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April 23, 2016, 07:14:09 PM |
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Is fully working or it cames out without dapp?
You don't seem to understand, that its not the Lisk devs role to come up with dapps. They need to provide a platform, that others can build dapps on. |
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April 23, 2016, 07:15:54 PM |
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Someone reading this thread in the last few weeks may not think much of the Lisk community, as most who wanted to have serious discussions are somewhat abandonded this place (me included).
While ppl here talk about moon, scam, wave, etc, others who want to run delegates are forming a community, helping each other, discussing technical details, creating guides, tutorials, monitoring and other tools, scripts, server setups, some making great suggestions about Lisk code on github, analyzing logs, trying to plan to maximize delegate uptimes.Making plans with various contingencies, making and testing nodes and backup nodes, thinking about ddos protections and other possible ways to help the network during a possible attack.
You can't ask a technical question in the chat and not get an answer no matter the hours of the day.
People are forming a community, one that will determine the future of Lisk. Some may do it for hope of a profit, but they are doing it, and this is good, very good for lisk. This effort will be the backbone of the future of Lisk, not just the tecnhological but the social. Developers getting interested, several people are planning or already actively developting various apps to run on the Lisk side-chains.
Meanwhile Oliver is making serious changes to the Lisk code based on experience on the test net. These changes will make a more successful launch, with better security, more stable and faster Lisk. This is more than worth the wait, unless you are only waiting for the genesis block to sell your Lisk as fast as possible.
TL;DR If you just look at this thread once a week and don't see any progress, it doesn't mean that nothing is happening.
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April 23, 2016, 07:17:04 PM |
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Is fully working or it cames out without dapp?
You don't seem to understand, that its not the Lisk devs role to come up with dapps. They need to provide a platform, that others can build dapps on. Yes,sorry. thanks, i mean, this platform is 100% working at launch,or not? |
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April 23, 2016, 07:20:16 PM |
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Is fully working or it cames out without dapp?
You don't seem to understand, that its not the Lisk devs role to come up with dapps. They need to provide a platform, that others can build dapps on. Yes,sorry. thanks, i mean, this platform is 100% working at launch,or not? no it will not be. with more ico money they think they can hire more poeple to make it work. or just run with the money. !!( (they already did it))!! you all have been scammed big time.. |
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April 23, 2016, 07:22:11 PM |
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Yes,sorry.
thanks, i mean, this platform is 100% working at launch,or not?
Hope they dont' say that platform is not ready and it comes soon in future.
Yes it is fully working. Anyone can use the testnet to try it, or even create their own testnet. There is much work to be done however. Oliver is working a lot (I assume  ), but after ICO funds been released Lisk will need more core devs for sure. Crypti devs made a fine code, but from what I seen Crypti code would not be able to handle the amount of transactions and attention Lisk is going to get. Oliver is workin so Lisk code can. and it will. |
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April 23, 2016, 07:22:52 PM |
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April 23, 2016, 07:25:11 PM |
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What are everyone's favourite DAPP proposals so far? What is clearly the most innovative? I'm very interested in this little decentralized app thingies  Have you looked at https://forum.lisk.io/viewforum.php?f=8 , several pages of Dapp proposals. Mine are: Those are proposals. Would like to know if lisk is fully working as eth did at launch to build. Not proposal..... Is fully working or it cames out without dapp? Dapps have been working since September with Crypti but kinda buggy to get deployed. There were a couple of sample dapps and a tutorial to install them. A lot of the community developer activity of late has been focused on securing, deploying, and testing delegates since this is the critical backbone of the network. There are people developing dapps as well. The delegate development will also be applicable to running dapp clusters for future projects. This activity is all happening in lisk chat, the lisk forum, and Telegram. |
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April 23, 2016, 07:26:51 PM |
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Any tutorial,github source to learn and code?
go to liskforum.io or lisk chat. its all there yup, and if you google lisk, this thread comes out in the top 4. Everything you need to know about lisk is on the OP too. FUD, and hype is normal in every altcoin thread. Founf nothing about build dapp? Is lisk enable to build dapp like eth, ot is just dreaming to be like eth? Eth cames out at launch with a fully dapp code and environment ready to be used by bank,government etc. What is about lisk dapp? Didn't found any internaitonal meeting around world with lisk dec showing from scratch how to code a dapp. Eth was full of video from teams months before release
Plenty of videos & tutorials on the web about building Lisk Dapps.
