WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform.

[oneyesoneno]

Bitcoin is the money, Waves is the platform.
https://blog.wavesplatform.com/we-re-starting-a-new-cryptocurrency-and-we-don-t-want-it-to-be-used-as-currency-1de1bec402c0#.llw4ag6ex

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What do we choose? We choose the US dollar, EUR, CNY, and Bitcoin! No one is his right mind can think that fiat currencies will become extinct in the near future. They will turn into something else, they will live on blockchains, become more transparent

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We need to provide an open blockchain that any licensed payment institution could use, for payments and settlement, implementing their KYC/AML policies and not caring about infrastructure costs, since infrastructure is outsourced to a decentralized network. All a payment system or bank should have to do is implement a simple API and start conducting its operations on the blockchain, tapping into new markets, reducing costs, and becoming more transparent

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Our killer feature is the ability to trade any token against another token on the blockchain (asset-to-asset). It opens up new dimensions for doing business on blockchains, effectively replicating traditional markets and making Bitcoin trading decentralized.

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[NeuroticFish]

Request

If somebody is skilled with photo editing and has some free time, maybe it's nice to do a small task:
Get a good WAVES image or icon (this may be a good option: http://wavesexplorer.com/favicon.ico ); convert it to follow this rule To be accepted, uploaded files must return precisely this string from the /usr/bin/file command: "PNG image data, 96 x 96, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced". The coin should be centered horizontaly and vertically and fill the space, with transparency in the background. and upload it here: http://dcw.phauna.org:8098/detail/waves

Background info:
This would put the WAVES icon to the price widget (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=158777.0 ; http://dcw.phauna.org:8098/ ), making WAVES look better, not just like an anon coin.


Edit: for clarification, I am not affiliated neither with WAVES team, neither with the creator of the widget, but I think that somebody could do this only to make things nicer.
Edit2: I see that already 2 of you guys have sent images for approval. So the task is filled. WAVES community is a nice (and quick!) one, I am impressed. Thank you!

[AmsterdamPimp]

On Waves' DEX instant trading will be possible like on Poloniex. At NXT, BTS, SYS you have to wait up to a minute for trade confirmation.

I think the reason why the centralized crypto exchanges do not hurry to list Waves because there is a conflict of interest between the two. They don't want to support a technology which makes them obsolete.

NXT, BTS, SYS, they have the same idea as waves.

I still don't get what makes WAVES better. I get there are some small changes but are they enough to replace exchanges such as polo and bitrex

It sound sgood but will people really use it? I am not sure they will.

why not, if they can earn money they will use it.

Yeah I am not so sure they will trust sascha or waves. It is interesting to think not only can he raise so many btc but he can also basically print of free money in the forms of token. Bravo

[Grahnite]

On Waves' DEX instant trading will be possible like on Poloniex. At NXT, BTS, SYS you have to wait up to a minute for trade confirmation.

I think the reason why the centralized crypto exchanges do not hurry to list Waves because there is a conflict of interest between the two. They don't want to support a technology which makes them obsolete.

NXT, BTS, SYS, they have the same idea as waves.

I still don't get what makes WAVES better. I get there are some small changes but are they enough to replace exchanges such as polo and bitrex

It sound sgood but will people really use it? I am not sure they will.

why not, if they can earn money they will use it.

Yeah I am not so sure they will trust sascha or waves. It is interesting to think not only can he raise so many btc but he can also basically print of free money in the forms of token. Bravo

Why did the previous DEX's not work? I would guess ease-of-use was lacking. Poloniex is easy and understandable for people to use. If the WAVES DEX cannot match the ease of use (and also contain a Troll Box)< I cannot see anybody using the WEAVES DEX rather than Polo.

So WAVES team - please ensure the WAVES DEX has a great interface that is easy to use, looks great, and has a Troll-box.

[Mr.Ease]

When is the estimated timeline for the waves platform to be functional?

Not fully completed as that will take years, but atleast functional for token creation, and exchanges?

[DanDan]

When is the estimated timeline for the waves platform to be functional?

Not fully completed as that will take years, but atleast functional for token creation, and exchanges?

Facepalm at the though of more timelines being missed and the beauty that will cover the thread. Best of just saying it will be done sometime in the future and not giving a date.

[AmsterdamPimp]

On Waves' DEX instant trading will be possible like on Poloniex. At NXT, BTS, SYS you have to wait up to a minute for trade confirmation.

I think the reason why the centralized crypto exchanges do not hurry to list Waves because there is a conflict of interest between the two. They don't want to support a technology which makes them obsolete.

NXT, BTS, SYS, they have the same idea as waves.

