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[azguard]

This formula 1 is really ridicolus, the judges are incompetent and slow.
First, Verstapopen go to the podium, later 5 minutes, Vettel is on the podium and later 2 hour Vettel have 10 second of penality and Ricciardo is on the podium.
Like a football game, race get end with one result, and don't change more time, already for the betting

Agreed  they got punished for short track and Hamilton and Rosberg also take short track and they didn't got punished
I don't know what they do anymore

Yes, Hamilton and Rosberg this way gained advantage in 1st lap. So, why they didn't got penalty? And why Vettel got 10 sec penalty and Verstappen only 5 sec? Looks like Verstappen have protection from FIA. Remember, how many times he didn't get penalty after breaking rules.
I'm missing old times formula when drivers was able to fight for position. Now it become similar to simulator.

saw replay of race last night and still dont get it right why some teams (drivers) never get penalty for such driving
maybe this is my opinion on this matter or not i just dont know why always same drivers or teams get penalty and never Mercedes
to be honest i dont recall they get any penalty this year and they made several big mistakes so far

[cicciobtc]

Standing F1:

1)Nico Rosberg  Mercedes    349
2)Lewis Hamilton  Mercedes   330

3)Daniel Ricciardo  Red Bull Racing  242

4)Sebastian Vettel  Ferrari  187
5)Kimi Raikkonen   Ferrari  178
6)Max Verstappen  Red Bull Racing  177

7)Sergio Perez  Force India 85
7)Valtteri Bottas Williams   85

9)Nico Hulkenberg  Force India 60
10)Fernando Alonso McLaren 52
11)Felipe Massa Williams  51

Rosberg 2 runs from the end was a great advantage to 19 points.
You need to win 1 victory or a second+a third place

[bbc.reporter]

Formula 1 is getting boring now that the end of the season is fast approaching. Nico Rosberg has the championship in the bag unless something happens to his car or a huge driver error occurs. I wish it was 2017 season already and I hope McClaren and Ferrari improve their cars enough to be competitive in the constructors championship.

[Dux2K]

Formula 1 is getting boring now that the end of the season is fast approaching. Nico Rosberg has the championship in the bag unless something happens to his car or a huge driver error occurs. I wish it was 2017 season already and I hope McClaren and Ferrari improve their cars enough to be competitive in the constructors championship.

I sure hope it will be
I would love to see this to see 4-5 teams in battle for win next season and still have hope for this to be reality
I maybe ask much but if this happens it will be great

[smho_16]

Formula 1 is getting boring now that the end of the season is fast approaching. Nico Rosberg has the championship in the bag unless something happens to his car or a huge driver error occurs. I wish it was 2017 season already and I hope McClaren and Ferrari improve their cars enough to be competitive in the constructors championship.

For Mclaren there is a big opportunity , more from the Honda side rather than the Mclaren side as for Ferrari they are struggling from quite a few years now so I don't expect them fighting back in 2017. One thing I can say for sure F1 maybe boring for Mclaren, Ferrari fans but from a fan of racing it's not boring. Mercedeses are fighting each other and with 2 races to go only 19 points difference between the drivers it will be good to watch. Although I agree seeing Mclaren in such a shameful for I am not happy and a lot of races during this year I have not even watched.

[ArdiPrabowo]

Formula 1 is getting boring now that the end of the season is fast approaching. Nico Rosberg has the championship in the bag unless something happens to his car or a huge driver error occurs. I wish it was 2017 season already and I hope McClaren and Ferrari improve their cars enough to be competitive in the constructors championship.

if ferari maclaren and redbull can develop car is equal mercedes
batle championship can competitif, not only duo mercedes hamilton and roseberg
but include sebastian vetel , max vestapen and riciardo

[bbc.reporter]

@ArdiPrabowo. But that is the point. Ferrari and Redbull are very highly capable of developing and creating a winning car but they have not done so in years. There is no excuse for them because they have the resources. Also especially for McClaren, do you think Force India is the better car maker than them? Of course not, that is why it is very frustrating to see their current predicament.

[Dux2K]

@ArdiPrabowo. But that us the point. Ferarri and Redbull are very highly capable of developing and creating a winning car but they have not done so in years. There is no excuse for them because they have the resources. Also especially for McClaren, do you think Force India is the better car maker than them? Of course not, that is why it is very frustrating to see their current predicament.

this is true think that mercedes made not just good car but engine was to perfect this year
Also they have to good aerodynamics which is second factor to this
can see any team that can be good but they need to change drastically for next year

[zend7]

@ArdiPrabowo. But that is the point. Ferrari and Redbull are very highly capable of developing and creating a winning car but they have not done so in years. There is no excuse for them because they have the resources. Also especially for McClaren, do you think Force India is the better car maker than them? Of course not, that is why it is very frustrating to see their current predicament.

Good things take time to develop. It's just the second year and Mclaren has made passes of giant toward improving their car compared to last year, this is an undeniable fact. I am pretty sure in 2017 Honda will be ready to challenge anyone and be one of the top contenders for winning races. It's in their philosophy to be winners, they have beat Mercedes almost everywhere, I think they have beat it in Indy races so it will be no different here on F1. The only problem is we have to be patient to see the results.

Miracles doesn't happen, hard work yes.

[azguard]

@ArdiPrabowo. But that is the point. Ferrari and Redbull are very highly capable of developing and creating a winning car but they have not done so in years. There is no excuse for them because they have the resources. Also especially for McClaren, do you think Force India is the better car maker than them? Of course not, that is why it is very frustrating to see their current predicament.

