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Not good race for Vettel,  bad tactics was problem and shame that Alonso got hit at start after that he didn't find the rhythm.

What were the bad tactics done by Sebastian Vettel and his team? Please explain it more to us so we can understand what really happened. I also thought Sebastian was the sure winner of the race but Lewis managed his tires very well and took it until the end of the race.

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American motorcycle racer Nicky Hayden (35 years old)  is reportedly in serious condition after being hit by a car while training on his bicycle in Italy in Rimini Yesterday.
Hayden won the world motogp championship in 2006 and currently runs in Superbike.

[Dux2K]

American motorcycle racer Nicky Hayden (35 years old)  is reportedly in serious condition after being hit by a car while training on his bicycle in Italy in Rimini Yesterday.
Hayden won the world motogp championship in 2006 and currently runs in Superbike.

Yea word or news is that he is still in coma. Hope he will be well and will woke up and that he will return to the track.

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We will have HJC Helmets Grand Prix de France from 19 May - 21 May in MotoGP, but this will be in shadow due to car crash on Hayden in Italy.
Sorry that he is in the hospital. This is sad at the moment but hope he will regain conscience and will return to driving in Super Bike this season.

[Dux2K]

Full Qualifying results for France motogp

1.   Maverick Viñales   ESP   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   1m   31.994s   [Lap 7/8]   303km/h (Top Speed) 
2.   Valentino Rossi   ITA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   1m   32.100s    +0.106s   [8/8]   302km/h
3.   Johann Zarco   FRA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)*   1m   32.229s    +0.235s   [6/6]   300km/h 
4.   Cal Crutchlow   GBR   LCR Honda (RC213V)   1m   32.300s    +0.306s   [8/8]   303km/h 
5.   Marc Marquez   ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   1m   32.493s    +0.499s   [8/9]   301km/h 
6.   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17)   1m   32.726s    +0.732s   [7/7]   308km/h 
7.   Scott Redding   GBR   Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP16)   1m   33.119s    +1.125s   [3/7]   307km/h 
8.   Pol Espargaro   ESP   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16)   1m   33.399s    +1.405s   [7/7]   302km/h 
9.   Karel Abraham   CZE   Pull&Bear Aspar Team (Desmosedici GP15)   1m   33.517s    +1.523s   [8/8]   304km/h 
10.   Bradley Smith   GBR   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16)   1m   33.629s    +1.635s   [4/9]   296km/h 
11.   Jack Miller   AUS   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)   1m   33.756s    +1.762s   [3/5]   299km/h 
12.   Loris Baz   FRA   Reale Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP15)   1m   33.955s    +1.961s   [3/5]   299km/h 
13.   Dani Pedrosa   ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   1m   32.415s   305km/h   
14.   Alvaro Bautista   ESP   Pull&Bear Aspar Team (Desmosedici GP16)   1m   32.484s   306km/h   
15.   Jonas Folger   GER   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)*   1m   32.695s   302km/h   
16.   Jorge Lorenzo   ESP   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17)   1m   32.830s   305km/h   
17.   Andrea Iannone   ITA   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   1m   32.844s   304km/h   
18.   Aleix Espargaro   ESP   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   1m   33.187s   301km/h   
19.   Danilo Petrucci   ITA   Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP17)   1m   33.231s   303km/h   
20.   Hector Barbera   ESP   Reale Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP16)   1m   33.233s   311km/h   
21.   Sam Lowes   GBR   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)*   1m   33.817s   297km/h   
22.   Tito Rabat   ESP   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)   1m   33.875s   303km/h   
23.   Sylvain Guintoli   FRA   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   1m   34.082s   304km/h   

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Who wins French gp (Le Mans)?

