Proof that God exists

[eon89]

Humans have advanced through the many years, landed on the moon, made test-tube babies, carried out heart transplants, things that wouldn't be even dreamed of in the past, yet they are limited, no scientist today has justified the existence of man and how the planet/earth has come into existence. It means God only created Earth and then human.

Not only this but, humans have declined in humanitarian qualities. How do we know? The way that many of the advancements have been made is to steal other peoples' prosperity by stealing their property through taxation and other methods... methods used to do stupid things like landing on the moon, making test-tube babies, carrying out heart transplants when it would be a whole lot more beneficial to heal the heart, and a whole lot of other stupid things that wouldn't have been dreamed of in the past.

Meanwhile, the people who have had their property stolen, live in tent cities and poverty, and their plight is barely reported on by the media.

The so-called advancement of mankind is disgusting when you look at the destruction some people do to other people just to advance themselves.

 

The moon landing is stupid? Going from earth to the Moon itself, one of greatest feats humanity has ever made? A testament to our spirit? Heart transplants? Giving people the chance to live some more? Or people who can't have children the opportunity to do so?

And so that you'll not comment: I agree with the taxation part. I'm not against you just because we're carrying a polemic here about some other topic.

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[af_newbie]

You do realize the staggering amount of incest needed to create a race from 2 people. Theoretically speaking. Because if it were needed to repopulate the earth again it would be needed something like 300.00 people in order to avoid the terrible genetic inbred consequences that would result otherwise.

Which is evidence against the creation story...

The theory of evolution does not start with 2 people... it is the continuous progression of small adaptations in a gene pool of a species, that over time add up to large changes... it does not start with 2 people, but a group/herd of people/animals... no incest required for evolution, only creationism...

(I suppose BADecker would argue the first 2 amoeba were incestual, but amoeba reproduce asexually, so he'd be wrong as usual)

LOL.

It would take only few generations to create genetic problems.  Look at Mennonite and Amish communities, in less than 300 years they developed genetic diseases that doctors cannot even name.  And they are not completely isolated. (and are highly religious people who believe in God the creator).

The incest as described in the Bible would end in three or four generations.

[eon89]

I mean, can you imagine having sex with your own mother? And have a child? And ask your mother to take care of your child because you want to drink a beer and her sending you to your room?

Do these sentences sound funny? Good. Because they were meant to.

[BADecker]

(usual nonsense)

Why are you even here?  Haven't you read the bible?

Here, let me help you:

You shall not go about as a talebearer among your people

Then the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, “Again, you shall say to the children of Israel: ‘Whoever of the children of Israel, or of the strangers who dwell in Israel, who gives any of his descendants to Molech, he shall surely be put to death.’”

Ignore the vowels in the name Moloch... Hebrew does not have vowels, they are arbitrarily(?) added during transliteration into English... the 3 letters used for Moloch are MLK (hebrew מלך, literally 'king')

“If there is found among you, within any of your gates which the Lord your God gives you, a man or a woman who has been wicked in the sight of the Lord your God, in transgressing His covenant, who has gone and served other gods and worshiped them, either the sun or moon or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded, and it is told you, and you hear of it, then you shall inquire diligently. And if it is indeed true and certain that such an abomination has been committed in Israel, then you shall bring out to your gates that man or woman who has committed that wicked thing, and shall stone to death that man or woman with stones. Whoever is deserving of death shall be put to death on the testimony of two or three witnesses; he shall not be put to death on the testimony of one witness. The hands of the witnesses shall be the first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hands of all the people. So you shall put away the evil from among you.

“If your brother, the son of your mother, your son or your daughter, the wife of your bosom, or your friend who is as your own soul, secretly entices you, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods,’ which you have not known, neither you nor your fathers, of the gods of the people which are all around you, near to you or far off from you, from one end of the earth to the other end of the earth, you shall not consent to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him or conceal him; but you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people. And you shall stone him with stones until he dies, because he sought to entice you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. So all Israel shall hear and fear, and not again do such wickedness as this among you.

Less talking, more stoning please... God commanded you to get me stoned!

Everything you talk about were rules for ancient Israel. Even Jesus said that nothing would change until Heaven and Earth would pass away. Because of this, anybody who adheres to ancient Israel laws and rules, must obey them.

[BADecker]

Behind every creation, there is a creator, this is common sense and logical and doesn't consume too many brain cells to work out whether God exists or not. Human itself is a proof that God exists.

Actually, this is not common sense...

Who says everything requires a creator?  Where is your evidence of such?

Humans are not created, humans are born... as a direct result of your parents having sex... God had nothing to do with it... He mostly didn't even watch them having sex... mostly...

