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August 24, 2016, 05:36:18 PM
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Dude, you're a thief and liar....
How much I have stolen and from whom?


nobody would want to play with you anyway.
I do not offer to play with me. You probably meant nobody want to play with the Betcoin scam...


And, if your university taught you that "max" and "free" were synonyms, then I'd start thinking about suing them instead of burning honest people out of their income.
The contract laws taught me that a max bet is either a direct bet or a won bet.

LMAO, please explain how you could sue an anonymous operator like Betcoin?


"The rules are clearly stated: '5 jackpot symbols on max bet wins the JACKPOT!'"  <--- where does that clearly state that 5 jackpot symbols on a freespin wins the jackpot?
Nowhere! Because it is irrelevant...

The key point is 5 yachts on a "max bet" and this totally independant of whether you won the "max bet" or you paid the "max bet" directy.

But as you lie about "freespin", you obviously do not speak about the game "the Glam Life", because there it is called:
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Features: "the Glam Life"

3 or more Match bonus symbols on an active payline awards the on-reels bonus game


I think that it states that "5 yachts on a max bet spin wins the jackpot."  So, who's lying?  "Free" does not have the same meaning as "maximum."
It does not play any role what liars think, however, the word spin and the word "Free" are not mentioned:

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Features: "the Glam Life"

5 jackpot symbols on max bet wins the JACKPOT!
-> your creation of "max bet spin is a lie, as well as your creation of "Free" a lie is  Roll Eyes


What a shame of a site that has to pay liars to lie, in an attempt to draw customers in!

How could anybody take anything you say seriously.....you are about as dumb as a box of rocks!  You aren't educated dude....STFU....LOL
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August 24, 2016, 11:07:30 PM
Last edit: August 26, 2016, 06:33:55 PM by TwitchySeal
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Jasonort didn't win the jackpot....jasonort's claim was that he should have won the jackpot because it wasn't clarified anywhere that "freespin" wasn't equivalent to "maxbet spin" on a bonus round.  If the jackpot was won, it would have dropped....it didn't because "freespin" does not equal "max bet" in the coding.  Claiming that he did win it is a misrepresentation of the facts because the argument was that he should have won it because it wasn't explained that "freespins" didn't qualify as a "max bet."  Try to think about this objectively: what if there was a similar instance in one of the games at moneypot where a player claimed he should have won the jackpot because the rules were ambiguous....should the investors pay the player anyway based on the player's subjective interpretation, even though the event wasn't coded into the software?  If the terms were ambiguous enough to create conflict, should the moneypot investors request the terms be clarified to avoid similar conflicts in the future?  Either way one slices it...."free" and "maximum" are antonyms and not synonyms....so the interpretation was more of a reach than not.

I disagree with most of the things you wrote there. I could go through and reply line by line but I've seen others attempt to do that and it doesn't work out well.

I'll dip my toe in the water with your most obvious incorrect statement:

> "free" and "maximum" are antonyms

The antonym of "maximum" is "minimum". You really cannot believe that those two words are antonyms. Can you?

Twitchy misrepresented the facts by mixing terms associated with other games (Greedy Goblins) into the argument with the game in question (The Glam Life)....that's deception.  He also photo-shops images....that's also deception....he consistently trolls and manipulates the facts to meet his agenda.  Are we trying to be truthful and objective here or are we bandwagoning to suit our interests?

I don't think Twitchy ever claimed that the rules for one game were the rules for another game. If he did, perhaps you could quote the post where he did so. Making all these accusations with nothing to back them up adds nothing to the argument. You say he multi-accounts, he says "only to chat and post", you let the thread drop, but go back to accusing him of multi-accounting. It's the same with each of your accusations. You accuse, he defends, you ignore his defense and go back to step 1. Try harder.

I've had good experiences with betcoin. I'm something like 10 BTC up there and didn't have any trouble withdrawing my winnings.