Good things take time to develop. It's just the second year and Mclaren has made passes of giant toward improving their car compared to last year, this is an undeniable fact. I am pretty sure in 2017 Honda will be ready to challenge anyone and be one of the top contenders for winning races. It's in their philosophy to be winners, they have beat Mercedes almost everywhere, I think they have beat it in Indy races so it will be no different here on F1. The only problem is we have to be patient to see the results.

Miracles doesn't happen, hard work yes.

you said it right if we look 2015 year for McLaren was terrible in any means we could use this word but this year was good for them they finish in point in many races and if i recall Alonso took 2 times 5th place in race which is huge improvement if we look back in 2015

still it will take time but i think if pieces are place well for next season we could expect to see them quite often in this place can be sure for wins or podiums but for start to be in every race in points next season

[marioantonini]

in this day, more site write "Ross Brawn can back in F1 with the new group liberty media", but Brown reply "is only a little technical consultancy.
I think this new owner can change and add more show in F1, first change charlie whiting like race director

[Dux2K]

in this day, more site write "Ross Brawn can back in F1 with the new group liberty media", but Brown reply "is only a little technical consultancy.
I think this new owner can change and add more show in F1, first change charlie whiting like race director

we will see what will bring new season and i hope for bigger changes for competition
I sure hope we will enjoy next season

[tokeweed]

The Brazilian Grand Prix is upon us.  I hope to see the McClarens to have a good performance and hopefully both cars could finish in the top 10.  They have improved but far from being consistent.  Let's see if they can improve further next season.

Brazilian GP Timetable

Thursday 10 November
11:00 – 12:00: FIA press conference

Friday 11 November
10:00 – 11:30: First free practice
14:00 – 15:30: Second free practice
16:00 – 17:00: FIA press conference

Saturday 12 November
11:00 – 12:00: Third free practice
14:00 – 15:00: Qualifying
15:00: FIA post-qualifying press conference

Sunday 13 November
14:00 – 16:00: Brazilian Grand Prix
16:00: FIA post-race press conference

Brazilian GP Info
No of Laps: 71
Race Distance: 305.909
Lap Record: 1:11.473 Juan Pablo Montoya (2004)
2015 Winner: Nico Rosberg (Mercedes)

[azguard]

This race will be interesting cuz if Rosberg wins this one he will be champ (i hope for it) but again if Lewis wins this one its gonna be very interesting to see last race, other scenario is that Rosberg engine go down then it will be interesting but this is only some scenarios and speculations on this upcoming event

[Dux2K]

This race will be interesting cuz if Rosberg wins this one he will be champ (i hope for it) but again if Lewis wins this one its gonna be very interesting to see last race, other scenario is that Rosberg engine go down then it will be interesting but this is only some scenarios and speculations on this upcoming event

sure it would be great to see Rosberg win the title but think that after will be talk that they were in favor of Rosberg maybe I'mwrong but that were talked about few month before

[cicciobtc]

Who win the last Gp  of Valencia?

Marquez Marc      @2.6
Valentino Rossi    @4.0
Jorge Lorenzo      @6.0
Maverick Vinales  @9.0
Andrea Dovizioso @11.0
Andrea Iannone   @11.0
Cal Crutchlow      @13.0
Dani Pedrosa       @13.0
Aleix Espargaro    @34.0
Hector Barbera     @67.0
Danilo Petrucci     @81.00

I bet on V. Rossi at quote@4

[tokeweed]

This race will be interesting cuz if Rosberg wins this one he will be champ (i hope for it) but again if Lewis wins this one its gonna be very interesting to see last race, other scenario is that Rosberg engine go down then it will be interesting but this is only some scenarios and speculations on this upcoming event

Haha, I have been hoping and waiting for that to happen after the Malaysian Grand Prix.  If it does happen this weekend then I think Hamilton could win the championship.  He had a small lead vs Rosberg until his engine going down at Malaysia.  If that didn't happen, I really think that he could still be maintaining the lead right now.  Hamilton is just a better driver than Rosberg.

[novemberwoah]

Who win the last Gp  of Valencia?

Marquez Marc      @2.6
Valentino Rossi    @4.0
Jorge Lorenzo      @6.0
Maverick Vinales  @9.0
Andrea Dovizioso @11.0
Andrea Iannone   @11.0
Cal Crutchlow      @13.0
Dani Pedrosa       @13.0
Aleix Espargaro    @34.0
Hector Barbera     @67.0
Danilo Petrucci     @81.00

I bet on V. Rossi at quote@4

Yes I also bet on Valentino Rossi. Perhaps the race later Jorge Lorenzo will not be too fight for the next season he will move to Ducati. The match yesterday he was not really a fight in my opinion. While Marc Marquez in the last two games he made a mistake and went down, I'm sure he will not be too fight because he has to make sure the world champion.

[Dux2K]

Who win the last Gp  of Valencia?

Marquez Marc      @2.6
Valentino Rossi    @4.0
Jorge Lorenzo      @6.0
Maverick Vinales  @9.0
Andrea Dovizioso @11.0
Andrea Iannone   @11.0
Cal Crutchlow      @13.0
Dani Pedrosa       @13.0
Aleix Espargaro    @34.0
Hector Barbera     @67.0
Danilo Petrucci     @81.00

I bet on V. Rossi at quote@4

Yes I also bet on Valentino Rossi. Perhaps the race later Jorge Lorenzo will not be too fight for the next season he will move to Ducati. The match yesterday he was not really a fight in my opinion. While Marc Marquez in the last two games he made a mistake and went down, I'm sure he will not be too fight because he has to make sure the world champion.

I have sone feeling for vinales he will e good on this race in top 3 for sure

[azguard]

For this weekend we will have last race in MOTOGP this season and another good race in Formula1 one
Most intersting will be in Formula one if Rosberg wins then he is champ