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June 07, 2016, 07:56:50 PM |
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Yes, it was.... you have to have a ICO account to join the newsletter bounty. Waves should make a google docs document... in fact this should all be done by google docs and make all information public. I can be easily that there isn't 8000 people at all, but maybe only 4000 or 6000.... how to verify?
You didn't have to buy into the ICO account was for buying tokens AND receiving bounties. Just think about it. That 5.7K figure was the number of people who BOUGHT tokens. Sasha should release a google doc so that everybody can see who was there... they can remove the first characters of the mail addresses or so. It should be a 5 minute task. Everything is stored in a database so run a replace command, change the first 5 characters in XXXXX and show us that 8000 user list. Also was there a IP check? Maybe some people created 10/100 mail addresses to receive more coins. It should be linked to a BCT user, and to a BCT user that is not a newbie level. I'm pretty sure that a lot of cheating has happened because of the terrible way how the bounties were run. Don't get me wrong, i like Waves, i have invested several BTCs in Waves, but management sucks.
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June 07, 2016, 07:58:58 PM |
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Sasha should release a google doc so that everybody can see who was there... they can remove the last characters of the mail addresses or so. It should be a 5 minute task. Everything is stored in a database so run a replace command, change the first 5 characters in XXXXX and show us that 8000 user list.
No because that would open things up to spammers even if they did remove a few characters.
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June 07, 2016, 08:00:03 PM |
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Sasha should release a google doc so that everybody can see who was there... they can remove the last characters of the mail addresses or so. It should be a 5 minute task. Everything is stored in a database so run a replace command, change the first 5 characters in XXXXX and show us that 8000 user list.
8000 subscribed probably with bots but they didn`t create accounts on the ICO site so it will be added to post-ICO bounties pool. There is only 3233 members those who created account on the ICO site with the same email.
Dev team reserve the rest from that 5000 additionally subscribed accounts as someone can contact still, if noone contacts undistributed ones go to post-ICO poolFrom Dm's with @MX
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June 07, 2016, 08:00:52 PM |
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Sasha should release a google doc so that everybody can see who was there... they can remove the last characters of the mail addresses or so. It should be a 5 minute task. Everything is stored in a database so run a replace command, change the first 5 characters in XXXXX and show us that 8000 user list.
No because that would open things up to spammers even if they did remove a few characters. Maybe... but if it was run here via google docs from the beginning and only allow member higher then newbie then you would see a total different number.
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June 07, 2016, 08:01:28 PM |
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Yes, it was.... you have to have a ICO account to join the newsletter bounty. Waves should make a google docs document... in fact this should all be done by google docs and make all information public. I can be easily that there isn't 8000 people at all, but maybe only 4000 or 6000.... how to verify?
You didn't have to buy into the ICO account was for buying tokens AND receiving bounties. Just think about it. That 5.7K figure was the number of people who BOUGHT tokens. Sasha should release a google doc so that everybody can see who was there... they can remove the first characters of the mail addresses or so. It should be a 5 minute task. Everything is stored in a database so run a replace command, change the first 5 characters in XXXXX and show us that 8000 user list. Also was there a IP check? Maybe some people created 10/100 mail addresses to receive more coins. It should be linked to a BCT user, and to a BCT user that is not a newbie level. I'm pretty sure that a lot of cheating has happened because of the terrible way how the bounties were run. Don't get me wrong, i like Waves, i have invested several BTCs in Waves, but management sucks. You can set up an account without buying in to the ICO. And just use it for bounty. They said there were 5,790 that bought into the ICO. Not 5,790 that created accounts.
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June 07, 2016, 08:01:43 PM |
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I'm pretty sure that a lot of cheating has happened because of the terrible way how the bounties were run.
Don't get me wrong, i like Waves, i have invested several BTCs in Waves, but management sucks.
That's just not true. The management is infinitely better than most other ICOs I can think of. Anyway there is no 100% way of avoiding cheating.
