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August 13, 2016, 07:09:17 PM
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the number of tickets is too much I think, it reached over 1000. so that the smaller the chance to win. moreover I saw someone can get two reward, he get 1000 mbtc and 50mbtc and it is Bra****, whether it is fair?

No one knows fair or not but whatever it was he was certainly a very lucky man in the lottery really need luck
I'm just trying to think positive and try your luck like the lottery period 5/8 I have two tickets for a total of less than 200 tickets
I was not lucky but I see someone win 2 tickets
That's because the maximum number of tickets allowed per game is I think 4.So don't be surprised if the user won multiple times.By this far you should know the fact,the major prize which is 1000MBTC is always won by one of their shill accounts.No matter how they put it and what gimmiks they use to prove the lottery is provably fair ,it isn't.Not in the case of first 3 prizes.

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August 13, 2016, 07:41:40 PM
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the number of tickets is too much I think, it reached over 1000. so that the smaller the chance to win. moreover I saw someone can get two reward, he get 1000 mbtc and 50mbtc and it is Bra****, whether it is fair?

No one knows fair or not but whatever it was he was certainly a very lucky man in the lottery really need luck
I'm just trying to think positive and try your luck like the lottery period 5/8 I have two tickets for a total of less than 200 tickets
I was not lucky but I see someone win 2 tickets
That's because the maximum number of tickets allowed per game is I think 4.So don't be surprised if the user won multiple times.By this far you should know the fact,the major prize which is 1000MBTC is always won by one of their shill accounts.No matter how they put it and what gimmiks they use to prove the lottery is provably fair ,it isn't.Not in the case of first 3 prizes.

Actually, to prove the fair is not too difficult all lottery winners to confirm here admin notify them via email
If they do not confirm here they are not allowed to enter the next lotrey so we can see the winners here if all the winners  new users in the forum or are active users here, What is your opinion ?
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August 14, 2016, 12:01:44 AM
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I found this article
how it works about provably fair raffles.
https://sportsbet.io/about/provably-fair-raffles
Read it through, and it isn't provably fair. I'll provide a more detailed explanation soon.

Let me know what you find as we want to be as transparent as possible.

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August 14, 2016, 12:42:53 AM
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I found this article
how it works about provably fair raffles.
https://sportsbet.io/about/provably-fair-raffles
Read it through, and it isn't provably fair. I'll provide a more detailed explanation soon.

Let me know what you find as we want to be as transparent as possible.
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August 14, 2016, 01:02:41 AM
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I still think it's better for players to only have ONE ticket each.

Having the same person winning multiple prizes in the same draw only adds to more questions. I have seen draws elsewhere, where if the ticket is drawn, and the person wins a prize during that draw, he won't win any more prizes in the same draw, at least i think that is fair. I think nobody likes to see the same winner winning multiple prizes in the same draw.

During the Euro raffles, at least there were people who posted winning screenshots, i think we need to see some winners here. Considering we have quite a few members here who seem to be playing on the site, we should be seeing some winning posts, but it's been quiet so far.

Anyways, all the best to everyone playing, i've been betting since the start of Olympics too, also had 6 tickets, didn't win any this time round either. Maybe i'll have better luck the next few rounds..lol Wink


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August 14, 2016, 01:17:51 AM
Last edit: August 14, 2016, 01:35:24 AM by DarkStar_
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live stream or escrow Wink
Stop ban evading. A live stream wouldn't make it provably fair, as one, it isn't provable, and that they can tamper with the code of whatever site and make it pick a list of players that are their accounts.

Let me know what you find as we want to be as transparent as possible.

Sure. So firstly, while I assume the code picks a name from an list of participants, it isn't very hard to switch the names around so it picks a name that is one of your accounts. To combat this, either assign tickets in real time and add a page listing the usernames and ticket numbers of each person, or assign them like you do right now, but add a page numbering each ticket once it's been added. This ensures that the ticket placements aren't tampered with. Secondly, you don't provide the code used to draw the winners, or explain how to verify it. We need to trust your verifier that what you say is true, which isn't very hard to rig. All dice sites with provably fair tell you how to verify each bet, and there are often third party verifiers (DiceSites.com).

The point of provably fair is so that anyone can prove that the rolls were fair.

TL:DR; Be more transparent about who gets what ticket and how it is drawn. The main problem is lack of transparency.

I still think it's better for players to only have ONE ticket each.

Having the same person winning multiple prizes in the same draw only adds to more questions. I have seen draws elsewhere, where if the ticket is drawn, and the person wins a prize during that draw, he won't win any more prizes in the same draw, at least i think that is fair. I think nobody likes to see the same winner winning multiple prizes in the same draw.