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April 23, 2016, 07:27:18 PM |
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What to say to someone who doesn't know the difference between java and javascript?
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April 23, 2016, 07:28:09 PM |
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Is fully working or it cames out without dapp?
You don't seem to understand, that its not the Lisk devs role to come up with dapps. They need to provide a platform, that others can build dapps on. Yes,sorry. thanks, i mean, this platform is 100% working at launch,or not? no it will not be. with more ico money they think they can hire more poeple to make it work. or just run with the money. !!( (they already did it))!! you all have been scammed big time.. The platform is currently in internal testing and should be "Dapp ready" upon launch. As with any platform, there are optimizations that need to be done during the early phase. Funds are still being held by trusted escrow and will not be released until a successful Lisk launch. The stability and reliability of the platform is of utmost importance and Oliver is working to achieve this. |
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April 23, 2016, 07:30:53 PM |
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Is fully working or it cames out without dapp?
You don't seem to understand, that its not the Lisk devs role to come up with dapps. They need to provide a platform, that others can build dapps on. Yes,sorry. thanks, i mean, this platform is 100% working at launch,or not? no it will not be. with more ico money they think they can hire more poeple to make it work. or just run with the money. !!( (they already did it))!! you all have been scammed big time.. The platform is currently in internal testing and should be "Dapp ready" upon launch. As with any platform, there are optimizations that need to be done during the early phase. Funds are still being held by trusted escrow and will not be released until a successful Lisk launch. The stability and reliability of the platform is of utmost importance and Oliver is working to achieve this.  |
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April 23, 2016, 07:33:46 PM |
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FUD all day, FUD all night.
Stop hating.
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April 23, 2016, 07:36:28 PM |
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What to say to someone who doesn't know the difference between java and javascript?
But I DO know the difference between Java and Javascript... Let's teach to our guest "cisahasa" what it means, he is confused |
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April 23, 2016, 07:44:39 PM |
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The average Joe doesn't know what the Internet of Things or future disrupting techs are. He's going to know what they are AFTER it has reached massive adoption; he will just know how to use them.
For any crypto-currency to reach mass adoption, it needs to be combined with emerging technologies such as the Internet of Things, artificial intelligence, autonomous vehicles, among others. Lisk is a platform that runs decentralized applications, so combining the Lisk platform to the IoT is very possible. Blockchain technology has evolved past its terminology of "digital money", it's much more than that; it is capable of connecting billions of devices with higher efficiency and lower fees.