I still don't get what makes WAVES better. I get there are some small changes but are they enough to replace exchanges such as polo and bitrex

It sound sgood but will people really use it? I am not sure they will.

why not, if they can earn money they will use it.

Yeah I am not so sure they will trust sascha or waves. It is interesting to think not only can he raise so many btc but he can also basically print of free money in the forms of token. Bravo

Why did the previous DEX's not work? I would guess ease-of-use was lacking. Poloniex is easy and understandable for people to use. If the WAVES DEX cannot match the ease of use (and also contain a Troll Box)< I cannot see anybody using the WEAVES DEX rather than Polo.

So WAVES team - please ensure the WAVES DEX has a great interface that is easy to use, looks great, and has a Troll-box.

People scream they don't like centralized but they do and our attached to it. So you don't mind he has a license to print free money?

[a29654]

On Waves' DEX instant trading will be possible like on Poloniex. At NXT, BTS, SYS you have to wait up to a minute for trade confirmation.

I think the reason why the centralized crypto exchanges do not hurry to list Waves because there is a conflict of interest between the two. They don't want to support a technology which makes them obsolete.

NXT, BTS, SYS, they have the same idea as waves.

I still don't get what makes WAVES better. I get there are some small changes but are they enough to replace exchanges such as polo and bitrex

It sound sgood but will people really use it? I am not sure they will.

why not, if they can earn money they will use it.

Yeah I am not so sure they will trust sascha or waves. It is interesting to think not only can he raise so many btc but he can also basically print of free money in the forms of token. Bravo

Why did the previous DEX's not work? I would guess ease-of-use was lacking. Poloniex is easy and understandable for people to use. If the WAVES DEX cannot match the ease of use (and also contain a Troll Box)< I cannot see anybody using the WEAVES DEX rather than Polo.

So WAVES team - please ensure the WAVES DEX has a great interface that is easy to use, looks great, and has a Troll-box.

People scream they don't like centralized but they do and our attached to it. So you don't mind he has a license to print free money?

He doesn't print free money. What hole did you come out of? 

[jacaf01]

Please I will like to ask why tokens on Waves platform are yet to be listed on any centralised exchanges, Incent ICO was concluded some times ago and not yet listed but project like Darcrus was available for trade the second day after the ICO. Is there any issue with the platform or what is the reason?

[Twiggy Smile]

Please I will like to ask why tokens on Waves platform are yet to be listed on any centralised exchanges, Incent ICO was concluded some times ago and not yet listed but project like Darcrus was available for trade the second day after the ICO. Is there any issue with the platform or what is the reason?

Any exchange can add waves to their platforms (at the moment, Waves platform have open source code). Dar has used Bittrex as a platform for their ICO (the second ICO after refund)

[CrowdFunder]

Please I will like to ask why tokens on Waves platform are yet to be listed on any centralised exchanges, Incent ICO was concluded some times ago and not yet listed but project like Darcrus was available for trade the second day after the ICO. Is there any issue with the platform or what is the reason?

Any exchange can add waves to their platforms (at the moment, Waves platform have open source code). Dar has used Bittrex as a platform for their ICO (the second ICO tafter refund)

Yea yea, "any exchange can add waves on their platform". You forgot to mention why not much of those exchanges care about it.
Because Sasha has a big and dirt mouth, and his an expert are trashing whatever and then changing his opinions the next day.

We need someone with photoshop skills to create a Clown meme out of Sasha.

A greedy clown meme.

[Twiggy Smile]

WAVES Weekly No. 25

Real World Crypto 2017

This week we have a series of updates based on the developing Waves technology.
Leonid Reyzin gave the presentation ‘Improving Authenticated Dynamic Dictionaries’ at Real World Crypto 2017, in which he discusses ways to streamline the large and growing key value store associated with blockchain transactions. Using authenticated data structures allows the continued use of lower-powered devices to maintain the network, and enables greater efficiency than current approaches.

These methods will be integrated into the Waves protocol. You can read the paper at https://eprint.iacr.org/2016/994.pdf and find the code at https://github.com/input-output-hk/scrypto/tree/master/src/main/scala/scorex/crypto/authds. In the meantime, storage is being refactored and optimised, which will result in reduced blockchain size and prepare the Waves platform for different implementations coming in the near future.

With this is mind, an updated scalability roadmap for Waves will be released in due course. Aside from the above improvements of reducing proof size and speeding up verification, it will allow miners to process only the assets they want to, but validate all of them.

Readers may also be interested in the recent Real World Crypto 2017 presentation by Evan Jeffrey from Google Quantum A.I., in which he suggests that it may be as much as 10-15 years before scalable, fault-tolerant QC is working properly.

