[ANN] HEAT: 3.0 crypto*multisig fiat*a2a hft*1000tps*DSA*PoS+PoP*e2ee chat*

[riceberry]

Why dont you contact

https://www.reddit.com/user/BCNext

he is currently active there.

he may wish to help out or qualify the code or direction.

NOT to mention it would be a huge PR boost.

A shot from the Nxt past...

ALso how can heat help with IOTA?

is there a possible collaboration or even combined wallet.

WHy i say IOTA is it is different not a blockchain and not really for humans it is a machine to machine cypto payment system.

I'm not sure that is the real BCNext.

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[cryptomommy]

Few thoughts....

I am a little irritated that we have not moved from ICO to an actual coin at this point. I understand that a large project is currently being prepared for release but a step as small as going from test net to a live block chain with the rewards system in place is a must at this point. Developers have already proven a working wallet in test net phase.

Personally I would release the coin without addition from larger exchanges for initial launch to allow people to sell / buy in small amounts initially and allow the demand to grow naturally into larger exchanges to prevent an epic dump. If I had a working wallet I for one would have significantly more faith in this coin and would potentially even place buy walls in the networks where heat is currently listed.

As it stands right now... I am pondering writing off this chunk of my portfolio and simply considering this investment a lost cause.

[john312]

Few thoughts....

I am a little irritated that we have not moved from ICO to an actual coin at this point. I understand that a large project is currently being prepared for release but a step as small as going from test net to a live block chain with the rewards system in place is a must at this point. Developers have already proven a working wallet in test net phase.

Personally I would release the coin without addition from larger exchanges for initial launch to allow people to sell / buy in small amounts initially and allow the demand to grow naturally into larger exchanges to prevent an epic dump. If I had a working wallet I for one would have significantly more faith in this coin and would potentially even place buy walls in the networks where heat is currently listed.

As it stands right now... I am pondering writing off this chunk of my portfolio and simply considering this investment a lost cause.

You are forgetting that this project is not only about the coin itself, but also about all the partnerships that come with it. The most similar coin to HEAT is Waves, which is also aiming for such partnerships. Difference is that Waves decided to launch without such partnerships and HEAT wants them at launch, not repeating Wave's mistakes. People don't seem to understand how huge this project is. It is not just another fancy coin with neat wallet. This is actually useful and revolutionary. I am not talking only about 1000 TPS speed, because it won't be that important to average user initially (but very important if the project wants to scale). It's more about gateways and all the magical things you will be able to do on this wallet. It needs partnerships established and having them at launch, especially that HEAT company will be listed not only on crypto exchange, but also on regular exchange (HEAT holders will be getting 50% discount). It needs preparations and it needs to be done perfectly. Just look at Waves - it is worth 30 million USD without actually delivering all those features yet and people needed to wait months for full nodes. HEAT will have full nodes at launch and some of the partnerships to (while adding new partnerships in the following months). Of course there will be ups and downs, some people will sell along the way, but the project is curretly worth 1 million USD, while Waves is 30 million. It's x30 gain for HEAT investors during the first couple of weeks. I would not be afraid about that investment.

Yeah, this project is huge, and people who don't grasp it probably didn't read the whitepaper and don't understand what the devs are aiming for. Waves would be the best comparison but this looks way better and much more professional. It won't be only about the promises but you will get many features at launch (if the devs deliver as promised, and they are delaying for a reason, probably to deliver this). Also note that this will be one of a few crypto with roots in real-world. Actual stock options is something fresh and will give your coins additional value in February, because anyone who would like 50% discount at stocks would need to buy your coins from you then. It's also great protection from ICO flippers - you are basically guaranteed that your coins will get additional value in February, so selling earlier is pointless. Anyway, people will quickly realise what a gem HEAT is.

[TheMilkman]

Few thoughts....

I am a little irritated that we have not moved from ICO to an actual coin at this point. I understand that a large project is currently being prepared for release but a step as small as going from test net to a live block chain with the rewards system in place is a must at this point. Developers have already proven a working wallet in test net phase.

Personally I would release the coin without addition from larger exchanges for initial launch to allow people to sell / buy in small amounts initially and allow the demand to grow naturally into larger exchanges to prevent an epic dump. If I had a working wallet I for one would have significantly more faith in this coin and would potentially even place buy walls in the networks where heat is currently listed.

