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December 18, 2016, 03:02:55 PM
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  About $99,900,000
 

lol. and how much have they raised?
  The current market cap is around 100k but trying to raise 100 million...
  I really like the Idea of Bitland and their objective... I really am unsure about some of the market activity but at this price it pretty much priced as a scam. I bought some cheap so I guess time will tell

Im going to buy a few too. Let's see where this goes.

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December 18, 2016, 07:52:01 PM
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  About $99,900,000
 

lol. and how much have they raised?
  The current market cap is around 100k but trying to raise 100 million...
  I really like the Idea of Bitland and their objective... I really am unsure about some of the market activity but at this price it pretty much priced as a scam. I bought some cheap so I guess time will tell

Im going to buy a few too. Let's see where this goes.
  Good luck and may the force be with you
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December 19, 2016, 08:52:54 PM
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Any updates on Dec 15 event?
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December 19, 2016, 10:10:55 PM
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Jesus christ...why would you "invest" in a token, then say it's priced as a scam...what is wrong with you people?

I can't understand why the hell people would say they are invested in something, and then 10 months after the project is clearly not scamming anyone, after the fucking DAO debacle and all the nonsense that is going around, you still double talk about the project?

What the hell is wrong with you?

https://cointelegraph.com/news/larry-bates-of-bitland-bitcoins-problems-are-caused-by-libertarian-and-anarchist-rhetorics

A proper understanding of cryptocurrencies will eliminate hype and anti-government rhetorics, thereby attracting major players into the industry, says Larry Christopher Bates of BitLand.

He believes that there has come a time when some big names within the FinTech industry are beginning to discuss Blockchain in a more serious manner and seem prepared to walk the walk:

“I believe the disappearance of anti-government rhetoric has a lot to do with the involvement of big institutions.”

Bitcoin was hurt by rhetoric

Bates says that the problem was that 90 percent of crypto was libertarian/anarchist who had the worst possible rhetoric to be associated with the technology. Now that more pragmatic rhetoric is surrounding the technology, big companies are starting to see its potential.

Considering the political reluctance on matters concerning Blockchain and its associated elements, it is not strange to assume that these institutional participants may just be shy in their claims of peculiarity.

Bates says that before this time, a lot of anarchists and libertarians hyped the Blockchain to be the replacement for governments and banks, a phenomenon that, according to him, is simply not feasible. According to Bates, that rhetoric is too detached from reality. He gives the example of M-Pesa, which is gaining more traction within the African continent over Bitcoin.

Blaming evangelists

Bates blames the evangelists and hardcore Bitcoin people for most of the problems and resistance encountered by the digital currency, saying that now that they aren't dominating the conversation and shouting down criticisms of Bitcoin, financial institutions can hear legitimate arguments for the technology.

Bates emphasizes that Blockchain is not needed in every part of the economy. He notes that SQL works better than Blockchain for many business operations, in which case he says that the community is getting closer to the real use cases that make sense in the real world as all of the hype is fizzling for good data.

An example that Bates considers is the successes recorded by M-Pesa, having reduced poverty by two percent in Kenya:

“There are legitimate data sets to show the benefits of mobile money, and you don't actually need Blockchain to do mobile money as M-Pesa has shown.”

Bates concludes by saying that the digital currency community needs to stop the hype, do due diligence and stop treating crypto like a get rich quick scheme. He says that many people claim to be in it for liberating the working class, but when pressed on their views, they just want to make money:

“That is a dangerous culture that could kill digital currency by making all crypto seem like pyramid schemes, and many of them were just pyramid schemes. People need to really have a fundamental understanding of where the value is derived before they get anywhere near crypto. Presently, there is insufficient macro/micro knowledge in the field, too much techno jargon and not enough economic understanding.”


I just went to fucking Kenya and spoke with government officials, and you are saying this nonsense as if it doesn't happen because you can't do fucking due diligence?

This shit is frustrating as all hell.

Worst."Investor".Ever

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December 19, 2016, 10:16:36 PM
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I am so baffled by the people who claim to be believers that will simultaneously talk as if they have no clue if anything is actually happening.




http://blockchainworkshops.org/kenya/


Main thing that happened with this is that we made contact with IBM and M-Pesa, presented in front of them and many officials from the Kenyan government.

