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February 03, 2017, 07:31:41 AM
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Will we see price 1 usd per 1 wave in this year, I doubt that
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February 03, 2017, 07:59:48 AM
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Will we see price 1 usd per 1 wave in this year, I doubt that

That's a good question and I do wonder. I was hoping to see a dollar during December 2016. Hopefully by the end of this year.

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February 03, 2017, 08:15:08 AM
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the byteball story has also benefitted to waves, even if less than iconomi (35 btc ?):

https://medium.com/iconominet/iconomi-acquires-9-766-of-byteball-initial-distribution-free-of-charge-cd9c4a5d49ac#.mzdvklzel

normally there will be further distributions
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February 03, 2017, 08:19:43 AM
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first pay out for WCT.

"Next week we launch #BCT token on #wavesplatform. 35BTC will be distributed to current #WCT holders" - sasha

https://twitter.com/sasha35625/status/827055001449197568
Now they are promoting WCT (Tokens Community Waves), waves itself in the background, as I understand it. Exchange rate goes down, and it will continue to fall until the team will become reasonable. Incent that was released on the waves platform thus also is waiting for the collapse.

This is just worth clarifying as I think it misunderstands Waves.

Waves is a custom tokens platform. Ultimately there will be many, many tokens issued on Waves, and their value will be determined by the market, not by the WAVES token. They won't even be pegged to WAVES, in the way that many assets were pegged to NXT on the Nxt Asset Exchange, because they will trade directly against BTC and other currencies.

The market cap of a token is not dependent on the market cap of Waves. Successful independent tokens will drive the value of WAVES though.

WCT is one of many tokens, as is Incent. None is a replacement for the core WAVES token. An active token system is a pre-requisite for a valuable WAVES token.


without a wallet integration promoted at the crowdfundstart with Mycelium, what sense does it make to have a platform Assett Exchange?

you have no user base.

this fail is the most worse, even worser as the on-going delays and stupid dumb talk by sasha about next week releases all the time.

and sasha was just saying. yeah, they are doing other things at the moment, i dont care.

hello! sasha you promised Mycelium integration. And you just completely dont care! Are you delusional again? alot of people believed you!

what a fail. The same what happened with Coinomat is repeating.


who was ever thinking different.

What i dont understand, Sasha is paying for promoters like Cassius, but they still cant make a deal mit Mycelium. Its not the fault of Sasha alone, but also all the team. Shame on you Cassius!

Nxt is dead Assett, old technology, replaced by Ardor and will go down the way MasterCoin did. Are you comparing Waves with that? A good one
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February 03, 2017, 08:44:48 AM
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first pay out for WCT.

"Next week we launch #BCT token on #wavesplatform. 35BTC will be distributed to current #WCT holders" - sasha

https://twitter.com/sasha35625/status/827055001449197568
Now they are promoting WCT (Tokens Community Waves), waves itself in the background, as I understand it. Exchange rate goes down, and it will continue to fall until the team will become reasonable. Incent that was released on the waves platform thus also is waiting for the collapse.

This is just worth clarifying as I think it misunderstands Waves.

Waves is a custom tokens platform. Ultimately there will be many, many tokens issued on Waves, and their value will be determined by the market, not by the WAVES token. They won't even be pegged to WAVES, in the way that many assets were pegged to NXT on the Nxt Asset Exchange, because they will trade directly against BTC and other currencies.

The market cap of a token is not dependent on the market cap of Waves. Successful independent tokens will drive the value of WAVES though.

WCT is one of many tokens, as is Incent. None is a replacement for the core WAVES token. An active token system is a pre-requisite for a valuable WAVES token.


without a wallet integration promoted at the crowdfundstart with Mycelium, what sense does it make to have a platform Assett Exchange?

you have no user base.

this fail is the most worse, even worser as the on-going delays and stupid dumb talk by sasha about next week releases all the time.

and sasha was just saying. yeah, they are doing other things at the moment, i dont care.

hello! sasha you promised Mycelium integration. And you just completely dont care! Are you delusional again? alot of people believed you!

what a fail. The same what happened with Coinomat is repeating.


who was ever thinking different.

What i dont understand, Sasha is paying for promoters like Cassius, but they still cant make a deal mit Mycelium. Its not the fault of Sasha alone, but also all the team. Shame on you Cassius!