During the Euro raffles, at least there were people who posted winning screenshots, i think we need to see some winners here. Considering we have quite a few members here who seem to be playing on the site, we should be seeing some winning posts, but it's been quiet so far.

Anyways, all the best to everyone playing, i've been betting since the start of Olympics too, also had 6 tickets, didn't win any this time round either. Maybe i'll have better luck the next few rounds..lol Wink
One prize per person would be nice, but allowing more tickets seems fair for both the player and sportsbet, so they can make more money. You don't know that it is the same person though - based on TwitchySeal's analysis, there were 6? prizes from the Euro raffle given to users who's names begin with "Dar" (me being one of them). 350 mBTC was won by "Dar", and I only got 100 mBTC won. I know that there is a user here named DarkMatters69 who posted they won 50 mBTC.

I won 50 mBTC in the first olympics raffle.

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August 14, 2016, 02:41:02 AM
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I still think it's better for players to only have ONE ticket each.

Actually every player has one ticket each and this is not much different compared to the euro raffe. You can get around 4 tickets before the next raffle is drawn and each one can only gets one ticket every day so thats a total of 4 tickets maximum before the raffle is drawn , not that much different than euro raffles just only less prize but still great
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August 14, 2016, 02:49:43 AM
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I still think it's better for players to only have ONE ticket each.

Actually every player has one ticket each and this is not much different compared to the euro raffe. You can get around 4 tickets before the next raffle is drawn and each one can only gets one ticket every day so thats a total of 4 tickets maximum before the raffle is drawn , not that much different than euro raffles just only less prize but still great
Your contradicting yourself. Don't post spam that doesn't make sense just for FortuneJacks campaign please. Thanks. I had 5 tickets in the last raffle and 2 in the first one. I have more than one ticket. You first say that a player can only get 1 ticket, then you say that they can get 4. Idiots.

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August 14, 2016, 02:58:59 AM
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the number of tickets is too much I think, it reached over 1000. so that the smaller the chance to win. moreover I saw someone can get two reward, he get 1000 mbtc and 50mbtc and it is Bra****, whether it is fair?

No one knows fair or not but whatever it was he was certainly a very lucky man in the lottery really need luck
I'm just trying to think positive and try your luck like the lottery period 5/8 I have two tickets for a total of less than 200 tickets
I was not lucky but I see someone win 2 tickets
That's because the maximum number of tickets allowed per game is I think 4.So don't be surprised if the user won multiple times.By this far you should know the fact,the major prize which is 1000MBTC is always won by one of their shill accounts.No matter how they put it and what gimmiks they use to prove the lottery is provably fair ,it isn't.Not in the case of first 3 prizes.

Actually, to prove the fair is not too difficult all lottery winners to confirm here admin notify them via email
If they do not confirm here they are not allowed to enter the next lotrey so we can see the winners here if all the winners  new users in the forum or are active users here, What is your opinion ?

In case of the accussation about shill accounts, winners confirmation is not enough to prove that the lottery is fair. Provably fair system is not only something that can be confirmed, but more about verification imo. So your opinion wont help the site to prove that their raffle is provably fair.




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August 14, 2016, 03:16:14 AM
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I still think it's better for players to only have ONE ticket each.

Actually every player has one ticket each and this is not much different compared to the euro raffe. You can get around 4 tickets before the next raffle is drawn and each one can only gets one ticket every day so thats a total of 4 tickets maximum before the raffle is drawn , not that much different than euro raffles just only less prize but still great
Your contradicting yourself. Don't post spam that doesn't make sense just for FortuneJacks campaign please. Thanks. I had 5 tickets in the last raffle and 2 in the first one. I have more than one ticket. You first say that a player can only get 1 ticket, then you say that they can get 4. Idiots.

You are as stupid as degenerate guy. I need to bold those sentences and size it up a bit so you can clearly read it. It is clearly mentioned on their terms as well, now you are contradicting your ownself . Try to read before you put up stupid post in this thread . I'll just leave this up here so you can read

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layers who will make at least 1 real-money bet from 9th of August to 12th of August, will receive at least 1 ticket to this lottery! You can get up to 4 tickets per 4 days (one per day) - just make bets and our support agents will credit your account with ticket once per day.
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August 14, 2016, 03:25:00 AM
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I still think it's better for players to only have ONE ticket each.

