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June 26, 2016, 10:19:01 PM |
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I planned to keep my coins medium to longterm so no panic here Your coins will worth zero medium to long term so good luck buddy. He's not your buddy, guy. He's not your guy, my friend Hahaha someone is paying attention. Awwww man, you ruined it
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dolores12
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June 26, 2016, 10:27:19 PM |
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I have been watching the market for the last 2 hours. I believe it is heavily manipulated. Now, my theory makes sense that the waves team are themselves trading using free waves. They can sell their own coins that they bought with virtual btc during the last days of the ICO.
I hope I am wrong. But I smell something going on. Maybe that's the reason why some exchanges can't trust them.
This is exactly what is happening. Also if Poloniex ever adds this it won't be for few weeks. By then the price could go down to nothing. YES, and the Chinese exchange that "touzibi" that just added Waves is very sketchy: - The "touzibi.com" exchange was started on May 19, 2016, the start of the Waves ICO
- Waves team members claim that 700k USD worth is exchanged there, but they are not listed anywhere http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/markets/info
- All mentions of "touzibi" on the bitcointalk forum (this site) has only been in reference to Waves
- The announcement for the exchange was commented by many Chinese posters with warnings; many said to be careful, it is not trustworthy
- Someone on the Waves slack channel mentioned that this exchange has been created by the Waves team for marketing
- Waves is closed source and has not contacted the exchange; they are listing themselves; their official news release claims they will offer Waves credits / IOU, not real Waves
yes, this exchange is totally fake!!! waves is only on trex..no serious asian exchange will add as now!!!! all bs from sasha!!
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smoky
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June 26, 2016, 10:30:59 PM |
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In a few month all the dumpers will cry, believe me
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axlroses
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June 26, 2016, 10:34:31 PM |
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I might buy some coins soon. This project isn't very impressive so I will wait longer before I buy. Where is the link to the show?
wow WAVE devs don't want BTC as payment. wtf. This project sucks. haha no lead dev. this project sucks Nice try I'm watching the interview right now. Sorry to tell you this but there is no lead developer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXo49HfQxu4&feature=youtu.be&t=30m19sThis is normal when a company wants to have the best staff. Is Sasha a developer himself? What programming languages does he have experience with? Other than Waves, is there any proof of his competency in programming? no he's scammer. everything is fuckin bullshit.
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Alexthesalamander
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June 26, 2016, 10:51:56 PM |
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The plan for sasha is to have the price of Waves go so much down that he can buy 90% of all waves and still have 50% of ico money in his own pocket for personal gain. Easy scheme! You are idiots lol
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Buy high and sell low
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June 26, 2016, 10:56:20 PM |
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The plan for sasha is to have the price of Waves go so much down that he can buy 90% of all waves and still have 50% of ico money in his own pocket for personal gain. Easy scheme! You are idiots lol
nice plan... so buy cheap sell high
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Soul_eater_123
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June 26, 2016, 10:58:23 PM |
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The plan for sasha is to have the price of Waves go so much down that he can buy 90% of all waves and still have 50% of ico money in his own pocket for personal gain. Easy scheme! You are idiots lol
I like the plan as long as I get some cheap too.
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b1007
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June 26, 2016, 11:10:09 PM |
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Waves is going great, Tai Zen already bought his lambo
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I like to speculate
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June 26, 2016, 11:18:14 PM |
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lol
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compmaster
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June 26, 2016, 11:19:02 PM |
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I might buy some coins soon. This project isn't very impressive so I will wait longer before I buy. Where is the link to the show?
wow WAVE devs don't want BTC as payment. wtf. This project sucks. haha no lead dev. this project sucks Nice try I'm watching the interview right now. Sorry to tell you this but there is no lead developer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXo49HfQxu4&feature=youtu.be&t=30m19sWho thinks WAVES can find a lead dev though? If someone actually was a lead dev couldn't they just raise $100,000,000 in a crowdsale and start their own coin?
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enhu
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June 26, 2016, 11:43:05 PM |
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Seem like there no news yet I've been waiting is about the development of the platform. The team seem to concentrate more on price instead of the progress of the platform. Don't they have someone for marketing only and they they have to do it all together for the marketing?
