Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM.....

[bbc.reporter]

@swogerino. It might be team incompetence. The drivers were only unlucky to be in the team in a period where they cannot produce a winning car. Also, why did James Allison leave for personal reasons and only to return not to Ferrari but to join Mercedes?

[swogerino]

@swogerino. It might be team incompetence. The drivers were only unlucky to be in the team in a period where they cannot produce a winning car. Also, why did James Allison leave for personal reasons and only to return not to Ferrari but to join Mercedes?

Maybe you are right, even Mclaren is suffering from team incompetence but teams like Ferrari ,McLaren and Williams are the biggest names in F1 history so I hope they will be back stronger than ever and we will see a truly competitive F1 Championship that is been years missing in F1.

[slocker]

@swogerino. It might be team incompetence. The drivers were only unlucky to be in the team in a period where they cannot produce a winning car. Also, why did James Allison leave for personal reasons and only to return not to Ferrari but to join Mercedes?

Maybe you are right, even Mclaren is suffering from team incompetence but teams like Ferrari ,McLaren and Williams are the biggest names in F1 history so I hope they will be back stronger than ever and we will see a truly competitive F1 Championship that is been years missing in F1.

Probably true. Ferrari is nothing since Schumacher left. This is something that we will all agree. But thing this season McLaren starting to look promising after so many years in the dark. But think that they will need to produce good car on this I mean more aerodynamic. Rb is good on this they dont have speed but they produce excellent car on this.

Williams is near bankrupt so I dont think we will see them next year if they dont score one point.

[Naida_BR]

I predict Sebastian will not be extending his contract in Ferrari after maybe retire. It is now very clear that there is nothing for him in that team.

However, maybe he might come back and reunite with Christian Horner and Adrian Newey in Redbull and become a championship team again hehehehe.

After the recent even in Canada and the disappointment that he had with FIA's decision, another option is to see him driving in the WRC rally next season. Nothing is impossible 

[maculeth]

can valentino rossi bounce back at MOTOGP CATALUNYA SPAIN 2019?
after what he experienced in the mugello race last week ...

[mich]

Is there any sporstbook that will offer In game betting for these races?
Motor sports is the type of sport where it is easier to predict thew winners after the race has already started
I believe this to be this reason alone why you dont see very many In game betting options for it.

[Naida_BR]

Is there any sporstbook that will offer In game betting for these races?
Motor sports is the type of sport where it is easier to predict thew winners after the race has already started
I believe this to be this reason alone why you dont see very many In game betting options for it.

Personally I don't know if there is any sportsbook on the blockchain that would allow you bet on motorsports.
Having said that, try gambling on bet365, I think it gives you live betting options. However, the odds are very low.

[slocker]

can valentino rossi bounce back at MOTOGP CATALUNYA SPAIN 2019?
after what he experienced in the mugello race last week ...

Nope. Race was good until Lorenco made crash and knock out 2 Yamaha's drivers and one Ducati. Shame race start predict that it could be maybe 6-7 people race to win but after Lorenco made mistake it end up again to be Marques race for win. Maybe next race will bring little more excitement into this.

[maculeth]

can valentino rossi bounce back at MOTOGP CATALUNYA SPAIN 2019?
after what he experienced in the mugello race last week ...

Nope. Race was good until Lorenco made crash and knock out 2 Yamaha's drivers and one Ducati. Shame race start predict that it could be maybe 6-7 people race to win but after Lorenco made mistake it end up again to be Marques race for win. Maybe next race will bring little more excitement into this.

yes ... in any race it can happen, maybe also if Lorenzo doesn't make a mistake, it will definitely be more exciting, and hope vr46 gets the podium, the next race hopefully will be even better,

[slocker]

can valentino rossi bounce back at MOTOGP CATALUNYA SPAIN 2019?
after what he experienced in the mugello race last week ...

Nope. Race was good until Lorenco made crash and knock out 2 Yamaha's drivers and one Ducati. Shame race start predict that it could be maybe 6-7 people race to win but after Lorenco made mistake it end up again to be Marques race for win. Maybe next race will bring little more excitement into this.

yes ... in any race it can happen, maybe also if Lorenzo doesn't make a mistake, it will definitely be more exciting, and hope vr46 gets the podium, the next race hopefully will be even better,

Well this could be better race, anyway Lorenco for this race got everything new and he was looking better then usually this season when he was struggling, but seem like to me that he had lose his edge into racing but this is something that is for him to overcome in the upcoming races.

[swogerino]

Is there any sporstbook that will offer In game betting for these races?
Motor sports is the type of sport where it is easier to predict thew winners after the race has already started
I believe this to be this reason alone why you dont see very many In game betting options for it.

I have never seen a sport betting company offer in race bets for F1 or MotoGp and even if there was one company offering these bets the odds would be very low because in F1 unless a Safety Car happen it is very easy to predict who is gonna win the race and who will be on the podium.The only difficult thing to predict is the fastest lap driver.

[bbc.reporter]

@mich. No. That is very dangerous. For the sportsbook hehehe.

@swogerino. It might be team incompetence. The drivers were only unlucky to be in the team in a period where they cannot produce a winning car. Also, why did James Allison leave for personal reasons and only to return not to Ferrari but to join Mercedes?