As it stands right now... I am pondering writing off this chunk of my portfolio and simply considering this investment a lost cause.

You are forgetting that this project is not only about the coin itself, but also about all the partnerships that come with it. The most similar coin to HEAT is Waves, which is also aiming for such partnerships. Difference is that Waves decided to launch without such partnerships and HEAT wants them at launch, not repeating Wave's mistakes. People don't seem to understand how huge this project is. It is not just another fancy coin with neat wallet. This is actually useful and revolutionary. I am not talking only about 1000 TPS speed, because it won't be that important to average user initially (but very important if the project wants to scale). It's more about gateways and all the magical things you will be able to do on this wallet. It needs partnerships established and having them at launch, especially that HEAT company will be listed not only on crypto exchange, but also on regular exchange (HEAT holders will be getting 50% discount). It needs preparations and it needs to be done perfectly. Just look at Waves - it is worth 30 million USD without actually delivering all those features yet and people needed to wait months for full nodes. HEAT will have full nodes at launch and some of the partnerships to (while adding new partnerships in the following months). Of course there will be ups and downs, some people will sell along the way, but the project is curretly worth 1 million USD, while Waves is 30 million. It's x30 gain for HEAT investors during the first couple of weeks. I would not be afraid about that investment.

Yeah, this project is huge, and people who don't grasp it probably didn't read the whitepaper and don't understand what the devs are aiming for. Waves would be the best comparison but this looks way better and much more professional. It won't be only about the promises but you will get many features at launch (if the devs deliver as promised, and they are delaying for a reason, probably to deliver this). Also note that this will be one of a few crypto with roots in real-world. Actual stock options is something fresh and will give your coins additional value in February, because anyone who would like 50% discount at stocks would need to buy your coins from you then. It's also great protection from ICO flippers - you are basically guaranteed that your coins will get additional value in February, so selling earlier is pointless. Anyway, people will quickly realise what a gem HEAT is.

Also don't forget that Supernet is in this. They are famous pump group and they are holding 4% of HEAT according to their website. They brought Stratis to x16 ICO price (BTW stratis is at x9 ICO, so still those who invested are at huge profit).

[whale123]

How high do you expect HEAT to go after launch?

Market cap after ICO is very small for a project which such ambitious whitepaper and tech.

STRAT had it's ICO in the similar timeframe as HEAT and they launched x3/x4 (now trading x7) and they have standard QT wallet (waiting for the actual one) + lots of things in the works. We will be starting with many things already working on the launch day, so I would expect marketcap much higher than STRAT, but hard to predict exact numbers (x5?).

We have also WAVES which is very similar to HEAT in terms of various features and after launch it was trading with market cap of 16 million dollars (now of course much higher), that would make over x14 ICO price but I doubt we would achieve such numbers immediately after launch, market won't let it.

One thing is for sure - HEAT was very undervalued in the initial phase.
Here is comparision of coins that were in similar situation and profits they gave to their investors.

[spendawgs]

Yes i agree an exchange is important - and i think the devs have probably already done so. On another note, can anyone tell me how the member titles here on bitcointalk works. Is it just the ammount of comments a person has posted to boost their status?

The member ranks are based on activity, incremented based on posts within a timeframe of 14 days. It's explained here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=237597.0

Thankyou for the info

[Eliphaz Fimk]

As always, our Dedicated Crypto Blogger came out with some relevant views on the circumstances 

http://heatledger.ghost.io/crypto-roundup-14/

[mm0104]

About Incent, the goal was $1.75 million, but they raised only around $0.2 million. Refunds will cost 0.8% and miners fee. Ouch. Again - that's what crypto bear markets do.

In the quoted paragraph it should say "Inchain" instead of "Incent". Incent has reached its funding goal.

[john312]

As always, our Dedicated Crypto Blogger came out with some relevant views on the circumstances 

http://heatledger.ghost.io/crypto-roundup-14/

Interesting read as always. You hired competent person to write those posts. Let's hope as the platform develops you will be hiring more people.

They are doing it the right way!

[Kazadar]

Did anyone calculate how profitable will be to stake this coin? Looks like a good choice to me, but I am not that good with numbers.

Riceberry made a calculation here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1543991.msg16807597#msg16807597

It could be quite profitable to stake, but of course it depends on market. Crypto is quite hard to predict long term.