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X1235
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June 26, 2016, 11:43:44 PM |
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I might buy some coins soon. This project isn't very impressive so I will wait longer before I buy. Where is the link to the show?
wow WAVE devs don't want BTC as payment. wtf. This project sucks. haha no lead dev. this project sucks Nice try I'm watching the interview right now. Sorry to tell you this but there is no lead developer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXo49HfQxu4&feature=youtu.be&t=30m19sI am the lead developer!
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Twiggy Smile
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June 26, 2016, 11:48:51 PM |
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Seem like there no news yet I've been waiting is about the development of the platform. The team seem to concentrate more on price instead of the progress of the platform. Don't they have someone for marketing only and they they have to do it all together for the marketing?
Waves Platform For Investors #7 - Post ICO Update With Sasha Ivanov, Creator Of The Waves Platform https://youtu.be/FXo49HfQxu4###
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thoth-Atlantian
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June 26, 2016, 11:51:55 PM |
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I might buy some coins soon. This project isn't very impressive so I will wait longer before I buy. Where is the link to the show?
wow WAVE devs don't want BTC as payment. wtf. This project sucks. haha no lead dev. this project sucks Nice try I'm watching the interview right now. Sorry to tell you this but there is no lead developer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXo49HfQxu4&feature=youtu.be&t=30m19sThis is normal when a company wants to have the best staff. Yeah who would want to be paid in BTC? Price can wipe out 25% of a weeks pay in 5 mins Maybe a portion of but selling some to pay staff isnt a big deal at all. You can tell the people that own a business as opposed to the faucet spamming kids on here. Sure wish I had some more non assigned BTC to put in to this now
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compmaster
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June 27, 2016, 12:10:52 AM |
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I might buy some coins soon. This project isn't very impressive so I will wait longer before I buy. Where is the link to the show?
wow WAVE devs don't want BTC as payment. wtf. This project sucks. haha no lead dev. this project sucks Nice try I'm watching the interview right now. Sorry to tell you this but there is no lead developer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXo49HfQxu4&feature=youtu.be&t=30m19sWho thinks WAVES can find a lead dev though? If someone actually was a lead dev couldn't they just raise $100,000,000 in a crowdsale and start their own coin? This will be interesting to see the conclusion. What will a lead developers contract be? Will they want millions each year for 5+ years. Will they be impossible to hire and instead prefer to start their own coin? Will they work for $50,000 a year with no contract necessary.
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dan_and_shan
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June 27, 2016, 12:33:04 AM |
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so is anyone else still waiting for their waves to be deposited from the ico page??? or is it just me?
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Don't take life too serious, No one gets out alive
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June 27, 2016, 12:38:34 AM Last edit: June 27, 2016, 12:55:04 AM by jupiter00000 |
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so is anyone else still waiting for their waves to be deposited from the ico page??? or is it just me?
Are you kidding? Cocky Russians talk so big.
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evergrow
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June 27, 2016, 12:41:23 AM |
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so is anyone else still waiting for their waves to be deposited from the ico page??? or is it just me?
I've received mine a long time ago. Did you do everything correctly?
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dan_and_shan
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June 27, 2016, 12:43:25 AM |
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No, my ico page still has them stuck just sitting there? I have added a withdraw address and confirmed but no love? Come on sasha35625 please get it sorted, coins have been trading for a week now?
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June 27, 2016, 01:00:33 AM |
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I am kinda surprised that no one knew this was a scam from the get-go...or maybe you knew it was a scam and just wanted to go along for the pump n dump /get rich quick ride. IMO that's a level of risk I'm not interested in because I know that:
1. The vast majority of crowdsales fail. 2. The vast majority often don't survive past the first dump 3. The vast majority of scams don't go beyond a first homepage. 4. And so on and so on.
This coin met all the suspicious criteria plus tax. The only funny bit was that they showed their faces, but that means nothing to me as how many people have shown their faces and still left people holding the bag? What matters to me is community reputation and results, and even that doesn't guarantee anything. They claimed they were partners with Merkle, and other 'name brands' but only linked to a badly written article that was part of the 'hype'. And then they mysteriously cease communication after the crowdsale and people with complaints can't reach them? They climbed ranks on coinmarketcap and that has given them 'some' legitimacy, but we know the truth.
