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[amacar2]

Just for the record, I also won 50mbtc twice! Thanks!

You are quite lucky i have tried several times but till now not even won that lowest 50 mbtc. But profit from betting on games where nice, i may won one big 1 BTC in coming days.

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[mrgambool]

something wrong or weird happened on the leaderboard.

this is the screenshot of this link leaderboard https://sportsbet.io/lotteries

http://prntscr.com/bk13rz

and this is the screenshot of this link leaderboard https://sportsbet.io/promotions/leaderboard

http://prntscr.com/bk154o

which one are the correct leaderboard? it's shown different points

i was overtaken from 15th position too

I think you caught the two leaderboards exactly at the time when they were being updated. That's why the difference.

I know that the final 15 winners are shown here now: https://sportsbet.io/lotteries

That's what live chat told me and also they'll be running some new leaderboards and raffles for the rest of the EURO tournament.

[xinzark]

AFAIK 9000 mbtc for 3 lottery / 3 days , come on man needless to prejudice you can enjoy it only in sportsbet.io
ndhc and Panjul one of the most frequent users were here to win
Ok if you think the lottery is not fair let us leave this site and bet on other sites, it's a good idea?
or the lottery should be abolished , great idea ?  Lol 

Even if its free money, website is making fake announcements about their fairness in the raffle
Would you really trust your money who pays but makes fake Promise's and says hey look we are giving away 300 btc

I already recommend them to live stream the raffle every day to prove their fairness until their programmers are working in it but I still didn't understand what kind of system programmers are building to fairly choose winners in the raffle. Live streaming is the best way and I believe a program will still raise questions

panjul and ndnhc are the only trusted users I found as the winner but wait they only won smaller amounts right ?
And others I don't trust because they only showed up when we accused on Sportsbet

[poplolnman]

something wrong or weird happened on the leaderboard.

this is the screenshot of this link leaderboard https://sportsbet.io/lotteries

http://prntscr.com/bk13rz

and this is the screenshot of this link leaderboard https://sportsbet.io/promotions/leaderboard

http://prntscr.com/bk154o

which one are the correct leaderboard? it's shown different points

i was overtaken from 15th position too

I think you caught the two leaderboards exactly at the time when they were being updated. That's why the difference.

I know that the final 15 winners are shown here now: https://sportsbet.io/lotteries

That's what live chat told me and also they'll be running some new leaderboards and raffles for the rest of the EURO tournament.

It's getting weird,



I take this screenshot through this link   https://sportsbet.io/lotteries  on my mobile phone,  it's chrome browser. And looks like the leaderboard aren't synced between desktop version and mobile version. Hmmmm

[panjul07]

something wrong or weird happened on the leaderboard.

this is the screenshot of this link leaderboard https://sportsbet.io/lotteries

http://prntscr.com/bk13rz

and this is the screenshot of this link leaderboard https://sportsbet.io/promotions/leaderboard

http://prntscr.com/bk154o

which one are the correct leaderboard? it's shown different points

i was overtaken from 15th position too

I think you caught the two leaderboards exactly at the time when they were being updated. That's why the difference.

I know that the final 15 winners are shown here now: https://sportsbet.io/lotteries

That's what live chat told me and also they'll be running some new leaderboards and raffles for the rest of the EURO tournament.

It's getting weird,



I take this screenshot through this link   https://sportsbet.io/lotteries  on my mobile phone,  it's chrome browser. And looks like the leaderboard aren't synced between desktop version and mobile version. Hmmmm

Yes it shows different leaderboard when we open the page with mobile and with PC. It is a bit confusing for those who on the leaderboard like you, so they need to confirm which one is correct.
Anyway, anyone received the prize from this euro leaderboard competition?

[actmyname]

Just for the record, I also won 50mbtc twice! Thanks!

That's what my point is.The same bunch of users keep winning twice/thrice while a remaining genuine lot does't win jack.How this is provably fair I don't understand.