[DaddyH]

Did anyone calculate how profitable will be to stake this coin? Looks like a good choice to me, but I am not that good with numbers.

Riceberry made a calculation here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1543991.msg16807597#msg16807597

It could be quite profitable to stake, but of course it depends on market. Crypto is quite hard to predict long term.

Let's consider three cases.
1) Stake at ICO marketcap (1 million USD)
2) Stake at STRAT marketcap (7 million USD)
3) Stake at Waves marketcap (30 million USD)

HEAT seams most similar to Waves, so it should reach it's market cap in the first couple of weeks/months.

HEAT unfortunately is a two man show, with limited resource.
Your other examples have teams of devs and operations guys. HEAT will not reach STRAT or WAVES levels until they expand the team. They can't physically deliver a complex crypto project on their own.

[DaddyH]

Did anyone calculate how profitable will be to stake this coin? Looks like a good choice to me, but I am not that good with numbers.

Riceberry made a calculation here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1543991.msg16807597#msg16807597

It could be quite profitable to stake, but of course it depends on market. Crypto is quite hard to predict long term.

Let's consider three cases.
1) Stake at ICO marketcap (1 million USD)
2) Stake at STRAT marketcap (7 million USD)
3) Stake at Waves marketcap (30 million USD)

HEAT seams most similar to Waves, so it should reach it's market cap in the first couple of weeks/months.

HEAT unfortunately is a two man show, with limited resource.
Your other examples have teams of devs and operations guys. HEAT will not reach STRAT or WAVES levels until they expand the team. They can't physically deliver a complex crypto project on their own.

AFAIK Stratis is two man show too. Also, according to HEAT devs, they are in the process of recruiting more people. Also number of people does not exactly equal immediate success. Waves had more people than HEAT and could not deliver full nodes at launch, instantly making the price plummet after launch. HEAT decided to take the other route - delaying the launch but launching with full nodes. The market will probably prefer the latter one. Anyway, trying to figure out profits of staking HEAT.

Stratis is definitely not two man show. They have half a dozen people and growing.
Waves had too much resource and not enough direction. They also messed up on some delivery aspects - as you mentioned.
HEAT needs more headcount if it wants to sustain a good price. However $30M mc is not possible with just two people.

[Kazadar]

Stratis is definitely not two man show. They have half a dozen people and growing.
Waves had too much resource and not enough direction. They also messed up on some delivery aspects - as you mentioned.
HEAT needs more headcount if it wants to sustain a good price. However $30M mc is not possible with just two people.

Most of the Stratis staff is part time and freelancers. I think I remember seing a post by Chris that he was the first full time employee maybe a month ago.

We have no info on how much of their time the rest of them use, so its hard to get a good comparision.

But I agree that HEAT would benefit from a few more team members.

[nxtrules]

hello,

 I have tried to redeem my stakes at alpha.heatledger.com multiple times without luck. I have sent emails but no responses. Is this supposed to be working?

 Sender address : 16d6n2swAxh7b4t9ko7H6RvXiZmYJS6dy4

 Could you please give me an update

thanks
nr

[bcmine]

Did anyone calculate how profitable will be to stake this coin? Looks like a good choice to me, but I am not that good with numbers.

Riceberry made a calculation here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1543991.msg16807597#msg16807597

It could be quite profitable to stake, but of course it depends on market. Crypto is quite hard to predict long term.

Let's consider three cases.
1) Stake at ICO marketcap (1 million USD)
2) Stake at STRAT marketcap (7 million USD)
3) Stake at Waves marketcap (30 million USD)

HEAT seams most similar to Waves, so it should reach it's market cap in the first couple of weeks/months.

HEAT unfortunately is a two man show, with limited resource.
Your other examples have teams of devs and operations guys. HEAT will not reach STRAT or WAVES levels until they expand the team. They can't physically deliver a complex crypto project on their own.

AFAIK Stratis is two man show too. Also, according to HEAT devs, they are in the process of recruiting more people. Also number of people does not exactly equal immediate success. Waves had more people than HEAT and could not deliver full nodes at launch, instantly making the price plummet after launch. HEAT decided to take the other route - delaying the launch but launching with full nodes. The market will probably prefer the latter one. Anyway, trying to figure out profits of staking HEAT.