I've also had bad experiences with betcoin. Their customer support is among the worst I have ever experienced. Tickets go ignored for months at a time.
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August 29, 2016, 10:10:26 PM
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https://www.betcoin.ag/files/betcoin/assets/video/trailer.mp4

The video that now runs full window backround on betcoin.ag homepage^^^
(it's a bunch of clips from BetsoftGaming slots with hype music)https://www.betcoin.ag/

Saw everything from all the games except the yacht symbol.
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October 17, 2016, 08:29:55 PM
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So I noticed Betcoin recently added a new game to their collection.  For some reason they didn't spam the big news like they normally would...I wonder why?

Oh, maybe because it's basically just glam life part 2.

MEGA GLAMLIFE!


In this game you can win a big jackpot in a bonus round, even if it's triggered by free-spins.

Come out Cjmoles.  You've been hiding long enough.


Come out Cjmoles.  You've been hiding long enough.
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October 18, 2016, 12:07:58 AM
Last edit: October 18, 2016, 01:10:25 AM by actmyname
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So I noticed Betcoin recently added a new game to their collection.  For some reason they didn't spam the big news like they normally would...I wonder why?

Oh, maybe because it's basically just glam life part 2.

MEGA GLAMLIFE!


In this game you can win a big jackpot in a bonus round, even if it's triggered by free-spins.

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Come out Cjmoles.  You've been hiding long enough.

What's likely to happen is that the response would be, "they are different games so they must have different rules" and then there would just be nonstop ad hominem and character attacks that lead to nothing but more payments for him...

That is, if he were to come back and argue for Betcoin. I doubt it, though. Unfortunately, people still play at Betsoft even now because of the entertainment value... even though slots are the worst games to play, and doubly so when they're run by scammers.



Regardless, wasn't it already defined that Betcoin had lied about the ToS update date, changed the rules, and Betsoft had the game rules changed as well just to avoid paying out? There's nothing more to discuss, apart from trying to convince people to stop advertising the website.

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December 20, 2016, 12:43:45 AM
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Who owes the jackpot?

A) betcoin.ag crystal clear owe the jackpot, because

1) The operator of betcoin.ag is the contract partner of the players

2) Player logged in and played with the betcoin.ag casino client

3) Jackpot winner deposited money to betcoin.ag

4) The juridical not valid Terms of Service on betcoin.ag website do not state one word about that Betsoft scam collect the jackpot contributions and is responsible for payment

B) The Betsoft scam also owe the jackpot, because

1) They cooperate with the publicly proven betcoin.ag scam = criminal offense. And when you cooperate with criminals, then you are liable for the damage occured

2) Progressive jackpots usually run in all online casinos connected to Betsoft scam gaming software. Hence Betsoft collect the “the Glam Life” jackpot contributions from all connected casinos. If the jackpot hit in casino XY, then Betsoft send the money to XY and XY give the money to the winner.

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February 13, 2017, 07:54:36 AM
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ThePogg declared the exorted and juridical not existing "settlement" as a resolved case. I informed them, with all relevant info, that this case is not resolved, but they did not publicise my post and they did not use my info to rework their statement. Sad

http://thepogg.com/complaint/betcoin-ag-progressive-jackpot-was-not-paid-for-winning-spin/

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August 27, 2017, 05:32:06 PM
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I just want to share my experience with playing at Betcoin.ag I was playing live roulette and bet a little over 1 BTC on BLACK and the ball landed on BLACK but I lost and when I told support about it they said everything was fine and basically ignored me, I asked for proof but didn't give me any and shortly after this they took down live casinos and later on brought them back...

I still cannot believe something like this actually happened very disappointed they owe me 2+btc
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August 27, 2017, 11:28:28 PM
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It's true, Jackpots cannot be multiplied in online casinos which is kind of obvious for the simple fact that you can't benefit from 2 promotions at the same time. I ran into the same issue while playing this Novomatic slot https://www.play-book-of-ra-online.com/book-of-ra-deluxe-jackpot-edition/



As you can see, an active payline is not required to win the JACKPOT!

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