I managed to win twice, 50 mBTC on the first day and 100 mBTC on another day. Although, statistically I should be winning about 1/6 of the time. (I've been wagering every single day on the euro raffles since the raffling began)

[Joel_Jantsen]

Even if its free money, website is making fake announcements about their fairness in the raffle
Would you really trust your money who pays but makes fake Promise's and says hey look we are giving away 300 btc

I already recommend them to live stream the raffle every day to prove their fairness until their programmers are working in it but I still didn't understand what kind of system programmers are building to fairly choose winners in the raffle. Live streaming is the best way and I believe a program will still raise questions

panjul and ndnhc are the only trusted users I found as the winner but wait they only won smaller amounts right ?
And others I don't trust because they only showed up when we accused on Sportsbet

Finally someone understands my point here.Heads up Xinxark.


Sportsbet.io you have delaying a lot of replies lately.You even promised you'd work out the provably fair issues in the upcoming lotteries but nothing changed yet.Also you can see how people have won couple of times and only the same bunch of users are winning again over and over.How is your lottery even fair ? We need an explanation.You're blatantly luring users into using your site with false advertisement about the lottery system.You're making shill accounts to distribute lotteries evenly.

I managed to win twice, 50 mBTC on the first day and 100 mBTC on another day. Although, statistically I should be winning about 1/6 of the time. (I've been wagering every single day on the euro raffles since the raffling began)

Statistically speaking,I bet everyday on at least a single match but I have won only once.I should win more right ? You're an example how similar people win lottery every day.Could you tell us your statistics ? How much did you stake ? Did you win or lose?

[actmyname]

Statistically speaking,I bet everyday on at least a single match but I have won only once.I should win more right ? You're an example how similar people win lottery every day.Could you tell us your statistics ? How much did you stake ? Did you win or lose?

What do you mean? I have won twice out of the 13 raffles.
However, since there are 26 prizes, you have a 26/entries chance of winning the raffles.

You only have to stake 5 mBTC to be eligible for a ticket in the raffle, I'm sure. It's not about how much I stake or how much I won/lose. It's just about getting a place in there.

Now for some probability:

Given that you have wagered on that day and have a ticket

22.06 raffle has a 13.13% chance of winning
21.06 raffle has a 14.6% chance of winning
20.06 raffle has a 14.6% chance of winning
19.06 raffle has a 14.69% chance of winning
18.06 raffle has a 13.07% chance of winning
17.06 raffle has a 13.54% chance of winning
16.06 raffle has a 15.03% chance of winning
15.06 raffle has a 15.95% chance of winning
14.06 raffle has a 16.04% chance of winning
13.06 raffle has a 16.56% chance of winning
12.06 raffle has a 20% chance of winning
11.06 raffle has a 22.8% chance of winning
10.06 raffle has a 37.68% chance of winning

This adds up to 227.69% in total, which means you should have won at least twice on average.

Given that there are 20 prizes of 0.05, 3 prizes of 0.1, and isolated prizes of 0.2, 0.5 and 1 BTC

That's a:

76.92% chance of winning 0.05
11.54% chance of winning 0.1
3.84% chance of winning 0.2, 0.5, or 1 BTC
      
       On average that is 0.11528 each time you get a prize. [Theoretically speaking]


Which means that the average person (betting 0.005 per game) would see at this point [statistically] a profit of 0.197481032 [if they had lost their 0.005 every single time]

Correct me if my calculations are wrong, I'm a bit preoccupied at the moment and haven't had my coffee yet

[erwin45hacked]

Statistically speaking,I bet everyday on at least a single match but I have won only once.I should win more right ?

Yet we see unsatisfied people that complain because he doesnt win the 'free money' afterall. I have been betting on the site ever since euro started and I havent win even once yet. Getting statistical data on average doesnt mean that your winning chance will follow those statistic

Generally speaking , betting 90 % chance to win on a dice game will 'ensure' some people that they will only lose 1 / 10 games which is incorrect. You could always lose 10 / 10 games and thats variances , in the long term however it will be following the average statistical data and sportsbets lottery isnt 'long' enough yet so yeah everyone is unlucky thats why

[xinzark]

Finally someone understands my point here.Heads up Xinxark.


Sportsbet.io you have delaying a lot of replies lately.You even promised you'd work out the provably fair issues in the upcoming lotteries but nothing changed yet.Also you can see how people have won couple of times and only the same bunch of users are winning again over and over.How is your lottery even fair ? We need an explanation.You're blatantly luring users into using your site with false advertisement about the lottery system.You're making shill accounts to distribute lotteries evenly.