Also, there were a couple Mauritian government officials at the conference there to advocate for Bitland to other people attending the conference as well.

http://blockchainworkshops.org/kenya/speaker/atma-narasiah/


http://blockchainworkshops.org/kenya/speaker/sanjeev-manrakhan/

Atma and Sanjeev are some of Bitland's biggest supporters.

"Satyananda Narasiah is currently Head of Department – Innovation, Technology and Services at the Board of Investment Mauritius which is the national investment promotion agency of the Government of Mauritius with the mandate to promote and facilitate investment in the country. He has been involved in the ICT industry for more than 29 years assuming key senior management roles in leading Mauritian ICT companies like Mauritius Telecom, State Informatics Ltd and ContinuityMauritius. He started his career as Development Engineer at the R&D department of Schindler Aufzuege AG, Switzerland."

These are not insignificant officials that I am meeting with.

There are a lot of things happening. 

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December 19, 2016, 10:20:33 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Board_of_Investment_(Mauritius)

"The Board of Investment (BOI) is the national investment promotion agency of the Government of Mauritius with the mandate to promote and facilitate investment in the country. It is the first point of contact for investors exploring business opportunities in Mauritius and the region. BOI also assists investors in the growth, nurturing and diversification of their business.

With a view to facilitating the implementation of investment projects and, more importantly, to continuously improve the investment and business climate, BOI works in close collaboration with Government bodies, institutions and private sector companies. Mauritius capitalized on the sale of strategic coastal land to foreigners through the Property Development Scheme programmes of the Board of Investment.[1]

BOI has an important role of policy advocacy to continuously improve the competitiveness of Mauritius.

The Board of Investment accompanies investors looking at opportunities in Africa.

The Board of Investment (BOI) has been awarded the prestigious ISO 9001:2008 Quality Management Certification on 3 December 2013."


https://steemit.com/bitland/@yasemin-gencer/bitland-global-visits-mauritius-and-presses-forward-operations-in-kenya-and-botswana

12 September 2016 (Bloomington, Indiana): Bitland Global co-founder and chief security officer Chris Bates is traveling to Mauritius this week to meet with the nation’s Board of Investment in Ebene-Cybercity. On 15 September Mr. Bates will participate in the board-sponsored Blockchain Seminar and present the Bitland project and its Ghana pilot. On 16 September Mr. Bates will participate in a Working Session in Port Louis to discuss the practical applications of blockchain technology in government with the Mauritian Ministry of Technology, Communication, and Innovation, local entrepreneurs, and fintech start-ups. Afterwards a roundtable including the guest speakers will assemble with representatives from the Board of Investment for a special program on the National Mauritius Broadcasting Corporation (MBCtv) to air at 18:30.

Bitland is also excited to report that its new partnership with Brookside SMS, a local short messaging system based in Kenya, is already producing fruits! This alliance has accelerated the establishment of the first Bitland Kenya location to open in Nairobi. Furthermore, the Kenyan government has agreed to make recently digitized land titles available for Bitland to register on both the Bitland blockchain and the TAO Network blockchain—providing two extra layers of security for the preservation of these vital records. Recent developments in Kenya include the dissolving of their land administration due to corruption.

Bitland Global expands further, this time into southern Africa, with plans to open a land title registration hub in Botswana. Partnering with Botswana’s leading Bitcoin enthusiast and non-profit entrepreneur, Alakanani Itireleng, Bitland looks forward to cooperating with the Ministry of Lands and Housing to register existing digitized land titles on the secure blockchains of Bitland and the TAO Network.

Visit the Bitland Global website at http://www.bitland.world/ for more information.



It takes time to work with governments.

Things are moving EXTREMELY fast by all measures.

The above article is from September.  The Mauritian government is already traveling around Africa advocating for Blockchain as you can see from the workshop.

I am not sure if people get what happens when you convince a small, but capital rich government to push for Blockchain acceptance.