"Humans are not created, humans are born... as a direct result of your parents having sex..." parents who were born as a direct result of their parents having sex... who were born as a direct result of their parents having sex... who were born as a direct result of their parents having sex... who were born as a direct result of their parents having sex... who were born as a direct result of their parents having sex... etc., etc. ... all the way back to when?

Oh yes. It's called cause and effect. All the way back to the time that God made the first two parents.

We see nothing other than this. We might guess that something called evolution made life out of the inanimate. We might have a few indicators that can be stretched to be interpreted as something called evolution making life out of the inanimate. But the thing that we ABSOLUTELY DO SEE is cause and effect all the way back to the Great First Cause.

You do realize the staggering amount of incest needed to create a race from 2 people. Theoretically speaking. Because if it were needed to repopulate the earth again it would be needed something like 300.00 people in order to avoid the terrible genetic inbred consequences that would result otherwise.

Now you are starting to understand devolution in humankind.   

[eon89]

And since we don't live in ancient times (or Israel), we're safe.

[BADecker]

You do realize the staggering amount of incest needed to create a race from 2 people. Theoretically speaking. Because if it were needed to repopulate the earth again it would be needed something like 300.00 people in order to avoid the terrible genetic inbred consequences that would result otherwise.

Which is evidence against the creation story... multiple generations of incest is detrimental to the gene pool... take a look at the Egyptian Pharaohs for a perfect example

The theory of evolution does not start with 2 people... it is the continuous progression of small adaptations in a gene pool of a species, that over time add up to large changes... it does not start with 2 people, but a group/herd of people/animals... no incest required for evolution, only creationism...

(I suppose BADecker would argue the first 2 amoeba were incestual, but amoeba reproduce asexually, so he'd be wrong as usual)

Of course, you will simply ignore the fact of devolution in humankind.

[Moloch]

You do realize the staggering amount of incest needed to create a race from 2 people. Theoretically speaking. Because if it were needed to repopulate the earth again it would be needed something like 300.00 people in order to avoid the terrible genetic inbred consequences that would result otherwise.

Which is evidence against the creation story... multiple generations of incest is detrimental to the gene pool... take a look at the Egyptian Pharaohs for a perfect example

The theory of evolution does not start with 2 people... it is the continuous progression of small adaptations in a gene pool of a species, that over time add up to large changes... it does not start with 2 people, but a group/herd of people/animals... no incest required for evolution, only creationism...

(I suppose BADecker would argue the first 2 amoeba were incestual, but amoeba reproduce asexually, so he'd be wrong as usual)

Of course, you will simply ignore the fact of devolution in humankind.

The crazy notions that you claim as fact are quite amusing... Keep going, I'll get some popcorn

[eon89]

You do realize the staggering amount of incest needed to create a race from 2 people. Theoretically speaking. Because if it were needed to repopulate the earth again it would be needed something like 300.00 people in order to avoid the terrible genetic inbred consequences that would result otherwise.

Which is evidence against the creation story... multiple generations of incest is detrimental to the gene pool... take a look at the Egyptian Pharaohs for a perfect example

The theory of evolution does not start with 2 people... it is the continuous progression of small adaptations in a gene pool of a species, that over time add up to large changes... it does not start with 2 people, but a group/herd of people/animals... no incest required for evolution, only creationism...

(I suppose BADecker would argue the first 2 amoeba were incestual, but amoeba reproduce asexually, so he'd be wrong as usual)

Of course, you will simply ignore the fact of devolution in humankind.

So since Adam and Eve started having sex, humankind started to "devolve"?

[BADecker]

Humans have advanced through the many years, landed on the moon, made test-tube babies, carried out heart transplants, things that wouldn't be even dreamed of in the past, yet they are limited, no scientist today has justified the existence of man and how the planet/earth has come into existence. It means God only created Earth and then human.

Not only this but, humans have declined in humanitarian qualities. How do we know? The way that many of the advancements have been made is to steal other peoples' prosperity by stealing their property through taxation and other methods... methods used to do stupid things like landing on the moon, making test-tube babies, carrying out heart transplants when it would be a whole lot more beneficial to heal the heart, and a whole lot of other stupid things that wouldn't have been dreamed of in the past.

Meanwhile, the people who have had their property stolen, live in tent cities and poverty, and their plight is barely reported on by the media.

The so-called advancement of mankind is disgusting when you look at the destruction some people do to other people just to advance themselves.

 

The moon landing is stupid? Going from earth to the Moon itself, one of greatest feats humanity has ever made? A testament to our spirit? Heart transplants? Giving people the chance to live some more? Or people who can't have children the opportunity to do so?

And so that you'll not comment: I agree with the taxation part. I'm not against you just because we're carrying a polemic here about some other topic.

