISKs  Smiley

0.019 to 0.012... where the rocket gone?
Starter excitement?
Wait for a dump and then buy, we will probably see many Pumps and dumps , like we saw with ETH.
I will place my orders lower when panic start maybe i will have luck..
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April 07, 2016, 04:03:54 PM
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mining is not stupid, its classic art of crypto,

Mining is stupid.  

Mining was a way to get cryptocoins started, just like sails and coal steamships were a way to get international commerce started.  Today, container ships rule.  So will Lisk.

Mining is stupid.
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April 07, 2016, 04:12:45 PM
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Who know when YoBit open wallets for funding?


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April 07, 2016, 04:14:33 PM
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haha, panic sale of overpriced pseudo LISKs  Smiley

0.019 to 0.012... where the rocket gone?

The reason why the price is going down now is because the second exchange "Bloombit" appeared and YoBit no longer has monopoly over LISK price

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April 07, 2016, 04:15:36 PM
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Yes in bloombit its only 2$ i think they are also selling their lisk ICO as token. Grab some cheap which are getting bought very fast now.

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April 07, 2016, 04:17:32 PM
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*** 1 LISK = 0.09510188 ***

hola, I went out at approx. 0.08 with profits of > 2000% converted back to BTC. Now my question is what will the actual LISKs be worth after the release has settled in?
The funkiest part about this undoubtedly is that its all an entirely Yobit-fabricated scheme # lisk unreleased # 2000% price increase on imaginary tokens. I don't even own the actual LISK assets unfortunately (*´ェ`*)

why i always see newbie account with "2000xxx%" profit talks  Grin

One can have several accounts on Bitcointalk. It's endorsed. A person isn't composed of just one personality. I believe you're a different person in different places and situations, and it's uncomfortable to mix all of these personalities into one. Besides, it would perhaps be a smart view if one expects that readers should really judge posts purely on the merit of their arguments, though, and not based on how many people said something or how many posts someone has.



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