Other governments listen.

http://www.mcbgroup.com/en/news/2016/2016-09-20-G-40-African-bankers-discuss-collaboration-in-Mauritius

Port Louis, 19th September 2016: The Mauritius Commercial Bank Group (MCB) hosts 40 top executives representing 40 African banks at the week-long 2016 Africa Forward Together conference which opened this morning at the five-star Ravenala Attitude Hotel. Africa Forward Together (AFT) is an annual event organised by MCB since 2009 to showcase its “Bank of Banks” initiative. Since its inception, 351 delegates representing 108 financial institutions and representing 27 countries have attended the conference, which also aims at fostering better understanding and mutual cooperation between African banks.

Main focus
Opening the conference, MCB Group Chief Executive, Pierre Guy Noel said: “Africa remains our main focus for growth. There are plenty of things we can do in Africa and loads we can achieve together”. African banks can leverage MCB’s unique position in the region. Established since 1838, MCB is a strong regional leader, currently ranked first in East Africa and 17th among African banks according to The Banker.

The Bank of Banks
« Bank of Banks » aims at positioning MCB as a regional platform offering bundled banking and financial industry capabilities to its counterparts. Bankers attending the Africa Forward Together event get first-hand knowledge of MCB’s human expertise and technological capabilities while exploring collaboration possibilities that could allow them to boost their services through outsourcing in Mauritius.

Over the last few years, an increasing number of African banks have teamed up with MCB to serve their customers better and more efficiently. Some have managed to offer new services to their customers in record times without investing heavily in technology or human resources. Others have discovered opportunities to expand their businesses through intelligent collaboration with one of Africa’s leading banks.

A true partner
The « Bank of Banks » initiative is a key component of MCB’s African growth strategy. Instead of opening outlets across the continent and competing with local banks, MCB prefers to position itself as a privileged partner for institutions that want to scale new heights. As Africa gradually fulfils its promises and realizes its enormous potential, the continent’s banks are facing new challenges and have to meet growing and changing customer needs.

Summing up the challenges Africa has to face, Raoul Gufflet, Deputy Chief Executive, MCB, insisted on the fact that Africa is at a crossroad where it has to choose the right way forward. “This is where MCB fits in. AFT is not solely meant to showcase MCB’s value proposition but to explore new avenues of collaboration and sharing between African banks. AFT is about you, about your objectives and goals and what you would like to put into practice,” Raoul Gufflet, Deputy Chief Executive of MCB, told African bankers today.

Adding value to banking
MCB offers a full range of value added services to banks. This includes the issuance of documentary credits, international payments, management of cards services and electronic banking, internal auditing, risk management, non-banking financial services, custody services, SWIFT transfers and consulting services among others. By leveraging MCB’s world-class expertise, rich experience and state-of-the-art technology, other banks have an opportunity to speed up their development while delighting their customers. Raoul Gufflet also indicated that MCB intends to expand its Private Banking arm in Africa.

A regional leader
Established in 1838, MCB is today the largest bank in East Africa and the 17h biggest on the continent. It is a blue chip on the Stock Exchange of Mauritius where it accounts for nearly a quarter of market capitalisation. Its strategy is to continuously diversify its services and its markets. To date, MCB’s international operations account for 55% of its results. It is currently present in Mauritius, South Africa, Kenya, Seychelles, Madagascar, Maldives, Réunion, Mayotte and France through a network of branches, associate companies and representative offices. It also has a vibrant network of correspondent banks across Africa and the rest of the world.

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December 19, 2016, 10:34:49 PM
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It is hilarious to me to see after a summer where a ton of people threw away $160 million for such a joke of a failed investment in crypto, that Bitland is still getting questioned after making contact with so many government officials at this point.  You would think people might start asking HOW we are actually doing it instead of if it's a goddamn "scam" at this point.

Whatever though...This is NOT "due diligence" people.  I WANT you to do due diligence about this project and find out just how much we have actually been doing over the past year with barely any money.

http://www.bitland.world/oracle/presspackage.php


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https://steemit.com/bitland/@chris-bates/blockchain-101-bitland-explained

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December 20, 2016, 01:56:57 AM
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  I am in no way calling this a scam. I have no reason to doubt what you are saying other than a few disgruntled people from past projects. My belief is that if this is a scam then you would have left a long time ago. What I am saying is this Token has been discounted as if it was a scam, If it is not then I will make a lot of money.. This is at a level that would get an enormous return just if it can get back to ICO levels.
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  I am in no way calling this a scam. I have no reason to doubt what you are saying other than a few disgruntled people from past projects. My belief is that if this is a scam then you would have left a long time ago. What I am saying is this Token has been discounted as if it was a scam, If it is not then I will make a lot of money.. This is at a level that would get an enormous return just if it can get back to ICO levels.