Ok, I (and average Joe with me) can follow you there. But Why do we need 'coins' for that? Two years ago, bitcoin hit the news with pumps and dumps. Not a word about blockchain. Now blockchain hits the news as a technology but not a word about bitcoin (local media in my small European country). People can imagine the technology could be useful when everything is connected to the internet. But why the use of coins that are very unstable in price?? I see, among the numerous dapps proposed, an emailsystem. People don't want to pay for that! And IF you need a certain amount of Lisk/btc/whatever-coin (now there's your Doge2  ) an the coin is worth 1$ day one and 25$ day 30 then back to 3$ day 31, they don't buy it (in both ways)... So: Tech: great great! blockchain, IoT: super but coins? Nah.... Just look at this or any thread of altcoins in the last years: 10% tech, 70% Moon, rockets get your engines started and 20% memes. Looks childish, shady, Ponzi and VERY VERY unstable. I posted this remark in the NXT-thread when they started their trip to the moon(yey, I was there), in the NEM-thread (same thing) at the beginning: Let's say the tech is superb AND the price is fixed at 0.10$ and it will NEVER change but the tech is AWESOME. How popular would these threads be?  dumb guy from indonesia Wow man, you got me there with that comment. Can't argue with those arguments. But Indonesia? lol... Still no answers on: 'Let's say the tech is superb AND the price is fixed at 0.10$ and it will NEVER change but the tech is AWESOME. How popular would these threads be?' The price will likely fluctuate throughout its lifespan as supply and demand increases/decreases. The value of the platform won't be stable until it is deemed "worthy" or "accepted", and this takes time, tons of it. It's not only about the technology, there are other factors to take into consideration such as exposure, marketing, data analytics, partnerships and so on. Crypti is the perfect example of a "Tech Focus" approach with barely any marketing or exposure. They failed to get any attention from the crypto community or non-crypto as it was not exposed or never heard of, even though the backend technology was excellent. How popular will this thread be? I believe it will be very popular for these upcoming months (short term), and maybe up to a year. Once the community has begun establishing and distinguishing itself, this thread will likely lose popularity. The community has already begun to stray from this thread into the official Lisk forums, the lisk chat and Lisk reddit. There is also a Lisk Markets reddit made for those who get excited speculating the potential price and value of LISK. |
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April 23, 2016, 07:54:02 PM |
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What to say to someone who doesn't know the difference between java and javascript?
But I DO know the difference between Java and Javascript... Let's teach to our guest "cisahasa" what it means, he is confused yep. im having fun here.. i like the injections.. |
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April 23, 2016, 08:12:56 PM |
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Ok, I (and average Joe with me) can follow you there. But Why do we need 'coins' for that? Two years ago, bitcoin hit the news with pumps and dumps. Not a word about blockchain. Now blockchain hits the news as a technology but not a word about bitcoin (local media in my small European country). People can imagine the technology could be useful when everything is connected to the internet. But why the use of coins that are very unstable in price?? I see, among the numerous dapps proposed, an emailsystem. People don't want to pay for that! And IF you need a certain amount of Lisk/btc/whatever-coin (now there's your Doge2 ) an the coin is worth 1$ day one and 25$ day 30 then back to 3$ day 31, they don't buy it (in both ways)... So: Tech: great great! blockchain, IoT: super but coins? Nah.... Just look at this or any thread of altcoins in the last years: 10% tech, 70% Moon, rockets get your engines started and 20% memes. Looks childish, shady, Ponzi and VERY VERY unstable. I posted this remark in the NXT-thread when they started their trip to the moon(yey, I was there), in the NEM-thread (same thing) at the beginning: Let's say the tech is superb AND the price is fixed at 0.10$ and it will NEVER change but the tech is AWESOME. How popular would these threads be? You need coins because the only way to get rid of them as an anti-spam mechanism is to have a permissioned blockchain. They need to be unstable in price because otherwise somebody needs to be in charge to tell everyone how much they are worth and to enforce that. In other words, the answer to both these questions is decentralization. I agree that its annoying when people are so obsessed with a quick buck and have no respect for the developers or the tech though. |
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April 23, 2016, 08:21:49 PM |
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What are everyone's favourite DAPP proposals so far? What is clearly the most innovative? I'm very interested in this little decentralized app thingies Have you looked at https://forum.lisk.io/viewforum.php?f=8 , several pages of Dapp proposals. Mine are: Those are proposals. Would like to know if lisk is fully working as eth did at launch to build. Not proposal..... Is fully working or it cames out without dapp? Eth fully working at launch ? Did you laugh in my face ? its well advanced,sure,but its still under heavy development and there's not alot of thing currently working(dapp etc). |
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April 23, 2016, 08:52:37 PM |
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What is the minimum you would sell Lisk for? .002?
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April 23, 2016, 08:54:36 PM |
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problem solved! ok back to this again  / | \ | / \ | | |
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