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August 19, 2017, 08:12:20 PM
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Give us a break. This is not fooling anyone anymore.
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August 19, 2017, 08:35:07 PM
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August 19, 2017, 08:57:26 PM
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August 19, 2017, 09:03:52 PM
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One other thing... I honestly don't believe the claim that Ledger added Strat out of the goodness of their hearts (which was claimed at the time). I believe the integration was paid for, and passed off as "we're just so good that Ledger added us for free!" ...
Do you have any evidence for that. It sounds like you have gone from being too positive about the coin to the other extreme now, where you are seeing everything negatively.

Hi, thanks for your responses. I won't go over them all, 'cos you have your points and I have mine. I think it is safe to say that some people are getting disillusioned with this project now, and others are still on board.

All finer points aside, the overall opinion I have is that Stratis probably won't deliver on its promises - or if they do, it'll be too little, too late. I understand there will be people who believe different, and I might end up being wrong.

I quoted the above to say no, I don't have evidence. It's just my own conclusion. I don't think there's any evidence to the contrary either. I could contact Ledger and ask them - but I don't think they'd tell me. I might give it a try though.

I don't see everything negatively... some progress has definitely been made. I just don't think it lives up to the hype, or the price. That's all.

And LOL at the images above  Tongue
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August 19, 2017, 09:39:56 PM
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One other thing... I honestly don't believe the claim that Ledger added Strat out of the goodness of their hearts (which was claimed at the time). I believe the integration was paid for, and passed off as "we're just so good that Ledger added us for free!" ...
Do you have any evidence for that. It sounds like you have gone from being too positive about the coin to the other extreme now, where you are seeing everything negatively.

Hi, thanks for your responses. I won't go over them all, 'cos you have your points and I have mine. I think it is safe to say that some people are getting disillusioned with this project now, and others are still on board.

All finer points aside, the overall opinion I have is that Stratis probably won't deliver on its promises - or if they do, it'll be too little, too late. I understand there will be people who believe different, and I might end up being wrong.


Well, we probably see things a little differently.
I think we are just at the beginning of businesses using blockchains and Stratis is one of the very few solutions in an area that could boom.
So I can't see how they could be too late. Too early maybe.  Smiley

Me?  I've sold most of mine but still have enough if it booms. I might buy some more are 100,000 sats. I think it just went too high too fast.
And the price correction just has to do with that, not with the project so much

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August 19, 2017, 10:51:41 PM
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All finer points aside, the overall opinion I have is that Stratis probably won't deliver on its promises - or if they do, it'll be too little, too late.

Then you are wrong...their work is outstanding and they already admitted they had a lot more work then they thought at the beginning. But the partnership is already telling us that this project will be fully developed at the end of this year, because the US customs demands that. Also the law firm which is involved in Stratis is a huge thing. You all are getting it wrong...they are doing all they can in a very secure way and on the legit way.

Read this post...and learn that they take this all very serious. yes, their roadmap is delayed...you are right...but you don't know what is happening behind the scene. And that is already huge.

https://amp.reddit.com/r/stratisplatform/comments/6ul6ta/stratis_more_than_meets_the_eye_to_earth_twine/
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August 19, 2017, 11:07:13 PM
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Read this post...and learn that they take this all very serious. yes, their roadmap is delayed...you are right...but you don't know what is happening behind the scene. And that is already huge.

https://amp.reddit.com/r/stratisplatform/comments/6ul6ta/stratis_more_than_meets_the_eye_to_earth_twine/

Read not only the post but the comments. There are massive unanswered questions.

Basic questions.
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August 19, 2017, 11:29:59 PM
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All finer points aside, the overall opinion I have is that Stratis probably won't deliver on its promises - or if they do, it'll be too little, too late.

Then you are wrong...

I'm always open to that possibility too...
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August 20, 2017, 12:50:40 AM
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All finer points aside, the overall opinion I have is that Stratis probably won't deliver on its promises - or if they do, it'll be too little, too late.

Then you are wrong...their work is outstanding and they already admitted they had a lot more work then they thought at the beginning. But the partnership is already telling us that this project will be fully developed at the end of this year, because the US customs demands that. Also the law firm which is involved in Stratis is a huge thing. You all are getting it wrong...they are doing all they can in a very secure way and on the legit way.

Read this post...and learn that they take this all very serious. yes, their roadmap is delayed...you are right...but you don't know what is happening behind the scene. And that is already huge.

https://amp.reddit.com/r/stratisplatform/comments/6ul6ta/stratis_more_than_meets_the_eye_to_earth_twine/

That is a good piece. It is so important that we take care of our oceans and our fish populations.
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The US Borders and Customs department has mandated digital data records for importing seafood beginning on 1 January 2018. Information required includes the capturing entity, like authorization license number and vessel name and designation, the harvesting event, like location, date, and first landing, and importer, like the legal declaration, and importer name, will all presumably be stored on the blockchain.
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August 20, 2017, 12:58:09 AM
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I think we are just at the beginning of businesses using blockchains and Stratis is one of the very few solutions in an area that could boom.
So I can't see how they could be too late. Too early maybe.  Smiley


That is a good point. I spend so much time watching crypto, that I forget we're still the early adopters.