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June 07, 2016, 08:03:24 PM |
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Sasha should release a google doc so that everybody can see who was there... they can remove the last characters of the mail addresses or so. It should be a 5 minute task. Everything is stored in a database so run a replace command, change the first 5 characters in XXXXX and show us that 8000 user list.
8000 subscribed probably with bots but they didn`t create accounts on the ICO site so it will be added to post-ICO bounties pool. There is only 3233 members those who created account on the ICO site with the same email.
Dev team reserve the rest from that 5000 additionally subscribed accounts as someone can contact still, if noone contacts undistributed ones go to post-ICO pool 3233 members those who created account on the ICO site with the same email.That is my .... point!!!! They said, you need the same address as on the ICO site... so the reward should have been split over those 3233 members!!! and should not go to any post-ico pool or so... That 3233 nember that sounds right!!!! So if Waves want to be correct then only those 3233 members should receive their 61.86 Waves coins!!!
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June 07, 2016, 08:05:25 PM |
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That is my .... point!!!! They said, you need the same address as on the ICO site... so the reward should have been split over those 3233 members!!! and should not go to any post-ico pool or so... That 3233 nember that sounds right!!!!
So if Waves want to be correct then only those 3233 members should receive their 61.86 Waves coins!!!
Please stop to create a scandal. Nevertheless, they have received about 8,000 participants with probably bots. Participants with different addresses can also get the bounty. Of course if they are registered before ICO end.
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June 07, 2016, 08:06:25 PM |
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Yes, it was.... you have to have a ICO account to join the newsletter bounty. Waves should make a google docs document... in fact this should all be done by google docs and make all information public. I can be easily that there isn't 8000 people at all, but maybe only 4000 or 6000.... how to verify?
You didn't have to buy into the ICO account was for buying tokens AND receiving bounties. Just think about it. That 5.7K figure was the number of people who BOUGHT tokens. Sasha should release a google doc so that everybody can see who was there... they can remove the first characters of the mail addresses or so. It should be a 5 minute task. Everything is stored in a database so run a replace command, change the first 5 characters in XXXXX and show us that 8000 user list. Also was there a IP check? Maybe some people created 10/100 mail addresses to receive more coins. It should be linked to a BCT user, and to a BCT user that is not a newbie level. I'm pretty sure that a lot of cheating has happened because of the terrible way how the bounties were run. Don't get me wrong, i like Waves, i have invested several BTCs in Waves, but management sucks. First I'm a "Newbie" account and I bought 2.7 btc worth, should I not be entitled to my bounty. Second if I wanted to change my ip address and submit 100 email addresses I could and would. No I.p check would stop me. Management has been pretty good compared to other projects.
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June 07, 2016, 08:06:33 PM |
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I'm pretty sure that a lot of cheating has happened because of the terrible way how the bounties were run.
Don't get me wrong, i like Waves, i have invested several BTCs in Waves, but management sucks.
That's just not true. The management is infinitely better than most other ICOs I can think of. Anyway there is no 100% way of avoiding cheating. Yes, there is. Using BCT and user must exist before ICO started. then the cheating will be 0.0001%, maybe you have a few people that has 2 accounts on BCT... but then you could have added another rule that the account most have a number of posts just one month before ICO. Result of cheating. 0.0000001% That is how you do it, and that is how it should be done. I hope they will think of smarter rules for the Post-ICO then the current ones...
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June 07, 2016, 08:09:27 PM |
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That is my .... point!!!! They said, you need the same address as on the ICO site... so the reward should have been split over those 3233 members!!! and should not go to any post-ico pool or so... That 3233 nember that sounds right!!!!
So if Waves want to be correct then only those 3233 members should receive their 61.86 Waves coins!!!