I wouldn't say Sportsbet scam because they are still giving away bitcoin. All I suspect is the top 2 prizes which looks like a well planned winner to me
And thanks to actmyname for taking time and making all those calculations. Good work. Basically those winning percentage says we should win few times and that's normal. Even winning 4 times would be a matter of luck

You guys might be thinking I am accusing because I didn't won anything. Well I won 100mbtc on the first day I joined Sportsbet on 16th June. And I am not even calling them scammer
Running a suspicious raffle lefts a very bad effect on our mind. A gambling site must be 100% clean and transparent with their user's to make them come back again. We are betting today because of these raffles, we dare to risk our big money with them in future when their will be no giveaways because of bad memories we had with Sportsbet

All I am trying to say them is Just don't bring any such raffels which are not fare according to participants. Even if you do then try to win members heart instead of creating a suspicious feeling

[Maloppo]

Sportsbet is good betting sport with big promotions
I hope will win prize in the future.

[Bitinity]

Sportsbet is good betting sport with big promotions
I hope will win prize in the future.

Indeed they have big promotions but there are some issues on their promotions :
1. The daily 3000mbt raffle : some users asked the fairness of the raffle.
2. The Euro Leaderboard : differrent leaderboards on mobile with on PC
3. The prediction promo, no winners announced yet and I smell something not good as Gianluca claiming as one of the winners with his edited post. In fact he said that members who edited their post are disqualified.

I hope sportsbet come here now to say something about the above issues.

[DarkStar_]

Still no changes in the original post. Please respond and prove that you have the best possible odds by naming a few major events or change it to something like best possible value/odds usually above average.

Does this thing eve matter anyway? Alot of sites claiming that they are the best casino around but they are not, alot of sotes claiming that they reward their user the most but they dont. Alot of other sportsbook including those in fiats claiming that they habe the best odds as well but they dont really have it, so it doesnt really matter though

Uh, yes it matters? I don't really count fiat sportsbooks in this one, since most fiat books have rapidly changing odds, and with a larger volume, they need to adjust their odds often based on what people pick, to balance the books. Here, changes are pretty rare and the odds stay similar through out the betting day. The biggest thing is that they lied, and basically admitted to lying by saying that they have only above average odds (again, not 100% true). If they lie about something like this, who knows what else they lie about. Possibly the raffles, which others have complained about already. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people actually believe they have the best odds. Erkallys is an example of someone who does, when they clearly don't.

Would you really trust your money who pays but makes fake Promise's and says hey look we are giving away 300 btc

Hey! Finally someone who understands that. The raffle thing is pretty serious, but don't forgot the "best odds" lie that they had, even before the launched.
Sportsbet.io/Coingaming.io/Bitcasino.io/Vegascasino.io, have you considered what will happen once the raffles stop? I'm betting that you will lose a lot of volume, as your book will become very -EV afterward. Yes, the raffles cause you to have the best value right now, but you can't run those forever. Also, you still haven't named an event where you actually offer the best odds in. Guess your words were empty.

[Patatas]

Here is my ticket
http://prntscr.com/bko5ik

Another shill account winning 500 Mbits twice.Any explanations from your side Sportsbet.io ? We have been waiting here since day 1 and sad to see no reply from your side.Making shill accounts to show your Raffle is fair won't help you earn any reputation here.Please respond to the accusations..

Sportsbet.io/Coingaming.io/Bitcasino.io/Vegascasino.io, have you considered what will happen once the raffles stop? I'm betting that you will lose a lot of volume, as your book will become very -EV afterward. Yes, the raffles cause you to have the best value right now, but you can't run those forever. Also, you still haven't named an event where you actually offer the best odds in. Guess your words were empty.

Yes,I later figured that out all of them are owner/run by the same agency.This all looks like a big scam to me.All of the mentioned sites have had similar raffles in the past which means no one actually won the jackpots but their shill accounts.People are being fooled big time over here.Definitely not a trust worthy behavior.

