The Ethereum Paradox

[tokeweed]

^ Ethereum starts breaking out and this Roach guy starts attacking it.  Does not compute...  Unless he's jealous and envious cos he got rammed hard in the backside by the Larimers instead of getting rich which he was promised.

Move on Roach.  It's over.

[ProfessionalGoogler]

^ Ethereum starts breaking out and this Roach guy starts attacking it.  Does not compute...  Unless he's jealous and envious cos he got rammed hard in the backside by the Larimers instead of getting rich which he was promised.

Move on Roach.  It's over.

He reminds me of the people who doubted BTC. 

[r0ach]

It's almost comical.  One single entity pads the order book making the buy side go from 7000 to 12,000 BTC in 1 second hoping it will attract momentum traders he can dump on as he slowly manipulates it upwards.  He knows full well that there will be a cataclysmic Eth dump from the DAO on May 28.  $130 million in funds that were locked up, denominated in Ethereum to invest in the DAO, which people now know the DAO is an awful investment:

https://steemit.com/crypto-news/@dan/is-the-dao-going-to-be-doa

Right at the same time the DAO dumps, and Eth by proxy since the DAO is denominated in Eth, the BTC triangle converges upward within the same day.  So the only question is, since the single entity manipulating Eth knows it's going to be dump city come May 28th, and knows everyone else knows this, when does he decide to pull the rug out from under you?  Will he wait a few days, or could it come any second?

[ProfessionalGoogler]

It's almost comical.  One single entity pads the order book making the buy side go from 7000 to 12,000 BTC in 1 second hoping it will attract momentum traders he can dump on as he slowly manipulates it upwards.  He knows full well that there will be a cataclysmic Eth dump from the DAO on May 28.  $130 million in funds that were locked up, denominated in Ethereum to invest in the DAO, which people now know the DAO is an awful investment:

https://steemit.com/crypto-news/@dan/is-the-dao-going-to-be-doa

Right at the same time the DAO dumps, and Eth by proxy since the DAO is denominated in Eth, the BTC triangle converges upward within the same day.  So the only question is, since the single entity manipulating Eth knows it's going to be dump city come May 28th, and knows everyone else knows this, when does he decide to pull the rug out from under you?  Will he wait a few days, or could it come any second?

No fucking shit Eth would go down with people cashing out.

Shut the fuck up you moron.

[YarkoL]

This used to be an interesting technical discussion.

[ProfessionalGoogler]

This used to be an interesting technical discussion.

Not when you have r0ach and Spoetnik FUDing up the place.

[r0ach]

Not when you have r0ach and Spoetnik FUDing up the place.

Yea, calling a scam a scam is "fud" right?  Even Goldman Sachs is like "wow this thing is one horrible financial instrument", and their usual investments are things like...mortgage backed securities haha.

[tokeweed]

Not when you have r0ach and Spoetnik FUDing up the place.

Yea, calling a scam a scam is "fud" right?  Even Goldman Sachs is like "wow this thing is one horrible financial instrument", and their usual investments are things like...mortgage backed securities haha.

Pffft..  ETH is still breaking out whether you like it or not.  That's what the market is doing, all your envy, jealousy and hate will have no positive impact on yourselves.  Just trade what seems to be a start of another trend and be happy win or lose.

[tokeweed]

And 'Fail Community'?  Is that the guy from FailCoin?  LOL!

[stoat]

Tptb was paid to make this thread by smooth and the monero marketing gang.

2.5 btc i heard.

Some seriously sleazy acts are perpetrated round here

[generalizethis]

Tptb was paid to make this thread by smooth and the monero marketing gang.

2.5 btc i heard.

Some seriously sleazy acts are perpetrated round here

What an awful post. You should be ashamed

Doesn't come unexpected to be honest but still quite a SHOCKER

I like smooth. He has been very fair with me and helped me also. He even paid/donated  a few BTC one time to me.

´smooth´ is the anonymous front face and imperialist of the controversial Monero Club.

´AnonyMint/TPTB_need_war´ is an independent Cryptopioneer who is on the forefront of crypto auditing.