That is incorrect. They did not originally specify that you needed the same e-mail address so in order to be fair they are allowing people to still receive their bounties if they didn't. There is no way for them to know how many of those extra people are bots or are genuine people so they have to reserve the funds. It is quite obvious and straightforward. If they didn't do it this way people would complain about it being unfair.
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June 07, 2016, 08:10:00 PM |
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That is my .... point!!!! They said, you need the same address as on the ICO site... so the reward should have been split over those 3233 members!!! and should not go to any post-ico pool or so... That 3233 nember that sounds right!!!!
So if Waves want to be correct then only those 3233 members should receive their 61.86 Waves coins!!!
Please stop to create a scandal. Nevertheless, they have received about 8,000 participants with probably bots. Participants with different addresses can also get the bounty. Of course if they are registered before ICO end.
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June 07, 2016, 08:12:25 PM |
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Yes, there is.
Using BCT and user must exist before ICO started. then the cheating will be 0.0001%, maybe you have a few people that has 2 accounts on BCT... but then you could have added another rule that the account most have a number of posts just one month before ICO. Result of cheating. 0.0000001%
That is how you do it, and that is how it should be done. I hope they will think of smarter rules for the Post-ICO then the current ones...
Actually your solution has the same problems so solves nothing. Many people have shill accounts on BTC it is no different from fake twitter/FB accounts or multiple email addresses.
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June 07, 2016, 08:12:38 PM |
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I'm pretty sure that a lot of cheating has happened because of the terrible way how the bounties were run.
Don't get me wrong, i like Waves, i have invested several BTCs in Waves, but management sucks.
That's just not true. The management is infinitely better than most other ICOs I can think of. Anyway there is no 100% way of avoiding cheating. Yes, there is. Using BCT and user must exist before ICO started. then the cheating will be 0.0001%, maybe you have a few people that has 2 accounts on BCT... but then you could have added another rule that the account most have a number of posts just one month before ICO. Result of cheating. 0.0000001% That is how you do it, and that is how it should be done. I hope they will think of smarter rules for the Post-ICO then the current ones... Soooo anyone who joined BCT because of the Waves ICO would be excluded. Also keep in mind some people don't use BCT for obvious scam/spam reasons. I'm sorry but that's a terrible idea.
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June 07, 2016, 08:13:20 PM |
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Sasha should release a google doc so that everybody can see who was there... they can remove the last characters of the mail addresses or so. It should be a 5 minute task. Everything is stored in a database so run a replace command, change the first 5 characters in XXXXX and show us that 8000 user list.
8000 subscribed probably with bots but they didn`t create accounts on the ICO site so it will be added to post-ICO bounties pool. There is only 3233 members those who created account on the ICO site with the same email.
Dev team reserve the rest from that 5000 additionally subscribed accounts as someone can contact still, if noone contacts undistributed ones go to post-ICO poolFrom Dm's with @MX sounds like a very reasonable way of going about it. also received newsletter bounty
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June 07, 2016, 08:15:44 PM |
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I've made my point. I will stop this topic. For me the way how it was handled was done by children. But i hold a big amount of BTCs in Waves so... i hope that their development skills are a lot better then what they have show so far.
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June 07, 2016, 08:16:29 PM |
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Received news letter bounties. Appreciated
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June 07, 2016, 08:18:50 PM |
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I've made my point. I will stop this topic. For me the way how it was handled was done by children. But i hold a big amount of BTCs in Waves so... i hope that their development skills are a lot better then what they have show so far.
I feel like anyone who makes a claim like this while renting your signature out to a project like RISE must be full of it. Not to mention you've made similar type posts in this thread before. C'mon, who are you expecting to fool? The last like 20 pages of this thread is people moaning that they didn't get their free coins. There's no pleasing everyone, people will always find something to complain about
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sxafir
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June 07, 2016, 08:21:04 PM |
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Why i cant login with my autherization code?
Check the time zone. Check the time on your smartphone, try to use a different browser. I think the problem was i am not conecting my phone on the internet.
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