Ah sorry!  Apologies for the misinterpretation.

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December 20, 2016, 07:33:43 AM
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This is a scam.
100% scam
Don't waste your btc

99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of all ICO's are SCAMS
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Very Scientific Analysis Smiley

LCB


Reposting again so people understand that the "Anarchist" and "Libertarian" rhetoric is no longer going to dominate this situation:

https://cointelegraph.com/news/larry-bates-of-bitland-bitcoins-problems-are-caused-by-libertarian-and-anarchist-rhetorics

Larry Bates of BitLand: Bitcoin’s Problems are Caused by Libertarian and Anarchist Rhetorics

A proper understanding of cryptocurrencies will eliminate hype and anti-government rhetorics, thereby attracting major players into the industry, says Larry Christopher Bates of BitLand.

He believes that there has come a time when some big names within the FinTech industry are beginning to discuss Blockchain in a more serious manner and seem prepared to walk the walk:

“I believe the disappearance of anti-government rhetoric has a lot to do with the involvement of big institutions.”

Bitcoin was hurt by rhetoric

Bates says that the problem was that 90 percent of crypto was libertarian/anarchist who had the worst possible rhetoric to be associated with the technology. Now that more pragmatic rhetoric is surrounding the technology, big companies are starting to see its potential.

Considering the political reluctance on matters concerning Blockchain and its associated elements, it is not strange to assume that these institutional participants may just be shy in their claims of peculiarity.

Bates says that before this time, a lot of anarchists and libertarians hyped the Blockchain to be the replacement for governments and banks, a phenomenon that, according to him, is simply not feasible. According to Bates, that rhetoric is too detached from reality. He gives the example of M-Pesa, which is gaining more traction within the African continent over Bitcoin.

Blaming evangelists

Bates blames the evangelists and hardcore Bitcoin people for most of the problems and resistance encountered by the digital currency, saying that now that they aren't dominating the conversation and shouting down criticisms of Bitcoin, financial institutions can hear legitimate arguments for the technology.

Bates emphasizes that Blockchain is not needed in every part of the economy. He notes that SQL works better than Blockchain for many business operations, in which case he says that the community is getting closer to the real use cases that make sense in the real world as all of the hype is fizzling for good data.

An example that Bates considers is the successes recorded by M-Pesa, having reduced poverty by two percent in Kenya:

“There are legitimate data sets to show the benefits of mobile money, and you don't actually need Blockchain to do mobile money as M-Pesa has shown.”

Bates concludes by saying that the digital currency community needs to stop the hype, do due diligence and stop treating crypto like a get rich quick scheme. He says that many people claim to be in it for liberating the working class, but when pressed on their views, they just want to make money:

“That is a dangerous culture that could kill digital currency by making all crypto seem like pyramid schemes, and many of them were just pyramid schemes. People need to really have a fundamental understanding of where the value is derived before they get anywhere near crypto. Presently, there is insufficient macro/micro knowledge in the field, too much techno jargon and not enough economic understanding.”




Simply put, if you don't know anything about macro or micro economics, shut the entire fuck up about Bitcoin.  You are not doing anyone any favors. Especially the Bitcoin community.

Now...can we let the adults have a conversation without the children butting in?



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https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/12/fighting-human-trafficking-tracing-blood-diamonds-and-other-surprising-uses-for-blockchain

Beyond bitcoin: 4 surprising uses for blockchain

"Registering land

Sweden is experimenting with putting its land registry system on blockchain.

The plan is to use the technology to make the details of real estate transactions visible to all parties – banks, brokers, government officials, buyers and sellers.

For developing countries, building immutable title systems on blockchain could be a means of stamping out fraud and encouraging people to record unregistered land. It might also help banks to lend against land.