Stratis is definitely not two man show. They have half a dozen people and growing.
Waves had too much resource and not enough direction. They also messed up on some delivery aspects - as you mentioned.
HEAT needs more headcount if it wants to sustain a good price. However $30M mc is not possible with just two people.

AFAIK Stratis started with Krushang and Chris, then they started hiring more, like Nicolas Dorier etc. Anyway, same thing here. Started with two guys, hired the guy to write the blog posts, in process on hiring more people according to what they stated. You will have your half a dozen people team soon. Anyway, what is important is the results of their work. Many people were disappoited by Waves launching without full nodes and postponing them for months. HEAT devs are smart avoiding that mistake. They had two options - launch half baked product like Waves did (and trade below ICO like Waves did) or wait like LISK, ETH, Augur etc. did and make the project more successful. Of course people can be angry beacuse it all takes much longer than expected, but so were LISK and ETH investors when they had to wait. Anyway, we will see soon what HEAT devs delivered, and if they really will launch with full nodes and with partnerships in place they will be greatly successful. Now it seems like the race between HEAT and Waves which coin will deliver some of the similar feature. Waves is winning at this moment, with 30 million market cap, but if HEAT creates superior product we will see huge gains here. Look at the picture that someone posted here. NEM was in similar situation and at some point hit even 100 million market cap, starting at one digit million market cap.

let talk again, when its end of February and waiting for full network or working features.

[Kazadar]

hello,

 I have tried to redeem my stakes at alpha.heatledger.com multiple times without luck. I have sent emails but no responses. Is this supposed to be working?

 Sender address : 16d6n2swAxh7b4t9ko7H6RvXiZmYJS6dy4

 Could you please give me an update

thanks
nr

Try using only lower case letters. It worked for many eth addresses.

[HmmMAA]

Did anyone calculate how profitable will be to stake this coin? Looks like a good choice to me, but I am not that good with numbers.

Riceberry made a calculation here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1543991.msg16807597#msg16807597

It could be quite profitable to stake, but of course it depends on market. Crypto is quite hard to predict long term.

Let's consider three cases.
1) Stake at ICO marketcap (1 million USD)
2) Stake at STRAT marketcap (7 million USD)
3) Stake at Waves marketcap (30 million USD)

HEAT seams most similar to Waves, so it should reach it's market cap in the first couple of weeks/months.

HEAT unfortunately is a two man show, with limited resource.
Your other examples have teams of devs and operations guys. HEAT will not reach STRAT or WAVES levels until they expand the team. They can't physically deliver a complex crypto project on their own.

Not so sure about that . Take a look at elastic (XEL) , there's only one talented dev and is about to deliver a great project . Hopefully the HEAT devs will deliver a nice project too .

[LemonAndFriesOne]

Did anyone calculate how profitable will be to stake this coin? Looks like a good choice to me, but I am not that good with numbers.

Riceberry made a calculation here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1543991.msg16807597#msg16807597

It could be quite profitable to stake, but of course it depends on market. Crypto is quite hard to predict long term.

Let's consider three cases.
1) Stake at ICO marketcap (1 million USD)
2) Stake at STRAT marketcap (7 million USD)
3) Stake at Waves marketcap (30 million USD)

HEAT seams most similar to Waves, so it should reach it's market cap in the first couple of weeks/months.

HEAT unfortunately is a two man show, with limited resource.
Your other examples have teams of devs and operations guys. HEAT will not reach STRAT or WAVES levels until they expand the team. They can't physically deliver a complex crypto project on their own.

Not so sure about that . Take a look at elastic (XEL) , there's only one talented dev and is about to deliver a great project . Hopefully the HEAT devs will deliver a nice project too .

Great things can start small. HEAT will deliver something great.To be a successful crypto, and also company, HEAT needs to grow to support interaction from community, customers etc...I know the devs realize this, and eventually HEAT needs more people to help out in all different aspects of the company and crypto. Remember, right now is the very beginning, and progress takes time to see results. I have confidence in the however small team to deliver a well executed genesis. The devs are very busy and focusing all efforts on business and tech, to launch this project properly.

That's nice and all, but what is the estimate date for launch?

[idolacchacked]

soooooooon 

[spendawgs]

Devs are waiting for 100 pages on bitcointalk before launch :p