Vinales       @2.20
Rossi          @3.00
Marquez     @5.00
Zarco         @6.00
Crutchlow @17.00
Dovizioso @30.00
Pedrosa   @30.00


Today Valentino Rossi will try to win the race without making any calculation, because he wants to dedicate the victory to his friend Hayden in very bad conditions

[bajing]

Full Qualifying results for France motogp

1.   Maverick Viñales   ESP   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   1m   31.994s   [Lap 7/8]   303km/h (Top Speed)
2.   Valentino Rossi   ITA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   1m   32.100s    +0.106s   [8/8]   302km/h
3.   Johann Zarco   FRA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)*   1m   32.229s    +0.235s   [6/6]   300km/h
4.   Cal Crutchlow   GBR   LCR Honda (RC213V)   1m   32.300s    +0.306s   [8/8]   303km/h
5.   Marc Marquez   ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   1m   32.493s    +0.499s   [8/9]   301km/h
6.   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17)   1m   32.726s    +0.732s   [7/7]   308km/h
7.   Scott Redding   GBR   Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP16)   1m   33.119s    +1.125s   [3/7]   307km/h
8.   Pol Espargaro   ESP   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16)   1m   33.399s    +1.405s   [7/7]   302km/h
9.   Karel Abraham   CZE   Pull&Bear Aspar Team (Desmosedici GP15)   1m   33.517s    +1.523s   [8/8]   304km/h
10.   Bradley Smith   GBR   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16)   1m   33.629s    +1.635s   [4/9]   296km/h
11.   Jack Miller   AUS   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)   1m   33.756s    +1.762s   [3/5]   299km/h
12.   Loris Baz   FRA   Reale Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP15)   1m   33.955s    +1.961s   [3/5]   299km/h
13.   Dani Pedrosa   ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   1m   32.415s   305km/h   
14.   Alvaro Bautista   ESP   Pull&Bear Aspar Team (Desmosedici GP16)   1m   32.484s   306km/h   
15.   Jonas Folger   GER   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)*   1m   32.695s   302km/h   
16.   Jorge Lorenzo   ESP   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17)   1m   32.830s   305km/h   
17.   Andrea Iannone   ITA   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   1m   32.844s   304km/h   
18.   Aleix Espargaro   ESP   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   1m   33.187s   301km/h   
19.   Danilo Petrucci   ITA   Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP17)   1m   33.231s   303km/h   
20.   Hector Barbera   ESP   Reale Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP16)   1m   33.233s   311km/h   
21.   Sam Lowes   GBR   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)*   1m   33.817s   297km/h   
22.   Tito Rabat   ESP   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)   1m   33.875s   303km/h   
23.   Sylvain Guintoli   FRA   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   1m   34.082s   304km/h   

Seen this season march marquez performance decreased from the previous season, i dont know why we not get start from pole 1-3 because i read in the news at Q1 he became the fastest racer. honestly bad to see maverick can made a surpised after he disappeared in some race.

[Dux2K]

Great race best so far shame for Rossi and Marquez but race was fenomenal.  Hope to see more races like this.

[Dux2K]

Full race results for France motogp

1.   Maverick Viñales   ESP   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   43m   29.793s   
2.   Johann Zarco   FRA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)*   43m   32.927s   
3.   Dani Pedrosa   ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   43m   37.510s   
4.   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17)   43m   41.016s   
5.   Cal Crutchlow   GBR   LCR Honda (RC213V)   43m   43.312s   
6.   Jorge Lorenzo   ESP   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17)   43m   53.795s   
7.   Jonas Folger   GER   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)*   43m   55.526s   
8.   Jack Miller   AUS   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)   44m   2.396s   
9.   Loris Baz   FRA   Reale Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP15)   44m   15.577s   
10.   Andrea Iannone   ITA   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   44m   18.125s   
11.   Tito Rabat   ESP   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)   44m   19.829s   
12.   Pol Espargaro   ESP   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16)   44m   22.454s   
13.   Bradley Smith   GBR   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16)   44m   22.972s   
14.   Sam Lowes   GBR   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)*   44m   25.225s   
15.   Sylvain Guintoli   FRA   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   44m   36.671s   
Valentino Rossi   ITA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   DNF   
Aleix Espargaro   ESP   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   DNF   
Marc Marquez   ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   DNF   
Danilo Petrucci   ITA   Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP17)   DNF   
Scott Redding   GBR   Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP16)   DNF   
Karel Abraham   CZE   Pull&Bear Aspar Team (Desmosedici GP15)   DNF   
Hector Barbera   ESP   Reale Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP16)   DNF   
Alvaro Bautista   ESP   Pull&Bear Aspar Team (Desmosedici GP16)   DNF   

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Best race of the season in MotoGp so far. Shame was crashes from Rossi and Marquez, but Rossi really wanted to win here and he pushes little over the edge, also would like to mentioned that Marquez did something that is not allowed he return bike in opposite direction hat is not allowed by MotoGP rules. Now we have to see if he will get punished for this for next race 5 spots in grid for next race.