Nxt is dead Assett, old technology, replaced by Ardor and will go down the way MasterCoin did. Are you comparing Waves with that? A good one

It is a shame about Mycelium. As I understand it, the CEO decided to sell the company and just left it behind.
But user base comes through wider business adoption. There are lots of businesses interested in Waves. Incent will bring its own userbase, independent of crypto. There are ICOs happening on Waves and being planned; I know of at least one major one that should announce in the next few days, all being well. Many other organisations are looking at Waves. People are already building stuff on it, and that's pretty cool.
Finally, the comparison with Nxt was an illustration of how revenue generation isn't pegged to a specific currency, which can impact the price of those tokens.
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February 03, 2017, 08:49:09 AM
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first pay out for WCT.

"Next week we launch #BCT token on #wavesplatform. 35BTC will be distributed to current #WCT holders" - sasha

https://twitter.com/sasha35625/status/827055001449197568
Now they are promoting WCT (Tokens Community Waves), waves itself in the background, as I understand it. Exchange rate goes down, and it will continue to fall until the team will become reasonable. Incent that was released on the waves platform thus also is waiting for the collapse.

This is just worth clarifying as I think it misunderstands Waves.

Waves is a custom tokens platform. Ultimately there will be many, many tokens issued on Waves, and their value will be determined by the market, not by the WAVES token. They won't even be pegged to WAVES, in the way that many assets were pegged to NXT on the Nxt Asset Exchange, because they will trade directly against BTC and other currencies.

The market cap of a token is not dependent on the market cap of Waves. Successful independent tokens will drive the value of WAVES though.

WCT is one of many tokens, as is Incent. None is a replacement for the core WAVES token. An active token system is a pre-requisite for a valuable WAVES token.


without a wallet integration promoted at the crowdfundstart with Mycelium, what sense does it make to have a platform Assett Exchange?

you have no user base.

this fail is the most worse, even worser as the on-going delays and stupid dumb talk by sasha about next week releases all the time.

and sasha was just saying. yeah, they are doing other things at the moment, i dont care.

hello! sasha you promised Mycelium integration. And you just completely dont care! Are you delusional again? alot of people believed you!

what a fail. The same what happened with Coinomat is repeating.


who was ever thinking different.

What i dont understand, Sasha is paying for promoters like Cassius, but they still cant make a deal mit Mycelium. Its not the fault of Sasha alone, but also all the team. Shame on you Cassius!

Nxt is dead Assett, old technology, replaced by Ardor and will go down the way MasterCoin did. Are you comparing Waves with that? A good one

It is a shame about Mycelium. As I understand it, the CEO decided to sell the company and just left it behind.
But user base comes through wider business adoption. There are lots of businesses interested in Waves. Incent will bring its own userbase, independent of crypto. There are ICOs happening on Waves and being planned; I know of at least one major one that should announce in the next few days, all being well. Many other organisations are looking at Waves. People are already building stuff on it, and that's pretty cool.
Finally, the comparison with Nxt was an illustration of how revenue generation isn't pegged to a specific currency, which can impact the price of those tokens.


Mycelium is a scam IMO, their leader is ignorant and  CEO is a naive cry boy. He had ICO and make 6000 BTC and released nothing, and he acquired "mass network" project, which is also inactive one, nowhere to trade like lonely Mycelium. What a shame, shame on him.
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February 03, 2017, 08:52:23 AM
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first pay out for WCT.

"Next week we launch #BCT token on #wavesplatform. 35BTC will be distributed to current #WCT holders" - sasha

https://twitter.com/sasha35625/status/827055001449197568
Now they are promoting WCT (Tokens Community Waves), waves itself in the background, as I understand it. Exchange rate goes down, and it will continue to fall until the team will become reasonable. Incent that was released on the waves platform thus also is waiting for the collapse.

This is just worth clarifying as I think it misunderstands Waves.

Waves is a custom tokens platform. Ultimately there will be many, many tokens issued on Waves, and their value will be determined by the market, not by the WAVES token. They won't even be pegged to WAVES, in the way that many assets were pegged to NXT on the Nxt Asset Exchange, because they will trade directly against BTC and other currencies.

The market cap of a token is not dependent on the market cap of Waves. Successful independent tokens will drive the value of WAVES though.

WCT is one of many tokens, as is Incent. None is a replacement for the core WAVES token. An active token system is a pre-requisite for a valuable WAVES token.


without a wallet integration promoted at the crowdfundstart with Mycelium, what sense does it make to have a platform Assett Exchange?

you have no user base.

this fail is the most worse, even worser as the on-going delays and stupid dumb talk by sasha about next week releases all the time.

and sasha was just saying. yeah, they are doing other things at the moment, i dont care.

hello! sasha you promised Mycelium integration. And you just completely dont care! Are you delusional again? alot of people believed you!

what a fail. The same what happened with Coinomat is repeating.


who was ever thinking different.