It's for this reason why I rarely 'angel invest' in crowdsales, and prefer to simply watch from the sidelines. Some of them have promise and actual reputation....In very rare cases will I invest in a crowdsale or ICOs, (1) If I truly believe in the viability of it's future and see it as useful to me and others (in which case it has to meet other criteria for me to jump in). (2) I believe that the hype being generated will carry it away such that it will be pump n dumped quickly so I can enter and exit quickly + the backing of 'name brand' people which increases the potential for reward. (i.e in such a case it doesn't matter if it's a pump n dump because I myself plan to dump it at the first exit).
I don't tend to enjoy being the 'first user' of something since price always goes down after initial launch. But you can still get your money back...
There's a lot going in your favor. People still believe in the coin, the currency is at a steady price, and it can stay that way if you guys don't panic. Realize that there is no bad news about this coin floating around outside of facebook comments and this forum, and it only takes some good news to bring it up. Go write a paper about why you believe Waves will be a great coin and submit it.
Right now because the coins are so cheap and because it cost relatively nothing to participate, there are bound to be whales who own the coin and will pump then dump, so be patient and exit then. If the coin is truly valuable and not a scam then it'll survive the pump and eventually bounce back from the dump.
I myself have a love for amassing cheap coins during panics and selling back to people when it goes up IF the coin has a pattern/history to compare it against.... Try to be more confident about your choices and if you really want a profit now. Work together and whale the prices. That's the best I can tell you otherwise, lots of great suggestions about holding. And if the price remains steady it could hedge against any volatility in bitcoin.
Great write-up. I couldn't agree more. It's just that some who invested in ICOs profit right after selling like those who participated in Lisk so they thought it will be the same for every ICOs and see it as an opportunity to double or even triple their money in a few months time. Well, at least this failure made everyone realize that not all ICOs are the same. I've noticed that. I don't think many people realize that all ICOs are is a donation attached with a promise. "If you invest in my coin and IF we profit from it, you can get a reward." It's a big 'if' an unknown, with no guarantees. They don't even realize that the market sets the price... The reward itself IMO is just a promise like a rebate or receipt. Typically ICOs are launched by start-ups who haven't done much to raise their own capital, offer nothing of value in the moment, have no previous works to show for and are crowdfunding to say, "we have not yet created anything, haven't even raised much of our own money, but give us money and we can do just that." Very rarely do they have previous works and developments to back up their claim, and when they do very rarely do people check to see how that worked out for them and what they did. How is it that when running a kickstarter people need to see something tangible to see how something works, but here in the cryptocommunity by majority we just take their word for it using the existence of a coin on an exchange as evidence that it's the real deal? This works this way in all walks of life. How many people buy games pre-sale before launch, and then watch as that game shoots down in price shortly after launch or a year later? Combine this with the fact that most ICOs are start-ups and that 90% of start-ups actually fail. It's interesting how many people will give money to someone they haven't met just because they have a nice webpage a picture and give you a I.O.U coin, and then get upset because that I.O.U/ICO didn't do what they wanted it to do after launch for whatever reason. Most people who are just 'gambling' and don't have a strategy or plan that works (other than closing their eyes and throwing a dart hoping it hits something) are better off looking at existing coins that are in the accumulation phase and have an obvious pattern, and then purchasing those than they are taking a thoughtless gamble on ICOs. There are so many coins right now that spend more time accumulating than they do in distribution and have an obvious pattern. The payouts can be just as good with less risk if people learn how to read the charts and question/scrutinize the developers. I see people make these mistakes and I cringe. Sometimes I want to write a book just to keep people from making the same mistakes and thinking smart. But maybe their mistakes will someday pay off for them, better than putting money into a lottery I suppose I personally trade by the philosophy that trading bitcoin etc. doesn't have to be a big gamble, loss can be minimized and mitigated. But people don't think and sometimes they get lucky, and sometimes they don't. If they have money to lose they just throw it in a pot and hope the developer doesn't light a match. There are ways to mitigate the risk so that the loss is negligible but that requires thought. The biggest asset people can have is educating oneself and completely tearing apart and dissecting any company or business that asks for your money with critical questions and a request for tangible proof. If those questions aren't answered properly or can't be answered move onto the next thing. At the end of the day there will always be opportunities, patience is a virtue. What goes up, always goes down, and history repeats itself. Maxxed out my word count for the day. -The End- Bravo
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