Maybe you are right, even Mclaren is suffering from team incompetence but teams like Ferrari ,McLaren and Williams are the biggest names in F1 history so I hope they will be back stronger than ever and we will see a truly competitive F1 Championship that is been years missing in F1.

Probably true. Ferrari is nothing since Schumacher left. This is something that we will all agree. But thing this season McLaren starting to look promising after so many years in the dark. But think that they will need to produce good car on this I mean more aerodynamic. Rb is good on this they dont have speed but they produce excellent car on this.

Williams is near bankrupt so I dont think we will see them next year if they dont score one point.

The improved results and the possibility of success in McClaren's 2018 restructure might show on 2020. That is what they are hyping according to some articles.

In any case, can Ferrari again beat Mercedes during qualifying in France?

[slocker]

The improved results and the possibility of success in McClaren's 2018 restructure might show on 2020. That is what they are hyping according to some articles.

In any case, can Ferrari again beat Mercedes during qualifying in France?

Maybe this time, and for McClaren it this is corrent i sure they will be good in next season. Many improvement so far are good for them considering that they are among teams that are in fight for this 4th position in constructors championship Im pretty sure they will do some good job even this season. Car is stable and this is maybe biggest step for them so far.

[swogerino]

The improved results and the possibility of success in McClaren's 2018 restructure might show on 2020. That is what they are hyping according to some articles.

In any case, can Ferrari again beat Mercedes during qualifying in France?

Maybe this time, and for McClaren it this is corrent i sure they will be good in next season. Many improvement so far are good for them considering that they are among teams that are in fight for this 4th position in constructors championship Im pretty sure they will do some good job even this season. Car is stable and this is maybe biggest step for them so far.

We are all waiting for their comeback together with Williams as they are teams that have written F1 history during the years of racing.I doubt they will come back as soon as next year as I think the Renault engine will be a limiting factor.

I find it difficult why Mclaren do not build an engine of their own,they will suffer in the beginning but I am sure they will sort things out with an engine of their own in the long run.

[Juggy777]

The improved results and the possibility of success in McClaren's 2018 restructure might show on 2020. That is what they are hyping according to some articles.

In any case, can Ferrari again beat Mercedes during qualifying in France?

McLaren has a long way to go before they can challenge for titles, I don’t think we’ll see any title challenge from them in 2020. Ferrari will not be beating Mercedes as they’re lacking confidence and luck, I feel Mercedes shall win this race too. What Ferrari needs to do is replace their technical team and their drivers, it’s simply not working out for them.

[slocker]

Time will tell. In any case it would be great to see all teams to be equals but this not possible. Some shown improvement but some are on thin ice of survive. What will happen remains to be seen. But would be shame to see Williams go down.

[Naida_BR]

Where are the Vettel fans now?
Should we blame Hamilton or FIA for that 7 position on the grid? 😂
Amazing performance from McLaren which both drivers made it to 5th and 6th place.

[slocker]

Qualifying result for France GP

1   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Motorsport   + 0.059s   + 0.083s   1m28.319s
2   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Mercedes AMG Petronas Motorsport   1m30.550s   1m29.437s   + 0.286s
3   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   + 0.097s   + 0.262s   + 0.646s
4   Max Verstappen   NED   Aston Martin Red Bull Racing Honda   + 0.777s   + 0.662s   + 1.090s
5   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   + 0.439s   + 0.582s   + 1.099s
6   Carlos Sainz   ESP   McLaren F1 Team   + 0.523s   + 0.882s   + 1.203s
7   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Scuderia Ferrari   + 0.525s   + 0.069s   + 1.480s
8   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   Renault F1 Team   + 0.404s   + 0.932s   + 1.599s
9   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Aston Martin Red Bull Racing Honda   + 0.602s   + 0.984s   + 1.865s
10   Antonio Giovinazzi   ITA   Alfa Romeo Racing   + 0.630s   + 0.971s   + 5.101s
11   Alexander Albon   THA   Red Bull Toro Rosso Honda   + 0.895s   + 1.024s   
12   Kimi Raikkonen   ITA   Alfa Romeo Racing   + 0.422s   + 1.096s   
13   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   Renault F1 Team   + 0.315s   + 1.107s   
14   Sergio Perez   MEX   SportPesa Racing Point F1 Team   + 0.414s   + 1.301s   
15   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Rich Energy Haas F1 Team   + 0.616s   + 2.003s   
16   Daniil Kvyat   RUS   Red Bull Toro Rosso Honda   + 1.014s       
17   Romain Grosjean   FRA   Rich Energy Haas F1 Team   + 1.076s       
18   Lance Stroll   CAN   SportPesa Racing Point F1 Team   + 1.176s       
19   George Russell   GBR   ROKiT Williams Racing   + 2.239s       
20   Robert Kubica   POL   ROKiT Williams Racing   + 2.655s

[babygun]

I have the feeling that we know already who will the world champion this season  . I don't see anyone that can really challenge Hamilton

[jademaxsuy]

@swogerino. It might be team incompetence. The drivers were only unlucky to be in the team in a period where they cannot produce a winning car. Also, why did James Allison leave for personal reasons and only to return not to Ferrari but to join Mercedes?

All of the cars has their own reputation. This may not be because the car or a team has not won in a match it does not mean that the team is incompetent. It only means that they are still learning on areas where they are weak. A successful team or with good drivers does not start at the moment they join a race. This is where adjustments being made and as a driver how to manage a different car with different specs.