What i dont understand, Sasha is paying for promoters like Cassius, but they still cant make a deal mit Mycelium. Its not the fault of Sasha alone, but also all the team. Shame on you Cassius!

Nxt is dead Assett, old technology, replaced by Ardor and will go down the way MasterCoin did. Are you comparing Waves with that? A good one

It is a shame about Mycelium. As I understand it, the CEO decided to sell the company and just left it behind.
But user base comes through wider business adoption. There are lots of businesses interested in Waves. Incent will bring its own userbase, independent of crypto. There are ICOs happening on Waves and being planned; I know of at least one major one that should announce in the next few days, all being well. Many other organisations are looking at Waves. People are already building stuff on it, and that's pretty cool.
Finally, the comparison with Nxt was an illustration of how revenue generation isn't pegged to a specific currency, which can impact the price of those tokens.


So if I'm understanding all this correctly the mycelium/waves collaboration/integration isn't happening anymore?

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February 03, 2017, 08:56:59 AM
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first pay out for WCT.

"Next week we launch #BCT token on #wavesplatform. 35BTC will be distributed to current #WCT holders" - sasha

https://twitter.com/sasha35625/status/827055001449197568
Now they are promoting WCT (Tokens Community Waves), waves itself in the background, as I understand it. Exchange rate goes down, and it will continue to fall until the team will become reasonable. Incent that was released on the waves platform thus also is waiting for the collapse.

This is just worth clarifying as I think it misunderstands Waves.

Waves is a custom tokens platform. Ultimately there will be many, many tokens issued on Waves, and their value will be determined by the market, not by the WAVES token. They won't even be pegged to WAVES, in the way that many assets were pegged to NXT on the Nxt Asset Exchange, because they will trade directly against BTC and other currencies.

The market cap of a token is not dependent on the market cap of Waves. Successful independent tokens will drive the value of WAVES though.

WCT is one of many tokens, as is Incent. None is a replacement for the core WAVES token. An active token system is a pre-requisite for a valuable WAVES token.


without a wallet integration promoted at the crowdfundstart with Mycelium, what sense does it make to have a platform Assett Exchange?

you have no user base.

this fail is the most worse, even worser as the on-going delays and stupid dumb talk by sasha about next week releases all the time.

and sasha was just saying. yeah, they are doing other things at the moment, i dont care.

hello! sasha you promised Mycelium integration. And you just completely dont care! Are you delusional again? alot of people believed you!

what a fail. The same what happened with Coinomat is repeating.


who was ever thinking different.

What i dont understand, Sasha is paying for promoters like Cassius, but they still cant make a deal mit Mycelium. Its not the fault of Sasha alone, but also all the team. Shame on you Cassius!

Nxt is dead Assett, old technology, replaced by Ardor and will go down the way MasterCoin did. Are you comparing Waves with that? A good one

It is a shame about Mycelium. As I understand it, the CEO decided to sell the company and just left it behind.
But user base comes through wider business adoption. There are lots of businesses interested in Waves. Incent will bring its own userbase, independent of crypto. There are ICOs happening on Waves and being planned; I know of at least one major one that should announce in the next few days, all being well. Many other organisations are looking at Waves. People are already building stuff on it, and that's pretty cool.
Finally, the comparison with Nxt was an illustration of how revenue generation isn't pegged to a specific currency, which can impact the price of those tokens.


So if I'm understanding all this correctly the mycelium/waves collaboration/integration isn't happening anymore?

As I understand it, no. Of course it would be worth looking to establish a relationship with the new owner, but no guarantee.
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February 03, 2017, 09:00:22 AM
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It is a shame about Mycelium. As I understand it, the CEO decided to sell the company and just left it behind.
Can Sasha buy Mycelium?
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February 03, 2017, 09:06:33 AM
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first pay out for WCT.

"Next week we launch #BCT token on #wavesplatform. 35BTC will be distributed to current #WCT holders" - sasha

https://twitter.com/sasha35625/status/827055001449197568
Now they are promoting WCT (Tokens Community Waves), waves itself in the background, as I understand it. Exchange rate goes down, and it will continue to fall until the team will become reasonable. Incent that was released on the waves platform thus also is waiting for the collapse.

This is just worth clarifying as I think it misunderstands Waves.

Waves is a custom tokens platform. Ultimately there will be many, many tokens issued on Waves, and their value will be determined by the market, not by the WAVES token. They won't even be pegged to WAVES, in the way that many assets were pegged to NXT on the Nxt Asset Exchange, because they will trade directly against BTC and other currencies.

The market cap of a token is not dependent on the market cap of Waves. Successful independent tokens will drive the value of WAVES though.