Yet it is not a great feat in that it helped to bring poverty to Americans an people of many other nations. How did it do this? NASA is based on loans from banks. Banks operate through the debt-money Ponzi scheme. Ponzi's always screw the people at the bottom of the Ponzi.

[BADecker]

You do realize the staggering amount of incest needed to create a race from 2 people. Theoretically speaking. Because if it were needed to repopulate the earth again it would be needed something like 300.00 people in order to avoid the terrible genetic inbred consequences that would result otherwise.

Which is evidence against the creation story...

The theory of evolution does not start with 2 people... it is the continuous progression of small adaptations in a gene pool of a species, that over time add up to large changes... it does not start with 2 people, but a group/herd of people/animals... no incest required for evolution, only creationism...

(I suppose BADecker would argue the first 2 amoeba were incestual, but amoeba reproduce asexually, so he'd be wrong as usual)

LOL.

It would take only few generations to create genetic problems.  Look at Mennonite and Amish communities, in less than 300 years they developed genetic diseases that doctors cannot even name.  And they are not completely isolated. (and are highly religious people who believe in God the creator).

The incest as described in the Bible would end in three or four generations.

You think this way because you don't realize the amount of human devolution that has taken place over a mere 6,000 years.

[BADecker]

And since we don't live in ancient times (or Israel), we're safe.

Safe? More devolved than ever.   

[eon89]

Humans have advanced through the many years, landed on the moon, made test-tube babies, carried out heart transplants, things that wouldn't be even dreamed of in the past, yet they are limited, no scientist today has justified the existence of man and how the planet/earth has come into existence. It means God only created Earth and then human.

Not only this but, humans have declined in humanitarian qualities. How do we know? The way that many of the advancements have been made is to steal other peoples' prosperity by stealing their property through taxation and other methods... methods used to do stupid things like landing on the moon, making test-tube babies, carrying out heart transplants when it would be a whole lot more beneficial to heal the heart, and a whole lot of other stupid things that wouldn't have been dreamed of in the past.

Meanwhile, the people who have had their property stolen, live in tent cities and poverty, and their plight is barely reported on by the media.

The so-called advancement of mankind is disgusting when you look at the destruction some people do to other people just to advance themselves.

 

The moon landing is stupid? Going from earth to the Moon itself, one of greatest feats humanity has ever made? A testament to our spirit? Heart transplants? Giving people the chance to live some more? Or people who can't have children the opportunity to do so?

And so that you'll not comment: I agree with the taxation part. I'm not against you just because we're carrying a polemic here about some other topic.

Yet it is not a great feat in that it helped to bring poverty to Americans an people of many other nations. How did it do this? NASA is based on loans from banks. Banks operate through the debt-money Ponzi scheme. Ponzi's always screw the people at the bottom of the Ponzi.

Still, somehow we managed to get past the dome that covers this "flat" world and went beyond it.

[eon89]

And since we don't live in ancient times (or Israel), we're safe.

Safe? More devolved than ever.   

We're "devolved" because we don't follow ancient rules that don't apply to the modern world? Hmm...

[BADecker]

You do realize the staggering amount of incest needed to create a race from 2 people. Theoretically speaking. Because if it were needed to repopulate the earth again it would be needed something like 300.00 people in order to avoid the terrible genetic inbred consequences that would result otherwise.

Which is evidence against the creation story... multiple generations of incest is detrimental to the gene pool... take a look at the Egyptian Pharaohs for a perfect example

The theory of evolution does not start with 2 people... it is the continuous progression of small adaptations in a gene pool of a species, that over time add up to large changes... it does not start with 2 people, but a group/herd of people/animals... no incest required for evolution, only creationism...

(I suppose BADecker would argue the first 2 amoeba were incestual, but amoeba reproduce asexually, so he'd be wrong as usual)

Of course, you will simply ignore the fact of devolution in humankind.

The crazy notions that you claim as fact are quite amusing... Keep going, I'll get some popcorn

Go get some popcorn1. You two are like devolved peas in a devolved pod.

[af_newbie]

You do realize the staggering amount of incest needed to create a race from 2 people. Theoretically speaking. Because if it were needed to repopulate the earth again it would be needed something like 300.00 people in order to avoid the terrible genetic inbred consequences that would result otherwise.

Which is evidence against the creation story...

The theory of evolution does not start with 2 people... it is the continuous progression of small adaptations in a gene pool of a species, that over time add up to large changes... it does not start with 2 people, but a group/herd of people/animals... no incest required for evolution, only creationism...

(I suppose BADecker would argue the first 2 amoeba were incestual, but amoeba reproduce asexually, so he'd be wrong as usual)

LOL.

It would take only few generations to create genetic problems.  Look at Mennonite and Amish communities, in less than 300 years they developed genetic diseases that doctors cannot even name.  And they are not completely isolated. (and are highly religious people who believe in God the creator).