[erwin45hacked]

Here is my ticket
http://prntscr.com/bko5ik

Another shill account winning 500 Mbits twice.Any explanations from your side Sportsbet.io ? We have been waiting here since day 1 and sad to see no reply from your side.Making shill accounts to show your Raffle is fair won't help you earn any reputation here.Please respond to the accusations..

It is funny to see people are being so hostile here just because they dont win the raffle. Greed it seems could make people turn into hostile  . Perhaps they should just stop the raffles and stop giving away free money to stop all the fuss in this thread, I dont see any sign of the account being shill though

[Patatas]

It is funny to see people are being so hostile here just because they dont win the raffle. Greed it seems could make people turn into hostile  . Perhaps they should just stop the raffles and stop giving away free money to stop all the fuss in this thread, I dont see any sign of the account being shill though

Are you one of their shill accounts ? People are not being hostile ,they're just not being idiots.Buying everything what advertisers sell you.Aren't you the type of guy who invests money in return 500% in 4 hours Ponzi schemes ? You seem like that.The fuss is not about the lottery or the website.Hey I just placed another bet for the knockouts.The question is about delivering the "quoted" product.They can't just run fake advertisements to lure people into using the service.Infact,directbet.eu has better odds and better in terms of functionality,people are betting here with a hope they might just hit the lottery too.Where as,merely they're aware they're being cheated by the fake giveaways.Don't argue,give me proofs that the lottery is fair.

[Patatas]

I don't think they give fake lottery, because i've won 3 time in different period. Maybe this people jealous just because they dont win the raffle. I think you must see and read the terms and condition to participate in the lotteries. And tips for you to get chance win lottery the ticket or your bet must be won.

Do you fuckin understand the definition of a damn lottery ? You have won three times ,great.All previous claims about people winning lotteries multiple times are more evident now.You seen to have staked a lot of cash right ? Or sportsbet.op likes you generously ?

[MadeinCoin]

I don't think they give fake lottery, because i've won 3 time in different period. Maybe this people jealous just because they dont win the raffle. I think you must see and read the terms and condition to participate in the lotteries. And tips for you to get chance win lottery the ticket or your bet must be won.

Do you fuckin understand the definition of a damn lottery ? You have won three times ,great.All previous claims about people winning lotteries multiple times are more evident now.You seen to have staked a lot of cash right ? Or sportsbet.op likes you generously ?

Needless to respond everyone has their own opinion those who have already won some sweepstakes lottery considers fair
there are also some people want to see how the admin pick lottery winners   we should wait admin explain it all

[ndnh]

You can't know if a newbie is a shill account just because he is a newbie? Come on, everyone of us was a newbie at some point of time.

The lottery is not provably fair. So we won't know if the lottery is really run as it is said. Well there are at least some people winning prizes usually the 50 mBTC one.

In addition to making the lottery provably fair, distributing 30 * 100 mBTC will be a really better prize structure.

Statistically speaking,I bet everyday on at least a single match but I have won only once.I should win more right ?

Nope. With 100-200 tickets, the variance is high.

Bet amount/ wagered has no relevance. All the three times I won 50 was on 5 mBTC bets iirc, and the time I bet more, I didn't win.

However, since there are 26 prizes, you have a 26/entries chance of winning the raffles.
-snip-
22.06 raffle has a 13.13% chance of winning

The odds are slightly higher.
chance of being the 1st winner : 1/198, 2nd : 1/197 and so on till 26th : 1/173 (not 1/198 for every draw, if I understand correctly. Or can a ticket win more than once?)



    

On average that is 0.11528 each time you get a prize. [Theoretically speaking]

Which means that the average person (betting 0.005 per game) would see at this point [statistically] a profit of 0.197481032 [if they had lost their 0.005 every single time]

In a village of 1000, 999 have $1 and 1 has $1 billion. We can't say everyone is a millionaire.. (take the big prizes off for more realistic numbers)


But yes, we don't know if that one person has a billion.. and the lottery should be made provably fair.

[dothebeats]

I don't really care about the lottery as long as the site is not a scam per se. I have been winning on their site lately with only a 0.005 btc bankroll. They might not have the best odds as they advertise but still it's a nice site (not because I have their signature, lol). Just a suggestion, can you add a large pool of sports to bet with especially on esports?