Evidently, smooth has deliberately bribed AnonyMint/TPTB_need_war in order to silence him on Monero's severe flaws.

LOL no. We offered him a bounty for identifying weaknesses in Monero in 2014*, which I paid him and he has written about on the forum many times since. Nothing has been kept secret.

Nice FUD though.

* This was in connection with the alleged coin-stealing vulnerability in the crypto BCX claimed to have, and which TPTB claimed to have found, but which turned out to be nonexistant FUD. What TPTB found had nothing to do with BCX but was still a valid contribution so I paid him anyway.

Yes smooth paid me out of his own pocket. I thought I had an agreement with Monero but I guess there isn't really any official "Monero" so it wasn't quite clear who would judge if I deserved any bounty. It was a mess.

And smooth out of the kindness of his own heart, paid me afair 2.5 BTC.

The BCX incident is difficult to explain. I thought I was helping and as smooth says I did find one insight, but in another way I unwittingly perhaps helped BCX short Monero or whatever he did. I am not really even clear what happened.

Any way smooth never bribed me. Smooth knows he doesn't own me. Lol. I flip him middle finger in PMs sometimes (rarely and almost always about the community he is managing). Seriously though, smooth is an ethical person.

Your issue with smooth is not his ethics. The issue is smooth believes in community very much. I just want to point out to smooth that a community of Linux developers is not the same animal as a community of gamblers who are not communing about coding.

Smooth and I would be happy campers in a forum of like-minded programmers talking tech shop.

My guess is Smooth seems to believe in enforcing ethics and creating a community for Monero. I think this is where the boundaries get blurred. It is not that smooth is incorrect in his logic. But there are different perspectives and feelings in play. And different vested interests and all valid from their own right. I think perhaps we just need to admit the altcoin arena is a Wild West that doesnt want a Sheriff.

Any way, he is free to do it his way. Smooth has very little influence over me. He has influence over me in terms of explaining realities in the altcoin scene that I wasn't focused on. But I also work through the logic on my own and eventually perhaps come to a different perspective over time.

[stoat]

Tptb was paid to make this thread by smooth and the monero marketing gang.

2.5 btc i heard.

Some seriously sleazy acts are perpetrated round here

What an awful post. You should be ashamed

Doesn't come unexpected to be honest but still quite a SHOCKER

I like smooth. He has been very fair with me and helped me also. He even paid/donated  a few BTC one time to me.

´smooth´ is the anonymous front face and imperialist of the controversial Monero Club.

´AnonyMint/TPTB_need_war´ is an independent Cryptopioneer who is on the forefront of crypto auditing.


Evidently, smooth has deliberately bribed AnonyMint/TPTB_need_war in order to silence him on Monero's severe flaws.

LOL no. We offered him a bounty for identifying weaknesses in Monero in 2014*, which I paid him and he has written about on the forum many times since. Nothing has been kept secret.

Nice FUD though.

* This was in connection with the alleged coin-stealing vulnerability in the crypto BCX claimed to have, and which TPTB claimed to have found, but which turned out to be nonexistant FUD. What TPTB found had nothing to do with BCX but was still a valid contribution so I paid him anyway.

Yes smooth paid me out of his own pocket. I thought I had an agreement with Monero but I guess there isn't really any official "Monero" so it wasn't quite clear who would judge if I deserved any bounty. It was a mess.

And smooth out of the kindness of his own heart, paid me afair 2.5 BTC.

The BCX incident is difficult to explain. I thought I was helping and as smooth says I did find one insight, but in another way I unwittingly perhaps helped BCX short Monero or whatever he did. I am not really even clear what happened.

Any way smooth never bribed me. Smooth knows he doesn't own me. Lol. I flip him middle finger in PMs sometimes (rarely and almost always about the community he is managing). Seriously though, smooth is an ethical person.[/b]

Your issue with smooth is not his ethics. The issue is smooth believes in community very much. I just want to point out to smooth that a community of Linux developers is not the same animal as a community of gamblers who are not communing about coding.

Smooth and I would be happy campers in a forum of like-minded programmers talking tech shop.