Actually every player has one ticket each and this is not much different compared to the euro raffe. You can get around 4 tickets before the next raffle is drawn and each one can only gets one ticket every day so thats a total of 4 tickets maximum before the raffle is drawn , not that much different than euro raffles just only less prize but still great
Your contradicting yourself. Don't post spam that doesn't make sense just for FortuneJacks campaign please. Thanks. I had 5 tickets in the last raffle and 2 in the first one. I have more than one ticket. You first say that a player can only get 1 ticket, then you say that they can get 4. Idiots.

You are as stupid as degenerate guy. I need to bold those sentences and size it up a bit so you can clearly read it. It is clearly mentioned on their terms as well, now you are contradicting your ownself . Try to read before you put up stupid post in this thread . I'll just leave this up here so you can read

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layers who will make at least 1 real-money bet from 9th of August to 12th of August, will receive at least 1 ticket to this lottery! You can get up to 4 tickets per 4 days (one per day) - just make bets and our support agents will credit your account with ticket once per day.
26 lucky winners will share 3,000 mBTC prize!


If the raffles are more or less than 4 days apart, the maximum number of tickets will be more or less than 4.  I think.

I had 5 in the last raffle since.  

I think an easy solution for now would be to get rid of the scheduled dates and countdown timer.  Just put up the block # and let people earn 1 ticket per day till it's mined.
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August 14, 2016, 06:03:49 AM
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the number of tickets is too much I think, it reached over 1000. so that the smaller the chance to win. moreover I saw someone can get two reward, he get 1000 mbtc and 50mbtc and it is Bra****, whether it is fair?

No one knows fair or not but whatever it was he was certainly a very lucky man in the lottery really need luck
I'm just trying to think positive and try your luck like the lottery period 5/8 I have two tickets for a total of less than 200 tickets
I was not lucky but I see someone win 2 tickets
That's because the maximum number of tickets allowed per game is I think 4.So don't be surprised if the user won multiple times.By this far you should know the fact,the major prize which is 1000MBTC is always won by one of their shill accounts.No matter how they put it and what gimmiks they use to prove the lottery is provably fair ,it isn't.Not in the case of first 3 prizes.

Actually, to prove the fair is not too difficult all lottery winners to confirm here admin notify them via email
If they do not confirm here they are not allowed to enter the next lotrey so we can see the winners here if all the winners  new users in the forum or are active users here, What is your opinion ?

In case of the accussation about shill accounts, winners confirmation is not enough to prove that the lottery is fair. Provably fair system is not only something that can be confirmed, but more about verification imo. So your opinion wont help the site to prove that their raffle is provably fair.


The lottery really fair, many people say and provide proof they have got, I even saw my friends also ever get 1000 mbtc, I do not think sportsbet.io commit fraud in this case. but perhaps of the system draw many people who do not believe that this is fair. I agree with the current ticketing system, they often bet will get more tickets, so the chance of winning for them is greater.

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August 14, 2016, 06:11:05 AM
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Okay,you getting on my nerves now.Loser,why do only post on this forum when topic about sportsbets.io lottery issues come up ? I don't even see you posting anywhere else but this thread ? You are undoubtedly their shill account!

The lottery really fair, many people say and provide proof they have got, I even saw my friends also ever get 1000 mbtc, I do not think sportsbet.io commit fraud in this case. but perhaps of the system draw many people who do not believe that this is fair. I agree with the current ticketing system, they often bet will get more tickets, so the chance of winning for them is greater.
SHUT THE FUCK UP.SIGNATURE SPAMMER.Post proofs or your words don't mean shit.

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August 14, 2016, 07:15:25 AM
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 #914

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Okay,you getting on my nerves now.Loser,why do only post on this forum when topic about sportsbets.io lottery issues come up ? I don't even see you posting anywhere else but this thread ? You are undoubtedly their shill account!

The lottery really fair, many people say and provide proof they have got, I even saw my friends also ever get 1000 mbtc, I do not think sportsbet.io commit fraud in this case. but perhaps of the system draw many people who do not believe that this is fair. I agree with the current ticketing system, they often bet will get more tickets, so the chance of winning for them is greater.
SHUT THE FUCK UP.SIGNATURE SPAMMER.Post proofs or your words don't mean shit.


I spoke accordance with the facts and reality, I have proof, but I can not give of proof, because my friend did not want known.
you can read a few pages earlier in this thread, many people who showed evidence of getting 1000mbtc.

You seem to feel upset, because you are someone who never get lottre lol. I will not argue, let us wait for some people to prove it.