I'll keep my eye on it. I was wrong the first time (when it was pennies), so can't rule out being wrong again  Tongue
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August 20, 2017, 03:50:12 AM
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Stratis is the future of blockchain technology, waiting for more contracts.
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August 20, 2017, 05:25:04 AM
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This is looking promising but there are some weird statements in your products.

1) you try to explain that doing a full node implementation in C# is a technology advancement " C++ skilled engineers are in short supply in the corporate world, which tends to prefer higher higher-level languages like C# or Java".
First, C# or JAVA are not higher level level languages compared to C#. They both have the same functionalities. C# is about 10 times slower because it is a byte code language (like compiled basic) and is parsed at execution (if not jitted). And C++ is compiled in machine language. You can read why Unreal (UE4) engine is the fastest game creation engine and they use C++ for that reason. Unity who is a competitor is using C# and is barely usable on large games because C# is so slow.

2) C# can be reverse engineered very easily and publishing C# without obfuscating it is like giving the source code.

I understand why C# integration is a better solution to find cheap and plenty engineer but saying that C# and Java are higher level languages is simply not true. They are more portable, because they do not need to be compiled into language machine and they are using a bytecode that is CPU independent.

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August 20, 2017, 05:46:47 AM
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Oh boy.Prepare to be excoriated Mr. 666

Getting out my popcorn for this one.

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August 20, 2017, 06:11:34 AM
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Oh boy.Prepare to be excoriated Mr. 666

Getting out my popcorn for this one.


So funny to watch your pain every day.
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August 20, 2017, 06:26:28 AM
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Non sequitur much? Huh

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This is looking promising but there are some weird statements in your products.

1) you try to explain that doing a full node implementation in C# is a technology advancement " C++ skilled engineers are in short supply in the corporate world, which tends to prefer higher higher-level languages like C# or Java".
First, C# or JAVA are not higher level level languages compared to C#.
Did you mean "compared to C++" ?

I think you will find differences of opinion on which is "higher level", but both C++ and C# are considered "higher level" as far as I'm aware (though I'm no expert Smiley )

You can find some discussion here though no doubt there is more to it, and its an old discussion. Smiley

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/620778/is-c-sharp-a-high-level-language

Here is a newer discussion which should clear things up once and for all with the following comment ;P
http://www.cplusplus.com/forum/lounge/171474/
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I'd say Java and C# are about the same, but C++ is both lower and much higher level language than Java/C#

Something for everyone there.   Tongue
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August 20, 2017, 10:07:03 AM
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C# is about 10 times slower because it is a byte code language (like compiled basic) and is parsed at execution (if not jitted).

That is absolute nonsense. Of course, in many cases the JIT compilation costs a little bit of extra time, but certainly not 10x times slower. More strongly, C# can be faster sometimes due to optimizations on IL code.
I agree with you that certain 'core' parts of your application can benefit from C++'s speed, but in many of today's software this speed benefit is negligible.

C# can be reverse engineered very easily and publishing C# without obfuscating it is like giving the source code.

So what? It's open-source: https://github.com/stratisproject? And if they really want to keep some parts closed-source, they might offer it via the cloud (as a service) so you don't even have access to binaries (only to their API).

Main benefits of C# are many developers are familiar with it, and thus can contribute to the project. Also many companies are Microsoft oriented, have their applications already written in .NET and have their servers prepared for .NET applications. But after all, for companies that want to use Stratis blockchain technology, it doesn't really matter in what language it is written, as long as there are libraries available for their environment (e.g. NET, or Java).

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August 20, 2017, 12:18:24 PM
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https://twitter.com/Khil0ne/status/899243917408948226

https://cointelegraph.com/press-releases/earth-twine-and-stratis-partner-worlds-first-seafood-dedicated-blockchain
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August 20, 2017, 04:37:43 PM
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Don't you think you are exaggerating things a little bit? The party isn't over yet I would say. Stratis can still grow significantly.

It's just a troll. Don't believe anyone dissing a company simply because "they are jerk off slackers", without offering any valid criticism.

I know it is part of the crypto business. But sometimes leaving such posts without a comment is also bad. Has always been a problem to deal with trolls on this forum, too sad.

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August 20, 2017, 05:52:58 PM
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Good news! This is the first and fortunate a mid-sized company.

With this mid-sized enterprise implementation, you gain experience without compromising development. Any mistakes or wanne haves you encounter during the implementation can be resolved in between.

If you had started implementing a corporate business, all focus had been on implementation and this would have been at the expense of development.

So good decision and good luck with the implementation.

I expect that many companies will follow in the near future!
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