News and Dev Summary

The Waves Community Token (WCT) will be launched next week, after the first snapshot of WAVES balances ends on 15 January. This is a Waves CAT that will be distributed over the course of the year, with the intention of rewarding long-term holders of WAVES, encouraging people to keep funds off exchanges, fostering community engagement in the wider Waves ecosystem, and creating a framework for providing community-based KYC/screening of new assets.

One of the first benefits of holding WCT will be the distribution of the Byteball windfall gained from registering some of the Waves ICO funds. 35 BTC will be sent to WCT holders in the form of a WavesBTC token, which will be redeemable for BTC through gateway to be implemented in due course. This will also enable users to understand how BTC and different cryptocurrency gateways will function in the Waves ecosystem. You can find out more about WCT on the Waves blog.

Additionally:

The Waves mobile app is currently in testing.
Check out the new Waves block explorer and leave feedback!
Download the latest testnet update for DEX and help with testing.
Win 1,000 WAVES or a Waves t-shirt and laptop sticker (English translation).
ChronoBank and the Tokes Platform continue to hold their ICOs.
WWCR is back this week – stay tuned for episode #14!
Waves Nodes and Lite Client Reminders

If you would like to run a full node, please download the latest mainnet release at https://github.com/wavesplatform/Waves/releases/. Anyone can run a node, but you will need at least 10,000 WAVES to generate blocks. You can read the installation guide here.

For regular users the Lite client can be downloaded from https://wavesplatform.com. Do not download the client from other sources for security reasons. (Please be aware that there have been issues with fake github repositories, as well as fake Twitter accounts and Slack identities.) Alternatively, the standalone Chrome app will automatically update as new versions are released.

Press and Articles

A Note about "Marketing"
Waves Platform Teams With Moscow Incubator for Fintech Startup Program
Waves Community Token (Waves blog)
The Value of the Blockchain: The Medium is the Message
How to Mine Waves?

[Zubnin]

On Waves' DEX instant trading will be possible like on Poloniex. At NXT, BTS, SYS you have to wait up to a minute for trade confirmation.

I think the reason why the centralized crypto exchanges do not hurry to list Waves because there is a conflict of interest between the two. They don't want to support a technology which makes them obsolete.

NXT, BTS, SYS, they have the same idea as waves.

I still don't get what makes WAVES better. I get there are some small changes but are they enough to replace exchanges such as polo and bitrex

It sound sgood but will people really use it? I am not sure they will.

why not, if they can earn money they will use it.

Yeah I am not so sure they will trust sascha or waves. It is interesting to think not only can he raise so many btc but he can also basically print of free money in the forms of token. Bravo

Why did the previous DEX's not work? I would guess ease-of-use was lacking. Poloniex is easy and understandable for people to use. If the WAVES DEX cannot match the ease of use (and also contain a Troll Box)< I cannot see anybody using the WEAVES DEX rather than Polo.

So WAVES team - please ensure the WAVES DEX has a great interface that is easy to use, looks great, and has a Troll-box.

People scream they don't like centralized but they do and our attached to it. So you don't mind he has a license to print free money?

He doesn't print free money. What hole did you come out of? 

Well, if you think about both coinomat assets he issued on NXT platform and conveniently stopped paying dividends after lunching WAVES, promised to buy those assets back but never actually did, he is not printing them - he steals them. NXT fell 4 times, WAVES doubled, and he still has no time to take care of the assets he started in crypto with. People are selling them for nothing now. Very few actually believe he will actually do anything about that - nothing was done in 7 months.
https://www.mynxt.info/asset/7474435909229872610
What do you think about that?

[St.Stephan]

When is the estimated timeline for the waves platform to be functional?

Not fully completed as that will take years, but atleast functional for token creation, and exchanges?

Facepalm at the though of more timelines being missed and the beauty that will cover the thread. Best of just saying it will be done sometime in the future and not giving a date.

Totally agree. Actually holding "Twiggy Smile" and "Karl Karlsson" and Sasha accountable for anything at all after absconding with 30,000 BTC would be .... ummm .... reasonable?

Nahhh fuck that. This is crypto. Can we have more meaningless updates please Mr. Twiggy Smile?

[danielj314]

I think St. Stephan and CrowdFunder are the same person. They have the same writing style and sensibility. And they are always unrelentingly negative about Waves. Not just occasionally critical. Not balanced in any way. Just unrelentingly negative. I think this fellow was an ICO investor who had high hopes for a quick return and was kicked off slack early on for being critical. He has internalized that rage and become Waves top dedicated critic and troll. It is sad to see the kind of cynicism that springs up in one who feels such a sense of unrelieved victimhood.