WCT is one of many tokens, as is Incent. None is a replacement for the core WAVES token. An active token system is a pre-requisite for a valuable WAVES token.


without a wallet integration promoted at the crowdfundstart with Mycelium, what sense does it make to have a platform Assett Exchange?

you have no user base.

this fail is the most worse, even worser as the on-going delays and stupid dumb talk by sasha about next week releases all the time.

and sasha was just saying. yeah, they are doing other things at the moment, i dont care.

hello! sasha you promised Mycelium integration. And you just completely dont care! Are you delusional again? alot of people believed you!

what a fail. The same what happened with Coinomat is repeating.


who was ever thinking different.

What i dont understand, Sasha is paying for promoters like Cassius, but they still cant make a deal mit Mycelium. Its not the fault of Sasha alone, but also all the team. Shame on you Cassius!

Nxt is dead Assett, old technology, replaced by Ardor and will go down the way MasterCoin did. Are you comparing Waves with that? A good one

It is a shame about Mycelium. As I understand it, the CEO decided to sell the company and just left it behind.
But user base comes through wider business adoption. There are lots of businesses interested in Waves. Incent will bring its own userbase, independent of crypto. There are ICOs happening on Waves and being planned; I know of at least one major one that should announce in the next few days, all being well. Many other organisations are looking at Waves. People are already building stuff on it, and that's pretty cool.
Finally, the comparison with Nxt was an illustration of how revenue generation isn't pegged to a specific currency, which can impact the price of those tokens.


So if I'm understanding all this correctly the mycelium/waves collaboration/integration isn't happening anymore?

As I understand it, no. Of course it would be worth looking to establish a relationship with the new owner, but no guarantee.

I totally agree... the waves team/Sasha need to try and solidify that relationship going forward. The Mycelium partnership was and still is a key factor in terms of mass adoption of the waves platform.

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February 03, 2017, 10:41:09 AM
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the price of Waves is crashed so much~
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February 03, 2017, 11:05:34 AM
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Was trying wavesexplorer.com and it doesn´t work for addresses starting with 3. What´s about addresses starting with 1 and with 3? What´s the difference?
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February 03, 2017, 11:11:45 AM
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the price of Waves is crashed so much~

Don't be sad, because Bitcoin is rising hard, traders sell altcoins, and then sell bitcoin into fiat money. Which is reasonable, you see every time when btc is up, alts are down.
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February 03, 2017, 11:29:12 AM
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the price of Waves is crashed so much~

because a effect the price is up,
many altcoin is down. It's chance to get cheap price to buy it.
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February 03, 2017, 12:00:06 PM
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help me to understand here.

Since waves created 10,000,000 wct. for the next 35btc that they will distribute. (assuming they distribute everything)

the price of 1 wct would be = 35btc/10,000,000 = 0.00000350 btc = 0.0035 usd (for this distribution, assuming 1btc = 1000 usd)
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February 03, 2017, 12:10:00 PM
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first pay out for WCT.

"Next week we launch #BCT token on #wavesplatform. 35BTC will be distributed to current #WCT holders" - sasha

https://twitter.com/sasha35625/status/827055001449197568
Now they are promoting WCT (Tokens Community Waves), waves itself in the background, as I understand it. Exchange rate goes down, and it will continue to fall until the team will become reasonable. Incent that was released on the waves platform thus also is waiting for the collapse.

This is just worth clarifying as I think it misunderstands Waves.

Waves is a custom tokens platform. Ultimately there will be many, many tokens issued on Waves, and their value will be determined by the market, not by the WAVES token. They won't even be pegged to WAVES, in the way that many assets were pegged to NXT on the Nxt Asset Exchange, because they will trade directly against BTC and other currencies.

The market cap of a token is not dependent on the market cap of Waves. Successful independent tokens will drive the value of WAVES though.

WCT is one of many tokens, as is Incent. None is a replacement for the core WAVES token. An active token system is a pre-requisite for a valuable WAVES token.


without a wallet integration promoted at the crowdfundstart with Mycelium, what sense does it make to have a platform Assett Exchange?

you have no user base.

this fail is the most worse, even worser as the on-going delays and stupid dumb talk by sasha about next week releases all the time.

and sasha was just saying. yeah, they are doing other things at the moment, i dont care.

hello! sasha you promised Mycelium integration. And you just completely dont care! Are you delusional again? alot of people believed you!

what a fail. The same what happened with Coinomat is repeating.


who was ever thinking different.

What i dont understand, Sasha is paying for promoters like Cassius, but they still cant make a deal mit Mycelium. Its not the fault of Sasha alone, but also all the team. Shame on you Cassius!

