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June 27, 2016, 10:33:43 AM
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let's focus on the Iota launch, and agree to disagree.

agreed
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June 27, 2016, 10:37:50 AM
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Please, I am disappointed in the 'suspect trolling' argument.

Ofcourse he can sell the account + seed, why not, this deal could be made without your knowledge.

But since I am the only one that is concerned about this, I will leave it at that.

Don't give up that quick. Explain how he could sell the seed if he is obliged to send iotas from that seed? Assuming he is not going to scam his customers.
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June 27, 2016, 10:39:01 AM
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Why: because it is impossible for a third party to be 100% sure it is CH's account.


I agree with you on everything. I think those people had no right to claim for any action after acting so stupidly.

But CFB may know the account. When he settled previous trades, and asked CFB to move funds, he had to sign his BTC address that participated in the ICO or provide his iota seed, to confirm where to move funds from.
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June 27, 2016, 11:28:19 AM
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It is not about CH taking the btc, it's about the solution.
I think Davids solution is certainly a way to correct this. But I don't agree.
Why: because it is impossible for a third party to be 100% sure it is CH's account.

Without the solution it's 100% sure many people will get scammed. With the solution there's 0.1%* chance someone will get scammed.
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* If we estimate the chance CH didn't sell the seed is 99.9%
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June 27, 2016, 11:54:39 AM
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I´d be willing to buy 150,000,000,000 IOTAS for 1 BTC

please send me your offers. Escrow is mandatory...
i suggest you buy anything you can from cryptoknightt, because he is selling really cheap iotas, and even if he tries to scam, there will be bail out from the core team: so, that's a golden deal opportunity!
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June 27, 2016, 12:34:17 PM
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Given that I have done many sales I am impressed that no one has called me a scammer yet:) I would just like everyone to know that while I was foolishly one of cryptoknightt's largest buyers, I realized the potential that I was duped early on and none of my sales have come out of the batch I bought from him. Every iota I have sold I have access to and will be able to fulfill my obligations 100%, regardless of default.

@ck, I truly hope you stick to your word on our deal, and that there is a respectful human on the other end of this screen.
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June 27, 2016, 01:00:59 PM
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Please, I am disappointed in the 'suspect trolling' argument.

Ofcourse he can sell the account + seed, why not, this deal could be made without your knowledge.

But since I am the only one that is concerned about this, I will leave it at that.

Don't give up that quick. Explain how he could sell the seed if he is obliged to send iotas from that seed? Assuming he is not going to scam his customers.

Please try to act like a professional and stop making remarks like 'don't give up that quick', it's childish.
I am a customer who purchased software from a company you work for.

You can sell a password/ seed/ private key whatever. No problem.
Or do you have some additional information on CH's account that makes this impossible?
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June 27, 2016, 01:01:28 PM
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It is not about CH taking the btc, it's about the solution.
I think Davids solution is certainly a way to correct this. But I don't agree.
Why: because it is impossible for a third party to be 100% sure it is CH's account.

Without the solution it's 100% sure many people will get scammed. With the solution there's 0.1%* chance someone will get scammed.
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* If we estimate the chance CH didn't sell the seed is 99.9%

Two wrongs don't make a right.
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June 27, 2016, 01:15:49 PM
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It is not about CH taking the btc, it's about the solution.
I think Davids solution is certainly a way to correct this. But I don't agree.
Why: because it is impossible for a third party to be 100% sure it is CH's account.

Without the solution it's 100% sure many people will get scammed. With the solution there's 0.1%* chance someone will get scammed.
__________
* If we estimate the chance CH didn't sell the seed is 99.9%

Two wrongs don't make a right.

It's impossible for you to be 100% sure there are two wrongs unless you are CH or bought his seed.
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June 27, 2016, 01:21:25 PM
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It is not about CH taking the btc, it's about the solution.
I think Davids solution is certainly a way to correct this. But I don't agree.
Why: because it is impossible for a third party to be 100% sure it is CH's account.

Without the solution it's 100% sure many people will get scammed. With the solution there's 0.1%* chance someone will get scammed.
__________
* If we estimate the chance CH didn't sell the seed is 99.9%

Two wrongs don't make a right.

It's impossible for you to be 100% sure there are two wrongs unless you are CH or bought his seed.

Your logic is flawed, please rethink your comment.
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June 27, 2016, 01:25:41 PM
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It is not about CH taking the btc, it's about the solution.
I think Davids solution is certainly a way to correct this. But I don't agree.
Why: because it is impossible for a third party to be 100% sure it is CH's account.

Without the solution it's 100% sure many people will get scammed. With the solution there's 0.1%* chance someone will get scammed.
__________
* If we estimate the chance CH didn't sell the seed is 99.9%

Two wrongs don't make a right.

It's impossible for you to be 100% sure there are two wrongs unless you are CH or bought his seed.

Your logic is flawed.

Are you implying giving the stolen tokens to those who paid for them but were scammed is wrong?
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June 27, 2016, 01:34:16 PM
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It is not about CH taking the btc, it's about the solution.
I think Davids solution is certainly a way to correct this. But I don't agree.
Why: because it is impossible for a third party to be 100% sure it is CH's account.

Without the solution it's 100% sure many people will get scammed. With the solution there's 0.1%* chance someone will get scammed.
__________
* If we estimate the chance CH didn't sell the seed is 99.9%

Two wrongs don't make a right.

It's impossible for you to be 100% sure there are two wrongs unless you are CH or bought his seed.

Your logic is flawed.

Are you implying giving the stolen tokens to those who paid for them but were scammed is wrong?

No, let me break it down in little pieces for you: Two wrongs:

1. it is impossible for a third party to be 100% sure it is CH's account.
2. 0.1% chance someone ELSE will get scammed (which is a random number you made up, but let's keep this in for the sake of argument)

Hence the saying: Two wrongs don't make a right.

Get it?

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June 27, 2016, 01:35:24 PM
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So can we please move along now?
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June 27, 2016, 01:36:38 PM
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Please try to act like a professional and stop making remarks like 'don't give up that quick', it's childish.

It's acceptable on BTT, contact me via other means to get professional attitude. PMs will work.


Or do you have some additional information on CH's account that makes this impossible?

I do.
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June 27, 2016, 01:38:49 PM
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So can we please move along now?

It's interesting to gauge community opinion on different moral dilemmas. I would continue.
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June 27, 2016, 01:48:44 PM
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Please try to act like a professional and stop making remarks like 'don't give up that quick', it's childish.

It's acceptable on BTT, contact me via other means to get professional attitude. PMs will work.

Says who, you? So now you are not only the king of freezing accounts, but also of what is acceptable on BTT?
Kids: Don’t drink the Kool-Aid


Or do you have some additional information on CH's account that makes this impossible?

I do.

Want to elaborate on that?
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June 27, 2016, 01:56:36 PM
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Want to elaborate on that?

It's all upthread.
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June 27, 2016, 01:58:22 PM
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Says who, you? So now you are not only the king of freezing accounts, but also of what is acceptable on BTT?

BTT stands for BitcoinTrashTalk, it's pretty common knowledge. After you get Legendary badge you'll get it.
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June 27, 2016, 01:59:30 PM
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Alright people, let's move on from this tired topic.

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June 27, 2016, 02:05:36 PM
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Says who, you? So now you are not only the king of freezing accounts, but also of what is acceptable on BTT?

BTT stands for BitcoinTrashTalk, it's pretty common knowledge. After you get Legendary badge you'll get it.


Ah man, you left out the best part in your quote.


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@David you are right, as far as I'm concerned this is done.
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