[jahras]

I think the reason why the centralized crypto exchanges do not hurry to list Waves because there is a conflict of interest between the two. They don't want to support a technology which makes them obsolete.

I'm so glad someone else said it. I've felt that way about poloniex since day one.

LOL no, poloniex couldn't care less about dex. it's all about volume and fees to gain.
and btw nxt and bts are listed since long time and they do offer dex as feature: the conflict of interest make no sense.

Probably Polo wont list WAVES because Sasha pissed them off too many times. Was a very bad move from Sasha

But besides that, I think WAVES has a bright future and will see stellar growth in 2017.

Definitely, sasha cursed poloniex and they hate sasha. He should be a real CEO and ignores every negative thing cuz he is so rich.

having an opinion is not "cursing" and is not reason for "hate", at least among professional adults

I agree, but it is still bad that Sasha's attitude towards Polo has negatively affected all WAVES investors. But anyway, such is life...

Who really cares about polo, volume yes, was there a polo before bitcoin?

[humoongus]

Waves is one of my favourite picks for 2017. But I do not want to give any investment advices. Otherwise. it looks very promising if you take into account all the functions of their Lite client.
Does someone remembers the early days of PayPal? For long term Waves looks very similar and even much better.

I agree, WAVES looks like a VERY promising investment for 2017.

Yes for only people who believed in this project 

What about if I don't believe in the project but still hold many waves?

that can only mean that you're an idiot

[KoinMaster]

I agree, the two trolls are one and the same person. Maybe he is a payed by whales who want to accumulate as many Waves as they could.

I think St. Stephan and CrowdFunder are the same person. They have the same writing style and sensibility. And they are always unrelentingly negative about Waves. Not just occasionally critical. Not balanced in any way. Just unrelentingly negative. I think this fellow was an ICO investor who had high hopes for a quick return and was kicked off slack early on for being critical. He has internalized that rage and become Waves top dedicated critic and troll. It is sad to see the kind of cynicism that springs up in one who feels such a sense of unrelieved victimhood.

[danielj314]

I agree, the two trolls are one and the same person. Maybe he is a payed by whales who want to accumulate as many Waves as they could.

I think St. Stephan and CrowdFunder are the same person. They have the same writing style and sensibility. And they are always unrelentingly negative about Waves. Not just occasionally critical. Not balanced in any way. Just unrelentingly negative. I think this fellow was an ICO investor who had high hopes for a quick return and was kicked off slack early on for being critical. He has internalized that rage and become Waves top dedicated critic and troll. It is sad to see the kind of cynicism that springs up in one who feels such a sense of unrelieved victimhood.

Another point of evidence to them being the same person is that they inhabit the same time zone. I'm guessing Great Britain or somewhere thereabouts.

I actually don't think he is a paid troll acting on behalf of whales, though it is certainly possible. I kind of think he is an aggrieved former (maybe even current) investor who is mad as hell and wants Waves to pay for having hurt him. It feels too personal for him to just be a paid troll. But who knows. He may be both.

[Scrooge McCrypto]

I agree, the two trolls are one and the same person. Maybe he is a payed by whales who want to accumulate as many Waves as they could.

I think St. Stephan and CrowdFunder are the same person. They have the same writing style and sensibility. And they are always unrelentingly negative about Waves. Not just occasionally critical. Not balanced in any way. Just unrelentingly negative. I think this fellow was an ICO investor who had high hopes for a quick return and was kicked off slack early on for being critical. He has internalized that rage and become Waves top dedicated critic and troll. It is sad to see the kind of cynicism that springs up in one who feels such a sense of unrelieved victimhood.

Another point of evidence to them being the same person is that they inhabit the same time zone. I'm guessing Great Britain or somewhere thereabouts.

I actually don't think he is a paid troll acting on behalf of whales, though it is certainly possible. I kind of think he is an aggrieved former (maybe even current) investor who is mad as hell and wants Waves to pay for having hurt him. It feels too personal for him to just be a paid troll. But who knows. He may be both.

"Yea yea, "any exchange can add waves on their platform". You forgot to mention why not much of those exchanges care about it.
Because Sasha has a big and dirt mouth, and his an expert are trashing whatever and then changing his opinions the next day.

We need someone with photoshop skills to create a Clown meme out of Sasha.

A greedy clown meme." - CrowdFunder

I think we can all agree there is nothing remotely constructive with this sort of criticism. It's quite childish, and is of no benefit to the community. None.

I remember thinking similarly of MonkeyDong1's posts, though I felt on occasion his unrelenting vitriol was justified (back when full nodes were ALWAYS 2 weeks away). As MonkeyDong1 has been inactive in this thread for a couple months, they may all be the same person.

Everyone needs a pastime, I guess.