NOTE: I forced my friend to prove it http://imgur.com/qxBGIeI

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August 14, 2016, 07:39:46 AM
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You seem to feel upset, because you are someone who never get lottre lol. I will not argue, let us wait for some people to prove it.
*Lottery.

NOTE: I forced my friend to prove it http://imgur.com/qxBGIeI
What does that prove ?If you think I'm too dumb to understand it,please ask somebody else to open the image and share their thoughts.

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http://imgur.com/a/FCf2x

There is something wrong with Olympics soccer winner market, it is outdated still showing Portugal, South Korea, Colombia and Denmark, make is up to date according to the semi finalists and remove these teams from the list of betting.
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August 14, 2016, 08:36:07 AM
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the number of tickets is too much I think, it reached over 1000. so that the smaller the chance to win. moreover I saw someone can get two reward, he get 1000 mbtc and 50mbtc and it is Bra****, whether it is fair?

No one knows fair or not but whatever it was he was certainly a very lucky man in the lottery really need luck
I'm just trying to think positive and try your luck like the lottery period 5/8 I have two tickets for a total of less than 200 tickets
I was not lucky but I see someone win 2 tickets
That's because the maximum number of tickets allowed per game is I think 4.So don't be surprised if the user won multiple times.By this far you should know the fact,the major prize which is 1000MBTC is always won by one of their shill accounts.No matter how they put it and what gimmiks they use to prove the lottery is provably fair ,it isn't.Not in the case of first 3 prizes.

Actually, to prove the fair is not too difficult all lottery winners to confirm here admin notify them via email
If they do not confirm here they are not allowed to enter the next lotrey so we can see the winners here if all the winners  new users in the forum or are active users here, What is your opinion ?

In case of the accussation about shill accounts, winners confirmation is not enough to prove that the lottery is fair. Provably fair system is not only something that can be confirmed, but more about verification imo. So your opinion wont help the site to prove that their raffle is provably fair.


The lottery really fair, many people say and provide proof they have got, I even saw my friends also ever get 1000 mbtc, I do not think sportsbet.io commit fraud in this case. but perhaps of the system draw many people who do not believe that this is fair. I agree with the current ticketing system, they often bet will get more tickets, so the chance of winning for them is greater.

As what I said, fairness can be proven by people confirmation that they won the lottery. Fairness is more about the process on how they draw the lottery that should be able to be verified. The chance is not getting bigger unless you are the only one who has more tickets than the others.




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August 14, 2016, 09:03:46 AM
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As what I said, fairness can be proven by people confirmation that they won the lottery. Fairness is more about the process on how they draw the lottery that should be able to be verified. The chance is not getting bigger unless you are the only one who has more tickets than the others.

Due to the recent issue about players getting more tickets then the others. Most people have an average of 4-5 tickets if you bet everyday before the raffle is drawn so it is not really an advantage over the other. They have been banning alot of multi accounts in the past and of course still doing so , with that said most people have same chance of winning
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August 14, 2016, 01:48:53 PM
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I still think it's better for players to only have ONE ticket each.

Actually every player has one ticket each and this is not much different compared to the euro raffe. You can get around 4 tickets before the next raffle is drawn and each one can only gets one ticket every day so thats a total of 4 tickets maximum before the raffle is drawn , not that much different than euro raffles just only less prize but still great
Your contradicting yourself. Don't post spam that doesn't make sense just for FortuneJacks campaign please. Thanks. I had 5 tickets in the last raffle and 2 in the first one. I have more than one ticket. You first say that a player can only get 1 ticket, then you say that they can get 4. Idiots.

You are as stupid as degenerate guy. I need to bold those sentences and size it up a bit so you can clearly read it. It is clearly mentioned on their terms as well, now you are contradicting your ownself . Try to read before you put up stupid post in this thread . I'll just leave this up here so you can read

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layers who will make at least 1 real-money bet from 9th of August to 12th of August, will receive at least 1 ticket to this lottery! You can get up to 4 tickets per 4 days (one per day) - just make bets and our support agents will credit your account with ticket once per day.
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I don't care about their terms. I know what they are, and I was simply pointing out how you contradicted yourself. The fact that the terms are correct has nothing to do with your post. I'll explain it again:

"Actually every player has one ticket each" implies that a player can only get one ticket. A period was added at the end of the sentence after some stuff about the Euro raffle, which implies that it is one ticket each, not one ticket each day. Then you say that you can get up to 4 tickets each. See what I'm saying? I read your entire post, and still stand by my opinion.


How did I contradict myself?

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August 15, 2016, 02:42:03 AM
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