My guess is Smooth seems to believe in enforcing ethics and creating a community for Monero. I think this is where the boundaries get blurred. It is not that smooth is incorrect in his logic. But there are different perspectives and feelings in play. And different vested interests and all valid from their own right. I think perhaps we just need to admit the altcoin arena is a Wild West that doesnt want a Sheriff.

Any way, he is free to do it his way. Smooth has very little influence over me. He has influence over me in terms of explaining realities in the altcoin scene that I wasn't focused on. But I also work through the logic on my own and eventually perhaps come to a different perspective over time.

Yes the bribing, conniving sleazy monero community

[tokeweed]

QFT!  Everyone read.

^ Don't listen to that Roach guy.  He's just a sore whining BTS supporter, who sold his stake at a loss.  Not to mention blindly following the Larimers and giving them away his BTS soul for the sake of Bitshares.   Where is Bitshares headed now?  Bitshares has stagnated while Ethereum is flourishing.  And now comes in here and whines and bitches and tells people to stay away from Ethereum?  He should have stayed away from Bitshares and the Larimers.  Instead we see a guy who sucks at trading whining like a little girl.  Haha.

It's always the biggest Larimer supporters who become their greatest critics.

Haha.  DE check out what Roach said...

For the 100th time, this thread is about Eth and the DAO.  When you seem this desperate to change the subject away from what the thread is about, something is wrong.  I have absolutely nothing to do with Bitshares.  The only involvement I've ever had is buying some at 1400 satoshi before the price went to 3500 satoshi. The only thing I own is BTC.  I, and everyone else in this thread, has zero interest in Bitshares.  Now back to the subject of the DAO and Eth.

WHAT A BIG F**KING LIAR!

Now he claims to have made money by trading BTS when in fact he is sore as sh*t because he and his community got conned by the Larimers.  Jeeezzusss.  Lying sack of sh*t.

I TRIED TO TELL 'EM!  YOU KNOW I TRIED TO TELL 'EM!  IF I SAID IT ONCE, I SAID IT A THOUSAND TIMES!

It's always the biggest Larimer supporters who become their greatest critics.

The Eth shills do nothing but flat out lie to try and con people out of money.  The best part is, he claims I'm a "bts supporter", except in 1st page of this thread, you can easily see my comment below.

This is exactly what I said days ago, that Bitshares already proved the DAO is a horrible idea lol.

Srsly, who are you trying to fool?  Anybody can look back at your post history and tell that you were the NUMERO UNO Bitshares shill hyping the Larimer's / Chicom's scam.  You're right that Bitshares was a "horrible idea".  Anyone with a functioning brain knew that back when you were promoting it.  It was so obvious, you'd have to be brain dead not to realize the con the Larimer Gang was pulling on everyone.  Heck, they even tried to sell their Testnet coins, and Little Larimer Jr wrote up a blog post trying to convince their sheeple why it was a good idea to buy them.  The only reason you supported the Larimers back then was because you were trying to make money at the expense of helping the Larimers perpetrate their scam on the innocent.  You are such a lying sellout it isn't even funny.  It serves you right that the Larimers robbed you blind.  The Larimers are the sleaziest people to have slithered through this forum.  They are some of the biggest liars, cheaters, and thieves that I've seen in a long time.  You're right up their with them in my opinion for supporting them when you obviously knew what they were doing was wrong and against the ideology of free, decentralized crypto.

How am I an "Eth shill"?  The only thing I support right now is the Synereo social network and tech stack, because I believe in free speech.  Just because Synereo and Ethereum are working together on blockchain tech doesn't make me an "Eth shill".  You're the one who tried to con people out of money when you were in cahoots with the Larimer Gang and the Chicoms.

[r0ach]

Wow, he's really spamming that everywhere thinking it makes me "look bad" when my quote clearly says Bitshares proves the idea of a DAO is a bad idea because it worked like shit in Bitshares.  I used to argue with that "2kool4skewel/decentralizeEconomics" guy about which proof of stake system was better between NXT or Bitshares.  Once you're able to put together the big picture of how all the elements come together between technicals and economics, it turns out both are useless just like all proof of stake systems.  This is why Nick Szabo says he wishes Eth would stay on PoW.