In Honduras, one of the poorest countries in Latin America, US blockchain company Factom was reportedly in talks with the government in 2015 to create a decentralized database of land titles.

Meanwhile, a different initiative, Bitland, is looking at the feasibility of putting titles on blockchain in Ghana, where an estimated 78% of land is unregistered.


The Georgian government is also reported to be working with Bitcoin company BitFury on a system for registering land titles using blockchain."







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December 21, 2016, 04:23:01 PM
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https://twitter.com/tabali_tigi/status/811607689914617860


Go retweet that /\

In 2016, we have a US president that can be trolled into responding...

Troll him about Bitland, but do it with civility.

Chris

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December 22, 2016, 02:36:46 AM
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  About $99,900,000
 

lol. and how much have they raised?
  The current market cap is around 100k but trying to raise 100 million...
  I really like the Idea of Bitland and their objective... I really am unsure about some of the market activity but at this price it pretty much priced as a scam. I bought some cheap so I guess time will tell

Im going to buy a few too. Let's see where this goes.
  Good luck and may the force be with you

The force is strong. Next year this time we'll be discussing how good an idea it was to buy some bitland.

Not to mention the leak in my roof.
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December 22, 2016, 02:38:06 AM
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This is a scam.
100% scam
Don't waste your btc

Are you sure, I was going to buy some. Why do you call it a scam?

Not to mention the leak in my roof.
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  About $99,900,000
 

lol. and how much have they raised?
  The current market cap is around 100k but trying to raise 100 million...
  I really like the Idea of Bitland and their objective... I really am unsure about some of the market activity but at this price it pretty much priced as a scam. I bought some cheap so I guess time will tell

Im going to buy a few too. Let's see where this goes.
  Good luck and may the force be with you

"Rogune one made me LOL when Gold Leader show up...

BTW, Go Bitland!

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Oh, that's why, FACTOM is doing well for altcoin exchange on Polo recent days...

New Year Dream going to be a Bitland for S.Africa and so. I am happy that I both invested my BTC to Factom and Bitland!!

GO GO GO Bitland!!! Cheesy

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It is clear that the price of Cadastrals will rise only when someone starts to buy and spend it in large volumes (excluding speculation).

Chris, do you think it will start soon?
Is the approximate time of conclusion of commercial contracts?

You are spot on!

We have NOT been using hardly any of the funds to play market games.  That is why you see no "strange" activity on the charts.  Unlike MOST of the crypto projects that were out there, we had no desire to play market games and have used nearly all of the funds on ACTUAL development (like we said we would)...

Considering we just went up against IBM for a contract in Kenya...

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/ibm-looks-put-kenyas-public-records-blockchain/

Maybe it's time people stop bullshitting about supporting the project and see that we are the fucking real deal.  Everyone doesn't compete with IBM.

The reason we lost is because we can't guarantee the Kenyan government 30,000 jobs and a 5 million dollar investment into a new tech hub.

Look around.  You see how OUR community treats US.

We get skepticism and underhanded half ass support from our OWN community because they are too jaded by all the shit projects that came out of crypto.

At some point, people need to understand how government contracts work.  We're not going to get a fucking government contract after only having 100k in funding if we are going against IBM. 

That is not going to happen.  So again.

If you CALL YOURSELF a supporter of the project, STOP selling the token for shit prices, BUY SOME FUCKING TOKENS out of the buy wall, and get the fucking price off the floor.  Stop treating this like a goddamn pump and dump, and treat it like a long term investment.  Put your actions where your mouths are.

The goddamn sell wall caps the token at around $10 USD from all of the sell orders that have just been SITTING THERE for months.

DON'T PARK YOUR FUCKING TOKENS IN A SELL WALL!!!

THAT IS HORSE SHIT TRADING


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December 22, 2016, 01:17:54 PM
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I JUST get back from pitching to the Kenyan government and losing to IBM, and people still wondering if this is real or not.




FUCKING SUPPORT THE PROJECT AND WE WILL START GETTING MORE CONTRACTS...




















Good thing we have a strong relationship with Mauritius government Smiley

largest bank in east Africa and 15th largest in all Africa.

We made our first contacts strategically.

Chris

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