The incest as described in the Bible would end in three or four generations.

You think this way because you don't realize the amount of human devolution that has taken place over a mere 6,000 years.

as evidenced by? 

[BADecker]

You do realize the staggering amount of incest needed to create a race from 2 people. Theoretically speaking. Because if it were needed to repopulate the earth again it would be needed something like 300.00 people in order to avoid the terrible genetic inbred consequences that would result otherwise.

Which is evidence against the creation story... multiple generations of incest is detrimental to the gene pool... take a look at the Egyptian Pharaohs for a perfect example

The theory of evolution does not start with 2 people... it is the continuous progression of small adaptations in a gene pool of a species, that over time add up to large changes... it does not start with 2 people, but a group/herd of people/animals... no incest required for evolution, only creationism...

(I suppose BADecker would argue the first 2 amoeba were incestual, but amoeba reproduce asexually, so he'd be wrong as usual)

Of course, you will simply ignore the fact of devolution in humankind.

So since Adam and Eve started having sex, humankind started to "devolve"?

Not necessarily. They may have had sex before the fall. It was at/after the fall that humankind started to devolve.

[eon89]

You do realize the staggering amount of incest needed to create a race from 2 people. Theoretically speaking. Because if it were needed to repopulate the earth again it would be needed something like 300.00 people in order to avoid the terrible genetic inbred consequences that would result otherwise.

Which is evidence against the creation story... multiple generations of incest is detrimental to the gene pool... take a look at the Egyptian Pharaohs for a perfect example

The theory of evolution does not start with 2 people... it is the continuous progression of small adaptations in a gene pool of a species, that over time add up to large changes... it does not start with 2 people, but a group/herd of people/animals... no incest required for evolution, only creationism...

(I suppose BADecker would argue the first 2 amoeba were incestual, but amoeba reproduce asexually, so he'd be wrong as usual)

Of course, you will simply ignore the fact of devolution in humankind.

The crazy notions that you claim as fact are quite amusing... Keep going, I'll get some popcorn

Go get some popcorn1. You two are like devolved peas in a devolved pod.

Sometimes, just like this time, I feel the need to start a new thread just to point out how silly you are. So as not to sully this thread, you understand.

[BADecker]

Humans have advanced through the many years, landed on the moon, made test-tube babies, carried out heart transplants, things that wouldn't be even dreamed of in the past, yet they are limited, no scientist today has justified the existence of man and how the planet/earth has come into existence. It means God only created Earth and then human.

Not only this but, humans have declined in humanitarian qualities. How do we know? The way that many of the advancements have been made is to steal other peoples' prosperity by stealing their property through taxation and other methods... methods used to do stupid things like landing on the moon, making test-tube babies, carrying out heart transplants when it would be a whole lot more beneficial to heal the heart, and a whole lot of other stupid things that wouldn't have been dreamed of in the past.

Meanwhile, the people who have had their property stolen, live in tent cities and poverty, and their plight is barely reported on by the media.

The so-called advancement of mankind is disgusting when you look at the destruction some people do to other people just to advance themselves.

 

The moon landing is stupid? Going from earth to the Moon itself, one of greatest feats humanity has ever made? A testament to our spirit? Heart transplants? Giving people the chance to live some more? Or people who can't have children the opportunity to do so?

And so that you'll not comment: I agree with the taxation part. I'm not against you just because we're carrying a polemic here about some other topic.

Yet it is not a great feat in that it helped to bring poverty to Americans an people of many other nations. How did it do this? NASA is based on loans from banks. Banks operate through the debt-money Ponzi scheme. Ponzi's always screw the people at the bottom of the Ponzi.

Still, somehow we managed to get past the dome that covers this "flat" world and went beyond it.

Why are you trying to prove you are more devolved than you are?   

[eon89]

You do realize the staggering amount of incest needed to create a race from 2 people. Theoretically speaking. Because if it were needed to repopulate the earth again it would be needed something like 300.00 people in order to avoid the terrible genetic inbred consequences that would result otherwise.

Which is evidence against the creation story... multiple generations of incest is detrimental to the gene pool... take a look at the Egyptian Pharaohs for a perfect example

The theory of evolution does not start with 2 people... it is the continuous progression of small adaptations in a gene pool of a species, that over time add up to large changes... it does not start with 2 people, but a group/herd of people/animals... no incest required for evolution, only creationism...

(I suppose BADecker would argue the first 2 amoeba were incestual, but amoeba reproduce asexually, so he'd be wrong as usual)

Of course, you will simply ignore the fact of devolution in humankind.

So since Adam and Eve started having sex, humankind started to "devolve"?

Not necessarily. They may have had sex before the fall. It was at/after the fall that humankind started to devolve.

I'm sorry, I meant to say procreate by incest.