Nxt is dead Assett, old technology, replaced by Ardor and will go down the way MasterCoin did. Are you comparing Waves with that? A good one
Bullshit bitch
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February 03, 2017, 12:20:44 PM
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Was trying wavesexplorer.com and it doesn´t work for addresses starting with 3. What´s about addresses starting with 1 and with 3? What´s the difference?

Hey. Please use the new block explorer - http://www.wavesgo.com/index.html

In fact there is no difference. In previous versions of the software, we have used prefix "1W". Now we do not use it.
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February 03, 2017, 12:23:10 PM
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I even thought the price would go beloe 20ksat, it is only Waves tokens that I know will be listed on new exchange that the price will dropped, this project doesn't follow conventional wisdom
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February 03, 2017, 01:05:25 PM
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Was trying wavesexplorer.com and it doesn´t work for addresses starting with 3. What´s about addresses starting with 1 and with 3? What´s the difference?

Hey. Please use the new block explorer - http://www.wavesgo.com/index.html

In fact there is no difference. In previous versions of the software, we have used prefix "1W". Now we do not use it.


Thanks! It would be good to post that info in the 1st post of this ANN. Also google doesn´t give results for the new one when typing "waves block explorer".
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February 03, 2017, 04:47:41 PM
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Cutting edge blockchain tech for real world


Wavesplatform has been started with a desire to bring existing blockchain tech to real world business applications. Blockchains can offer surprisingly a lot to the world even at the initial stage of their development. After all the technology is just 7 years old. I won’t mention closed blockchains solutions, which are becoming quite mature now. We’re focused on open blockchain technology, and want it to be implemented by real world business now.

Ability to create custom blockchains tokens and transact in them easily is the main emphasis of Wavesplatform. Any business should have an easy method to issue a custom token that can be used as an integral part of the business applications. Game currencies, crowdfunding, internal currencies, vouchers and loyalty reward programs — they all a gain a lot from using open blockchains. In effect network infrastructure and system audit is outsourced to an open blockchain. This is a new dimension for business.

Blockchain tech is hard to scale, it has some innate disadvantages that should be worked on to make it really usable beyond testing environment. Since we’re focused on blockchain tokens we need to make the infrastructure for them usable, scalable and flexible. Several approaches are pursued here by us — authenticated data structures, Bitcoin NG-like scalability enhancements, decentralized blockchain trading enhanced by centralized matching. Besides we’re considering several ways to realize blockchain-based logic functionality, in a more secure and scalable way than in existing systems. This will put us on the map of business-oriented smart contracts platforms.

Authenticated data structures are meant to solve the issues that emerge when you have many tokens and transactions on your blockchain. If a blockchain is used extensively it grows in size and the current balances ledger that the blockchain secures will be harder and harder to handle. Approach we pursue is based on the work of Leonid Reyzin, Dmitry Meshkov, Alexander Chepurnoy https://eprint.iacr.org/2016/994 . It is shown how to build effective Merkle tree — like data structures that beat all current best benchmarks. Scalability enhancements come from short crytpographic digest put on the blockchain, which allows network nodes not to store the state of the network tokens it does not want to track. Network nodes can store only the state of the tokens they have an interest in, for example the tokens they issued.

Authenticated data structures approach will be pursued further, with the goal of creating efficient lite clients, effective state storage, and enhanced system throughput. Blockchain pruning and working directly with authenticated state is our long term goal.

We want to create a high-load ready system. This is important from both practical and marketing point of view, network should be announced as ready for use in high load production systems.

Our technical vision of this consists in using Bitcoin NG approach, that provides a clear throughput increase through a soft-fork. New type of blocks is introduced, and the miners compete for the right to generate a succession of blocks between two anchor, key blocks. It uses the network infrastructure more efficiently allowing to increase throughput to potentially 1k transactions per second.

Blockchain tokens are essentially a new type of financial instruments, and, as such, there has to be a way to trade them efficiently and in a trustless way. Blockchain-based trading has an innate latency, centralized trading in crypto has serious security issues with all the crypto assets stored by exchanges in a centralized way. We try to have the best of the both worlds — Waves assets trading is done through centralized order matching but decentralized order settlement. You can have efficient and fast order execution without your money being stored by anybody but yourself. Users retain full control of their funds at all times, but can trade without significant latency anyway. This approach can be generalized beyond crypto, potentially traditional trading infrastructure could embrace it too.

Our research and development effort is directed towards real world applications of crypto technology. We develop the cutting edge tech to be usable NOW. Open blockchains is the future of humanity, and it’s high time to start using them in real life beyond simple money transfer applications.

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