[ArdiPrabowo]

Full race results for France motogp

1.   Maverick Viñales   ESP   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   43m   29.793s   
2.   Johann Zarco   FRA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)*   43m   32.927s   
3.   Dani Pedrosa   ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   43m   37.510s   
4.   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17)   43m   41.016s   
5.   Cal Crutchlow   GBR   LCR Honda (RC213V)   43m   43.312s   
6.   Jorge Lorenzo   ESP   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17)   43m   53.795s   
7.   Jonas Folger   GER   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)*   43m   55.526s   
8.   Jack Miller   AUS   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)   44m   2.396s   
9.   Loris Baz   FRA   Reale Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP15)   44m   15.577s   
10.   Andrea Iannone   ITA   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   44m   18.125s   
11.   Tito Rabat   ESP   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)   44m   19.829s   
12.   Pol Espargaro   ESP   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16)   44m   22.454s   
13.   Bradley Smith   GBR   Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16)   44m   22.972s   
14.   Sam Lowes   GBR   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)*   44m   25.225s   
15.   Sylvain Guintoli   FRA   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   44m   36.671s   
Valentino Rossi   ITA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   DNF   
Aleix Espargaro   ESP   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   DNF   
Marc Marquez   ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   DNF   
Danilo Petrucci   ITA   Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP17)   DNF   
Scott Redding   GBR   Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP16)   DNF   
Karel Abraham   CZE   Pull&Bear Aspar Team (Desmosedici GP15)   DNF   
Hector Barbera   ESP   Reale Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP16)   DNF   
Alvaro Bautista   ESP   Pull&Bear Aspar Team (Desmosedici GP16)   DNF   

iam very sad valentino rossi crash in last lap
i thin rossi is very old, is not compatible to wold championship, is only win race i think rossi can win, but if word championship not campatible

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Best race of the season in MotoGp so far. Shame was crashes from Rossi and Marquez, but Rossi really wanted to win here and he pushes little over the edge, also would like to mentioned that Marquez did something that is not allowed he return bike in opposite direction hat is not allowed by MotoGP rules. Now we have to see if he will get punished for this for next race 5 spots in grid for next race.

It has been a fantastic race, and we have to compliment Valentino Rossi (38 years old) who has tried to win in every way. He was unlucky to fall but he proved to be still a champion.

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One very sad new Nicky Hayden pass away today due to crash last week when car hit him while riding a bicycle.



RIP Nicky Hayden: 1981-2017

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The most prestigeous race of the year is this weekend guys.  The Monaco GP 2017.  It's been a pretty close fight between Vettel and Hamilton so far, so let's see who edges who out this weekend.

2017 Monaco GP Timetable
All times are local (Monaco is GMT +2)

Thursday May 26
10:00 – 11:30: First free practice
14:00 – 15:30: Second free practice
16:00: FIA press conference

Saturday May 27
11:00 – 12:00: Third free practice
14:00 – 15:00: Qualifying
15:00: FIA post qualifying press conference

Sunday May 28
14:00 – 16:00: Monaco GP
16:00: FIA post race press conference

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The most prestigeous race of the year is this weekend guys.  The Monaco GP 2017.  It's been a pretty close fight between Vettel and Hamilton so far, so let's see who edges who out this weekend.

2017 Monaco GP Timetable
All times are local (Monaco is GMT +2)

Thursday May 26
10:00 – 11:30: First free practice
14:00 – 15:30: Second free practice
16:00: FIA press conference

Saturday May 27
11:00 – 12:00: Third free practice
14:00 – 15:00: Qualifying
15:00: FIA post qualifying press conference

Sunday May 28
14:00 – 16:00: Monaco GP
16:00: FIA post race press conference

One of best races in formula1 calendar by me. Where its not that important car but the driver is key. Skilled drivers have good chances here if the take good position remember last year it was Alonso in Honda that was keeping Nico until race is over. Shame is that he wont be here cuz he is driving Indy 500 this weekend to. Also Button who will replace him for this race is hopping to see 5th Monaco finish in point.