Many people have made the mistake of thinking proof of stake had some type of merit, whether it's Gavin Andresen, Vitalik, me, whoever.  Although Eth is stuck between a rock and a hard place because they held an IPO, so now their coin will automatically be considered a failure if they stay on PoW and leak mined coins forever.

[tokeweed]

Wow, he's really spamming that everywhere thinking it makes me "look bad" when my quote clearly says Bitshares proves the idea of a DAO is a bad idea because it worked like shit in Bitshares.  I used to argue with that "2kool4skewel/decentralizeEconomics" guy about which proof of stake system was better between NXT or Bitshares.  Once you're able to put together the big picture of how all the elements come together between technicals and economics, it turns out both are useless just like all proof of stake systems.  This is why Nick Szabo says he wishes Eth would stay on PoW.

Many people have made the mistake of thinking proof of stake had some type of merit, whether it's Gavin Andresen, Vitalik, me, whoever.  Although Eth is stuck between a rock and a hard place because they held an IPO, so now their coin will automatically be considered a failure if they stay on PoW and leak mined coins forever.

Thinking too highly of yourself now, ain't cha?

You don't deserve to be with those great men, even in a forum posting yourself beside their names...  You're nothing but a liar, a whiner and the Larimers' b*tch.

Btw...  How's that BTS 'moon landing' going?

[r0ach]

You're nothing but a liar, a whiner and the Larimers' b*tch.

You're getting desperate now to try and make this scamcoin go up when you spam the same thing over and over in every thread.  "Larimer's Bitch" LOL.  The only interaction I have with the Larimer's is me constantly trying to get them to change their coin because it's not anti-fragile enough amongst a million other issues.  Proof of stake just doesn't work in the long run though, so you can now get back on topic to the subject of this thread instead of trying to constantly divert attention away from Ethereum.

[freshman777]

Proof of stake just doesn't work in the long run

Define long run.
POW stopped working for Bitcoin years ago. It doesn't represent the one cpu = one vote goal since ages. it kinda works, but so do paypal and visa.

Nope, I still don't own Eth

[tokeweed]

You're nothing but a liar, a whiner and the Larimers' b*tch.

You're getting desperate now to try and make this scamcoin go up when you spam the same thing over and over in every thread.  "Larimer's Bitch" LOL.  The only interaction I have with the Larimer's is me constantly trying to get them to change their coin because it's not anti-fragile enough amongst a million other issues.  Proof of stake just doesn't work in the long run though, so you can now get back on topic to the subject of this thread instead of trying to constantly divert attention away from Ethereum.

Desperate, me???  ETH is going up right now despite of what is being said in this forum.  You think these boards affect the price of ETH?  With all those millions in volume?  Wow...  Didn't know you were that dumb.

You're the desperate one.  You think all your whining has some bearing on ETH's price.  LOL.

How's that BTS 'moon landing'?  Haha.

[r0ach]

Eth scammers flooding the forum with spam topics as usual trying to find someone to dump on:

[oldisoft]

You're nothing but a liar, a whiner and the Larimers' b*tch.

You're getting desperate now to try and make this scamcoin go up when you spam the same thing over and over in every thread.  "Larimer's Bitch" LOL.  The only interaction I have with the Larimer's is me constantly trying to get them to change their coin because it's not anti-fragile enough amongst a million other issues.  Proof of stake just doesn't work in the long run though, so you can now get back on topic to the subject of this thread instead of trying to constantly divert attention away from Ethereum.

Desperate, me???  ETH is going up right now despite of what is being said in this forum.  You think these boards affect the price of ETH?  With all those millions in volume?  Wow...  Didn't know you were that dumb.

You're the desperate one.  You think all your whining has some bearing on ETH's price.  LOL.

How's that BTS 'moon landing'?  Haha.

Agree with You!
r0ach hopes that his whining will change the ETH price, LOL, but from his topics just smelling like from shit. He is boring loser and sockpuppet of cryptohunter.

Cheers