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One very sad new Nicky Hayden pass away today due to crash last week when car hit him while riding a bicycle.



RIP Nicky Hayden: 1981-2017

I'm really sorry for Hayden. He was a great rider and also a good and nice guy. Rip Nicky

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Here are the first 10 times of the free practice of the Monaco Gp:

1 Sebastian Vettel  Ferrari      gap       1’12″720
2 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull  +00″487   1’13″207
3 Kimi Raikkonen   Ferrari   +00″563   1’13″283
4 Daniil Kvyat    Toro Rosso +00″611   1’13″331  
5 Carlos Sainz   Toro Rosso  +00″680   1’13″400 
6 Max Verstappen  Red Bull  +00″766   1’13″486
7 Sergio Perez  Force India    +01″079  1’13″799
8 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes    +01″153  1’13″873
9 Kevin Magnussen  Haas       +01″170  1’13″890
10 Valtteri Bottas  Mercedes   +01″182   1’13″902


New track record for Vettel, the first driver under 1'13"00.

Surprisingly the Toro Rosso, Mercedes seems to be in trouble

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Here are the first 10 times of the free practice of the Monaco Gp:

FP2 Timesheet
1 Sebastian Vettel  Ferrari      gap       1’12″720
2 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull  +00″487   1’13″207
3 Kimi Raikkonen   Ferrari   +00″563   1’13″283
4 Daniil Kvyat    Toro Rosso +00″611   1’13″331  
5 Carlos Sainz   Toro Rosso  +00″680   1’13″400 
6 Max Verstappen  Red Bull  +00″766   1’13″486
7 Sergio Perez  Force India    +01″079  1’13″799
8 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes    +01″153  1’13″873
9 Kevin Magnussen  Haas       +01″170  1’13″890
10 Valtteri Bottas  Mercedes   +01″182   1’13″902


New track record for Vettel, the first driver under 1'13"00.

Surprisingly the Toro Rosso, Mercedes seems to be in trouble

Those are the results of FP2 btw, just to make things clear to those who missed it.  And Hamiltion edged out Vettel in FP1.  I'm not sure what tire choices were used by the Mercedes in FP2 but I read that Vettel switched to ultrasofts and that's when he broke the 1'13 barrier.

Here are the results of FP1

FP1 Timesheet
1    HAM    Mercedes    00:01:13.425
2    VET    Ferrari    00:01:13.621
3    VPN    Red Bull    00:01:13.771
4    BOT    Mercedes    00:01:13.791
5    RIC    Red Bull    00:01:13.854
6    KVY    Toro Rosso    00:01:14.111
7    RAI    Ferrari    00:01:14.164
8    PER    Force India    00:01:14.201
9    SAI    Toro Rosso    00:01:14.333
10    OCO    Force India    00:01:14.425
11    MAS    Williams    00:01:14.617
12    VAN    McLaren    00:01:14.813
13    MAG    Haas F1    00:01:14.870
14    BUT    McLaren    00:01:14.954
15    GRO    Haas F1    00:01:15.321
16    STR    Williams    00:01:15.595
17    PAL    Renault    00:01:15.949
18    WEH    Sauber    00:01:16.258
19    HUL    Renault  No time
20    ERI    Sauber    No time

[Jackkyy]

Overall, the differences are not big at all, and even McLaren Stallone Vanderne and Jensen Button, who replaced Fernando Alonso, are less than 1.3 seconds behind. Mercedes will improve their performance and gain qualifications

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who will win the gp of Monaco?

Vettel       @2
Hamilton   @3
Bottas       @11
Ricciardo    @11
Raikkonen  @17
Verstappen @20
Sainz          @50

Vettel seems to be the big favorite after making the track record.
If he starts pole position and defends his first place after departure he has great chances to win this gp